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OK. I love it <3 I love Nutella, too. We've been playing together on and off since she was just a pup, and I had no grey in my hair.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:14 pm Don’t love the svs vote on nutella for the gamestate
Well I think that you're mistaken about that me = woof, but we'll see how that works out for youTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:19 pmNo the issue is I kinda think you’re a wolf
I agree that that’s why she’s suspicious
Yeah, but he was pretty pro Nutella both before and after the "ZOMG Kate got a green check on Nutella" post. I'm not sure enough to vote on him, but I want to see his response to my post @ him.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:24 pmThat yes, i agree, but my point is then if Dennis speculates on town PRs as a wolf, that also helps town and not just wolves when he could be quiet. So I think it's like a negligent town mistake where he got overexcited that he found 2 villagers that he doesn't have to solve anymore.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:09 pmThats not true.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:06 pmLike if Dennis is a wolf confirming Kate as a town cop, and Kate dies, it just gives a confirmed green on nutella which is like... Super counterproductive if Kate and nutella are town and Dennis is a wolf. It doesn't help wolves at all.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:06 pmQuestion
Why would a wolf out the cop in the thread if they can just keep it in scumchat and kill the cop quietly
Kate dying and flipping cop has the same net result either way outed or not outed. The point is that a town picking up a soft shouldn't out it in case the wolves didn't notice it.
Less a case of why its wolfy and more a case of its not towny.
It's less a case
I wolfed with him in GOC. I am not seeing that Sean here, and in my first game with him, he (incorrectly) suspected me, and we looked eye to eye. He was wrong and he knew it and was flexible. I *think* I see that flexible person here, but i am not the Seanzie expert.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:26 pmHave you caught up on everything yet? Do you have an opinion on Seanzie?S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:15 pmI don't think Neon is woof either. I agree with some of her town; you and Porscha, and Kate. The rest I dunno.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:11 pmCrap, I don't scumread you actually
Ngl I'm gonna drop whatever I was doing and take both you and Seanzie off my immediate PoE. I have other people I want out more.
If Seanzie still wants to TD me that's fine, I'm at fault for asking for it. But I saw something from him that made me change my mind while catching up.
[VOTE: Mac] aubergine
Mac should die first.
yeah it wasn't, I was being polite. I've been saying I thought you were town since day 0; why didn't you think those were pocket attempts?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:34 pmNeon, do you think svs's reply to me there was a pocket attempt on either of us? Cause it read like one to me.Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:23 pmFun fact. I suck at this game. But I am actually pretty good at finding towns... well at least when I town core them.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:15 pmI don't think Neon is woof either. I agree with some of her town; you and Porscha, and Kate. The rest I dunno.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:11 pmCrap, I don't scumread you actually
Ngl I'm gonna drop whatever I was doing and take both you and Seanzie off my immediate PoE. I have other people I want out more.
If Seanzie still wants to TD me that's fine, I'm at fault for asking for it. But I saw something from him that made me change my mind while catching up.
[VOTE: Mac] aubergine
Mac should die first.
Are you fucking for real? Dennis is the one who made that post!nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:40 pmYeah they could easily be partners. Especially since SVS is going after Dennis and not Kate for the cop snafu when that makes zero sense and the concern that Kate had TMI makes all the sense.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:39 pmwhen I lied about Kate sheeping my svs read and they both got all ree about it that was fun u should read back on that
Dead straight face, she’s town. It’s just kinda icky that as soon as she stopped sheeping you, we’re the problem. I have to go watch succession right now, but yeah, I’ll go down kicking and screaming tomorrow cause I’m town.
100%nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:15 pmThere's no way both of you are town. 0%.
Because bad Kate doesn’t put herself out like this. I’ll make any bet you want that I’m right.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:20 pmI don't follow how you could have a lock town read on Kate here?S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:19 pm100%nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:15 pmThere's no way both of you are town. 0%.
I look forward to your apology post game after you yeet meMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:20 pm Would they really just both mald and rage vote Nutella at the same time?
Nutella is now IC ... I'm sure one of them is mafia. But both? Really?
