colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:08 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:57 pm
@Sloonei
@colonialbob
What do you think of Epi's vote for LC?
I don't love it. He pretty clearly misinterpreted the "3 civs" thing, per your previous statement. Whether that's on purpose or just as a defense,
who knows.
That said, I think LC's take against Epi was pretty weak. It's Day 1, saying you won't vote for somebody today is a viable way of narrowing the lynch pool as a way of getting into the game. He did pick two new (to the Syndicate) players,
so maybe he's a scum hoping a new player latches on to it? Idk, seems weak.
All that said though I'm not interested in narrowing the focus just to the two of them just yet. I actually like Sloonei's line of questioning - let's hear actual thoughts Kyle.
*votes kyle*
To borrow someone else's words:
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:44 am
Posts that appear to say something while not actually saying anything
Jack asks cbob and I to weigh in on Epi vs. LC, part 9000 and bob just waffles around, qualifying both his points with some variation of a shrug. Then he piggybacked on my questioning of kyle, which is, like, an easy thing to do.
Then later:
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:24 pm
Speed with the sudden entrance. I like it.
Voting LC for now.
The opportunity arose to vote for LC and bob seized it. Because
"science".
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:29 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:25 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:05 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:34 pm
As for the cbob and mesk no-vote posts... they're empty filler. Neither of them are in any way real or substantial gameplay. There was nothing about mesk's "dirt" comment that should lead to any alignment decisions. IF you really feel the need to read into it, it indicates a general ignorance or the game structure, which doesn't show as good or bad. And I don't feel like it was even
that.
Does anyone disagree with this?
Yeah. There's at least as much content there as the Daisy guilt thing. Not gonna argue about my joke though.
(Catching up intermittently, posting as stuff catches my eye, so ignore if I'm outdated)
@Long Con care to address this point since you responded to the other quote of this post?
I don't understand what you are saying, can you phrase it differently please? I was saying that Epi's alignment conclusions about mesk, based on the "dirt" post, are not legit because the logic isn't there... you are comparing it to the Daisy guilt thing, but I can't figure out what you mean by your wording.
You said Epi's read of mesk was not legit because there wasn't anything in that post to get a read off of but didn't say something similar about the Spacedaisy votes because she said sorry she checked in and that apparently meant she felt guilty for being mafia. So I would like you to address that discrepancy.
PS boarded, will be back before EoD to at least skim and potentially change my vote.
This is closer to a real justification, but it feels like a reach. He's faulting LC for not pursuing an unrelated topic in the same manner he was pursuing Epi. The answer is tunnel vision. If this is the basis for cbob's vote, I'm not buying it. He would repeatedly cite LC's lack of an answer to this question as a reason for suspicion. I'm still not in love with this.
colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:05 am
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:28 am
What do people think about Sloonei? GTH's, cases, whatever.
Lean town. From what little exposure I have seems like town Sloonei, I like the questions and prodding people. Not enough reads or firm statements that I recall to make me really solidify the town read though.
He started day 2 with a "town lean" on me. Let's see how I feel from grace.
colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:00 pm
Sorry, what with family time I don't really have the ability to go through and make good cases or long posts. Butt I'm following as best I can.
Reads (mostly gut):
Daisy
Speedchuck
Epi
Sloonei
Quin
JJJ
nutella
DDL
Eloh
Kyle
Mesk
Long Con
Jack
Sig
No reads on Dom, Wilgy, INH, sprit
Still green on a rainbow a short while later. This is an intriguing package of reads that deserves heavier scrutiny than I'm going to give it here. I'm particularly interested in his Jack and Elohcin reads, but there's a whole lot more going on than just that.
colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:21 pm
I don't like this sequence.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:16 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:34 pm
Sloonei
I don't feel you are genuine, and I think your go at Eloh was a try to score an easy lynch that people would find agreeable even if the result was no good.
Nope. I wanted you to share your thoughts on her, then I moved off.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:43 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:30 pm
I don't want to be on Eloh come day end. It could go on Sloonei.
I advise against this.
I could go back to Eloh.
Voting Eloh because he wants Epi's thoughts, that's all? But then he's willing to vote there immediately after taking his vote off? Smells off.
Here's my fall from grace! That's the extent of it, from what I can tell. I may be biased, but this seems a bit weak for the firm 180 bob pulled on me. We've established that I'm loose with my votes, have we not? Why is it far-fetched for me to move it off and on Eloh here? That's, like, what I do? And furthermore, why is this even a suspicious thing? What's the scum mindset behind me making these two posts about Elohcin back-to-back like that? This might be the most opportunistic vote in the game. Eloh and Epi were both on me at this time. Bob's vote #3, a good placement to lock me in as a lynch candidate without sending me straight to the gallows. This vote stinks. He followed it up with
this, which I've already questioned him on because idgi. What do those words mean?
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:30 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:17 am
Elohcin's rainbow and dialogue with Sloonei
Sloonei's questions here were reasonable -- Elohcin voiced in vague terms that the high posters seem civ and that she'd be willing to vote for a low poster. The contents of the rainbow list don't align with that much. A change of heart is fine, but I don't know if that's even what happened in Eloh's head -- the progression is unclear. The names in the rainbow almost appear randomized. I'm surprised to see myself rated well given my own slow start, and I have no idea why Mesk is so high. I don't know why the low posters are split between yellow and orange. I don't know why the high posters Sloonei and Quin are orange. When given an opportunity to expand on these things, she just said
"relax" and restated the general purpose of a rainbow list.
@Elohcin, you need to talk more about what's going on there.
So then if he was right on all that why did he drop the vote when Epi said the read/case was bad? What made him swap his vote?
This was where I started to doubt Bob in real time. This is a wonky line of questioning. "Well if Sloonei's right about Eloh, why isn't he voting for her?", as if Town Sloonei should be certain that his read on Elohcin was correct, and it is suspicious that Sloonbeard would not follow through on such a convincing self-made read. Bogus line of inquiry. He's voting for me because I'm considering voting for Elohcin, then turning around to criticize me for not voting Elohcin. But that contradiction isn't deterring him as we creep toward the deadline:
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:38 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:34 am
Moreover I think the low-poster lynch strategy is ideal under these conditions.
Explain please. I'm also curious why you're defending somebody you didn't seem to be fully onboard with as town.
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:39 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:35 am
Switching to Sprityo. At time of posting, I've read like none of his content (cause he had none when I left) so that sounds better than lynching Sloonei.
Whyyyyyyyyyyyy
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:49 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:44 am
Anyone want to point out that if self-preservation was my goal right now I'd just switch my vote to jack and stop trying to pull people onto my preferred target? No? okay.
Vizzini.jpg
There's no real effortful dialogue here. Just throwing more dirt on me. Also, as an aside:
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:59 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:57 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:39 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:35 am
Switching to Sprityo. At time of posting, I've read like none of his content (cause he had none when I left) so that sounds better than lynching Sloonei.
Whyyyyyyyyyyyy
I firmly believe Sloonei is good. He
feels good. He's been thinking and he's working.
Tell me why you think he's bad.
ISO me I laid out reasons.
I didn't like his Epi behavior day 1, didn't like his Eloh behavior today. My vote stays.
I don't remember seeing any mention of this.
Vote colonialbob.
