The Syndicate

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:18 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:12 pm @WindwardAway

Can you tldr your reads?

This will make it much easier for me to convince everyone that you thought the things you did as I follow you tomorrow.

I did that

But yeah for thread health and my own health I'll shut up now and either lurk or leave, I'm undecided

I might want to answer questions, though, since I feel like I did a shoddy job formatting my post on svs and it probably looks like lots of empty words

I'm not always good at explaining my reads because I get distracted with other thoughts halfway through

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:18 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:15 pm @MacDougall @TonyStarkPrime

SVS looks scummy and they look like they want to pocket DrWilgy.

What are your thoughts on SVS?

Kate has claimed that SVS is obvious town. Kate is scummier than SVS. I’d flip there first if necessary.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:19 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:18 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:17 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:06 pm I am not being listened to in this game and it pains me.

I’m here to do everything you say

Tell me about SVS and Wilgy please.

I lean town on Wilgy and think SVS is locked as “not my problem”

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:21 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:20 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:18 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:15 pm @MacDougall @TonyStarkPrime

SVS looks scummy and they look like they want to pocket DrWilgy.

What are your thoughts on SVS?

Kate has claimed that SVS is obvious town. Kate is scummier than SVS. I’d flip there first if necessary.

I want to know what you think of SVS, not what Kate thinks of SVS.

I don’t think anything about SVS. That’s not my problem.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:22 pm Uh pretty sure that’s what I meant to say

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:20 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:17 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:16 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:07 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:04 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:03 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:03 pm

My opinion hasn't changed this entire time but my opinion doesn't matter

I haven't read, so please reiterate if you don't mind.

Scum

As much as I appreciate your ability to minimize the amount of reading I need to do, I'd love to hear more.

I promise that no matter what happens, what you tell me right now I will take to heart tomorrow.

I can quote a game where I did a similar thing to my friend Hawk when she was a string scumread of the thread, she told me lots of stuff, I didn't believe her at the time, but after she flipped town, I listened, and I was part of a town blitzkreig, and a game with 6 scum, she was the only miselim, partially because of her.

1. Svs started out by townreading me.

2. I said her posts looked on on D0, nothing pinging me, could be town.

3. On D1 i started getting pocket paranoia and said absolutely nothing about it. I could see there was a consensus townread on svs and I thought it was weird so I wanted to see if she was getting threadspewed town or if wolves were shielding her early, so I kept my read to myself and figured it was mostly paranoia.

4. On D2 i finally mentioned it cause someone else voiced worry about svs, and svs asked why I couldn't just assume that she as town had found me as town, and that all she was doing was giving an early townread because she liked my friendliness or something.

5. The whole thread went pushing Kate and svs as partners and I think both of them had very visceral reactions because it was a lot of pressure, all at once, and tbh I thought Kate's reaction was towny (despite suspecting her and being one of the players pushing on her) and svs's reaction was not, but I got a bit worried I'd upset her since I was being very loud and obnoxious about scumreading her for a pocket attempt. So I backed off for the rest of the day on svs, her entire wagon dissolved, and then a wagon formed on Neon pretty much out of nowhere while Neon was out of the thread. So I pushed on falcon because I wasn't feeling a Kate yeet and I was shielding Neon as hard as I could.

6. Svs came into the thread today and echoed what Mac said and said that my EoD made me the most obvious wolf ever and hasn't really elaborated on why my EoD makes me a wolf. Porscha explained why my EoD makes me town, but svs just kept going "look at windward's eod" and basically that's the entire case? And personally I got the feeling she only dropped the townread on me because she needed someone active at EoD to blame for the falcon mislunch and I was town leading it, and she realized she couldn't pocket me by townreading me so she's pushing me instead because that seems to be something the thread mostly agrees with (which is why I was pushing Porscha for having the opposite take at first today, but she gave a reasonable response to me and I don't feel that svs has).

Anyway all of this is just word salad, tl;dr i don't think svs has any good reasons given for scumreading me and it is super opportunistic.

