The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:38 pm [VOTE: syn] aubergine

Why?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:58 pm Tutuu voting Nutella yeah Tutuu is probably just mafia in this here game honestly.

Do you townread Nutella? Why does Tutuu voting there look bad?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:03 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:58 pm Tutuu voting Nutella yeah Tutuu is probably just mafia in this here game honestly.
Do you townread Nutella? Why does Tutuu voting there look bad?
Firstly, yesish.

Secondly, town Tutuu is one of our regular consensus hivemind types. She doesn't yolo onto Nutella. Town Tutuu is not someone I would ever envision to lead a case on someone like Nutella.

Tutuu is a good player and I don't think she's completely confined to the consensus. Also, Nutella is being suspected by several people so that's not exactly a yolo/independent push.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:18 pm hyena, nook, radish

all on the scumlist

Why do you scumread Nanook again?

Nutella is starting to look townier.

112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:42 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:37 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:27 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:26 pm [VOTE: nanook] aubergine

woof
[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

Woof woof!
You and 112 are on the side of evil if you're against the great, almighty Nanook!
hyena tmiing nanook town?

How do you look at that post and think "that must be a TMI townread"? I'm not getting it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:39 pm Group 1

TurnipHead
Long Con
Made
Hyena
Timsup2nothin
Sloonei
Syn
Thunal33
DrWilgy
sig

Group 2

falcon45ca
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Master Radishes
112
MacDougall
Alison

Group 3

Cat
tutuu
Kylemii
TonyStarkPrime
Michelle
JackofHearts2005
Dear Tribunal

@Justplayingitcool
@Marmot
@nutella
@MartinGG99
@Dyslexicon

Your first task is to vote on which of these three aforementioned groups get absolute and total immunity from day 1.

What exactly do you mean by "total immunity"? Elimination immunity?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:18 pm [VOTE: michelle] aubergine

I looked at the post counts and hers was the highest surprising number. She’s got 70 posts but I feel like I’ve barely noticed her.

Doesn't Michelle usually post less as wolf than as town?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:55 pm i thought mbti too

me too, then I realized calling Sloonei an XSTP and enneagram 1 makes no sense.

Made wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:59 pm ENTP yuuurrrrrrrr

me too!!!

ENTP towncore: me, Mac, Made, Dizzy

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:00 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:59 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:58 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:57 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:50 pm The obvious suspects, Mac and Nutella.

Jack, syn, hyena.
Are these all town reads? Why the bottom three?
Yeh

I think they’re town
Okay.

Why?
Syn is consistently underestimated idt he really has to do much early as mafia to be fine
..and has he done much here?
More than he has to imo

And why do you assume Syn will only meet his bare minimum requirements if he's mafia? I know I go past the bare minimum level of how much I have to play as mafia.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:50 pm I like that big nutella post.
I thought it was horribly flawed...almost flawed enough to think it had to be intentional...and was considering breaking my intent to ignore the thread for a good chunk of time.

Now I am pissed, because you have forced my hand.

WTF do you find to like in that post?

Yeah it's flawed and I'm not at all convinced Nanook is mafia, but it really looks like town!Nutella being convinced she caught a wolf. I don't think wolf!Nutella would scrutinize Nanook's posts at the micro level like that.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:01 pmentp squad hi5

I think I remember you saying you were ENFP right?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:03 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:02 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:01 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:00 pmMac has EAD.
Erectile abnormal dysfunction?
Excessive Abbreviation Disorder.
NAITC!

What's your track record with reading Nanook like?

Oh you guys use the 16personalities names for the types in that poll thread. 16personalities is MBTI for normies that don't actually know what MBTI is. (okay I have a grudge against 16personalities after leaving that forum community)

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:08 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:06 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:01 pmentp squad hi5
I think I remember you saying you were ENFP right?
i think i was wrong / maybe it can change i dunno

i cant / dont want to back off from debates or arguments atm so i think T

That's fine! I actually was just wondering whether you were saying you were an ENTP or not/if I remembered correctly. I have little confidence trying to type people anymore so I'm not influencing what you type as.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:12 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:11 pm Oh you guys use the 16personalities names for the types in that poll thread. 16personalities is MBTI for normies that don't actually know what MBTI is. (okay I have a grudge against 16personalities after leaving that forum community)
fuck them if u hate them then we hate them too

fuck 16personalities forum community

I mean I spent like 3 years there and the environment just turned not good. There were a lot of cliques and mean people, also the moderation was absurdly strict on some things like not allowing any discussion of non-MBTI personality theories and permabanning 2 people because they said MBTI wasn't scientific.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:16 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:12 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:11 pm Oh you guys use the 16personalities names for the types in that poll thread. 16personalities is MBTI for normies that don't actually know what MBTI is. (okay I have a grudge against 16personalities after leaving that forum community)
fuck them if u hate them then we hate them too

fuck 16personalities forum community

I mean I spent like 3 years there and the environment just turned not good. There were a lot of cliques and mean people, also the moderation was absurdly strict on some things like not allowing any discussion of non-MBTI personality theories and permabanning 2 people because they said MBTI wasn't scientific.

