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by Pawn Lelouch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:11 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

So 9 here. Nova and Nook either died or moved up to the top level by the sounds of things, with Nova being the likely lynch vote of the two.

LLD, Quin, Mac, and 112 are missing. And I think we had 15 so that should be everyone accounted for.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:12 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

And fuck. Does mentioning the likely lynch vote count as that? Since I posted without seeing JJJ's newest mod post.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:22 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

We'll find out what happened there eventually, though we can be aware that the scum janitor is one of the roles left up top.

And I'm interested in how these levels got grouped the way they are. Since it's likely not RNG, the question is if the GMs are controlling it with a clear criteria or if a player has the power to pick who moves down levels and who stays behind.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:24 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Since if it's player controlled we can probably divine information based on who was left behind and who kept going, at least at this stage of the game. The first drop was too large to really pin down, while going from 15 to this is fairly manageable in terms of intent reading.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:34 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

{Me, Evenstar, iiafr}
{Epi, MR, Sprit}
{Dom, Jack, Colin}

Roughly where I am, though Jack and Sprit are honestly kind fluid, positioning wise.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:36 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:32 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:30 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:28 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:26 pm
Master Radishes wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:16 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:14 pm 16-9-2 = we only left five people behind?

So then... 11/5/9? We know there was a lynch on the bottom level thanks to JJJ's slipup, there was probably a kill too.

i feel like more people probably moved up from 1 to 2 based on that
Generally agree. There must be three levels now? But presumably we'll collapse back together at some point.

Can't believe they lynched Spiny's slot.
She was obvtown and on top of that it looks like she was a mason

I wish I'd been there to defend her

super bad lynch
Fill a brother in on why she might have been a mason?
REDACTED section in her flip might have been a link to a private chat with the person she knew to be confirmed town

That's a pretty standard use for redaction IME
Hmm okay. Here on The Syndicate there are typically roles that have *Secrets* attached but which can be anything, not necessarily a mason relationship or anything like that. That's what I interpreted the REDACTED as but who knows
8/10 times its a mason, 1/10 times it's a different role, and 1/10 is that it was targeted by a janitor. Odds are that it was just a mason slot.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:47 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Master Radishes wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:45 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:11 pm So 9 here. Nova and Nook either died or moved up to the top level by the sounds of things, with Nova being the likely lynch vote of the two.

LLD, Quin, Mac, and 112 are missing. And I think we had 15 so that should be everyone accounted for.
And Michelle. Just remembered her.
...

Literally everyone forgot she was with us. I feel kinda guilty about that now.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:48 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:41 pm The read I feel strongest about in my 3 was iaafr, I think. Felt like they were posting a lot but too much noise, not content or hunting. So tell me why I'm wrong.
One, he honestly isn't low content. Once you look past the jokes and at the intent he couples with them, he's honestly fairly solid looking. And this to ane xtent feels like a style thing, wherein this feels like town iaafr to me fairly well.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:49 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:40 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:40 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:34 pm {Me, Evenstar, iiafr}
{Epi, MR, Sprit}
{Dom, Jack, Colin}

Roughly where I am, though Jack and Sprit are honestly kind fluid, positioning wise.
I endorse this list in its entirety
except sprit is not fluid he's solidly in the middle group
Is this due to his emotional outburst around EOD? Trying to figure out where you're getting the confidence for the placement there.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:51 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Master Radishes wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:49 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:47 pm
Master Radishes wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:45 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:11 pm So 9 here. Nova and Nook either died or moved up to the top level by the sounds of things, with Nova being the likely lynch vote of the two.

LLD, Quin, Mac, and 112 are missing. And I think we had 15 so that should be everyone accounted for.
And Michelle. Just remembered her.
...

Literally everyone forgot she was with us. I feel kinda guilty about that now.
I won't tell her if you don't.
Agreed.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:57 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:54 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:52 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:49 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:40 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:40 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:34 pm {Me, Evenstar, iiafr}
{Epi, MR, Sprit}
{Dom, Jack, Colin}

Roughly where I am, though Jack and Sprit are honestly kind fluid, positioning wise.
I endorse this list in its entirety
except sprit is not fluid he's solidly in the middle group
Is this due to his emotional outburst around EOD? Trying to figure out where you're getting the confidence for the placement there.
The emotional outburst solidified it but I've been feeling like he was town since Day 1: he plays like I do when I'm under serious time crunch
by which I mean "when I'm slanking"
Alright, I can vibe with that reasoning. Will solidify Jack + Sprit's slots in my list then.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:24 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Master Radishes wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:21 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:20 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:05 pm So "kicked from this dream level" is not dead?
That’s my assumption.

