The Syndicate

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:02 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:56 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:54 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:52 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:06 am also, off the top of my head----relevant, noteworthy things I remember Quin has done so far: zero. none. nuthin'. (ok that's a lie, I remember he tried to get a photo of Jay's butt, but that's it.) Why's that?

The same can be said about:
rabbit8, DrWilgy, lapluie
Because I'm having fun. And he has a great ass.

And I've changed my mind. I dislike you pushing a scum-read quota on me. Explain your thought process.
Because you have almost 50 posts and I only remember the one of you trying to get a glimpse of Jay's ass. There's something wrong in that scenario.
Why should my post count have any influence on how many scum reads I have?
I didn't ask for scum reads, I asked for anything memorable. I don't remember anything apart from you chipping in with game-connections, which is about your greatest contribution to this thread. Do you disagree? Why am I wrong? Link me to three independent thoughts you've developed in this game, beyond townreading DDL and Dr. White in that post. 3 out of ~50 is not asking for a lot. Prove me wrong, and I'll eat my words.

Wrong. This entire conversation is happening because you were unhappy with my lack of "people I dislike". Asking me for content "with the exception of your content" sucks too. Boo you, dunya. Boo you.

I'll talk when I wanna talk

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:41 pm
Dr. White wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:35 pm That's complete and utter bullshit JJJ and you know it. You are clearly being super daft at the original quote, which you have been called out for by others. Saying the interaction between you two is "interesting" is very clear. It was very sus that you would so strongly town read someone THAT EARLY in D1, simply because he gave his own reads that weren't apart of the major town babble. You keep conflating this as if bob had 100 post in Day 1, and 36 hours had passed or something. It was extremely early and on questionable grounds that you gave him such a strong read.

This however does not force the conclusion that both or either of you are scum, which you keep trying to use as a means to sus me for not directly stating such. I am simply making my take on an interaction known. Yes you could be scum buddies, or you could be using him for town cred. I don't know yet, it is something to build upon in later interactions between you two and others in the thread. To quote your system "you lost a point there". Now what you're doing is like someone saying "what do you mean by that JJJ? Why don't you just come out and say I'm scum!".

The fact that you've latched on to me so strongly from this, keep questioning my blatant as hell meaning with the quote, and now are trying to push this narrative that I'm ducking you, is very, very suspect, and I honestly don't believe you are this daft.
What is this and why should I give a shit?

No it fucking isn't.

Horseshit. colonialbob made posts and I made a read. You know what you did in response? Made a read. You made a read that you are presently calling "very sus". That's strong language. How can you have such a strong read so early?

I "keep trying to use it as a means" so hard that I said it one time. Fake.

We could be scumbuddies. I could be buddying a civilian for credit. I can't be town myself. Garbage.

There is nothing blatant about the meaning of "interesting" in a "read" being made in a Mafia game.

You're freaking the fuck out and spewing trash. Die.

This gave me flashbacks to when 3J and I went head to head in Red vs Blue...both times. This ass is town.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:11 pm
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:10 pm I also keep meaning to ask what tinfoiling is?
"tinfoil" is generally used to describe suspicion one has of a player who is generally trusted, or a back-of-mind fear about someone's motives

Quinfoil is also a suitable alternative.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:07 pm hey Quin, I'm still waiting on your 3 contributions.

I feel like a teacher who found a slacking student in the hallway.

Keep waiting. I'm home schooled.

Colin, what do you think scum Epignosis is trying to do in his exercise? What does he get out of it that warrants your non-participation?

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:15 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:14 pm Colin, what do you think scum Epignosis is trying to do in his exercise? What does he get out of it that warrants your non-participation?
he participated so this question has already been asked and answered several times over by various participants. Check Colin's ISO.

I did. The closest answer I found was that its feigning participation. I don't know why that would cause him to react like this.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:20 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:16 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:15 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:14 pm Colin, what do you think scum Epignosis is trying to do in his exercise? What does he get out of it that warrants your non-participation?
he participated so this question has already been asked and answered several times over by various participants. Check Colin's ISO.
I did. The closest answer I found was that its feigning participation. I don't know why that would cause him to react like this.
I meant he participated; he told him that his picks would have been totally random (as several other players said). And Colin's argument wasn't about what scum Epi was trying to do in the exercise, it was about how Epi drew so much attention to himself as someone who was plotting scum's downfall so openly in the thread on Day 1 with an exercise he initiated.