You think Kate is outed... I think SVS is the scummier one lol.
Histrionic? Lol.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:39 pm I dunno I guess after having read back the recent little dealio I'd have to assume that it's at least somewhat plausible that svs and Kate both had a bit of a histrionic reaction to Nutella, myself and windward all transfixing on them somewhat simultaneously. I'm gonna set aside that their reaction feels panicked as alignment indicative and focus on other things.
At the time you made this post, I was in bed. I get up at 5 AM.
So yesterday, you were sure I was pocketing you. NOW you're talking about what happens if I flip civ.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 4:41 am Pyxxy and svs votes on nutella both suck
Like, first off, nutella is town
Second, the timing of both votes was terrible
But idk if they're partnered because pushing on nutella when the thread has moved away from flipping nutella today seems kinda counterproductive so I'm thinking only one of them is a wolf for it
Would still yeet svs first and then pyxxy if svs flips town
Idk why I'm saying anything at all since yesterday I didn't want to share reads but today I'm just throwing things everywhere
This really isn't answering the question I asked. Do you still think I was pocketing you? I read over your interactions with me, and I didn't say anything to or about you that I (or anyone else) wouldn't say about someone they were townreading while trying to form a personal towncore. Out of everything that was said last night, that was the thing that bowled me over the most. That saying that I thought you were town was pocketing you. Becasue that was your original reason for suspecting me, right?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:37 amSorry you don't like the pressure on you, this game isn't supposed to be toxicS~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:13 amAt the time you made this post, I was in bed. I get up at 5 AM.
At this point this thread is toxic for me, and my opinions are all OMGUSed up. I can't differentiate my own opinions from my feelings on how suspicion was brought to bear on me last night, so I'm doing town a favor by not being here, tbh. I might make another vote that sucks, and we can't have that.
I couldn't care less about the votes on me, but I really dislike the votes on you. @pyxxy , @DrWilgy , you should really reconsider.
So yesterday, you were sure I was pocketing you. NOW you're talking about what happens if I flip civ.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 4:41 am Pyxxy and svs votes on nutella both suck
Like, first off, nutella is town
Second, the timing of both votes was terrible
But idk if they're partnered because pushing on nutella when the thread has moved away from flipping nutella today seems kinda counterproductive so I'm thinking only one of them is a wolf for it
Would still yeet svs first and then pyxxy if svs flips town
Idk why I'm saying anything at all since yesterday I didn't want to share reads but today I'm just throwing things everywhere
So which is it? You still think I was pocketing you, or you think I was trying to be friendly with someone who seemed astute, friendly and involved to me?
Have a great day everyone!
I don't see what's wrong with saying I'm 95% sure you're scum??? If I were 100% sure I would have to be a wolf who either has TMI and is bussing you, or is agenda pushing. I don't think being extremely confident is required of town but maybe we disagree on play styles.
Yeah, that covick sure is a bitch.
Today, 4:55 PM
In between these two he called one of her posts "trash", but then he replied to this:
So not sure what's going on with him, but after that lying and letting me think he was cursed:MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 4:24 amyeah but like I'm waiting for neon to explode in a ball of townfire and need it before I'm gonna give them a full clearWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 4:06 amI thought her earlier posts were wolfy and her posts today were better than yesterday's
As for my other two voters, Windward felt opportunistic. They came up with a sudden suspicion never before mentioned, although they discussed other suspicions previously, not sure why they would sit on this one?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:27 am You're right about it being a blessing. I've never been more thrilled.
He's only posting "Yes", not "No".WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:40 pmI have a theory as to why he's only answering with yes/no but I also have an alternate theory which I like a lot less, lolKate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:39 pmI wish wilgy would talk bc whatever he's doing isn't helping town, which means he's either useless in this state or bad.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:37 pm As to why I'm voting falcon:
I'm opposed to voting neon
I'm mostly opposed to voting Kate at least today
Pyxxy is just not a wagon so whatever
I townread Seanzie and he's on falcon
Idk how to read Wilgy but I think(?) he might be onto something and I'm willing to entertain the idea that he's town
Let's see how Falcon flips.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:55 pm Maybe I should ask, do you think the people moving their votes away from Neon or responding to my call to wagon falcon instead are scum?
