The Syndicate

My bad. I thought Kyle meant votes from here on lol

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:44 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:40 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:37 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:32 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:30 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:22 pm I never said anything about rushed lynch decisions. I said you apologized to MP as if he had already been revealed civ. It read as if you no longer believe he is bad, despite your vote. I can read MP pretty well and not even I feel 100% convinced of his alignment at the moment. So your apology to him sure looked to me like you know he is civ.

linki: With Wilgy, you never can tell...
you're completely misinterpreting my posts. I was suspicious of MP. MP posted a lot in a short timeframe at the end where I could not read all his posts. He targeted me and I felt it wasn't genuine of him to ISO Quin just to get the heat off him. While it's a civ effort, it could also be a mafia effort. He voted for me, with Quin and someone else. It was three votes against me. Of course I'm voting for him. I don't especially want to without reading his contributions without being bombarded with 20 new posts in 2 mins at the end. It was rushed. I apoligized for rushing it. I don't usually do that, but panicked.
Do you think it was a civ or mafia effort, in hindsight?
I have to go back and read all his posts, don't I?

Why did you vote for me?
it was going to go between you, me, MP, Wilgy and DDL. Between you and Wilgy, you're the only one I could substantiate a vote for.
why? why me over wilgy?

You pinged me once. Wilgy's gambit was just annoying.

I asked you a question as well. Can you respond? We'll do GTH's first though.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:45 pm GTH reads exercise, Night 1
Part 1

DRAGON D. LUFFY

DUNYA

town

scum

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:48 pm GTH reads exercise, Night 1
Part 2

KYLEMII

LONG CON

scum

town

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:50 pm GTH reads exercise, Night 1
Part 3

MOVINGPICTURES07

NEWTRADITIONALIST

town

scum \_(:T)_/

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:52 pm GTH reads exercise, Night 1
Part 4

QUIN

SIG

the best

scum

1 outta 4 aint bad

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:53 pm GTH reads exercise, Night 1
Part 5

SPACEDAISY

SPANKGANGSTA

SPEEDCHUCK

town

scum

scum

that speedchuck read tho

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:05 pm jesus, MP has 163 posts itt now?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

he must be having a bad day.

It's not the first time MP's pressure vote for Daisy has been called into question. The same thing that happened in this thread happened in another game (though to a lesser extent) in The Search for Quin. It was pretty well established in that game that pressure votes between them don't carry much weight, since significant others should well know eachother's availability. Yet he does it anyway here. While he had a back and forth about it with her in TSFQ, he doesn't respond in this game. I could see a baddie MP trying to cover his bases on Day 1 like this.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:54 pm Who were the player's with 2 or more votes near the end of the lynch yesterday? There was DDL, DrWilgy, MP, Quin was there anyone else?

dunya, for like 30 seconds.

I don't think dunya had her hand in any vote shenanigans, though. She threw hers on MP as soon as she started taking votes.

I'm voting dunya. I never got an answer to my question to her earlier and I feel as though it was shrugged off considering I prompted her more than once to answer while she was around.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:21 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:03 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:01 pm Guys Quin is bad, did you keep an eye on his vote pattern? One of his teammates were up to die.
Agreed.
Why do you agree? Which votes made which person look like a teammate of mine?

This read as a cheap attempt to justify getting on board the next lynch train that came for me. My question to her was timed to test whether she actually was paying attention to my votes in real time. Neither she or Wilgy actually elaborated on this point and she's not dug into me today either. It feels disingenous.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:37 pm Still happy with a DDL lynch - he's someone I highly suspected yesterday, and his role in Wilgy's lynch doesn't alleviate that any.

I can see Quin's point on dunya, that does look a little sparse on dunya's part. dunya hasn't responded to your questions, Quin?

No. And with Kyle's vote recount in the thread now it's kind of a moot purpose.

I'm looking through dunya's posts now. So far I'm not impressed with my own read of her - she looks clean to me. I'll update these thoughts when I'm finished. Want to have a go?

Oh, not 'questions' - it's just the one. She agreed with Wilgy that my vote changes looked sketchy, I recall that's all I wanted a response from her on.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:17 pm MovingPictures isn't playing as his usual self. I've been town with him in both games we've played together, so this game seems off for him.

What does it mean for him to not be playing his usual self?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:45 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:42 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:37 pm Still happy with a DDL lynch - he's someone I highly suspected yesterday, and his role in Wilgy's lynch doesn't alleviate that any.

I can see Quin's point on dunya, that does look a little sparse on dunya's part. dunya hasn't responded to your questions, Quin?
No. And with Kyle's vote recount in the thread now it's kind of a moot purpose.

I'm looking through dunya's posts now. So far I'm not impressed with my own read of her - she looks clean to me. I'll update these thoughts when I'm finished. Want to have a go?
I know that my experience of dunya's post also left me thinking she's Civ. I'll check out speedchuck, and see what insights a reread might give me.

speedchucks a good choice. My GTH read of him surprised me.

Finished my dunya ISO. I have identified a concern.

dunya throws out reads like nobody's business, but she did not once take action on any of them until it came to her self-preservation vote. Once that was placed, she put her hands up and says 'I had to!' in lieu of finding a better place for her vote, even after she was safe again. Granted, there wasn't much time left in the day, but it was chaos. Votes were moving constantly, and in that respect she was present, yet completely uninvolved.

