The Syndicate

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:52 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:49 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:46 am Nutella can you give me the tl;dr of why Nanook is at the bottom of your list, and why you aren't voting him?

i have been scumreading him since p much the very beginning

just like

idk how to explain

it's a feeling

i made an actual case on him d1 tbh about how he didnt feel natural/comfortable in thread and wasnt giving townreads early in his usual way and stuff

and my top townreads agree on the sus

i'm not voting him now partially bc of some stuff he said in the exchange where i tilted him and was also at least a little influenced by your wifomy nk convo with him lol. idk it's meh he's still >rand scum in my view

if you check my revised list i swapped him with dizzy and currently feel most confident on dizzy and thus am voting accordingly

K cool...so what's with Dizzzzzaaaaay?

Not horny enough? Too horny? Never been totally sure how the horny read there works...

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:57 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:55 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:50 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:46 am I’ve never seen syn not get POE’d but he’s a very good town player

see like

i believe this but if he's town why do none of his takes make any sense

Idk what to tell you ive seen this read made a lot wrt syn when he’s town

alright

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:00 am Syn how mad would you be if we towncored you

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:09 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:06 am i think you should all have a gander at pages 4 and 5 of marmot's ISO and see his interactions with dya/toward dya

was quick to throw sus at dya, got informed of dya's history, then switched to a "oh we really are with the best of the best, congrats!" retort before dropping dya entirely for the rest of the day and tossing a few cursory takes re: cat vs falcon to suss falcon

and also he does these takes very formally, which is funny when he refuses to vote thunal for their formal approach

who else have you ISOed?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:39 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:50 pm ONE death in a game this size?

I look forward to this game concluding some time in the summer of 2022.

U optimist

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:40 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:14 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:09 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:06 am i think you should all have a gander at pages 4 and 5 of marmot's ISO and see his interactions with dya/toward dya

was quick to throw sus at dya, got informed of dya's history, then switched to a "oh we really are with the best of the best, congrats!" retort before dropping dya entirely for the rest of the day and tossing a few cursory takes re: cat vs falcon to suss falcon

and also he does these takes very formally, which is funny when he refuses to vote thunal for their formal approach

who else have you ISOed?

smh i ISO one person and suddenly it's "who else?"

you cannot rush genius

(also I just picked a random gut read from D1 and compared to the flips)

Can I encourage you to make a read of another ISO?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:32 pm And Marmot, without quoting your question above, with my spoiler I was just adding to my Iso some posts from the part of the thread I read today.
I want an answer from Syn and I turned my attention to to Kyle

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:06 pm

imagine being town and being part of this disaster

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:10 pm Why would you even show a lick of concern about a few votes when there's more than 24 hours left in the day? No one who has early votes ever keeps them, in any game ever.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:10 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:07 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:06 pm

imagine being town and being part of this disaster

it's good for you to have an imagination to replace the truth of reality

this does not mean what you think it means

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:11 pm okay not that sure syn is town

this is just so weird

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:12 pm Was the answer from tutuu enough for you, the one I quoted ?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:14 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:10 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:10 pm Why would you even show a lick of concern about a few votes when there's more than 24 hours left in the day? No one who has early votes ever keeps them, in any game ever.

caught and panicking

she's already breadcrumbing the AtE

wait until the crescendo

hey if Tutuu flips town

can I murder this slot?

cuz that "caught and panicking" is bullshit; you can paint any high-activity player as panicking easily if you want to

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:15 pm aha mac made the case. mac is clearly town because mac is always town, therefore tutuu must be a wolf because mac is also always right

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:18 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:17 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:15 pm aha mac made the case. mac is clearly town because mac is always town, therefore tutuu must be a wolf because mac is also always right

are you really gonna try and scum-shade mac in this game after d1

oh my god syn you're actually not town arent you?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:20 pm i think alot of alignments can be spewed right now

@tedxtr do u still townread me?

@Marmot whats ur read on me?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:20 pm and give your Syn reads too please

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:24 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:17 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:15 pm aha mac made the case. mac is clearly town because mac is always town, therefore tutuu must be a wolf because mac is also always right

are you really gonna try and scum-shade mac in this game after d1

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:24 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:17 pm high activity isn't the panic bruh

Lovely. So what is?