Okay, he participated. He still refused to participate because he suspected Epi. I'd like that cleared up. I don't agree with the latter. See:

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:56 am
Kites wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:48 am
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:40 pm
Kenway wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:38 pm Oh wait, Sloonei isn't in this game, I have to pick another one up.

JJJ is the likeliest candidate but putting him and Dunya on a scum team is probably predictable, so I'll choose MacDougall instead. I don't know why but I always want to be on his good side. Also, I've been scum with him before, so there's that.
This post is so scummy you've gotta be town.
what do you mean by this? it was obviously an answer to epignosis’ question.

speaking of epignosis, he’s the most suspicious person imo. i don’t know if this ”who would your mafia mates be” survey is a common thing on this site but i don’t remember people doing it in rym games. it doesn’t give any useful information, cos the answer is so easy to fake it might actually help scum mislead people i dunno

i think he’s just tryna make a false impression he’s contributing sth valuable to the game
I agree, leaning towards a vote here unless there’s a good defense or argument against someone else (still wary of that Mac situation)

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:21 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:12 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:11 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:09 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:06 pm Man, I am not playing that game. You haven't come up with one good reason for why I should be lynched, just a blatant misreading of what I said. I don't owe you shit and if you kill me all you'll do is demonstrate exactly how unhelpful you are to the town.
I'm not blatantly misreading what you said, I just don't think it makes much sense.
This is to Epignosis. Last time I checked you weren't threatening to kill me?
Ah. My vote is currently on you, hence my confusion.
Yeah, I didn't see that.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:13 pm Colin, who's bad?
Suspicious of Nutella for reasons stated earlier, super wary of Epignosis for reasons noted earlier. I think you have made a few statements along the lines of "I have never seen x happen in a Mafia game" or "I would never do y in that position" which make me feel weird. That one post Kenway made a billion pages ago that other people pointed out as spine tingling also made my spine tingle. Can I go home yet?

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:14 pm Colin, what do you think scum Epignosis is trying to do in his exercise? What does he get out of it that warrants your non-participation?
A scum Epignosis might want people to believe that there is something to be gleaned from the exercise when there isn't. Or try to mislead somehow from that information. But I'm not really sure if Epignosis is scum. As for the second part, I have answered this, I said I would pick people at random because I don't know anybody here.

I can appreciate this. If it's not already in your ISO I'd like to hear more. Ignore me if it is, I haven't checked.

why did you do that?

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:39 pm why did you do that?

oh ok its because im not posting

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:58 pm for all the back and forth Dr. White was involved in, I'm really surprised he didn't place a vote on anyone he called suss yesterday.

Quin was around, posting fluff and not contributing.

--

Mafia are more likely to vote because they need to appear to be leveling up every phase. I can't argue that rabbit and lap aren't scum since they're MIA completely, but I'd wonder if sprityo, Quin and Dr. White understood how leveling up occurs.

hey dunya why are you lying right now? i had 2 fluff posts day 1 and one of them is about jaggedjimmyjays ass so it's still relevant.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:08 pm A few people have encountered my spat with Dr. White and discarded it as civilian-civilian. I am irked. He might be a civilian; you could be right. I want a more thorough discussion than that though. Too often do players have a tendency to see two players screaming at each other and just assume "meh, civ-civ". I'm going to reduce my concern to one primary factor:

Dr. White wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:44 pm I too do not like how Mac tried to make a quicklist of reads based on pretty much intuition alone. Even if on vacation, why posit that as contribution? Seems like he was trying to feign activity. The split between him and colonial is very interesting.

I however found JJJ "strong town reading" Colonial interesting, since it was solely on the grounds of him listing his own reads. Mafia can easily do that as well as to not appear like they are parroting . That is a very interesting link given the colonial-Mac dynamic.

Dr. White wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:35 pm That's complete and utter bullshit JJJ and you know it. You are clearly being super daft at the original quote, which you have been called out for by others. Saying the interaction between you two is "interesting" is very clear. It was very sus that you would so strongly town read someone THAT EARLY in D1, simply because he gave his own reads that weren't apart of the major town babble. You keep conflating this as if bob had 100 post in Day 1, and 36 hours had passed or something. It was extremely early and on questionable grounds that you gave him such a strong read.

