The Syndicate

I need to figure out how to respond to stuff because quoting works differently than it did last time I was here, but having like 3/4 of the punk gang call me out for low participation or whatever is both hilarious and complete bullshit. I've got words about how easily they just accepted Marmot as one of the gang when he showed up out of buttfuck nowhere but I'll catch up first.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:07 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:05 pm Can you briefly summarize what Quin did in the thread to make you scumread them?
They did the least!!!
While maybe I did but I was emotional support you gotta believe me xD.

I can actually go into it later maybe. I gotta get read for work

Explain to me exactly what conversations I didn't take part in. What input I should have given that I didn't. Literally name one thing that went on in our BTSC where you thought my participation was lacking.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:18 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:17 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:12 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:11 pm yeah i think hyena's town here. still think tsp is town, too.
has hyena... said anything??
yeah. hyena's activity in the group chat is hella town imo
not that i've seen this group chat lol i obv haven't but like based on his posts. also people in the gc are town reading him too so i bet he's been PRO-TOWN

Nobody was pro-towning it in there. There wasn't an incentive to do much more than share reads and talk about who we'd roleblock.

Thank you for asking TSP is bad

Nutella is also bad on the premise that she hasn't shown me what I'm looking for in a town nutella yet.

Marmot is also bad. His only contribution to the chat was that "it's weird that funnygurl is super active at the start of day but at EoD nowhere to be seen" and hasn't shared that read despite being in the thread.

actually while we're on the topic of marmot the response to marmot showing up on night 1 in our chat was incredibly underwhelming. nanook literally said our gang was myself, TL, hyena and TH and nobody batted an eye.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:27 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:20 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:18 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:17 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:12 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:11 pm yeah i think hyena's town here. still think tsp is town, too.
has hyena... said anything??
yeah. hyena's activity in the group chat is hella town imo
not that i've seen this group chat lol i obv haven't but like based on his posts. also people in the gc are town reading him too so i bet he's been PRO-TOWN
Nobody was pro-towning it in there. There wasn't an incentive to do much more than share reads and talk about who we'd roleblock.
why are people town-reading hyena? what do you make of the group chat y'all were in?

he talked a lot. apparently lots of words equates to being supahtown.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:30 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:30 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:27 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:20 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:18 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:17 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:12 pm

has hyena... said anything??
yeah. hyena's activity in the group chat is hella town imo
not that i've seen this group chat lol i obv haven't but like based on his posts. also people in the gc are town reading him too so i bet he's been PRO-TOWN
Nobody was pro-towning it in there. There wasn't an incentive to do much more than share reads and talk about who we'd roleblock.
why are people town-reading hyena? what do you make of the group chat y'all were in?
he talked a lot. apparently lots of words equates to being supahtown.
that's basically how it works on my home site lmaooo

oh no

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:32 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:22 pm Thank you for asking TSP is bad

Nutella is also bad on the premise that she hasn't shown me what I'm looking for in a town nutella yet.
wait what this is spicy

i disagree but it's spicy

town nutella has this air of 'get out of my way i'm solving this' about her. it's kind of like her defining feature to a lot of people and she knows it (she even brought it up earlier in the game). i'm not gonna go out of my way to lynch her right now but i'll be breathing down her neck until she gives me what i'm looking for.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:32 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:22 pm Thank you for asking TSP is bad

Nutella is also bad on the premise that she hasn't shown me what I'm looking for in a town nutella yet.
wait what this is spicy

i disagree but it's spicy

im a bitter angry man

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:35 pm Quin you seemed to have felt Marmot's entrance into the 4P gang is a big deal and that people should have taken it a lot more seriously. Can you break down for me why this is a surprising development or why we should suspect Marmot based off it?

I mean, if you're in a BTSC with 3 other people and you've been told those are the only people you have BTSC with, would you not be cautious if someone else suddenly dropped in? I don't actually doubt anything Marmot has said regarding why/how he joined but the responses to his entrance were literally

TH: i trust you implicitly lol jk
TL: Nice
Hyena: oh hey a new punk

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:36 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:34 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:22 pm Thank you for asking TSP is bad

Nutella is also bad on the premise that she hasn't shown me what I'm looking for in a town nutella yet.
bro you haven't played with me in like 2 years

i'm way more assertive now ftr

and i killed mafia
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:34 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:32 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:22 pm Thank you for asking TSP is bad

Nutella is also bad on the premise that she hasn't shown me what I'm looking for in a town nutella yet.
wait what this is spicy

i disagree but it's spicy
town nutella has this air of 'get out of my way i'm solving this' about her. it's kind of like her defining feature to a lot of people and she knows it (she even brought it up earlier in the game). i'm not gonna go out of my way to lynch her right now but i'll be breathing down her neck until she gives me what i'm looking for.