Which means... :ponder:

I have 3 lives. :biggrin:
We're all well on our way to becoming cats then.
Way ahead of you then. :v

And if people have that many lives, it stands to reason that mafia's goal could be considered not to kill everyone. Would take too long. They need to reach something to achieve their goal in that scenario.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:02 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:49 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:46 pm I used my brilliant mind to deduce Boo was town.
stop roleplaying gilgamesh and start playing the game

mongrel
I agree.

Image
by Pawn Lelouch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:09 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:03 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:22 pm We'll find out what happened there eventually, though we can be aware that the scum janitor is one of the roles left up top.

And I'm interested in how these levels got grouped the way they are. Since it's likely not RNG, the question is if the GMs are controlling it with a clear criteria or if a player has the power to pick who moves down levels and who stays behind.
... is it common for janitors to be able to work on lynches? I don't get where you're getting this "janitor" idea from.
Yeah. Janitors pretty commonly work on lynches, otherwise their utility would be severely hampered. Clearing info from cops + gunsmiths are nice and all, but lynches are where the actual main use of the ability lies imo.

And I thought it was a guaranteed janitor since I saw it was boo, but was too busy finishing up my service learning for the day to look at the actual text closely and see that it strongly hinted mason before it was deleted. So I just saw redacted and kinda auto assumed janitor throughout the night since I believe it was one of the listed possible roles at the beginning and it fits with the info removal.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:40 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Epignosis wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:43 pm Since there isn't anything to discuss at moment: Pawn Lelouch, what kind of music do you like?
Just since I'm up right now I feel obligated to ask you to post that in the interrogation room instead.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:43 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:41 pm pawn pelase talk to me
One sec, finding my list from the walrus and then I can actually analyze posts.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:52 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:41 pm pawn lelouch

is epignosis being fair to me right now?
He is heavily overemphasizing the lack of a vote on D1. Yeah, it wasn't ideal that you didn't put one on Drago to clinch it but unvoting 112 is still a push towards that, and notably one you had been hinting at for a damn good while. I even called you out on it when you said "completely unexpected betrayal" with everyone expected it, since you had been doing blatant hinting.

And even with that initial waver, everything else within the game has been pure town you. Since the beginning of D1.

And yeah, Epi hasn't seen a fair bit of your playstyle for some context, but it's not a overall scummy set of posts even without that. So I do think that the overemphasis that he's been placing is a fair bit too much.

And while I'm enjoying the game I do consider it bastard and somewhat disorienting. I agree with you on that and think Epi not considering it as such is a case of just trying to defend his friends over the truth. Since if this isn't considered bastard over here, I do hate to see what would be considered as such.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:57 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Like, the most potentially sus thing that I could see would be how you, ES, and myself all have the same bottom 3 with the order being ES, myself, and then you, with the argument that this is either two scum buddying a townie or a scum player faking a read list to consenus players.

But even then I wouldn't have them down there if I didn't consider them the most sus players in the game right now, so while that thought process could technically have merit, it's not one worth discussing as of right now.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:58 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:57 pm Like, the most potentially sus thing that I could see would be how you, ES, and myself all have the same bottom 3 with the order being ES, myself, and then you, with the argument that this is either two scum buddying a townie or a scum player faking a read list to consenus players.

But even then I wouldn't have them down there if I didn't consider them the most sus players in the game right now, so while that thought process could technically have merit, it's not one worth discussing as of right now.
And those would apply suspicions between all 3 of us, not just focused on you.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:03 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:02 am but the posts are gone i cant even iso dom to show how he just did a really bad tunnel on me and hardly anything else
I remember it. It was one of the more prominent parts of D2 tbh.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:20 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:19 am YOU: PROPER GRAMMAR LEVEL 1.2 PLAYER

ME: LEVEL 50000 ELDRITCH ABOMINATION OF CIVVIE PLAYER
The G11 pact approves of this one.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:45 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:45 am but sure ill remove jack and put in epi

i didnt even put nova in my list did i

is he even in this day
He was lynched bro. Got ejected out.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:54 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:52 am im just gonna stya in it and not sub because i want to see u fuckers all dead
Can def respect the spite motivation.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:55 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:53 am This is the best game ever.
ikr
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:56 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:55 am Image
Always had Shakespearean English as my first language. Does that count?
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:58 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:57 am Pawn, you seem to have an affinity for iaafr. Can you elaborate?
An affinity in terms of having a read that I believe is correct or personality + style?
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:08 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:59 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:58 am
Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:57 am Pawn, you seem to have an affinity for iaafr. Can you elaborate?
An affinity in terms of having a read that I believe is correct or personality + style?
You seem to like what he's doing. Any outside commentary from someone I even remotely trust would be coveted.
For the most part since early D1 I've honestly found him to be largely acting in a town manner and I generally like the direction that he has pushed in terms of reads. And yes, he did the unvote rather than vote but that doesn't change that he's been fairly solid everywhere else this game.

