The Syndicate

Anyone who posted above me is scum

Next person who posts will be my civvie buddy, never recscinding

nova seems like a swell chap. If he says I'm #3 then we have to lynch him though. Trust.

I picked a number. I feel good about it.

So many people in pairs! It would be cute if that's how it ended up lol

8

I picked a number. I feel good about it.

So many people in pairs! It would be cute if that's how it ended up lol

why did most duplicate

i didnt pick 8

does my phone want me to reconsider

sp00ky

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:49 am HARD CLAIM VANILLA TOWN

is it one of those civvie towns or one of those scum towns, asking for a friend

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:48 am I will probably not scumhunt in this game at all. Just a fair warning.

you will be the N1 Kill regardless. It is your destiny

See y'all later! This game will be HUGEEEEE

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:15 am We should obviously keep the doors closed though. There is, after all, still a pandemic going on. It's a trick question. Social distancing matters, even in Trump Tower.

Towny post. Scum love spreading infectious diseases

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:05 am Hi, I'm Nova and I hate vaseline. AMA

Vaseline...is slippery... and you know who slips...scum

Is this a scum claim? Are you claiming to hate scum?!

Do people even say scum on this site???

That's 3. I'm not very creative.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:13 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 11:31 pm Heist hype!

[insert obligatory slank cover here — that I may or may not still post a lot but still needs to be said given how busy I am right now]

Also, it’s clear which door is best.
good

what makes this post good?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:15 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:48 am
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 11:31 pm Heist hype!

[insert obligatory slank cover here — that I may or may not still post a lot but still needs to be said given how busy I am right now]

Also, it’s clear which door is best.
You have a door in your avatar, sort of, so I assume you know what you are talking about.
bad

have you played with dizzy before? just curious

Dad where have you been all these years

Oh for anyone new to me (that's probably most of you) feel free to ask me whatever you want!
I've played on and off on another site (PersonalityCafe) for about a year and a half, 20 or so games. I know Dizzy but that's about it.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:27 am Good morning all and welcome Scirrus!

So those tildes under Powers. Back in the old, old, old days that represented text that we were supposed to try and fill in to discover what was being said (in this case what powers are in the game). Anyone else remember the tilde exercises? I think I'll ask G-Man what the deal is and ask him to respond in the thread.

Thanks for the welcome

The games we play on my homesite tend to be more separated in terms of theme and gameplay so stuff like this is pretty neat

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:40 pm
Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:36 pm Oh for anyone new to me (that's probably most of you) feel free to ask me whatever you want!
I've played on and off on another site (PersonalityCafe) for about a year and a half, 20 or so games. I know Dizzy but that's about it.
What is your general approach to the game? What will you be looking for on Day 1 and later on?

Nothing real specific. I rely pretty heavily on meta reading on my other site lol, but that won't work here.

Prolly just gonna prod around where I think something should be prodded at.

I think the ideal way of approaching the game is building a town core of people you can trust and solving scum through POE

My approach to later days isn't much different except obviously you have flips and interactions you can work with

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:48 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:54 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:06 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:08 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 10:09 pm This game will be the best game in the history of mafia. People keep saying to me, "Escape From Trump Tower" is the best game.
good

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:09 am Unoriginal, think a baddie Sloonei does better there
I mean I’ll take it, but what?
Using the theme to crack a joke and make an entrance, meme-ing using Trump quotes feels unoriginal. It's actually something I'd be pinged about usually, like it's more prevalent for scum to break the ice that way. It's a nice way to sling some shits, and get stuff going.

Not this time though
I feel like trying to form a read on an entrance like that is more scum-breaking-icey than the entrance itself.

do you think town go about breaking the ice a different way? or is it something you don't expect town to do or care?

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:53 pm @novaselinenever and @Sloonei you're pretty funny asking me for reads this early. I haven't seen anything that made me say "here is scum". I am curious about @Dyslexicon's opening post though. Dizzy can't help himself, he automatically scum hunts. Someone has already asked him about it though so I'll wait for the answer.

Is there anything specific you want my reaction to?

What you made you think they were looking for scum reads? It's pretty early on so I'm not sure why you're interpreting it that way

As for Dizzy I know that Dizzy tends to make odd entrances sometimes for reasons...but if he has motive behind it, it will show itself eventually

Or maybe he just doing it for lolz. Dizzy is as Dizzy does

Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:06 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:53 pm @novaselinenever and @Sloonei you're pretty funny asking me for reads this early. I haven't seen anything that made me say "here is scum". I am curious about @Dyslexicon's opening post though. Dizzy can't help himself, he automatically scum hunts. Someone has already asked him about it though so I'll wait for the answer.

