The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:37 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:32 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:27 pm The town agenda is equally obvious. Add a fifteenth strike to Speedy.
*snrk*

I have stopped caring completely.
It’s pronounced *snikt*

actually its pronounced *kink*

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:49 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:46 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:15 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:09 pm In double checking the actual name of the ID ability just now, I realized there’s a possible explanation to all this night actuon discrepency that hasn’t been brought up yet, or at least hasn’t been a part of the main conversation: Arresto Momentum.
This spell delays another student’s movement. This will make whatever abilities they use have their effect delayed to the following night.
Is it possible that either one of Quin or speedchuck simply had their night actions pushed back a night, so that what they thought they had done on Night 2 actually came into effect on Night 3?
I didn't do anything night 2.

@Quin Did you visit Long Con night 2?
I also didn't do anything night 2.
Then I’m back to thinking one of you is a no good dirty liar.

That's m'boy.

btw was that another classic sloonei townslip or just me

poutanko wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:13 pm @juliets Back up wagon Idk if maf has anything to redirect the lynch or make it fail again and INH vote was still valid yesterday. Colin should be cleared now.

Quin should be cleared also unless maf has another member with patronum.

@Sloonei It's Divination. What I think:
>Timmer vouched for Speed and said his kill was redirected to novase that made him read Speed as Town. This make sense for me to get guilty result if Speed dodo-ing himself to novase. He said he didn't have it. There's Jay's block on Timmer also.
>I might be Imperio'd to target someone else and ended up getting guilty but that's weird, it makes more sense if maf redirect me to inno target instead of a guilty one (it's N1). Some dodo might switch my "new" intended target to a guilty one.
>No Imperio on me and some dodo hit Speed but then how did it end up with novase if Speed has no redirect himself? Novase was modblocked. More than 1 dodo?
>Secrets

Speed's posts, his interaction with LC, LC defended him and vice versa (Speed especially on N3) - not town. Act like scum, talk like scum, I won't call him Mathilda

i dont get it but i agree wholeheartedly that i should be confirmed town

runescape

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:20 pm I am going to use the Net Promoter Score system to determine who is scum.

On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being never would and 10 being definitely would, how likely are you to recommend X PLAYER to your friends and family?

ColinIsCool - 4
DharmaHelper - 6
JaggedJimmyJay - 7
Speedchuck 2.0 - 1
juliets 2.0 - 10
Sloonei - 5
poutanko - 6
Lunalee - 3
nutella - 9
Quin - 3
Jackofhearts2005 - 6
karavalenge - 5
sprityo - 4
timmer - 8

So these numbers are the result of asking myself the question "would you trust them in a room with your children?" Now if I order them you have your remaining Mafia clearly on the bottom here.

juliets 2.0 - 10
nutella - 9
timmer - 8
JaggedJimmyJay - 7
DharmaHelper - 6
poutanko - 6
Jackofhearts2005 - 6
Sloonei - 5
ColinIsCool - 4
sprityo - 4
Quin - 3
Lunalee - 3
Speedchuck 2.0 - 1

Now if anyone can point me at solid evidence for why they or someone else should have their number modified, I will entertain it, because I am certainly not one who has read much of the thread. For instance Lunalee is quite low on my list but appears to not be the centre of too much discussion so I presume there is some townfirm situation I have missed that has cleared her?

you reckon me vs speedchuck is fabricated?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:22 pm And here I was presuming speedchuck would be the one to immediately address my beautiful analysis with such asinine response. That it was in fact you Quin, makes me feel like I should swap your positions.

sorry i was just a bit peeved you wouldn't let me near your children

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:05 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:01 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:53 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:23 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:19 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:14 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:46 am It's possible Quin is town. His actions make more sense if he's town.

I just don't know HOW

I'm reading genuquin, and reality took a crap on my quindar
so speed, I am looking at this post and trying to reconcile it with your scum list. This post makes it sound like you are seeing Quin as civ but he's on your scum list - what am I missing?
Have you read day 4?
yes but didn't the reveal of INH at the end of day 4 include something (I'll have to go back and see what) that made Quin seem more town? I want to say Poutanko pointed it out. I thought it explained how his night action could be true. I'll go back and look.
Suppose the mafia only has one player with a patronus.