Especially when you consider the fact that the fact that he removed the 112 vote still helped with Drago and is something that he had to have known would be scummy looking as either alignment due to timing. And full disclosure that is the type of play I have done before, and while it's risky it is something that can work in terms of trying to guarantee a life extension. So I can see the thought process and the weird half measure doesn't feel like scum in that instance, since he would have committed to a hard stance and not ended it on the no lynch.

And while I think iaafr is overreacting in terms of annoyance from your questions I can see how his frustration comes from the setup and is being exacerbated, where the way he is reacting isn't necessarily productive, but feels like town iaafr from what I've observed in other games and spec.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:11 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Alright, [mention]Epignosis[/mention] and [mention]iaafr[/mention] can you both leave the thread for 30 minutes to an hour? So both of you can cool off and stop sniping and we can try to make the thread productive again once you return.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:13 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:12 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:11 am Alright, @Epignosis and @iaafr can you both leave the thread for 30 minutes to an hour? So both of you can cool off and stop sniping and we can try to make the thread productive again once you return.
Now that we’re alone... :blush:
And here I thought you'd never ask~

:hugs:
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:14 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:12 am I'm off. I'll be free tomorrow.
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:12 amsure thing buddy
Appreciated from both of you.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:18 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:12 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:11 am Alright, @Epignosis and @iaafr can you both leave the thread for 30 minutes to an hour? So both of you can cool off and stop sniping and we can try to make the thread productive again once you return.
Now that we’re alone... :blush:
The demon queen of high school has decreed it
She says Monday, 8am I will be deleted
They'll hunt me down in study hall
Stuff and mount me on the wall
Thirty hours to live, how shall I spend them?
I don't have to stay and die like cattle
I could change my name and ride up to Seattle
But I don't own a motorbike
Wait, here's an option that I like
Spend these thirty hours getting freaky!

(:v)
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:57 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:56 am i mean i know for a fact im not the peek because spiny voiced concerns about me and i dont know who else would be the peek

i definitely remember her strongest townread being eva like 90% sure im not making this up lol
I do remember her calling ES a townread. I will admit to not remember how much of one though.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:59 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:46 am but pawns evenkeeled and ppl are antagonizing maybe hteyre all town and its pawn and radishes lmfao I DONT KNOW THIS GAMES SO FUCKING WEIRD
Tbf I'm always evenkeeled in game unless someone pisses me off or I'm on a deep tunnel. And I tunnel sure, but not to that extent often.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:00 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:06 am im dropping bombshells like evenstar is lock mech town from boo's flip and literally nobody's quoting or reacting to it

what kind of a game is this
I don't think it's a mech thing technically, but it already appeals to my view so I just quietly accepted it while writing an essay and moved on.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:02 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:21 am Jfc what did I just spent 200 posts eading.
Magic.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:03 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:35 am My conclusions:

I like Epi. I like his style of communication. I don't want to be on the other end of it.

His pressure on Rabbit was heavily predicated on EoD1 voting behaviour (gee, that sounds familiar) whereas I agree with Pawn that Rabbit's overall play has been very townie. To me, his macro play outweighs a poor voting decision. This could be re-evaluated if we knew, say, 112's alignment or Nova's (others connected to the D1 lynch in significant ways) but for now I agree with Pawn, as I find myself often doing, and consider Rabbit's play generally very clean.

Epi builds up some town equity with his case, although not in a way that auto-clears him, and I'd actually still rank Rabbit higher on my reads list than Epi. But he's moved up a lot and I admit he had me re-considering Rabbit for the first 50 posts of back-and-forth there. (Part of my hesitation also stems from someone in D1 mentioning Epi's strong track record as both alignments.)

I consider that a v/v interaction. Having never played a game with either before, I could very well be wrong.
:srsnod: Liking this view for obvious reasons. And the adding of the Rabbit waver for a bit isn't something that is always the easiest thought to fake, makes this less likely to be a pocket attempt.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:06 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:02 am
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:40 am
Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:33 pm Here, I saved the wording of her flip:

"You are the subconscious aspect of conscientiousness.

You represent the mark’s steadfastness in the proper and thorough completion of tasks set before them.