This however does not force the conclusion that both or either of you are scum, which you keep trying to use as a means to sus me for not directly stating such. I am simply making my take on an interaction known. Yes you could be scum buddies, or you could be using him for town cred. I don't know yet, it is something to build upon in later interactions between you two and others in the thread. To quote your system "you lost a point there". Now what you're doing is like someone saying "what do you mean by that JJJ? Why don't you just come out and say I'm scum!".

The fact that you've latched on to me so strongly from this, keep questioning my blatant as hell meaning with the quote, and now are trying to push this narrative that I'm ducking you, is very, very suspect, and I honestly don't believe you are this daft.
The first post is the "interesting" sandwich. Don't concern yourself with the specific word. Just read the content and then proceed to the highlighted material below.

Do you believe the following two things are true and fair?

1. Dr. White's meaning was obvious.

2. I should have known Dr. White's meaning.

no and no

Question. Does RYM hate that word as much as you do?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:14 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:12 pm no and no

Question. Does RYM hate that word as much as you do?
I don't even hate the word. It's a meme from The Syndicate Past.

Bringing it up was the genesis of the interaction between he and I though, to my memory.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:14 pm
Dr. White wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:12 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:09 pm
Dr. White wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:06 pm Did I peg you right already so you go for the linguistic call out? So sad.
No that can't be it, because you didn't "peg" me as anything. You called my behavior "interesting". Is that a read? What does that mean?
Interesting, meaning worthy of note. Adding that to the context of you strongly town reading someone off of one action this early in the game and I believe you got your answer J dog.
I still don't have an answer. I have vague implications. Is it suspicious to strongly town read someone of one action this early in the game? Talk straight, Doc.

Looking here, I'd say this is his answer. When I say things like "Here's an observation -" It's the same thing. I'm not trying to make a read of it, but it's something that can go in the back pocket to be evaluated later, or something I'm inviting others to read into.

The problem is that calling something "interesting" is too ambiguous.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:16 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:43 pm Marmot, if I target you then all the goodies will happen to me instead.
You're permitted to not target me then. Or rundontwalk for that matter.

I expect every other player to target me though.

Why? Reasons will eventually become clear.

i also abstain because i don't want to risk killing my precious marmot, but i do know why my precious marmot wanted to kill me.

same with long con.

Though on White, now I'm not so sure because his linguistic call out post infers he suspected 3J for that.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:23 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:16 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:43 pm Marmot, if I target you then all the goodies will happen to me instead.
You're permitted to not target me then. Or rundontwalk for that matter.

I expect every other player to target me though.

Why? Reasons will eventually become clear.
i also abstain because i don't want to risk killing my precious marmot, but i do want to know why my precious marmot wanted to kill me.

same with long con.

ebwop

i do suspect dunya. the argument that a civilian should be meeting a scum read quota is bad. i also suspect nutella for following through with that argument.

i know you all just tried to (literally) murder me in my sleep but please have rico try to recruit me we're the best duo the syndicate has ever seen

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:43 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:36 pm i do suspect dunya. the argument that a civilian should be meeting a scum read quota is bad. i also suspect nutella for following through with that argument.
How about the argument that your post history to this point has featured barely more than nothing despite being of a well-higher-than-nothing count?

valid.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:07 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:31 pm @Epignosis @MacDougall @sprityo do you guys have any idea what the post and the "trio of adventuring" stuff in the OP is all about
I think so. It matches my backstory a bit.

It's a reference to L'Arachel, Rennac and Dozla from the Sacred Stones.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:07 pm @Epignosis, there is at least one serious flaw in your analysis. You clear Iron_Dwarf, Kites, and Kenway for not getting picked, yet several people said that they'd choose one RYMer, and you didn't take that into account as a likelihood that these players would be picked. There is absolutely no reason you should clear these players.

Otherwise you have some decent thoughts. Your dunya analysis is intriguing, though there is a lot of WIFOM involved there. Still seems like a really far-fetched tinfoil based on her playing style so far though, but perhaps I shouldn't discount it out of hand

What about 3J? Why single out dunya?