This. Everyone should reread the end of the last day.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:34 pmI am voting you and I am not unvoting you.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:23 pm Actually I want to know what @MacDougall has to say, too, since he also had falcon as scum and I'm pretty sure he tried to convince me of it
You and I had a conversation yesterday about how I should just go ahead and vote for you, and how I didn’t think that was workable so close to EOD.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:00 pmShe's not first in my list of priority yeets, but her voting me right after Mac did has not gone under my radar. I still think Mac is town, I'm increasingly confident on that read, and it makes svs look much worse.Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:57 pmDon't break my heart by unloving svs again. Ok. Pweeeze. I'm trying really hard to maintain my hopeless devotion to you.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:51 pm I would like to remind everyone that not only did the wagon form on Neon when she was out of the thread, but the wagon on svs completely vanished when she was also out of the thread.
Coincidence?
Well, you certainly can make a nothing into a something, that seems to be your forte. It's an excellent Mafia skill to have. As is what you've been doing today, sowing the BS far and wide. I hope to be on your bad team someday, so i can learn from you.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:53 pmIt does make a difference because you posted after Mac and made it clear that you posted after Mac. It doesn't mean it's always from a wolf but you can't be cleared off it and I think Mac can.S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:37 amYou and I had a conversation yesterday about how I should just go ahead and vote for you, and how I didn’t think that was workable so close to EOD.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:00 pmShe's not first in my list of priority yeets, but her voting me right after Mac did has not gone under my radar. I still think Mac is town, I'm increasingly confident on that read, and it makes svs look much worse.Kate wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:57 pmDon't break my heart by unloving svs again. Ok. Pweeeze. I'm trying really hard to maintain my hopeless devotion to you.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:51 pm I would like to remind everyone that not only did the wagon form on Neon when she was out of the thread, but the wagon on svs completely vanished when she was also out of the thread.
Coincidence?
So you can stop pretending that it somehow makes a difference that I voted second. I voted when I got to the thread.
When Kate tries to pocket me, she's very tentative not bold. She upped her wolf game overall in Scooby Doo, but not like this. Initially, I can fool her longer than she can fool me, but not much longer. She reads my meta better than I read hers, she can pick out stylistic differences I miss (and I mean this for everyone, not just me, she notices things like grammar and smiley usage. It's scary).MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:35 am Kate had SVS dead to absolute rights the last game they both played. Remember? Literally saw through her like she was a complete noob. It was godly.
Kate will not be wrong on SVS if she is town. If SVS is mafia Kate is not town Kate is mafia.
Kate MAYBE pocketing SVS. But I would expect SVS to have at least humoured the thought given the situation we find ourselves in.
They are either wolves or they are town with absolutely disgustingly good meta reads on each other. If they are t/w I will be ... mildly annoyed at the town between them lol.
But seriously I am very confident it's not t/t.
The more I talk the more I am convincing myself especially that Nutella only dies over 1 of them if they are both mafia tbh. We are on day 3 and have had SVS and Kate mason town locking each other. Kate who BREAKS wolf teams with her soul reads. Zero wolf flips and both alive?
Who was she voting for?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:12 amNeon why are you voting the counterwagon to someone you called a wolf PR?Neon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:46 amHaha no you're definitely a wolf PRWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:35 am Waiting for the "haha no you're definitely a wolf PR" rebuttal like I usually get
If I'm lucky it'll actually stir up something spicy
As above, yes.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:37 am Why is Kate voting Pyxxy over Dennis?
@S~V~S are you absolutely sure Kate is town?
Why did this unhappen? From subsequent posts, you seem to still think Windward is bad, or at least thats the tone your're taking with her.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:34 pmI am voting you and I am not unvoting you.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:23 pm Actually I want to know what @MacDougall has to say, too, since he also had falcon as scum and I'm pretty sure he tried to convince me of it
Since Windward has accused me and someone else I noticed but don't recall who os sheeping them, so I wasn't sure what interesting meant in this context.