I wish I had a vote tally to fact check things

I remember a long post with a vote history thingamajig. Who posted that?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:04 pm Something that bugged me about the last day phase was the way MP was acting so panicked about getting lynched when he was in 2nd place to Quin

Something that bugged me part 2: was the way Quin pushed me to explain the ping of suspicion towards him and then Speedchuck used that as the definitive reference to discredit the case against Quin

I read MP the opposite way for that. I felt the burning passion of a flaming sock trying to make something happen on Day 1. I don't see why being in 2nd place matters much, especially since in yesterdays case the top lynch contender only had 4 votes at its peak. Lots of room for shenanigans.

tyty

I wanted to confirm that dunya only threw down the one vote, but you seem to think there was another. Did she get back to you on that?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:19 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:39 pm Argh, captain Sloonbeard! I gots a question for ye, of public nature.

If we send our swabbies seaward, or drive a cutlass thru their pantaloons, er, or whatever we do to whittle down our number, will their role be publicly made available? Howsabout if we finds them dead, their souls drifting to Davy Jones' locker?

Do we get the flips, cap'n?
Sloonei didn't answer this, speedchuck. And you didn't follow up... in the thread. Maybe you got an answer in a mafia chat?

Mostly speedchuck doesn't look TOO bad when just looking at his posts close to the and during the end of the lynch. Maybe a little too focused on attacking Wilgy for his emoji posting. Should we change the title there to "Emojis" instead of "Smilies"?

They're not really emoji's. The other millennials might get mad.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:21 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:10 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:04 pm Something that bugged me about the last day phase was the way MP was acting so panicked about getting lynched when he was in 2nd place to Quin

Something that bugged me part 2: was the way Quin pushed me to explain the ping of suspicion towards him and then Speedchuck used that as the definitive reference to discredit the case against Quin
I read MP the opposite way for that. I felt the burning passion of a flaming sock trying to make something happen on Day 1. I don't see why being in 2nd place matters much, especially since in yesterdays case the top lynch contender only had 4 votes at its peak. Lots of room for shenanigans.
it mainly matters to me because if things stayed the way they were he wouldn't have needed to be as concerned as he was

I'm not one to wait until I'm the next train before I do anything about it, myself.

I voted for dunya here, Kyle

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:00 pmWilgy, not Ddl.

And another Wilgy vote, Kyle.

a link if it please you

well k

Less-than-available baddie MP doesn't try to CFD temmie dunya Day 1.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:31 pm Nice job! I knew my original paranoia was right. :P

I think this clears quite a few players and I think this sets up tomorrow's kybxh very nicely. I'd think quin due to mp refusing to lynch vote him and vice versa, this also pretty much clears LC and daisy into

I'd think shut up

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:54 pm Baddies are probably dunya, LC, and Daisy, I guess? I wish I had more time to play this cycle. Sorry to let you all down.

Rule of threes, boys.

That said, they're all people that look good in light of his flip. Spooky. I'm in no rush to award LC and Daisy townclears though. Busy MP breeds bussing.

you tell 'im boss!

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:39 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:31 pm Nice job! I knew my original paranoia was right. :P

I think this clears quite a few players and I think this sets up tomorrow's kybxh very nicely. I'd think quin due to mp refusing to lynch vote him and vice versa, this also pretty much clears LC and daisy into
It could make sense if we consider we now know MP's ISO on Quin was staged. Maybe he wanted to look like he was suspecting Quin before jumping on someone else, as he did (went went to an OMGUS on me very fast).

Tho maybe he also wanted to make the vote look more natural as I theorized at the time.

First paragraph means Quin is bad, second one means hes civ, in case it isn't obvious.

Which do you think it is?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:44 pm Right now I'm leaning on you being bad, mainly because how you both were taking your sweet time to vote for each other.

What scared you about that on Day 1?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:45 pm However...

After I l started the Wilgy wagon you had zero votes, so maybe I'm being unfair to you since you didnt need a survival vote.

I don't really get it but if it means you reconsider then I'm all for it

Go for it. Better anyone air their grievances now than later.

My biggest supporter got night killed. Oh, woe is me.

hi jack

immediate self-preservation can kiss my ass, sig.
MP didn't redirect the lynch; it takes two to tango, sig.
Top suspects don't get to redirect lynches, sig.
You should look into who fell in with MP's chaos, sig.
He did move his vote, it just wasn't in time, sig.
you suck, sig.

Why are you trying to lynch a townie?

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:21 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:19 pm Why are you trying to lynch a townie?
convince us who's bad. I would like to lynch one of the 2 non-performers if Seinfeld has taught me anything, too.

Not my style. Showing that I'm good comes first. I can't make you come to that conclusion on my own.

A spark of inspiration begs a tinfoil: MP and DDL are teammates. I'll think on it before EoD.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:40 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:38 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:21 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:19 pm Why are you trying to lynch a townie?
convince us who's bad. I would like to lynch one of the 2 non-performers if Seinfeld has taught me anything, too.
Not my style. Showing that I'm good comes first. I can't make you come to that conclusion on my own.
tell me how you acted exceptionally good.

Bad question. What do my posts say about me?

dunya, in your experience, what typically happens to the survivor of lynch ties? I ask because pre-Wilgy, it was DDL and MP topping the list. I don't often see them lynched immediately after. Two top suspects who are bad pitting themselves against each other could make the survivor look semi-decent at face value, no? I'ma look into their interactions with each other to see if something is there.

I've also come to agree with LC, there. I town-read you for MP's CFD attempt and have no reason to suspect Daisy.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:58 pm I don't feel comfortable being part of the apparently easy Quin bandwagon. Sorry to do this, but moving to NewTraditionalist although it's statistically more likely Jack replaced the nonactive scum than the nonactive vanilla townie, I would think.

I do trust sig, but I'm not feeling as great about DDL as I was on the first day. Will try to review my notes.

I don't think it's wise to read into replacement order as a scum tactic. That could be determined in a lot of ways.

as a scumhunting tactic*

I don't like DDL's argument that MP was suspicious for ISO'ing the person with the most votes first.

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