You begin the game with the knowledge that REDACTED is an aspect of the subconscious and not an intruder.

REDACTED

You will win the game if all threats to the subconscious mind are eliminated."
how is this not mech what
...

I'm a moron, that wording does actually make sense for a peek. And you're presuming she just TMI'd ES hard since she could afford to? I could see that if we get confirmation as to how loudly Spiny yelled it. If only we could look back ;_;. Hopefully one of the others can answer the tag with a good memory.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:08 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:41 am Consensus bottom 3 appear to be:

Jack, Dom, Colin


Jack - I've flip-flopped on him at least four times this game. I'm back to sort of liking his play this round. Or maybe he's just reading the game so differently I'm assuming TWTBW?
Dom - Could be scum, sure. My hesitation is that his tunnel was on...iaafr? Scum were never going to powerlynch him out last round. Why go there? (Or was that his plan to avoid scrutiny?)
Colin - Reads to me like a townie missing a lot of info trying to get into a game with unfamiliar players. Nothing yet has pinged me from his posts. Nothing has cleared him either, of course.


Of the three I like Colin's addition to the group the least - I think as it stands he's not my vote. Plenty of Day left though.
So I'm guessing that you'd be replacing Colin with Sprit in your view? Or is it ES?

Since I know you've mentioned you think Rabbit, Epi, and myself are town and some distrust of ES.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:33 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:25 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:08 am
Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:41 am Consensus bottom 3 appear to be:

Jack, Dom, Colin


Jack - I've flip-flopped on him at least four times this game. I'm back to sort of liking his play this round. Or maybe he's just reading the game so differently I'm assuming TWTBW?
Dom - Could be scum, sure. My hesitation is that his tunnel was on...iaafr? Scum were never going to powerlynch him out last round. Why go there? (Or was that his plan to avoid scrutiny?)
Colin - Reads to me like a townie missing a lot of info trying to get into a game with unfamiliar players. Nothing yet has pinged me from his posts. Nothing has cleared him either, of course.


Of the three I like Colin's addition to the group the least - I think as it stands he's not my vote. Plenty of Day left though.
So I'm guessing that you'd be replacing Colin with Sprit in your view? Or is it ES?

Since I know you've mentioned you think Rabbit, Epi, and myself are town and some distrust of ES.
ES or Sprit. Not sure. If Rabbit is right I have to back off ES, but a Jack/Sprit/Dom trio feels a bit bleh to me. So does a Jack/Dom/Colin trio. Are we really saying none of the talkative players in this dream level are mafia? (Jack is talkative, but on a different plane from the rest of us in his reads, I feel.) Like, I know it's possible, but I'm naturally distrustful of clearing the high posters and keeping our (non-existent) wagons to low posters and the guy with different reads.
Like, we can't auto clear obviously but there is a pretty big difference in terms of susness and contributions. Like, we agree there is probably 2 mafia here, right? I don't think 2 have slipped through the net, at worst it's a 1:1 split in terms of mafia, with decent odds of 0:2 since everyone in the 5 group has done some amount of clearing play.

So at this point we should probably go for the relative guarantee and work through that. As time goes on, if things change then they change. But right now we don't really need hero plays and they're probably actively detrimental.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:00 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:51 am And while I'm here at 4AM I would like to answer Epi's question:

Because that godfather play is exactly the kind of thing I would do as scum. It's a reasonable mistake ("godfathers are super powerful"in a game which makes them...
not), but it has far-reaching implications for gamestate because it lets you argue a different set of scum motivations. Assuming you're scum - and your push on Iaafr is really not winning you points in that category - you're using that to distort the gamestate and push faulty lynches.

In short, it smells like agenda and it's the kind of scumplay I would expect from someone of your apparent skill.

@Pawn Lelouch The iaafr push is bad. Like, really bad. Assume rabbit's town. Why might he have strong reason to not vote?
Bluntly iaafr himself already answered that earlier today and I concurred with him publicly since it's a play I would do. Assume the Drago lynch goes through and no lynch to make that more likely by removing a 112 vote while still looking on the surface suspicious. That suspicious EOD means you never die that night and there's enough self confidence in skill that you can talk your way off a lynch.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:26 am
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Evenstar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:22 am and now I am going back to fucking bed
Sleep. Being up this late isn't healthy.

(Ignoring own advice as usual).
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:50 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:42 pm Generally anyone who was like “I strongly suspect Dom and Colin/Rej” sets off warning bells because those players barely said anything.

I asked for reasons for those suspicions and got one semi satisfactory answer from one out of the six or so players at the time who had those reads.