Goes to this:WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:00 pmActually maybe I retract the "especially if Seanzie flips town" partWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:46 pmI would look at Neon regardless of Seanzie's flip tbh but especially if Seanzie flips townnutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:21 pmWould you look at neon if seanzie flips town though bc spoiler I definitely wouldWindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:18 pmOh thanks for reminding me lily flipped town
I was thinking one of those two names was gonna flip wolf with Seanzie
So I guess I'll look at neon again if Seanzie flips wolf which he probably will, if he doesn't, oh well
Neon was in my PoE anyway
And is willing to vote pretty much anyone by EOD to save Neon.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:59 pmWell that's disappointing.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:37 pmI cannot recall any feeling I've had towards Neon or anything they've done, so mostly they just aren't on my mind. I know you quoted a post where I said something about Neon, but clearly it wasn't that important to me since I don't remember making it or what I was feeling when I made it.nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:33 pmwhy aren't you pushing neon today?Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:28 pm I know it is early in the day, but I am worried about the current gamestate, and based off it, I think I'm already a reasonable candidate for elim today, and I kind of doubt that is going to change (many people who can be heavy hitters are on the sidelines, and if that remains true, this threadstate will not significantly change by EoD).
Currently though the people pushing me are doing so with nothing. Nutella has "vibes" and "Mac and TSP" stuff. Kate is sheeping this, and WWA because I am different than a game which I played in a very different way than I usually play.
Can y'all help me encourage these people to actually come at me? If I'm a wolf, they have prime opporunities to spew themselves town on me, and if I'm town and we currently sleepwalk into a Seanzie elim with these sorts of cases, y'all don't learn anything from my flip.
ALSO if you have time, after Windwards ISO is open, and you searched for Neon, search THOSE results for Nutella.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:49 pmYeah but I'm solving and leading cause I'm gonna be mostly afk from Thursday through Sunday lolnutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:48 pm Alright I won't vote wind today bc it will be a bigger loss if she is town bc she is solving and leading. We can determine if that's powerwolfing after more flips
And if she's wolf I now think she's more likely tmiing neon than saving her maybe. If she's town I can follow the read for today
So that all combined with letting up on Kate/SVS (though I still don't feel great about SVS) and with falcon still not really doing anything inspiring
[VOTE: falcon] aubergine
Ik was gericht “goofy”.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:03 am i was targeted by a goofy-thing. I have to be obnoxious
You said you were goofied. Today? I am goofied today. Are there two of us? That is not how the role posted by Tutuu said this works.
Nee.
So you only use games that agree with your hypothesis as meta examples??Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:24 amJa, maar ik heb de neiging om dat spel als een toevalstreffer te beschouwen. Het was direct na cartomancy waar je letterlijk iedereen erin een d1 pass gaf voor lage inhoud lol. Ik dacht aan tonggebonden, waar zij en ik min of meer powerwolfed.
Just for you!!
The Host posted it when Pyxxy was huggedDennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:43 amOh shit did I break a ruleTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:40 amok so theoretically don't quote pms but also it's public info I guess.
I got hit with something else that makes me happy
I don't think that's the exact wording but if it is whoopsies sorry
With all due respect, you are always saying how you suck. I don’t agree, but that isn’t the point. The point is that after Windward flipped town,I don’t trust my own instincts this game. I feel like my instincts suck right now. So I would think you would understand how I feel. We are different in most ways, I think, but in this way we are similar.Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:56 pmWhy?
I don’t think he’s bad, tbh. Now that the other games over, I was so sure he was town there, and him being wild led me to reevaluate him here. I just didn’t want to discuss it while the other game was here.
)No they really don’t, though, in this situation. Because of their relationship and because he’s a new, rapidly evolving player, I don’t know that Kates meta read on him is as reliable as her meta read on Golden, say, or even me.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:11 pm "I see you voted him; is it because you think he’s bad, or because you think Dennis isn’t?" - SVS
at some point these become the same thing. there aren't that many people left
I could see how you might think it’s me due to the WWA thing more so than Kate. She’s been solving, I’ve been sulking in a corner making very occasional points.