Since INH had a patronus, that makes anyone else with a patronus town.

Quin claims to have a patronus. If Quin is town, he is telling the truth about this.

Therefore, if Quin is town and the mafia don’t have duplicate powers, Quin is town.

This is the argument Pout puts forth. I’m sure you can see the problem with this reasoning.
Yes, I do. So do you think Quin just tossed off that patronus line to timmer (as quoted by JJJ) as a lie? But why? Why say anything unless he is trying to combat what speed said about him visiting LC. The thing I need to nail down is did he toss off that line before or after speed said he visited LC. It seems like he said it before but I need to check.
Mm evening he did say it unprompted it's a gambit I could see scumquin doing to come out and say he tried to help the vig to get town cred. Orrr timmer is scum with him and it's part of an even bigger ploy, but I find that pretty unlikely.

How can you see me doing this when I have never told a role related lie in the history of my playing mafia?

fyi for poe just take my 'speedchuck is bad' poe from before. it's 7.

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:00 pm @Quin by the time you get here I am exhausted (not your fault that your time zone is so different). If you have any further thoughts that would help on the puzzle of you and speed please put them out there.

Everything I know about it I've said already.

I'm GenuQuin.

I don't remember my exact mindset at the time, but that post had nothing to do with Bullzeye and everything to do with me. Hopefully that's enough for you because I'd prefer not to elaborate.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:52 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:45 am I don't remember my exact mindset at the time, but that post had nothing to do with Bullzeye and everything to do with me. Hopefully that's enough for you because I'd prefer not to elaborate.
You have bigger worries, as you can see.

i'm not worried fam

well, here's one i can debunk right away:

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:01 pm townslips aren't real guys

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:04 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:01 am well, here's one i can debunk right away:

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:01 pm townslips aren't real guys

The townslip crap isn't terribly important in the grand scheme of things. I don't think any mafioso expects to be taken seriously saying that about [whoever].

I had to be sure. You went on the warpath the last time a made a joke in a mafia game.

I also can't do anything about the stuff Owner said about me, which seems like where near all of the meat is. So here we are.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:25 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:11 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:06 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:03 am I said "insight" instead of "incite", so I deserve any insults coming my way.
Honestly you know what, not even worth responding to that shit ass case anymore.
You keep calling it a “case”
I mean, unless we're just "red" because of quin's hair...

oi

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:43 pm You better have a damn good explanation m'boy.

And @karavalenge you're not off the hook either. I still don't really believe a town motivation for flooing speed.

You sure work fast.

So...I can't vote today. That's a bit awkward, LOL!

There's a nice segue there though.

Who wants my hallow?

speedchuck is good, so that makes both pout and kara look bad. pout for an incorrect cop check and kara for her floo powder thing. I lean kara.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:19 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:14 pm So...I can't vote today. That's a bit awkward, LOL!

There's a nice segue there though.

Who wants my hallow?
:o CURVEBALL

i've never been one to pass up drama.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:20 pm So by "who wants my hallow" do you mean you're giving up or do you mean you get to give it away?

If I'm being lynched today then I'm going to decide who gets it. It's powerful.

I'm not giving up, no. I'm town.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:23 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:22 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:20 pm So by "who wants my hallow" do you mean you're giving up or do you mean you get to give it away?
If I'm being lynched today then I'm going to decide who gets it. It's powerful.
Oh. "if" you're being lynched today.

Yes. If.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:24 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:23 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:23 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:22 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:20 pm So by "who wants my hallow" do you mean you're giving up or do you mean you get to give it away?
If I'm being lynched today then I'm going to decide who gets it. It's powerful.
Oh. "if" you're being lynched today.
Yes. If.
Should I assume you have no intention of telling us which Hallow it is?

It's the cloak. I have no problem talking about it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:22 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:19 pm speedchuck is good, so that makes both pout and kara look bad. pout for an incorrect cop check and kara for her floo powder thing. I lean kara.
How does the floo powder thing make kara look bad?

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:20 pm
karavalenge wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:36 pm Yeah, there's not any real reason to hide it since Speed brought it up.