But hey, without them turning bad I wouldn't have joined PerC and found forum mafia and by extension I wouldn't be here.

I feel like Tim's really different take on Nutella/Nanook comes from town more often than not. It's against the consensus but in a way that I could see town reasoning from.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:25 pm Meh he’d still be better off trying to pocket Nutes or Mac unless he’s teamed with both

That’s true for multi and single ball

I know someone from MU who played a 3p scum faction exactly the way she would play town, like putting lots of thought in solving and townreading/scumreading exactly the same people she would as town with the exception of her teammates. However, if I randed 3p (which I still never have) I imagine I would strategically tweak my reads to improve my appearance and further my team's agenda. Do we think most scum members would solve just like they would as town except for their teammates or strategically change their reads from what they actually believe?

112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:31 pm sloonei town, anyone who disagrees is not seeing the game well

Why are you confident Sloonei is town? Also, what's your read on me right now?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:35 pm i think the best way to form reads is to look at not only who's being towny but also who's being so towny that they would attract a night kill + non w/w interactions

but doing these things would net u dead which is bad for town if ur town and since multiball (if it is) games break the very concept of the original mafia game (uninformed majority vs informed minority), i think the correct approach is to think that if you are "town" you are just part of one of the tribes, and u should kind of play similarly to scum in the sense that self-preservation as town could be an important part just like old school syndicate games where night killed people werent given wins, therefore its suboptimal for one to do the optimal approach of solving the game (assuming that all of my opinions are correct)

in conclusion: i have no conclusion i am just in one of my pessimistic moods and i could be biased and im just overflowing with pessimism but sometimes its accurate and correct but i cant trust myself to know always if its correct or incorrect to trust. yeah. sorry for wasting ur time if u read this post

That makes the game a whole lot harder to read, and I feel like a large portion of us don't even need to hold back our town games to avoid an NK. Scum will then also hold back their games and on balance it will be the same as if nobody held back their games but there's less info being generated.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:34 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:29 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:25 pm Meh he’d still be better off trying to pocket Nutes or Mac unless he’s teamed with both

That’s true for multi and single ball
I know someone from MU who played a 3p scum faction exactly the way she would play town, like putting lots of thought in solving and townreading/scumreading exactly the same people she would as town with the exception of her teammates. However, if I randed 3p (which I still never have) I imagine I would strategically tweak my reads to improve my appearance and further my team's agenda. Do we think most scum members would solve just like they would as town except for their teammates or strategically change their reads from what they actually believe?
Tim will play scum whatever way he thinks gives him the best chance to win

I've never actually played with Tim but I did barely skim his champs qualifier at one point, does he always try really hard to look towny and post a lot as wolf or is that just a champs thing?

I don't have any solid suspects right now, but I don't get the push on DrWilgy. I just don't think he's done anything I can sort as AI, why are people scumreading him already?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:45 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:42 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:34 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:29 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:25 pm Meh he’d still be better off trying to pocket Nutes or Mac unless he’s teamed with both

That’s true for multi and single ball
I know someone from MU who played a 3p scum faction exactly the way she would play town, like putting lots of thought in solving and townreading/scumreading exactly the same people she would as town with the exception of her teammates. However, if I randed 3p (which I still never have) I imagine I would strategically tweak my reads to improve my appearance and further my team's agenda. Do we think most scum members would solve just like they would as town except for their teammates or strategically change their reads from what they actually believe?
Tim will play scum whatever way he thinks gives him the best chance to win
I've never actually played with Tim but I did barely skim his champs qualifier at one point, does he always try really hard to look towny and post a lot as wolf or is that just a champs thing?
That was my second wolf game ever and while I enjoyed the acclaim it is probably not sound reasoning to think it locked me into that particular approach. It wasn't "just a champs thing" but it also wasn't likely to become my "definitive wolf meta."

Wow, I knew you were newer but that's really impressive for your second wolf game ever.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:36 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:31 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:29 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:26 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:23 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:20 pm112 is a duck
This comment had a negative effect on my life.
darkwing duck???
ducky from the land before time???
fr your avatar isn't a duck dressed as a detective?
nope lol

it's Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes dressed as one of his alter egos, Tracer Bullet.

also nute maybe town

What was your thought process in switching this read?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:50 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:47 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:45 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:42 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:34 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:29 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:25 pm Meh he’d still be better off trying to pocket Nutes or Mac unless he’s teamed with both

That’s true for multi and single ball
I know someone from MU who played a 3p scum faction exactly the way she would play town, like putting lots of thought in solving and townreading/scumreading exactly the same people she would as town with the exception of her teammates. However, if I randed 3p (which I still never have) I imagine I would strategically tweak my reads to improve my appearance and further my team's agenda. Do we think most scum members would solve just like they would as town except for their teammates or strategically change their reads from what they actually believe?
Tim will play scum whatever way he thinks gives him the best chance to win
I've never actually played with Tim but I did barely skim his champs qualifier at one point, does he always try really hard to look towny and post a lot as wolf or is that just a champs thing?
That was my second wolf game ever and while I enjoyed the acclaim it is probably not sound reasoning to think it locked me into that particular approach. It wasn't "just a champs thing" but it also wasn't likely to become my "definitive wolf meta."
Wow, I knew you were newer but that's really impressive for your second wolf game ever.
All the best wolf games in champs were from new players this year. i guess it's last year now.