The one post out of the 500 she makes or something? Or is it a consistency across 100 posts?

Well, actually, forget "panicking" part.

Mac and LC here saw me panic to their godamm faces as town in my last game and I knew I had to do something to show to them that I was town; I managed to live to N3 before being night-killed

Actually its not so much that its "panicking" whether its actually happening or not that's scummy

its the fact that you're even using it (a percieved panic) as a reason in addition to "being caught" in the first place to scum-read

that's why it felt so bad to me

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:28 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:25 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:20 pm @tedxtr do u still townread me?

i think so, even though you made the wrong move by pushing me and not sure i'm ready to forgive you yet

i'm gonna ask mac to push LC with me when he comes back

games being centered around mac's reads clearly isnt working out and they should stop be

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:29 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:27 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:24 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:17 pm high activity isn't the panic bruh

Lovely. So what is?

The one post out of the 500 she makes or something? Or is it a consistency across 100 posts?

Well, actually, forget "panicking" part.

Mac and LC here saw me panic to their godamm faces as town in my last game and I knew I had to do something to show to them that I was town; I managed to live to N3 before being night-killed

Actually its not so much that its "panicking" whether its actually happening or not that's scummy

its the fact that you're even using it (a percieved panic) as a reason in addition to "being caught" in the first place to scum-read

that's why it felt so bad to me

I mean, you just need to read her responses to Mac, and everyone else during Mac's casing. She immediately resorts to insulting him and pretending as though she's the victim of some maligning that she's helpless against. She demands a case, gets provided it, and then says she can't work under these conditions, and then uses that to dismiss the case, lol. C'mon.

I've seen town respond to Mac exactly that way.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:30 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:27 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:24 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:17 pm high activity isn't the panic bruh

Lovely. So what is?

The one post out of the 500 she makes or something? Or is it a consistency across 100 posts?

Well, actually, forget "panicking" part.

Mac and LC here saw me panic to their godamm faces as town in my last game and I knew I had to do something to show to them that I was town; I managed to live to N3 before being night-killed

Actually its not so much that its "panicking" whether its actually happening or not that's scummy

its the fact that you're even using it (a percieved panic) as a reason in addition to "being caught" in the first place to scum-read

that's why it felt so bad to me

I mean, you just need to read her responses to Mac, and everyone else during Mac's casing. She immediately resorts to insulting him and pretending as though she's the victim of some maligning that she's helpless against. She demands a case, gets provided it, and then says she can't work under these conditions, and then uses that to dismiss the case, lol. C'mon.

i didnt insult mac i insulted his play these are very different things

stop saying that i have insulted people

i will also urge you, if you're town, to try a bit harder to read stuff correctly

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:31 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:30 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:28 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:25 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:20 pm @tedxtr do u still townread me?

i think so, even though you made the wrong move by pushing me and not sure i'm ready to forgive you yet

i'm gonna ask mac to push LC with me when he comes back

games being centered around mac's reads clearly isnt working out and they should stop be

...

rofl rofl rofl rofl

town!syn would never respond to me in a million years

you are mafia and you are going to die

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:34 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:30 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:29 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:27 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:24 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:17 pm high activity isn't the panic bruh

Lovely. So what is?

The one post out of the 500 she makes or something? Or is it a consistency across 100 posts?

Well, actually, forget "panicking" part.

Mac and LC here saw me panic to their godamm faces as town in my last game and I knew I had to do something to show to them that I was town; I managed to live to N3 before being night-killed

Actually its not so much that its "panicking" whether its actually happening or not that's scummy

its the fact that you're even using it (a percieved panic) as a reason in addition to "being caught" in the first place to scum-read

that's why it felt so bad to me

I mean, you just need to read her responses to Mac, and everyone else during Mac's casing. She immediately resorts to insulting him and pretending as though she's the victim of some maligning that she's helpless against. She demands a case, gets provided it, and then says she can't work under these conditions, and then uses that to dismiss the case, lol. C'mon.

I've seen town respond to Mac exactly that way.

I don't care about how town responds to Mac. I care about how wolves react.

Your description of how Tutuu reacted is consistent with how I have seen town react before. So your conclusion that this reaction means that Tutuu is a wolf seems...sketchy.