I floo'd him today to see who the "other" person was he referred to who interacted with Long Con and he complied and told me.

In return I let him know that my Night 3 action was to Diricawl with him, which does not appear to have affected anything.
I don't like this much. Why did kara need to know?

Someone elaborated a bit more on this, though I can't remember who. speed was talking about a potential town clear so I just find it a bit disingenuous that she'd expect to be given information the rest of us weren't.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:27 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:24 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:23 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:23 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:22 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:20 pm So by "who wants my hallow" do you mean you're giving up or do you mean you get to give it away?
If I'm being lynched today then I'm going to decide who gets it. It's powerful.
Oh. "if" you're being lynched today.
Yes. If.
Should I assume you have no intention of telling us which Hallow it is?
It's the cloak. I have no problem talking about it.
Can Mac have it?

If nobody else fails to impress me today.

whoa bam did i just turn this whole day around haha yikes NICE

the kara thing sounds a bit weak when i put it in words.

Also tonight was the first time we've only had 2 kills. I had my own explanation for this. What does everyone else make of it?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:33 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:30 pm the kara thing sounds a bit weak when i put it in words.
i feel like this game is set up so that anyone could theoretically prevent a kill on any night.

Or...survive a kill? Eeeeeh? Eeeeeeeeeeh?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:36 pm But first, a point: having the cloak does not make Quin town, as far as I know.

sprit would be my next choice to lynch after him.

that's true but i was really hoping you'd overlook it

I don't mind.

Night 1 I Arresto Momento'd timmer
Night 2 I did nothing
Night 3 I Expecto Patronumed timmer and Sloonei
Night 4 I used the cloak

If LC role blocked 3J Night 1 (as someone said he targeted him), would that have stopped him role blocking timmer? If so, my delay would have worked. I'll figure out who his target was.

He tried to kill Bullz Night 1 but said he was role blocked. So that wasn't right.

timmer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:12 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:58 am
timmer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:53 am As for bullz... if the baddies aren't necessarily baddies... ugh, I may retract my vouch of bullz. Nova being bad was the centerpiece of my thoughts on that.
If there is even a single reason to believe in this stuff, then it needs to be stated clearly. It would define the entire civilian approach to the game. I have no clue whatsoever why we're talking about this. It's bonkers.
Alright, fuck it. I've been hesitant because I suspect that there is a counterpart to me in the game and I didn't want them to freak out and identify themselves. I'm an odd night vig. I tried to kill bullz night 1. I never considered that I hadbeen blocked, but I saw a kill that didn't happen and a dead BAD nova. I interpreted from the items and spells that bullz must have had the thing that lets you bounce night actions to someone else and he hit nova with it. I further concluded that if bullz was bad he obviously wouldn't have done that. It was the only thing that made sense.

In light of this I could for him.

After realizing I had been blocked I assumed that the mafia had targeted bullz instead because nova was obviously not their target, and somehow nova was dead, and I hadn't killed anyone.

But then another night goes by and another dead baddie ave iI and well hey there is probably an even night version of me and they succeeded yay them.

But now this what if they aren't bad idea, and THEN I realize wait, who the fuck has the second kill night 1 if it wasn't me? And here we are... there must be a third killer of some sort.

But now I'm totally exposed, which sucks, but it's really my own doing.

Actually, it's still possible. Here.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:16 pm Uh FYI this plan sucks and won't catch any baddies because all the killing and shit the baddies do is in addition to their normal Hogwarts powers lol good job

i mean you say this so confidently but you're also voting for me which demeans everything you have to say today ever

karavalenge wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:38 pm It appeared to be a gambit to try to get early votes on me to make the idea sound good when it's not. I'll switch to Quin if they never explain yesterday in a way that works with Speed's info.

Y'all act like speed's flip means I should have all the answers if I'm good. I don't.

If I knew what happened, you think I'd have gone through the shouting match yesterday?

Accept it or lynch me.

I have never told a role related lie as scum. That isn't how I operate and anybody who knows anything about my scum meta should realise this.

what is stopping you from voting for me right now kara?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:25 pm Sloonei and Quin were quick to reveal all their night actions weren't they.