Is there anything specific you want my reaction to?
What you made you think they were looking for scum reads? It's pretty early on so I'm not sure why you're interpreting it that way

As for Dizzy I know that Dizzy tends to make odd entrances sometimes for reasons...but if he has motive behind it, it will show itself eventually

Or maybe he just doing it for lolz. Dizzy is as Dizzy does

*scum reads specifically, I should say

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:49 pm
Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:06 am why did most duplicate

i didnt pick 8

does my phone want me to reconsider

sp00ky
You're just lucky I never lynch new people Day 1.

but what if i'm a dirty dirty scummy? Y'all should be very afraid. I'm quite intimidating

I bet [mention]Dyslexicon[/mention] is shaking in his boots rn

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:44 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:37 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:29 pm Is it too soon to have an impression of little old me?

Why does 112’s “explanation of how she hunts scum” merit a town-lean?
I'm scared of you Sloonei is the only reason I still have you as null. You fooled me all the way in that game we just played (the name escapes me but it was the one where Jay was also bad).

As far as 112 goes I thought her answer was detailed enough to be able to judge whether she is doing what she says she does when she scum hunts. It wasn't a vague answer that would be harder to track.
GoC. I had the luxury of being able genuinely scumhunt in that game.

I don’t disagree re: 112
Oh you know, thats true. You could legitimately scum hunt in that game which is probably why your scum play in that game looked like your town play in other games. I didn't consider that. My impression of you here then is town.

This reads kinda weird to me. Like you say you're scared of Sloonei but then you're like ok nvm. I get the reasoning but the switch feels kind off

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:52 pm A civilian Sloonei would love "solid reads at this point." It gives him a chance to figure things out later.

Sloonei is not a civilian. Lynch him now.

Tell me a little bit about Sloonei

Does he have trouble keeping a town mindset as scum?

I agree that not wanting solid reads is not really a pro-town thing to say

But I feel like experienced scum would try to avoid saying things like that, because they would look bad. And he strikes me as an experienced player

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:20 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:52 pm A civilian Sloonei would love "solid reads at this point." It gives him a chance to figure things out later.

Sloonei is not a civilian. Lynch him now.
It was Day 0 at that point. I was responding to a couple of people who expressed a lack of conviction at that point. I do not expect anyone to have things figured out at this stage, and I would not want them to pretend to either.
No sir.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:16 pm I would certainly hope that no one has any solid reads at this point. It'd be a mistake to think so. But it should be possible to have impressions of things. That's more what I'm asking for at this stage.
"I do not expect" is not the same thing as "I would certainly hope."
I would certainly hope that no one thinks they have developed any solid reads at that stage in the game.

Is that necessarily a bad thing? Give me ur thots

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:16 pm I don't find you intimidating. I also don't think you're mafia.

I was just being tongue in cheek, but you don't know me so fair. Lol

I missed the opportunity to say "fair enough". Much sad.

So here are some thoughts n stuff!

epignosis - pushed me and asked for my read on sloonei which I like. Seems very "lets get to the point" which i tend to associate with towniness. Gives out reads early and seems to have done the most to advance the gamestate, which i also associate with town

nova - i liked that he gave reads at the beginning, i think there was something else i liked but i don't remember atm lol

sloonei - null. want to hear what more people say about him. i don't really like that he asks a lot of questions but hasn't given much in the way of reads

juliets - seems pretty agreeable, i have a slight scum vibe, but that just be becuase i don't know her playstyle. a couple things like her assuming ppl should think she has scum reads, announcing she would ask the mod about the mechanics, etc found odd. but i can't decide if they're scummy or just player quirk things

everyone else - idk. post more. make yoselfs known k thx

So here are some thoughts n stuff!

epignosis - pushed me and asked for my read on sloonei which I like. Seems very "lets get to the point" which i tend to associate with towniness. Gives out reads early and seems to have done the most to advance the gamestate, which i also associate with town

nova - i liked that he gave reads at the beginning, i think there was something else i liked but i don't remember atm lol

sloonei - null. want to hear what more people say about him. i don't really like that he asks a lot of questions but hasn't given much in the way of reads

juliets - seems pretty agreeable, i have a slight scum vibe, but that just be becuase i don't know her playstyle. a couple things like her assuming ppl should think she has scum reads, announcing she would ask the mod about the mechanics, etc found odd. but i can't decide if they're scummy or just player quirk things

everyone else - idk. post more. make yoselfs known k thx

and thus I slumber

I will hopefully be less sleep deprived tomorrow, but no promises!

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:01 am You don’t think about me, how crushingly sad

gimme something to think about bb

Not a huge fan of italian accents unfortunately

But this is coming from a guy who's most convincing accent is the one of Stitch from Disney's animated classic

Scirrus wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:19 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:01 am You don’t think about me, how crushingly sad
gimme something to think about bb

Not a huge fan of italian accents unfortunately

But this is coming from a guy who's most convincing accent is the one of Stitch from Disney's animated classic

*fake italian accents. I do not mean any offense to any Italians that may be present and seeing this

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:26 am @Scirrus regarding Sloonei and nova, I thought they were asking me for early reads but they both clarified they were only asking for impressions. I just misinterpreted what they originally said.