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:53 am Oh you meant my vote, not some night power thing... I voted to save my Pegasister nutella. She's town, and she's not up for lynch. I thought I was going to have to vote Epi, but then the Quin vote became the only way. PLUS several people have stated that your ISO is "full of fluff", and that doesn't sound good. What's up with that?

My draft-phase posts were fluff. My okay-time-to-get-my-shit-together-phase posts were not.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:18 am Let's get the ball rolling

[VOTE: QUIN ] aubergine

Aubergine

Let's get it rolling in literally any other direction.

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:33 am
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:28 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:18 am Let's get the ball rolling

[VOTE: QUIN ] aubergine

Aubergine
Let's get it rolling in literally any other direction.
Which way?

Why not you? I'm curious why you've been absent from this thread despite posts in other games.

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:34 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:40 pm I don't suspect dunya because her posts look like civilian posts and there are 500 of them.
Or this could be a mafia tactic?

I've seen scum struggle to insert themselves into a game. What dunya is doing is the opposite of that. Thoughts?

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:38 am
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:40 pm @Kylemii you have 8 minutes vote for quin he;s bad
What makes quin bad, was he inactive aswell, I noticed he didn't vote ? Correct me if I'm wrong

I was here, though I admit I've been hands off in comparison to other games. I didn't vote because I was asleep for the deadline and didn't know when day ended. wink wink nudge nudge

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:36 am
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:56 pm Dr. White, lapluie, Quin, rabbit8, sprityo - DID NOT LEVEL UP DAY 1

remember guys, if you want to level up Night 1, you have to submit your actions within 12 hours of night commencing!
What happens when one doesn't level up? The most highest ranked is a leader amongst lower ranks or what?

You promote into a better class when you reach level 10. Lower level just means you promote late.

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:40 am
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:38 am
lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:33 am
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:28 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:18 am Let's get the ball rolling

[VOTE: QUIN ] aubergine

Aubergine
Let's get it rolling in literally any other direction.
Which way?
Why not you? I'm curious why you've been absent from this thread despite posts in other games.
What are u talk in about? I wasnt even online the time being, I just got here a few hours ago & saw the thread locked. I had no WiFi at my new apartment as I moved in recently.. I'm catching up

So you weren't posting in other games?

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:52 am
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:50 am
lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:40 am
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:38 am
lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:33 am
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:28 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:18 am Let's get the ball rolling

[VOTE: QUIN ] aubergine

Aubergine
Let's get it rolling in literally any other direction.
Which way?
Why not you? I'm curious why you've been absent from this thread despite posts in other games.
What are u talk in about? I wasnt even online the time being, I just got here a few hours ago & saw the thread locked. I had no WiFi at my new apartment as I moved in recently.. I'm catching up
So you weren't posting in other games?
...yes today... when this thread was locked.. I went over to check sidemission. ..??? Meaning I couldn't post till jack unlocked.

[mention]dunya[/mention] Care to dispute this? I'm lazy.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:53 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:52 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:18 am Let's get the ball rolling

[VOTE: QUIN ] aubergine

Aubergine
I am quite taken aback by your back down on nutella that quickly for that reason.
I'm not backing down for shit. nutella is talking, keep her talking. Get me Quin talking.

Quin talked. I don't care about your quotas.

dunya, lapluie has two posts in Buffy during the course of Day 1 here. Is this what I'm working with in this argument?

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:00 am Anyone wanna discuss why rabbit8?

To kill a low poster, because scum isn't being strategic with kills, to eliminate the triangle attack mechanic. I'm a fan of the latter. It's the easiest night kill to remove from the pool.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:11 am
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:07 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:00 am Anyone wanna discuss why rabbit8?
To kill a low poster, because scum isn't being strategic with kills, to eliminate the triangle attack mechanic. I'm a fan of the latter. It's the easiest night kill to remove from the pool.
Why not kill Long Con?

Because rabbit had no legacy to leave behind?

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:15 am
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:14 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:11 am
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:07 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:00 am Anyone wanna discuss why rabbit8?
To kill a low poster, because scum isn't being strategic with kills, to eliminate the triangle attack mechanic. I'm a fan of the latter. It's the easiest night kill to remove from the pool.
Why not kill Long Con?
Because rabbit had no legacy to leave behind?
What legacy does Long Con have?

