So 9 here. Nova and Nook either died or moved up to the top level by the sounds of things, with Nova being the likely lynch vote of the two.
LLD, Quin, Mac, and 112 are missing. And I think we had 15 so that should be everyone accounted for.
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And fuck. Does mentioning the likely lynch vote count as that? Since I posted without seeing JJJ's newest mod post.
- Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:22 pm
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We'll find out what happened there eventually, though we can be aware that the scum janitor is one of the roles left up top.
And I'm interested in how these levels got grouped the way they are. Since it's likely not RNG, the question is if the GMs are controlling it with a clear criteria or if a player has the power to pick who moves down levels and who stays behind.
And I'm interested in how these levels got grouped the way they are. Since it's likely not RNG, the question is if the GMs are controlling it with a clear criteria or if a player has the power to pick who moves down levels and who stays behind.
- Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:24 pm
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Since if it's player controlled we can probably divine information based on who was left behind and who kept going, at least at this stage of the game. The first drop was too large to really pin down, while going from 15 to this is fairly manageable in terms of intent reading.
- Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:34 pm
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{Me, Evenstar, iiafr}
{Epi, MR, Sprit}
{Dom, Jack, Colin}
Roughly where I am, though Jack and Sprit are honestly kind fluid, positioning wise.
{Epi, MR, Sprit}
{Dom, Jack, Colin}
Roughly where I am, though Jack and Sprit are honestly kind fluid, positioning wise.
- Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:36 pm
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8/10 times its a mason, 1/10 times it's a different role, and 1/10 is that it was targeted by a janitor. Odds are that it was just a mason slot.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:32 pmHmm okay. Here on The Syndicate there are typically roles that have *Secrets* attached but which can be anything, not necessarily a mason relationship or anything like that. That's what I interpreted the REDACTED as but who knowsEvenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:30 pmREDACTED section in her flip might have been a link to a private chat with the person she knew to be confirmed townColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:28 pmFill a brother in on why she might have been a mason?Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:26 pmShe was obvtown and on top of that it looks like she was a masonMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:16 pmGenerally agree. There must be three levels now? But presumably we'll collapse back together at some point.
Can't believe they lynched Spiny's slot.
I wish I'd been there to defend her
super bad lynch
That's a pretty standard use for redaction IME
- Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:47 pm
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...Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:45 pmAnd Michelle. Just remembered her.Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:11 pm So 9 here. Nova and Nook either died or moved up to the top level by the sounds of things, with Nova being the likely lynch vote of the two.
LLD, Quin, Mac, and 112 are missing. And I think we had 15 so that should be everyone accounted for.
Literally everyone forgot she was with us. I feel kinda guilty about that now.
- Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:48 pm
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One, he honestly isn't low content. Once you look past the jokes and at the intent he couples with them, he's honestly fairly solid looking. And this to ane xtent feels like a style thing, wherein this feels like town iaafr to me fairly well.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:41 pm The read I feel strongest about in my 3 was iaafr, I think. Felt like they were posting a lot but too much noise, not content or hunting. So tell me why I'm wrong.
- Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:49 pm
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Is this due to his emotional outburst around EOD? Trying to figure out where you're getting the confidence for the placement there.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:40 pmexcept sprit is not fluid he's solidly in the middle groupEvenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:40 pmI endorse this list in its entiretyPawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:34 pm {Me, Evenstar, iiafr}
{Epi, MR, Sprit}
{Dom, Jack, Colin}
Roughly where I am, though Jack and Sprit are honestly kind fluid, positioning wise.
- Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:51 pm
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Agreed.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:49 pmI won't tell her if you don't.Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:47 pm...Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:45 pmAnd Michelle. Just remembered her.Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:11 pm So 9 here. Nova and Nook either died or moved up to the top level by the sounds of things, with Nova being the likely lynch vote of the two.
LLD, Quin, Mac, and 112 are missing. And I think we had 15 so that should be everyone accounted for.
Literally everyone forgot she was with us. I feel kinda guilty about that now.
- Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:57 pm
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Alright, I can vibe with that reasoning. Will solidify Jack + Sprit's slots in my list then.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:54 pmby which I mean "when I'm slanking"Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:52 pmThe emotional outburst solidified it but I've been feeling like he was town since Day 1: he plays like I do when I'm under serious time crunchPawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:49 pmIs this due to his emotional outburst around EOD? Trying to figure out where you're getting the confidence for the placement there.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:40 pmexcept sprit is not fluid he's solidly in the middle groupEvenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:40 pmI endorse this list in its entiretyPawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:34 pm {Me, Evenstar, iiafr}
{Epi, MR, Sprit}
{Dom, Jack, Colin}
Roughly where I am, though Jack and Sprit are honestly kind fluid, positioning wise.
- Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:24 pm
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Way ahead of you then. :vMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:21 pmWe're all well on our way to becoming cats then.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:20 pmThat’s my assumption.
Which means...
I have 3 lives.
And if people have that many lives, it stands to reason that mafia's goal could be considered not to kill everyone. Would take too long. They need to reach something to achieve their goal in that scenario.
- Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:02 pm
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Yeah. Janitors pretty commonly work on lynches, otherwise their utility would be severely hampered. Clearing info from cops + gunsmiths are nice and all, but lynches are where the actual main use of the ability lies imo.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:03 pm... is it common for janitors to be able to work on lynches? I don't get where you're getting this "janitor" idea from.Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:22 pm We'll find out what happened there eventually, though we can be aware that the scum janitor is one of the roles left up top.
And I'm interested in how these levels got grouped the way they are. Since it's likely not RNG, the question is if the GMs are controlling it with a clear criteria or if a player has the power to pick who moves down levels and who stays behind.
And I thought it was a guaranteed janitor since I saw it was boo, but was too busy finishing up my service learning for the day to look at the actual text closely and see that it strongly hinted mason before it was deleted. So I just saw redacted and kinda auto assumed janitor throughout the night since I believe it was one of the listed possible roles at the beginning and it fits with the info removal.
- Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:40 pm
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He is heavily overemphasizing the lack of a vote on D1. Yeah, it wasn't ideal that you didn't put one on Drago to clinch it but unvoting 112 is still a push towards that, and notably one you had been hinting at for a damn good while. I even called you out on it when you said "completely unexpected betrayal" with everyone expected it, since you had been doing blatant hinting.
And even with that initial waver, everything else within the game has been pure town you. Since the beginning of D1.
And yeah, Epi hasn't seen a fair bit of your playstyle for some context, but it's not a overall scummy set of posts even without that. So I do think that the overemphasis that he's been placing is a fair bit too much.
And while I'm enjoying the game I do consider it bastard and somewhat disorienting. I agree with you on that and think Epi not considering it as such is a case of just trying to defend his friends over the truth. Since if this isn't considered bastard over here, I do hate to see what would be considered as such.
- Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:57 pm
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Like, the most potentially sus thing that I could see would be how you, ES, and myself all have the same bottom 3 with the order being ES, myself, and then you, with the argument that this is either two scum buddying a townie or a scum player faking a read list to consenus players.
But even then I wouldn't have them down there if I didn't consider them the most sus players in the game right now, so while that thought process could technically have merit, it's not one worth discussing as of right now.
But even then I wouldn't have them down there if I didn't consider them the most sus players in the game right now, so while that thought process could technically have merit, it's not one worth discussing as of right now.
- Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:58 pm
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And those would apply suspicions between all 3 of us, not just focused on you.Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:57 pm Like, the most potentially sus thing that I could see would be how you, ES, and myself all have the same bottom 3 with the order being ES, myself, and then you, with the argument that this is either two scum buddying a townie or a scum player faking a read list to consenus players.
But even then I wouldn't have them down there if I didn't consider them the most sus players in the game right now, so while that thought process could technically have merit, it's not one worth discussing as of right now.
- Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:03 am
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For the most part since early D1 I've honestly found him to be largely acting in a town manner and I generally like the direction that he has pushed in terms of reads. And yes, he did the unvote rather than vote but that doesn't change that he's been fairly solid everywhere else this game.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:59 amYou seem to like what he's doing. Any outside commentary from someone I even remotely trust would be coveted.Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:58 amAn affinity in terms of having a read that I believe is correct or personality + style?