Regarding Sloonei, my naked impression was towny but we played a game recently where I read him as town all game (our Game of Champions) when he was really scum so I kept him in my null pile because he can fool me. He reminded me here though that there were two mafia teams in that game so his behavior was to scum hunt just as if he were town in that game and that's probably why I was fooled for so long. That made me feel better about my town impression of him here so I changed him from null to town impression.

Regarding Dizzy, yeah I'm not worried yet. He mostly has just made me laugh because he's just Dizzy. I agree that his reason for saying he wouldn't be scum hunting will reveal itself eventually but that doesn't mean I'm not curious and shouldn't ask for the reveal early.

Also, I think it was you who asked, some of us use scum here, some of us just call mafia "bad" or "baddies", some use mafia, and some may use wolf but that's less common. Use whatever you like. Also, we many times use "civ" for town.

Ok, thank you for explaining. Do you tend to think Sloonei is off or strange when he's mafia in more normal games?

I get what you mean about Dizzy, although personally I don't think he's likely to reveal anything before he's ready bc I get the curiousity. I just wondered if you found something off about it.

(A multiball game as town sounds like hell lol. I think I might have played one ever, but I was recruited so lol)

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:58 am Oops @Scirrus I meant to address this too:

Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:51 pm juliets - seems pretty agreeable, i have a slight scum vibe, but that just be becuase i don't know her playstyle. a couple things like her assuming ppl should think she has scum reads, announcing she would ask the mod about the mechanics, etc found odd. but i can't decide if they're scummy or just player quirk things.
I understand that my agreeableness can seem scummy at the beginning, that's normal when people first play with me. Years ago I even got lynched because I was "too nice". I just ask that you give me a chance. The things you see as scummy right now are just part of my style. I hate Day 1's, they are not my strong suit.

If this is a ruse, it's working because I really do wanna give you a chance! But this reads pretty genuine to me though. Especially if other people can confirm

Don't flip scum on me!

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:53 am I also liked Epi coming in and poking/prodding people. We don't agree on Sloonei right now but that's ok, I just like Epi's behavior. Seems towny.

Does Epi tend to be more reserved or agreeable as scum? Any notable differences?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:33 pm My no kill list currently stands as

Jules/nova/112/Epi/sloonei/scirrus/Dizzy*/MP

*I generally am in favor of killing 3p claims but I like dizzy and I empathize with their plight if their claim is true and I feel like it's pointless to try and kill them before D4 anyways, so I'm just putting them on my no kill list and leaving it at that.

I'll let you know what I think when I finish reading up but my first impression is that you're sorting by postcount for reads lol. The only relatively active ppl in the thread since I was last in the thread are the top 6 in your list. Do you think the scum team is likely to be all inactives?

LOLOLOL Did dizzy claim 3P. We should probably just lynch him them. So sad. But I guess probably read whatever he said first

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:38 am
Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:43 pm I missed the opportunity to say "fair enough". Much sad.
Why did you want to say that?

LOL it's actually a meme on Mafia Universe, where I've been spectating some games for the championship thing. There was some tell that saying "Fair Enough" as a response to something was more likely to be from scum. I don't think it was very accurate lol but it was a meme nonetheless

Do you have any thoughts about the game bro? Don't hold back

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:24 pm @MacDougall and @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, hello. I'm curious why you have voted for 112. I didn't see anything in your posts so far that tells me but maybe I missed something.

I like this prodding

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:30 pm 112 jumping on something early on is on par with what she does as scum according to her other post lol

do you find it scummy that they pointed out your prodding with a prod on you? or just hypocritical?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:33 pm Why those two specifically Scirrus?

With most of them it seemed like a tone think based on their joke, but with MPlus the reason wasn't as clear to me. He just put in a "going to be absent, will post later" thing which usually just seems NAI to me.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:34 pm Oh I'm dumb, they're the only two you know on the player list I assume? lol

half right, I know Dizzy, but I've never played with MPlus

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:45 pm (Also I kinda think they’re scummy but I have to do some homework to see if that holds up but also I don’t want to cause that’s work)

what pinged you originally?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:46 pm Let’s say it’s nine cause ten is fucking ridiculous tbh

Currently I have Jules/nova/112/Epi/sloonei/scirrus on my no kill list, so that’s 7/9 including myself.

Who wants to stand up and be townread?

can you order these. I assume some of these you feel more solid about than others?

and your reasoning for each pls

who not in that town POE do you feel the worst about?