The question isn't how Tutuu is reacting, the question is *was Mac's case good*? Can you answer that one for me?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:34 pm im putting syn on block

he is very likely to be mafia and i urge people to try to see that

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:48 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:41 pm I accused tutuu of wolfing before Mac's case

you would know this

if you would read the thread

Accused isn't pushed.

Right now you are pushing, hard...but your push is all about her reacting to Mac. I already said that IMO this is a bad push, because panicking under a Mac attack is NAI. I'm not the only one to point that out.

Basically I invited you to recenter your push and suggested two things you could center it on...Mac's case, or your initial sus/accusation. Instead, you just snark. If Tutuu is town and goes over you wind up holding a very big bag of snakes and could go over behind her, which if you are town is a big problem.

So, please provide better grounds for such a hard push.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:52 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:45 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:43 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:37 pm made said they thought they were scumread by thread consensus. this does not appear to correspond to reality

Not sure I agree with you. The number of people who have voted for Made at some point and then wandered off onto what I could uncharitably call "fad wagons" without any real clear "okay not Made" statement is pretty large. I'm not gonna push on them, but I would not be surprised if at EoD a lot of those people just remember they never had a real good reason when they got off the Made wagon and get back on. I can't bet because I'm in the thread and can theoretically make things happen, but if I were in spec chat I'd be handicapping Made as most likely chop of the day.

i agree with your assessment I'm asking why this is

My theory...when Mac laid the case on Cat it was really on Cat+Made. Cat flipping red for the most part just nailed Made, and if town had a night one vig we probably wouldn't have this problem. But day two just launched with chopping Made as the very likely outcome.

I myself would have been more or less fine with piling on Made and just bailing for 48 hours, but we know that's not realistic, towns gonna town. So cases come, and cases go, and the wagons mount up okay, but there's no real enthusiasm behind them because even people who don't want to say it are kinda just waiting to chop Made at EoD.

I'm mostly watching the wagons come and go looking for people who are consistently hard pushing any fad of the moment no matter how silly it should be for them, because if Made does flip red those are the people to look at next.

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:09 pm @Syn read on Nanook?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:11 pm syn is lock town, spicy opinion tutuu also town? I also wrote down "thrall town" and i have no idea who that was but they've been autocorrecte dout of a town read

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:37 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:36 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:09 pm @Syn read on Nanook?

sweet innocent baby always to be protected from evil dangerous wolf made

Meet you half way on tim?

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:51 am Sorry Wilgy

How did everyone go from being super townie to super scummy in a single day?

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:28 pm

Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:24 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:23 pm I would chop martin and then master radish before considering made or nanook or dizzy

why not Mr.Nanook?

His name is in there

If ur asking "why not nanook first" - i dont think it will matter if i explain it, chances are my read will get ignored, both in terms of ppl considering my reads since i dont have mac's clout, and also in terms of me coming off as towny as evidenced by my solving effort getting gnored earlier when i was a wagon. So im being pragmatic here sorry friend

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:31 pm Made's coolness is not in question.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:32 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:27 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:28 pm

Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:24 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:23 pm I would chop martin and then master radish before considering made or nanook or dizzy

why not Mr.Nanook?

His name is in there

If ur asking "why not nanook first" - i dont think it will matter if i explain it, chances are my read will get ignored, both in terms of ppl considering my reads since i dont have mac's clout, and also in terms of me coming off as towny as evidenced by my solving effort getting gnored earlier when i was a wagon. So im being pragmatic here sorry friend

how is it pragmatic to withhold information

Hi Syn! Why do people think you're wolfy?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:35 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:33 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:32 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:27 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:28 pm

Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:24 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:23 pm I would chop martin and then master radish before considering made or nanook or dizzy

why not Mr.Nanook?

His name is in there

If ur asking "why not nanook first" - i dont think it will matter if i explain it, chances are my read will get ignored, both in terms of ppl considering my reads since i dont have mac's clout, and also in terms of me coming off as towny as evidenced by my solving effort getting gnored earlier when i was a wagon. So im being pragmatic here sorry friend

how is it pragmatic to withhold information

Hi Syn! Why do people think you're wolfy?

they don't unfortunately

would you feel better if I did? I mean I don't, but if you'd like me to I can work something up to get there.