Are your emotions and commitment to the game linked to my read of you right now?

I always overcommit to games, I'm just annoyed with myself for doing so instead of leaving the thread like a civilized person tbh

I'd happily roll over and die today but I feel like I say that every game and the feeling lasts for like 20 minutes

Idk what your read on me is right now because I am pretty sure svs is the one player in this game who is so blatantly unpartnered with me that you can only ever think one of us will flip wolf, if either.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:23 pmYeah

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:20 pm When is somebody gonna bring up the elephant in the room?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:27 pm Read the SVS iso, have developed a read, sticking to my guns on not sharing it

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:20 pm When is somebody gonna bring up the elephant in the room?

Tell me about the elephant. Is it me? I feel like an elephant. I am stomping across the thread and only townies can dodge my big feet.

Work with me right now (not just TSP, but you all) as I stomp around. I have the highest winrate out of everyone who has played 15+ games on TS. I know I'm not always the best myself, but I have a +ev impact on the game, so work with me now, we have half an hour.

Why is no one suspecting Mac

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm Sean I think SVS is town. I haven’t really been up on the trends of this game but there are a few moments in the ISO that seem earnest to me.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:20 pm When is somebody gonna bring up the elephant in the room?

Tell me about the elephant. Is it me? I feel like an elephant. I am stomping across the thread and only townies can dodge my big feet.

Work with me right now (not just TSP, but you all) as I stomp around. I have the highest winrate out of everyone who has played 15+ games on TS. I know I'm not always the best myself, but I have a +ev impact on the game, so work with me now, we have half an hour.

Why is no one suspecting Mac

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:34 pm I mean I legit do not think svs has done anything towny, she's done genuine emotionally driven things but that's not alignment indicative, and the only reason I am not breathing down her neck is because I don't think she is w/w with Kate at the moment and I don't know whether to trust Kate's accuracy or not

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:35 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:35 pmTSP/SVS/?

Pyxxy
Like seriously idk how many times I need to rehash that case

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:36 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:32 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:20 pm When is somebody gonna bring up the elephant in the room?

Tell me about the elephant. Is it me? I feel like an elephant. I am stomping across the thread and only townies can dodge my big feet.

Work with me right now (not just TSP, but you all) as I stomp around. I have the highest winrate out of everyone who has played 15+ games on TS. I know I'm not always the best myself, but I have a +ev impact on the game, so work with me now, we have half an hour.

Why is no one suspecting Mac

This is the single wolfiest post that has ever existed. I want to love TSP forever more. love love love love love love love

I know y'all won't see it, but it is.

I can only imagine you see this as trying to shift a vote near eod, so if that's what you think then who is he shifting from? Nobody is consensus wagon atm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:38 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:36 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:32 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:20 pm When is somebody gonna bring up the elephant in the room?

Tell me about the elephant. Is it me? I feel like an elephant. I am stomping across the thread and only townies can dodge my big feet.

Work with me right now (not just TSP, but you all) as I stomp around. I have the highest winrate out of everyone who has played 15+ games on TS. I know I'm not always the best myself, but I have a +ev impact on the game, so work with me now, we have half an hour.

Why is no one suspecting Mac

This is the single wolfiest post that has ever existed. I want to love TSP forever more. love love love love love love love

I know y'all won't see it, but it is.

I can only imagine you see this as trying to shift a vote near eod, so if that's what you think then who is he shifting from? Nobody is consensus wagon atm

I don't think he is necessarily trying to shift a vote, I think he is trying to appeal to me. In a wolfy way.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:39 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:37 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:35 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:35 pmTSP/SVS/?

Pyxxy
Like seriously idk how many times I need to rehash that case

Since I've been here no one has said anything about Pyxxy, and honestly I would fully believe Pyxxy, for the shear sake of the fact that I honestly feel powerless against Pyxxy. Something about their posting makes me feel exactly nothing no matter what.