Especially when you consider the fact that the fact that he removed the 112 vote still helped with Drago and is something that he had to have known would be scummy looking as either alignment due to timing. And full disclosure that is the type of play I have done before, and while it's risky it is something that can work in terms of trying to guarantee a life extension. So I can see the thought process and the weird half measure doesn't feel like scum in that instance, since he would have committed to a hard stance and not ended it on the no lynch.
And while I think iaafr is overreacting in terms of annoyance from your questions I can see how his frustration comes from the setup and is being exacerbated, where the way he is reacting isn't necessarily productive, but feels like town iaafr from what I've observed in other games and spec.
- Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:11 am
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Alright, [mention]Epignosis[/mention] and [mention]iaafr[/mention] can you both leave the thread for 30 minutes to an hour? So both of you can cool off and stop sniping and we can try to make the thread productive again once you return.
- Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:13 am
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And here I thought you'd never ask~Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:12 amNow that we’re alone...Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:11 am Alright, @Epignosis and @iaafr can you both leave the thread for 30 minutes to an hour? So both of you can cool off and stop sniping and we can try to make the thread productive again once you return.
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The demon queen of high school has decreed itJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:12 amNow that we’re alone...Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:11 am Alright, @Epignosis and @iaafr can you both leave the thread for 30 minutes to an hour? So both of you can cool off and stop sniping and we can try to make the thread productive again once you return.
She says Monday, 8am I will be deleted
They'll hunt me down in study hall
Stuff and mount me on the wall
Thirty hours to live, how shall I spend them?
I don't have to stay and die like cattle
I could change my name and ride up to Seattle
But I don't own a motorbike
Wait, here's an option that I like
Spend these thirty hours getting freaky!
(:v)
- Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:57 am
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I do remember her calling ES a townread. I will admit to not remember how much of one though.
- Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:59 am
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Tbf I'm always evenkeeled in game unless someone pisses me off or I'm on a deep tunnel. And I tunnel sure, but not to that extent often.
- Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:00 am
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I don't think it's a mech thing technically, but it already appeals to my view so I just quietly accepted it while writing an essay and moved on.
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- Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:03 am
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Liking this view for obvious reasons. And the adding of the Rabbit waver for a bit isn't something that is always the easiest thought to fake, makes this less likely to be a pocket attempt.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:35 am My conclusions:
I like Epi. I like his style of communication. I don't want to be on the other end of it.
His pressure on Rabbit was heavily predicated on EoD1 voting behaviour (gee, that sounds familiar) whereas I agree with Pawn that Rabbit's overall play has been very townie. To me, his macro play outweighs a poor voting decision. This could be re-evaluated if we knew, say, 112's alignment or Nova's (others connected to the D1 lynch in significant ways) but for now I agree with Pawn, as I find myself often doing, and consider Rabbit's play generally very clean.
Epi builds up some town equity with his case, although not in a way that auto-clears him, and I'd actually still rank Rabbit higher on my reads list than Epi. But he's moved up a lot and I admit he had me re-considering Rabbit for the first 50 posts of back-and-forth there. (Part of my hesitation also stems from someone in D1 mentioning Epi's strong track record as both alignments.)
I consider that a v/v interaction. Having never played a game with either before, I could very well be wrong.
- Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:06 am
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...iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:02 amhow is this not mech whatiaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:40 amEvenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:33 pm Here, I saved the wording of her flip:
"You are the subconscious aspect of conscientiousness.
You represent the mark’s steadfastness in the proper and thorough completion of tasks set before them.
You begin the game with the knowledge that REDACTED is an aspect of the subconscious and not an intruder.
REDACTED
You will win the game if all threats to the subconscious mind are eliminated."
I'm a moron, that wording does actually make sense for a peek. And you're presuming she just TMI'd ES hard since she could afford to? I could see that if we get confirmation as to how loudly Spiny yelled it. If only we could look back ;_;. Hopefully one of the others can answer the tag with a good memory.
- Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:08 am
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So I'm guessing that you'd be replacing Colin with Sprit in your view? Or is it ES?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:41 am Consensus bottom 3 appear to be:
Jack, Dom, Colin
Jack - I've flip-flopped on him at least four times this game. I'm back to sort of liking his play this round. Or maybe he's just reading the game so differently I'm assuming TWTBW?
Dom - Could be scum, sure. My hesitation is that his tunnel was on...iaafr? Scum were never going to powerlynch him out last round. Why go there? (Or was that his plan to avoid scrutiny?)
Colin - Reads to me like a townie missing a lot of info trying to get into a game with unfamiliar players. Nothing yet has pinged me from his posts. Nothing has cleared him either, of course.
Of the three I like Colin's addition to the group the least - I think as it stands he's not my vote. Plenty of Day left though.
Since I know you've mentioned you think Rabbit, Epi, and myself are town and some distrust of ES.
- Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:33 am
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Like, we can't auto clear obviously but there is a pretty big difference in terms of susness and contributions. Like, we agree there is probably 2 mafia here, right? I don't think 2 have slipped through the net, at worst it's a 1:1 split in terms of mafia, with decent odds of 0:2 since everyone in the 5 group has done some amount of clearing play.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:25 amES or Sprit. Not sure. If Rabbit is right I have to back off ES, but a Jack/Sprit/Dom trio feels a bit bleh to me. So does a Jack/Dom/Colin trio. Are we really saying none of the talkative players in this dream level are mafia? (Jack is talkative, but on a different plane from the rest of us in his reads, I feel.) Like, I know it's possible, but I'm naturally distrustful of clearing the high posters and keeping our (non-existent) wagons to low posters and the guy with different reads.Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:08 amSo I'm guessing that you'd be replacing Colin with Sprit in your view? Or is it ES?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:41 am Consensus bottom 3 appear to be:
Jack, Dom, Colin
Jack - I've flip-flopped on him at least four times this game. I'm back to sort of liking his play this round. Or maybe he's just reading the game so differently I'm assuming TWTBW?
Dom - Could be scum, sure. My hesitation is that his tunnel was on...iaafr? Scum were never going to powerlynch him out last round. Why go there? (Or was that his plan to avoid scrutiny?)
Colin - Reads to me like a townie missing a lot of info trying to get into a game with unfamiliar players. Nothing yet has pinged me from his posts. Nothing has cleared him either, of course.
Of the three I like Colin's addition to the group the least - I think as it stands he's not my vote. Plenty of Day left though.
Since I know you've mentioned you think Rabbit, Epi, and myself are town and some distrust of ES.
So at this point we should probably go for the relative guarantee and work through that. As time goes on, if things change then they change. But right now we don't really need hero plays and they're probably actively detrimental.
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Bluntly iaafr himself already answered that earlier today and I concurred with him publicly since it's a play I would do. Assume the Drago lynch goes through and no lynch to make that more likely by removing a 112 vote while still looking on the surface suspicious. That suspicious EOD means you never die that night and there's enough self confidence in skill that you can talk your way off a lynch.Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:51 am And while I'm here at 4AM I would like to answer Epi's question:
Because that godfather play is exactly the kind of thing I would do as scum. It's a reasonable mistake ("godfathers are super powerful"in a game which makes them...
not), but it has far-reaching implications for gamestate because it lets you argue a different set of scum motivations. Assuming you're scum - and your push on Iaafr is really not winning you points in that category - you're using that to distort the gamestate and push faulty lynches.
In short, it smells like agenda and it's the kind of scumplay I would expect from someone of your apparent skill.
@Pawn Lelouch The iaafr push is bad. Like, really bad. Assume rabbit's town. Why might he have strong reason to not vote?
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Ultimately comes down to the fact that there has been nothing really clearing them while the TR people have done things to do that from my perspective.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:42 pm Generally anyone who was like “I strongly suspect Dom and Colin/Rej” sets off warning bells because those players barely said anything.
I asked for reasons for those suspicions and got one semi satisfactory answer from one out of the six or so players at the time who had those reads.