Quite so.

You were quick to chicken out.

timmer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:37 am Voting Quinn for now. Only reveals TODAY that he rejected my kill night 1? I'm not buying that. And Quinn and sloonei are top baddie options 1 and 2 for me. They had an extra long night to cook this shit up.

mate i've been hinting it for days

what do you think i was talking about when i went on about your night 1 with 3J?

timmer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:51 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:46 am
timmer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:37 am Voting Quinn for now. Only reveals TODAY that he rejected my kill night 1? I'm not buying that. And Quinn and sloonei are top baddie options 1 and 2 for me. They had an extra long night to cook this shit up.
mate i've been hinting it for days

what do you think i was talking about when i went on about your night 1 with 3J?
Then give me your read on sloonei, please.

scoff

I'm not playing "Hey let's all crawl so tightly up Quin's ass he can't sit down for the next 48 hours" game. Make it known now.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:21 am Do I see a baddie saying "I have a hallow please dont lynch me" ? Nah
Do I see a civvie saying "I have a hallow please don't lynch me" ? Equally nah.

what if the person in question said nothing at all about using the hallow as a defence

it's like you guys really don't believe me when i say i don't tell lies and honestly that hurts more than that time i got hit by the knight bus

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:50 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:46 am it's like you guys really don't believe me when i say i don't tell lies and honestly that hurts more than that time i got hit by the knight bus
Knight bus?

READ THE BOOKS

I've played mafia with Sloonei for a long time. In the grand scheme of things, he doesn't have all that much more experience playing with me than you all do, but we've actively forumed on the same site for years. He has a better grasp of my personality far better than anyone else here.

When I said "I don't tell lies when I'm mafia" he should have been the first to support me on that fact, regardless of what he actually thought of my alignment.

He's said nothing and I hate that.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:50 am
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:46 am I've played mafia with Sloonei for a long time. In the grand scheme of things, he doesn't have all that much more experience playing with me than you all do, but we've actively forumed on the same site for years. He has a better grasp of my personality far better than anyone else here.

When I said "I don't tell lies when I'm mafia" he should have been the first to support me on that fact, regardless of what he actually thought of my alignment.

He's said nothing and I hate that.
I can't vouch for the validity of this statement. I do not currently intend to vote for you.

Did I scum-slip?

Hell no you didn't.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:56 am
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:53 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:50 am
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:46 am I've played mafia with Sloonei for a long time. In the grand scheme of things, he doesn't have all that much more experience playing with me than you all do, but we've actively forumed on the same site for years. He has a better grasp of my personality far better than anyone else here.

When I said "I don't tell lies when I'm mafia" he should have been the first to support me on that fact, regardless of what he actually thought of my alignment.

He's said nothing and I hate that.
I can't vouch for the validity of this statement. I do not currently intend to vote for you.

Did I scum-slip?
Hell no you didn't.
Thank you.

Is anyone interested in talking about Colin yet?

I stand by my theory Colin wanted to waste a rezz. With the implication of fake flips.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:59 am
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:58 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:56 am
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:53 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:50 am
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:46 am I've played mafia with Sloonei for a long time. In the grand scheme of things, he doesn't have all that much more experience playing with me than you all do, but we've actively forumed on the same site for years. He has a better grasp of my personality far better than anyone else here.

When I said "I don't tell lies when I'm mafia" he should have been the first to support me on that fact, regardless of what he actually thought of my alignment.

He's said nothing and I hate that.
I can't vouch for the validity of this statement. I do not currently intend to vote for you.

Did I scum-slip?
Hell no you didn't.
Thank you.

Is anyone interested in talking about Colin yet?
I stand by my theory Colin wanted to waste a rezz. With the implication of fake flips.
I do not remember this theory. Care to refresh me?

Early on Colin kept talking about wanting to be lynched so he could be rezzed as confirmed town. The logic behind it is counter-productive and wasteful, and it didn't feel genuine as he said it.

Given that Polyjuice potion (a potion that lets you transform into someone else for a time) is such a prominent thing in the series I'm not struggling to see scum Colin wanting to get lynched, flip civ and get rezzed.

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