hello do you have a comment

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:32 pm This has become a clusterfuck. I'm gonna blow myself up after I figure out the best target. I'm just gonna go to Vulgard/LC spew.
I nominate funnygurl or quin

why

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:41 pm Maybe we just have different expectations regarding the setup but the way the game was marketed to me as "role madness with arguably bastard elements", it would not surprise me if there was a role that could join BTSCs.

i already said i didn't doubt marmot's claim lol that's not my issue right now

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:41 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:40 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:36 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:34 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:22 pm Thank you for asking TSP is bad

Nutella is also bad on the premise that she hasn't shown me what I'm looking for in a town nutella yet.
bro you haven't played with me in like 2 years

i'm way more assertive now ftr

and i killed mafia
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:34 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:32 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:22 pm Thank you for asking TSP is bad

Nutella is also bad on the premise that she hasn't shown me what I'm looking for in a town nutella yet.
wait what this is spicy

i disagree but it's spicy
town nutella has this air of 'get out of my way i'm solving this' about her. it's kind of like her defining feature to a lot of people and she knows it (she even brought it up earlier in the game). i'm not gonna go out of my way to lynch her right now but i'll be breathing down her neck until she gives me what i'm looking for.

hello do you have a comment
no

oh ok so u didnt reverse the order of these posts to throw shade?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:41 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:32 pm 4. If it comes to it, I believe @nutella should be able to clear me. I targeted her last night. She should know it wasn't something bad.
ok

this checks out

don't think it's 100% clearing but

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:48 pm fair enough

yeah I'm certainly not clearing enrique then

Spoiler: show
now we wait and see if my conditional vig works on him

this doesn't track nearly as well as people think it does

what did enrique do to make you shoot him on the spot?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:47 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:46 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:41 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:32 pm 4. If it comes to it, I believe @nutella should be able to clear me. I targeted her last night. She should know it wasn't something bad.
ok

this checks out

don't think it's 100% clearing but

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:48 pm fair enough

yeah I'm certainly not clearing enrique then

Spoiler: show
now we wait and see if my conditional vig works on him

this doesn't track nearly as well as people think it does

what did enrique do to make you shoot him on the spot?
I was planning to try shooting him before he revealed that, and that didn't sway me because (a) roles/actions aren't clearing and (b) I had assumed I couldn't accidentally kill town and so there'd be no harm in submitting it anyway, but I was wrong on that

i've decided i'm going to quinfoil nutella so the rest of you don't have to.

if you shoot funnygurl before marmot i will literally shit my pants

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:59 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:57 pm if you shoot funnygurl before marmot i will literally shit my pants
I am currently of the view that LC tried to position Marmot as a viable chop on the day that vulgard was getting reamed so it's a hard sell.

i don't see it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:06 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:04 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:59 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:57 pm if you shoot funnygurl before marmot i will literally shit my pants
I am currently of the view that LC tried to position Marmot as a viable chop on the day that vulgard was getting reamed so it's a hard sell.
i don't see it.
So you've read LC's ISO?

Only his interactions with/about Marmot. This post exists:

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:52 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:36 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:45 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:43 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:42 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:01 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:42 pm @nutella you were one of the out-of-thread demi-gods in Assassin's Creed. What can you tell us about that experience?
I don't remember a ton of detail but we had a discord, we could read the thread and discuss our thoughts, and we had daily choices on smaller or larger ways to influence the game (such as giving a certain player a power buff or something) and then a few phases in we entered the thread for a day and helped town solve the game and then left again
Could you guys do anything with the lynch or anything destructive from there?
I really don't remember sorry lol
You guys gave me a golden apple or something and I forget what that did, but it was something positive, and then I think you could vote on the day you were in the thread?

This was the game where LC self-voted for no reason and that confused me so much that I let him win at F3.
I'mma follow LC on the self-vote.
Marmot skimming and not fully reading is scum-shifting.

but it's nonsensical and I don't see anything actually gaining traction from it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:09 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:06 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:04 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:59 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:57 pm if you shoot funnygurl before marmot i will literally shit my pants
I am currently of the view that LC tried to position Marmot as a viable chop on the day that vulgard was getting reamed so it's a hard sell.
i don't see it.
So you've read LC's ISO?
Only his interactions with/about Marmot. This post exists:

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:52 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:36 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:45 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:43 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:42 pm
Could you guys do anything with the lynch or anything destructive from there?
I really don't remember sorry lol
You guys gave me a golden apple or something and I forget what that did, but it was something positive, and then I think you could vote on the day you were in the thread?