112 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:23 pm Good news, guys: I made a friend irl. gonna visit them later this week. it's good times here.

Sweet, have fun! Real life can be fun sometimes...in certain doses :P

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:25 pm Alright, I'm here to catch up and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of gum.

This made me chuckle

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:34 pm Who is the towniest player on day 1 I need to sheep them. Sorry I overstocked on games.

it's me. You can trust. 100%

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:35 pm
Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:36 pm Oh for anyone new to me (that's probably most of you) feel free to ask me whatever you want!
I've played on and off on another site (PersonalityCafe) for about a year and a half, 20 or so games. I know Dizzy but that's about it.
Oh I played a couple games there! But I don't believe we played together.

Oh sweet! The site recently had an overhaul and it's looks way different now, but it's still got a lot of heart <3

I wonder if there are any PerC traits or tells lol. I do play a bit like Dizzy I think

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:57 pm MP7 reads list thingy

Town for now -- [would never lynch right now]
112
Epignosis
Scirrus

Town lean -- [would prefer not to lynch]
juliets
Nanook

Upper POE -- [would passively consider lynch]
Dyslexicon
Long Con
MacDougall
nova

Lower POE -- [would actively consider lynch]
DrWilgy
Funnygurl
Jack
Sloonei
Soneji

Town reads/leans make sense to me. I like 112s takes so far so that's prob good enough for me to give her a town lean too

Interested to hear about your read on Nova. Do you expect he would have done more at this point as town?

I'm confused a bit about your read on Sloonei, you said you wouldn't want to burn them on the stake just yet but on this read list it seems like you do. Which is it?

Are any of the low posters being low posters this game surprising to you?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:41 pm
I wouldn't say he does, maybe a bit. scum!Sloonei is a slightly hollow shell of town!Sloonei. I say if by a critical point in the game he is still alive and he hasn't Tonberry'd anyone (I'm describing it this way from now on, but basically he asks questions in a pester-y way especially when he gets answers he doesn't like, and then eventually STAB), then he's scum.

Gotcha, thanks

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:42 pm
I'm cool with you being town. Let's work together!

sure thing, cap'n!

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:09 pm I'll give some reads though:

Scirrus - He's from Personality Cafe, so lynch on sight. Scum.

Juliets - Way too nice. Scum.

MP - Too many posts consecutively. Scum.

Epignosis - Always scum.

112 - Doesn't even use the alphabet in her nick. Scum.

Nanook - Mermaids are scum.

Sloonei - People are voting him, so he must be scum.

Nova - Has definitely posted. Scum.

The rest are default scum reads.

Can't really argue with this tbh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:31 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:28 pmWell, okay cool, we can still town together then in a way!
Then I must say I wouldn't give such an easy town read to Scirrus

I see what this is. You didn't rand town so now no one can be town. The shade of it all!

..but fair tho

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:29 am I forgot to say hi to Scirrus (I normally greet players I haven’t played with before) but he’s posted so much it feels awkward to do it now.

Hi Jack! I'm Scirrus. I like pina coladas, long walks on the beach, and killing mafia! Wbu?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:40 am @Scirrus besides them apparently being sort by post count, do you have actual objections to my no kill list? Do you think I have someone in the list that shouldn’t be?

If this is for D1, I'm actually fine with everyone in your list, except Sloonei. Like a lot of people think Sloonei is playing to his scum meta. So that qualifies them as a good lynch candidate at least imo. I wouldn't be super upset about lynching Dizzy either but there's the chance of his claim about not dying until N3 could be telling the truth?

I wouldn't like...hard clear most people in your giant list, because the chance of a misclear isn't that low when we're working with so many actives. But it's a good place to start

Nanook is towny, change my mind

MPlus is also oozing town imo but that might be because he owns half the posts of this thread now

I like Nanook response to me asking him to order his reads... I didn't get the impression he had them ordered when I asked it so basically confirmed my thoughts

Nanook is more carefree as town yes? If not then correct me pls

I also like that he asked me about my thoughts on his POE and strategy after I gave my initial opinion.

it's late so I will take my leave but will post some things

not lynching myself, 112, nanook, epi, juliets, MPlus, probably nova?

would rather not lynch the ppl who posted like 2 things cuz wouldnt tell us much but ya they should post, think that was Soneji & Funnygurl?

Long Con in particular was kinda odd, he asked me a question about "Fair Enough" out of everything in the thread which i found weird, and then a few posts that seemed off topic. Curious about what about that question specifically piqued his interest

Fine with my vote on Sloonei for now, want some pressure to be there

Dizzy idk probably not today I guess tho his claim is pretty meh

Although considering how few wagons/votes there are on people I doubt anyone is feeling much pressure right now

How often do y'all have 3P roles like what Dizzy described? And especially in heists

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