But yeah, I will let my betters find pyxxy and if you say pyxxy and eventually flip or convince me you're town, I'll adjust accordingly.

Lol bruh just. Look at his ISO. You've played with him enough to see what I'm seeing

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:42 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:39 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:38 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:36 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:32 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:29 pm

Tell me about the elephant. Is it me? I feel like an elephant. I am stomping across the thread and only townies can dodge my big feet.

Work with me right now (not just TSP, but you all) as I stomp around. I have the highest winrate out of everyone who has played 15+ games on TS. I know I'm not always the best myself, but I have a +ev impact on the game, so work with me now, we have half an hour.

Why is no one suspecting Mac

This is the single wolfiest post that has ever existed. I want to love TSP forever more. love love love love love love love

I know y'all won't see it, but it is.

I can only imagine you see this as trying to shift a vote near eod, so if that's what you think then who is he shifting from? Nobody is consensus wagon atm

I don't think he is necessarily trying to shift a vote, I think he is trying to appeal to me. In a wolfy way.

I am a lawnmower, throwing extreme uncertainty into the thread, he wants me to focus on a specific target rather than the shotgun blast I've been doing for control.

You very specifically asked him about svs and he responded, no? Didnt he do what you asked? Is that considered "pocketing"? Lol
I dont know what else tsp has done to make you feel like he is specifically appealing to you

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:46 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:45 pm Probably nothing funnier than mac and tsp who are both SR'ing each other both voting the same wagon

Since when was TSP scumreading me?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:40 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:39 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:37 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:35 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:35 pmTSP/SVS/?

Pyxxy
Like seriously idk how many times I need to rehash that case

Since I've been here no one has said anything about Pyxxy, and honestly I would fully believe Pyxxy, for the shear sake of the fact that I honestly feel powerless against Pyxxy. Something about their posting makes me feel exactly nothing no matter what.

But yeah, I will let my betters find pyxxy and if you say pyxxy and eventually flip or convince me you're town, I'll adjust accordingly.

Lol bruh just. Look at his ISO. You've played with him enough to see what I'm seeing

I will look.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:46 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:45 pm Probably nothing funnier than mac and tsp who are both SR'ing each other both voting the same wagon

Since when was TSP scumreading me?

TSP offered you as bait to me, I am currently throwing the thread into a tizzy. Please vote TSP with me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:53 pm I am done arguing about Pyxxy. They aren't towny enough to justify it. I just have worlds in my head that need solving and his slot isn't critical to them. I think Wilgy is every bit as sus as Pyxxy but whatever.

I will be just taking WWA, Porscha and Neon as town for the rest of the game tho. So do with that what you will.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:50 pm Sean for some reason thought this was an attempt to push Mac which is mildly wolfy

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 12:46 am Is Seanzie not just post count cleared? He struggleposts a huge amount as a wolf.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:47 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:33 am you dont need to freak out because every world you were putting forth doesnt make sense.

this is a false appraisal of what you are seeing ..

I think you are outed for trying to make me look like a wolf for obviously irrational reasons no town would think of after WWA dies and because town TSP is getting sus that ppl aren't sussing me so you think doing it will earn you points from him.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:54 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:47 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:33 am you dont need to freak out because every world you were putting forth doesnt make sense.

this is a false appraisal of what you are seeing ..

I think you are outed for trying to make me look like a wolf for obviously irrational reasons no town would think of after WWA dies and because town TSP is getting sus that ppl aren't sussing me so you think doing it will earn you points from him.

Absolutely not. I am not trying to make you look like a wolf and I certainly have no interest in trying to appeal to tsp. I do not think you are wolfing. That is a false appraisal of what you are seeing.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:32 am Level -1 read: Mac and Neon must be wolves because I haven't actually been posting that much and even when I'm posting a lot they outpost me, but here they're not outposting me.

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:44 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:27 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:54 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:47 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:33 am you dont need to freak out because every world you were putting forth doesnt make sense.

this is a false appraisal of what you are seeing ..