He's said more than rabbit by a long shot.

lapluie, you got right into the thick of it despite your lack of familiarity in MK. In this game, I'm reading posts like this:

lapluie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:49 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:12 pm lapluie, you have shown elsewhere that you can get involved and stay involved with a fast-moving game in a new place. You have 5 posts in this game. Why?
yes I apologize that is on me, I am lacking interaction in these bigger games due to the complexity of it, larger games are frustrating & i still have a mountain of pages to read throughly here & another active one. it's holding me back a bit on being communicative, will try my best to catch up.

lapluie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:06 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:21 pm I can almost feel a tangible trepidation on the part of LAPLUIE.
Um excuse me? I just caught up on this whole fiasco

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:50 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:33 pm I’m halfway through these 20 pages and I want to end all of your lives and my own for having to read so much
There's 61 pages for me & I've read a bit, I'm seeing zigzags

I call this playing with a crutch. It's something scum does.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:16 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:14 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:04 pm dunya I've had enough of your insistence that I haven't given a reason for townreading you when I have done so multiple times now
I am trying to lay off you btw, please don't think I'm badgering or tunneling intentionally, but people keep asking me specific questions about you.

Is Quin's low activity the only reason you are pinged by him?
It's not "low activity," it's that when he has posted his posts have been largely devoid of actual content/hunting/reads

You are going to qualify this and I am going to laugh at you as you fail miserably.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:02 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:13 pm where the heck is @sig ? sig, my man, did you attempt to kill anyone last night?
Nope, I made the tactical decision to wait, I don't feel like we have enough information yet as a group to warrant me making a kill based on what the majority wants in thread, I myself am not confident enough in any mafia reads to let out a kill, and the last group of people I'd commonly vig would be inactive, however with a few replacements lined up I'd rather not waste potential civs.

So whoever submitted or had a major influence over the team is a TS oldie and/or a Pegasus knight.

I cant catch up right now I have to visit a professor and do some school, but I'll be back to catch up.

If anyone has a specific question feel free to mention me and I'll answer asap.

What does this mean?

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

AUBERGINE

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:20 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:18 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine
Disgusting.

i agree she's so obviously scum hey

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] why haven't you jumped down my throat in this game? I've been waiting.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:22 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:20 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:18 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine
Disgusting.
i agree she's so obviously scum hey
You've actually swapped positions in my rainbow with her though on account of her effort being here

------

And yours being

------
Here

i don't understand any of that but i'll assume it's a good thing.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:29 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:23 pm @JaggedJimmyJay why haven't you jumped down my throat in this game? I've been waiting.
You'll note that I came very near to murdering you, save a lynch stop and a split-second decision to switch to nutella. If you would prefer to avoid murder, you know the drill.

I'm not going to beg for forgiveness or actively try to match a rate of posting you're happy with. I'm posting at a rate that I'm comfortable with given my rl circumstances. These arguments that I'm only posting empty content disgust me.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:30 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:14 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:02 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:13 pm where the heck is @sig ? sig, my man, did you attempt to kill anyone last night?
Nope, I made the tactical decision to wait, I don't feel like we have enough information yet as a group to warrant me making a kill based on what the majority wants in thread, I myself am not confident enough in any mafia reads to let out a kill, and the last group of people I'd commonly vig would be inactive, however with a few replacements lined up I'd rather not waste potential civs.

So whoever submitted or had a major influence over the team is a TS oldie and/or a Pegasus knight.

I cant catch up right now I have to visit a professor and do some school, but I'll be back to catch up.

If anyone has a specific question feel free to mention me and I'll answer asap.
What does this mean?
Rabbit was inacitve meta of TS vets is to target inactive players as mafia. There's a likely chance whomever killed Rabbit was a TS vet.

@Dunya
@JaggedJimmyJay

Commonly would you say RYM players have a habit of targeting inactive players? (I encourage all RYMers to answer this one)

linki: I haven't been around?