Several players going from “I suspect Nova/Colin/Dom for undisclosed or tinfoily reasons” to “I suspect Colin/Dom/Jack for undisclosed or tinfoily reasons” doesn’t make me want to flip my reads. Neither does a few “I guess Jack can be town for undisclosed reasons. Now I suspect yet another quiet Syndicate player in Sprityo.”
I don't like going after low posters since it's lazy but at this point there isn't that much left to do. The fact is, reads by process of elimination are a real thing and they're valid in this situation.
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Lol, I can never escape those claims about me. And sure, I'm open to answering questions.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:55 pm I've already stated my belief that Pawn could be a deepwolf. I have nothing on him, but if you want to interrogate him I'll back you. Let's shake things up if you don't like how it is going.
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]
You're pocketing me + iaafr.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:13 pmGive me your spiciest take, something that you think has at least one toe within the realm of possiblity.Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:58 pmLol, I can never escape those claims about me. And sure, I'm open to answering questions.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:55 pm I've already stated my belief that Pawn could be a deepwolf. I have nothing on him, but if you want to interrogate him I'll back you. Let's shake things up if you don't like how it is going.
- Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:30 pm
- Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
- Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]
Dom is largely just aggression against iaafr and Colin exists as vague flailing without direction. That's it. We're on D3 and that is literally all I can remember about the two of them.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:06 pm Give me everything you got on Dom and Colin. Like as if your life depended on reading them correctly.
Dom at least can be argued that he's gone for the iaafr fight, he has just looked consistently horrible with every time he's pushed it. Being dickish/overly aggro and largely not providing constructive arguments to pick at him. So Dom's only contributions are ones that I do find sus and so he's placed there fairly easily. It colors the entire tone of his work essentially.
And Colin has done so little actual work it took until today for me to actually remember his name. There's a reason I've been calling him Rej's replacement. And maybe it could be argued that his confused flailing is mildly towny but frankly? With that being all he has, I have seen nothing that would move him from the bottom bracket to take the 6th slot on my readslist.
Past a certain point of time, with people clearing themselves in my mind it just comes down to a process of elimination and reevaling as needed.
- Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:32 pm
- Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
- Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]
Hey, you're the one who said within the realm of possibility. Otherwise I would have said it was a scum team of iaafr, ES, and myself on this level, with our goal being to powerwolf it, with me and iaafr intentionally drawing attention for scum ES to go deep.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:26 pmPfft, you call that spice.Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:21 pmYou're pocketing me + iaafr.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:13 pmGive me your spiciest take, something that you think has at least one toe within the realm of possiblity.Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:58 pmLol, I can never escape those claims about me. And sure, I'm open to answering questions.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:55 pm I've already stated my belief that Pawn could be a deepwolf. I have nothing on him, but if you want to interrogate him I'll back you. Let's shake things up if you don't like how it is going.
Except I'm not scum and both are TRs so it's not possible sadly.
- Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:33 pm
- Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
- Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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- Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:40 pm
- Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
- Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]
*shrug*Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:37 pmRight, but Dom is a *dick*.Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:33 pmOh others should absolutely knock it off too, and I had specifically called for that to stop last night, but this was in context of a read with you specifically.
That's cool though.
I didn't call one name. I didn't do anything like that.
But I'm the issue, right?
Call it like how I see it. I'll also call out iaafr and Epi for acting in a dickish manner as well at various points of today. And you do realize that calling names isn't really needed to be acting in such a manner, right?
- Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:41 pm
- Forum: Inception: Adrift in Limbo
- Topic: Inception [Inception Phase 4]
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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]
(Clarification since the wording isn't the most ambiguous) People can be dickish without calling names. There's other ways to be so.Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:40 pm*shrug*Dom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:37 pmRight, but Dom is a *dick*.Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:33 pmOh others should absolutely knock it off too, and I had specifically called for that to stop last night, but this was in context of a read with you specifically.
That's cool though.
I didn't call one name. I didn't do anything like that.
But I'm the issue, right?
Call it like how I see it. I'll also call out iaafr and Epi for acting in a dickish manner as well at various points of today. And you do realize that calling names isn't really needed to be acting in such a manner, right?