Several players going from “I suspect Nova/Colin/Dom for undisclosed or tinfoily reasons” to “I suspect Colin/Dom/Jack for undisclosed or tinfoily reasons” doesn’t make me want to flip my reads. Neither does a few “I guess Jack can be town for undisclosed reasons. Now I suspect yet another quiet Syndicate player in Sprityo.”
Ultimately comes down to the fact that there has been nothing really clearing them while the TR people have done things to do that from my perspective.

I don't like going after low posters since it's lazy but at this point there isn't that much left to do. The fact is, reads by process of elimination are a real thing and they're valid in this situation.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:58 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:55 pm I've already stated my belief that Pawn could be a deepwolf. I have nothing on him, but if you want to interrogate him I'll back you. Let's shake things up if you don't like how it is going.
Lol, I can never escape those claims about me. And sure, I'm open to answering questions.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:21 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:13 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:58 pm
Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:55 pm I've already stated my belief that Pawn could be a deepwolf. I have nothing on him, but if you want to interrogate him I'll back you. Let's shake things up if you don't like how it is going.
Lol, I can never escape those claims about me. And sure, I'm open to answering questions.
Give me your spiciest take, something that you think has at least one toe within the realm of possiblity.
You're pocketing me + iaafr.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:30 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
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Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:06 pm Give me everything you got on Dom and Colin. Like as if your life depended on reading them correctly.
Dom is largely just aggression against iaafr and Colin exists as vague flailing without direction. That's it. We're on D3 and that is literally all I can remember about the two of them.

Dom at least can be argued that he's gone for the iaafr fight, he has just looked consistently horrible with every time he's pushed it. Being dickish/overly aggro and largely not providing constructive arguments to pick at him. So Dom's only contributions are ones that I do find sus and so he's placed there fairly easily. It colors the entire tone of his work essentially.

And Colin has done so little actual work it took until today for me to actually remember his name. There's a reason I've been calling him Rej's replacement. And maybe it could be argued that his confused flailing is mildly towny but frankly? With that being all he has, I have seen nothing that would move him from the bottom bracket to take the 6th slot on my readslist.

Past a certain point of time, with people clearing themselves in my mind it just comes down to a process of elimination and reevaling as needed.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:32 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:26 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:21 pm
Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:13 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:58 pm
Master Radishes wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:55 pm I've already stated my belief that Pawn could be a deepwolf. I have nothing on him, but if you want to interrogate him I'll back you. Let's shake things up if you don't like how it is going.
Lol, I can never escape those claims about me. And sure, I'm open to answering questions.
Give me your spiciest take, something that you think has at least one toe within the realm of possiblity.
You're pocketing me + iaafr.
Pfft, you call that spice. :mafia:
Hey, you're the one who said within the realm of possibility. Otherwise I would have said it was a scum team of iaafr, ES, and myself on this level, with our goal being to powerwolf it, with me and iaafr intentionally drawing attention for scum ES to go deep.

Except I'm not scum and both are TRs so it's not possible sadly.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:33 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Dom wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:30 pm I like how only I can't be rude to people.

It's truly amazing.
Oh others should absolutely knock it off too, and I had specifically called for that to stop last night, but this was in context of a read with you specifically.
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:40 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Dom wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:37 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:33 pm
Dom wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:30 pm I like how only I can't be rude to people.

It's truly amazing.
Oh others should absolutely knock it off too, and I had specifically called for that to stop last night, but this was in context of a read with you specifically.
Right, but Dom is a *dick*.

That's cool though.

I didn't call one name. I didn't do anything like that.
But I'm the issue, right?
*shrug*

Call it like how I see it. I'll also call out iaafr and Epi for acting in a dickish manner as well at various points of today. And you do realize that calling names isn't really needed to be acting in such a manner, right?
by Pawn Lelouch
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:41 pm
Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
Replies: 1545
Views: 24892

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:40 pm
Dom wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:37 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:33 pm
Dom wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:30 pm I like how only I can't be rude to people.

It's truly amazing.
Oh others should absolutely knock it off too, and I had specifically called for that to stop last night, but this was in context of a read with you specifically.
Right, but Dom is a *dick*.

That's cool though.

I didn't call one name. I didn't do anything like that.
But I'm the issue, right?
*shrug*

Call it like how I see it. I'll also call out iaafr and Epi for acting in a dickish manner as well at various points of today. And you do realize that calling names isn't really needed to be acting in such a manner, right?
(Clarification since the wording isn't the most ambiguous) People can be dickish without calling names. There's other ways to be so.

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