Assuming RYM meta differs from us then I'd say that you've got a point. But as I said, if the goal was to remove the triangle attack from the equation rabbit was the natural target for that.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:34 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:32 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:29 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:23 pm @JaggedJimmyJay why haven't you jumped down my throat in this game? I've been waiting.
You'll note that I came very near to murdering you, save a lynch stop and a split-second decision to switch to nutella. If you would prefer to avoid murder, you know the drill.
I'm not going to beg for forgiveness or actively try to match a rate of posting you're happy with. I'm posting at a rate that I'm comfortable with given my rl circumstances. These arguments that I'm only posting empty content disgust me.
I don't care if the arguments disgust you. I do care how you read the players making the argument.

I wouldn't say you've only posted empty content, but you've posted more of it than would be ideal given your post count.

I posted a lot of fluff during the draft phase. I love the theme. It's natural. But when Day 1 started I dropped it. You yourself said that the draft phase encourages more fluff. I don't think you're taking that into account as you read me here.

As for people making the case, nutellas sticks out like a sore thumb. She says even my current content is empty. That's bull. She's also jumped on dunya's idea that I'm bad for not meeting a quota of scum reads (such a terrible argument, truly)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:42 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:40 pm I posted a lot of fluff during the draft phase. I love the theme. It's natural. But when Day 1 started I dropped it. You yourself said that the draft phase encourages more fluff. I don't think you're taking that into account as you read me here.

As for people making the case, nutellas sticks out like a sore thumb. She says even my current content is empty. That's bull. She's also jumped on dunya's idea that I'm bad for not meeting a quota of scum reads (such a terrible argument, truly)
I think your fluff extended beyond draft time. If it had been draft-specific fluff I wouldn't care.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:48 pm
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Kites wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:35 am feels at the moment:
I’m comfortable around:
ColinIsCool
Dr. White
dunya
JJJ
Long Con
MacDougall
Marmot
Neutral:
DDL
gwilikers6
Kylemii
rdw
sprityo
Hmmmm... :
Iron_Dwarf
Kenway
nutella
rabbit8: the longer he’s gone the more I think he’s just not interested in this game
sig
TonyStarkPrime
Confused:
Epignosis - pls start giving reads on people, I’ll leave you alone for now tho
lapluie - post more
Quin - you gotta do more to redeem yourself
Bad feeling:
colonialbob - changed his votes frequently, almost exclusively between inactive people to invite them to talk - afraid to be responsible for false lynch?
DrWilgy - no useful content, weird dunya vote and no explanation

I hope I did the colors right

Kenway Can you explain your rainbow list in a little bit more detail please?

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:57 pm I'm counting your fluff Quin. Stand ready.

After you do that, you can tell me what the problem was with the occasional fluff post in every other game I have played on the Syndicate. Thank you.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:04 pm Quin has taken a lot of flak in this game for being fluffy. I have given Quin flak for being fluffy. I grant though that at least in my case, this has been a perception derived from my own progression through the thread without a thorough dig. So now I dig.

As of right now, Quin has 96 posts.

He made 33 posts during the drafting period. Remove them from consideration (I will at least, you may not be so inclined dear readers). 63 remain.

I would call the following posts fluffy in that they do not progress a hunt in a readily discernible way:

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 09#p406909
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 75#p407375
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 01#p407401
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 95#p407595
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 30#p407630
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 42#p407642
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 11#p408511
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 20#p408520
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 09#p409509
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 46#p410046

10 posts.

These posts are self-defense, primarily against accusations of fluff, without an obvious reads-oriented development therein:

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 00#p406900
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 18#p409618
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 31#p410031
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 42#p410042
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 60#p410060
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 73#p410473
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 92#p410492

7 posts.

63 - 10 - 7 = 46

This leaves 46 hunting-relevant posts, or just under half of his present post count and 73% of his non-draft day post count. This is a greater percentage than I anticipated. It isn't lovely and there is still fluff, but it isn't some glaring, terrible thing either. Those who have accused Quin of doing nothing should review this assessment and his posts as well and then report their own conclusions. I would say that it as at least no longer tenable to discard Quin as having done nothing of note. That is inaccurate.

A separate accusation which would be fairer given the data available is that Quin has not engaged anyone substantively. There have been pokes, prods, and jabs -- but no continued investigation of any single thing (that I can readily observe).

This was more open minded than I expected. Thanks.

I'll let you describe mechanics posts as fluff, but I do have some issues with what you've pointed out. I'll explain them.

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