This was the game where LC self-voted for no reason and that confused me so much that I let him win at F3.
I'mma follow LC on the self-vote.
Marmot skimming and not fully reading is scum-shifting.
but it's nonsensical and I don't see anything actually gaining traction from it.
And if LC was trying to stage real distancing he would have staged real distancing. This isn't that.

He was also shot out of nowhere.

im going to throw out my pants

FG sounds like a counter to punk gang.

okay im going to go eat cheese toast one last time before sizzler shuts down forever

the only person who might understand my anticipation just blew himself up how bout that

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:45 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:40 pm Marmot + Trustworthy scummates might be a thing.
Trustworthy jokingly called Marmot scum, too, but on reread, it has that "inside joke" kind of feel that makes me feel that they could be scummates. Also, when Marmot asked all of us if we were ready to get into the thread, Trustworthy was the last to answer (pretty much a seconding of what Turnip said as an answer). Quin didn't answer at all.

I agreed with Turnip about keeping us safe when he asked N1, but yeah I didn't say anything. When he asked again last night it was when I was asleep. I'm Australian so I'm basically working a schedule opposite everybody else.

i don't know what a lost wolf is. should i know what a lost wolf is?

could refer to a wolf in the punk gang. thinking about a scum who can't be in scum btsc because they're in gang btsc.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:55 pm I want to have been blocked so people know I didn’t kill Sloonei

We blocked you last night.

oh fuck if 4 scum that would clear tsp

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:07 pm Things really popped off in punk chat between me+Trustworthy plus Quin.

ok so like

TL believes nutella is lost wolf and that lost wolf will only gain a kill when/if they become the last scum standing

so why does TL insist on RB nutella last night "in case she has a night kill" if he doesn't think shes the last scum standing (hasn't contested the idea of 4 scum, meaning 2 are currently alive)

anyway if you believe that lost wolf is in the punk gang and can't kill until they're sole scum then TSP is mechanically cleared given he was roleblocked night before last.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:14 pm I didn't want mafia to easily see who we were roleblocking assuming they were in our private chat, so I lied when I promised I I wasn't going to change it.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:06 pm Does a lone wolf know who its teammates are?

i don't know. do you?

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:08 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:59 pm anyway if you believe that lost wolf is in the punk gang and can't kill until they're sole scum then TSP is mechanically cleared given he was roleblocked night before last.
Is he? I thought the roleblock wasn't 100% and had a chance of failing?

and that's true, but apparently it's not based on probability. i think funnygurl's role suggests that she's a/the counter to it.

i can just delete it alison if you want to restate what you did.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:09 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:08 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:06 pm Does a lone wolf know who its teammates are?
i don't know. do you?
What do you think the answer to that question is?

thinking about a marmot/nutella team, so i think you might.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:13 pm I'm glad you found an assumption to fit your narrative.

why did you change the target?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:16 pm Quin why did you want to roleblock me yesterday?

Non-punk gang members last night included you, nutella and TSP. I think TSP is lock town. Hyena and TL's reasoning for choosing nutella over you wasn't particularly convincing and my current issue with TL sealed the deal.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:16 pm You already responded to my explanation.

You switched targets to someone I believe to be mechanically cleared. I'm going to need you to elaborate.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:21 pm Can the punk gang roleblock punk gang members? TH's role card didn't specify.

I have no reason to believe we can't.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:25 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:23 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:21 pm Can the punk gang roleblock punk gang members? TH's role card didn't specify.
I have no reason to believe we can't.
Why not vote to roleblock TL then?

1. Because I think punk gang scum is LW and can't kill. I've got a 33% chance roleblocking an OG threader.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:26 pm I guess it doesn't matter if Hyena and TL were voting to block nutella anyway.

This too, but I'll admit it never crossed my mind to try get Hyena to vote TL.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:30 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:21 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:16 pm You already responded to my explanation.
You switched targets to someone I believe to be mechanically cleared. I'm going to need you to elaborate.
There was a chance that mafia knew who we were blocking last night, thus having a different member of their team perform the kill. I opted to switch our roleblock because in that event, it was more likely to succeed.

What do you think about the fact that there was no nightkill?

Protector.

If we're talking about game balance, explain to me how a 5-mason team with a spokesperson keeping the other 4 safe from lynching/targetting from Day 1 can exist without there being at least one mafia and still be balanced.

none of my suspected teammate pairings include TSP or Hyena.

even if one of them apparently just tried to murk me what the heck

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