I think you are outed for trying to make me look like a wolf for obviously irrational reasons no town would think of after WWA dies and because town TSP is getting sus that ppl aren't sussing me so you think doing it will earn you points from him.

Absolutely not. I am not trying to make you look like a wolf and I certainly have no interest in trying to appeal to tsp. I do not think you are wolfing. That is a false appraisal of what you are seeing.

If you aren't concerned with Mac wolfing, where did the "why isn't Mac dead yet?" come from? What are your thoughts there?

There are a lot of "good nks" left Alice so I'm not all that convinced it means that much.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:54 am

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:47 am Someone who knows tsp, please talk to me about the tsp/seanzie thing.

if there's a wolf it's him

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:58 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:54 am

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:47 am Someone who knows tsp, please talk to me about the tsp/seanzie thing.

if there's a wolf it's him

interesting...

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:00 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:56 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:54 am

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:47 am Someone who knows tsp, please talk to me about the tsp/seanzie thing.

if there's a wolf it's him

Show me you actually suspect me.

I never said that

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:01 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:01 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:00 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:56 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:54 am

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:47 am Someone who knows tsp, please talk to me about the tsp/seanzie thing.

if there's a wolf it's him

Show me you actually suspect me.

I never said that

Then say what you think. Stop beating around the bush.

I said what I think

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 2:38 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:30 am How in the heck do I have the most posts out of everyone alive?

Even more than me? Lol

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:25 am[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:21 pm Oh I remember, I think he faked his curse.

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:32 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:17 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:21 pm Oh I remember, I think he faked his curse.

If he was going to do that so lackadaisically, why would he bother in the first place?

Idk, would he? I don't know him at all.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:51 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 12:46 am Is Seanzie not just post count cleared? He struggleposts a huge amount as a wolf.

I haven't posted in like 2 days. This isn't real.

Huh? I literally am just looking at your post count. You say it's not real and then follow up with essentially a confirmation of my point?

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:53 pm This site isn't telling me when there's new posts anymore.

Big sad.

Anyways Vote: Kate

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:02 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:42 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:32 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:17 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:21 pm Oh I remember, I think he faked his curse.

If he was going to do that so lackadaisically, why would he bother in the first place?

Idk, would he? I don't know him at all.

I don't think my question needs to have specific knowledge about the person. If someone's going to commit to faking a gambit, do you think they do it like TSP does?

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

Did you read my post immediately following? I have a headache so my quick thinking/wit isn't as quick as you're used to. Lol.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:13 pm Lmfao this game is trash

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:32 pm Good luck town

Legacy is like kill Kate cause they don't have actual reasons to push anyone

Maybe Dennis too

I think SVS is just getting snowed

I don't actually have a town core cause everyone is making me feel like they are wolfing at various points so... game state sucks and I can't play without a town core

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:37 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:51 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 12:46 am Is Seanzie not just post count cleared? He struggleposts a huge amount as a wolf.

I haven't posted in like 2 days. This isn't real.

Huh? I literally am just looking at your post count. You say it's not real and then follow up with essentially a confirmation of my point?

Me being one of the top poster says more about people like you and Neon than it does about me.

This is a non sequitor that doesn't address my point whatsoever.

I suggest you're post count cleared.

You say you haven't been here for 2 days and that what I'm saying isn't real. You bring high count despite not being here for 2 days if anything supports the argument. So why are you thinking my argument isn't real?

Except I ask for clarification and now you pivot from saying my point isn't real to saying something else.

It feels like you're just trying to shift your perspective to qualify a reason to start pushing me. And Neon being thrown in sounds like prepatory distancing from Neon.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:39 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:03 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:56 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:22 pm @MacDougall please come talk to me.

Yes?

Who is bad here?

I'm not super sure who is but I think Porscha, TSP, yourself and SVS isn't.

I'd say like Dennis is maybe a bit townier than the other 3. Then those 3 are all virtually equal in my mind right now.