My second wolf game ever I did nothing but post cat gifs before being unable to post most of day 1 (my school wouldn't let me access PerC) and got yeeted day 1. Then everyone underestimated my wolf game and I had like a 7 or 8 game town streak before randing wolf again and solo carrying to the win.

112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:19 am
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:18 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:59 pm ANYWAY

It looks like my towncore right now is Nutella, Tutuu, Kylemii, and Thunal? Sloonei, Mac, and Syn are NOT in based on reading this page.
You shouldn't be townreading me. Why are you?
yeah that's a big flag

most of Hyena's posts have been NAI with one that I thought was towny

112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:26 am a few off-topic posts for Tim is NAGL

112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:38 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:04 am Now let's play some MAFIA!!!!
ok MR is scum

I dislike that 112 has these surface level takes that she never pursues or prods the people she's scumreading with, she just moves on to the next take. It feels like she's not really trying to sort people out or solve the game but just making reads for the sake of making them.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:51 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:47 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:45 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:42 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:34 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:29 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:25 pm Meh he’d still be better off trying to pocket Nutes or Mac unless he’s teamed with both

That’s true for multi and single ball
I know someone from MU who played a 3p scum faction exactly the way she would play town, like putting lots of thought in solving and townreading/scumreading exactly the same people she would as town with the exception of her teammates. However, if I randed 3p (which I still never have) I imagine I would strategically tweak my reads to improve my appearance and further my team's agenda. Do we think most scum members would solve just like they would as town except for their teammates or strategically change their reads from what they actually believe?
Tim will play scum whatever way he thinks gives him the best chance to win
I've never actually played with Tim but I did barely skim his champs qualifier at one point, does he always try really hard to look towny and post a lot as wolf or is that just a champs thing?
That was my second wolf game ever and while I enjoyed the acclaim it is probably not sound reasoning to think it locked me into that particular approach. It wasn't "just a champs thing" but it also wasn't likely to become my "definitive wolf meta."
Wow, I knew you were newer but that's really impressive for your second wolf game ever.
I think the first one was better, to be honest. It was in my home community though where I could play big fish and really drive the thread.

My first wolf game ever was my first game ever. My second wolf game ever was my third game ever.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:29 am martin is towny

hyena thinking the sus on him is reaction testing or whatever is nagl

Agree on Hyena. I don't see how he could have gotten "that's just reaction testing" from the suspicion on him and I know I tend to ask whether suspicion on me is serious more often as mafia.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:40 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:28 am Weak reason, you should be ashamed.
is it just me

or does mafia/scum like never say someone should be ashamed and that its not wrong for me to town-read Michelle here

I think I've seen scum say similar before, but generally to partners rather than townies. I have a weak townread on Michelle just because of the amount of content she's giving and that she seems fairly comfortable (and I think those things are AI for her).

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:15 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:12 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:11 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:08 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:05 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:03 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:58 am if i get 1 more vote on me

we will all regret this

we cant go back

do not do this guys

do NOT put 3 votes on me

DO NOT
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME you were expert in reading tutuu, please help
Idfk she owns my soul
And the read is?
The read is that I can’t confidently read tutu lol
Makes sense tbh

Do you have reads, btw?
Link me if you posted pls
Tim/Mac/nutella/syn/jack/hyena/tsp/thun town

Any scumreads?

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:29 am
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:28 am "usually"

how many games have you even played with me?
through the power of reading, i can see nutella in action beyond only up close and personally

two or three?

Have you seen Nut's scum game? Because if you have I think you'll figure out that this isn't it.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:56 am So like I dunno if the idea of a tribunal is a joke, but she mis-took something very obvious and, knowing Mac, not particularly serious.

You're just stating facts instead of actually saying why that's a reason to scumread Michelle (if it is). I feel like you're not all that motivated to solve this game which I think is scum indicative for you.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:31 pm I actually have met a dog named Marmot, unlike the rest of these names.

I think you're at least a better dog name than Cat.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:36 pm My issue with Nutella here is that I've had basically no content as is normal for me, and yet somehow she's giving a pass to other posters with similar reps (Nanook, Wilgy, et al) and apparently can't formulate any better reads on people with far more content. I am her *only* wolf read, and all I've done is shitpost as usual. My one bit of content, at a stretch, is a mild and brief back and forth with falcon where I felt he was being hedgey and forcing a push on me (and I stand by that, though I don't know it's AI for him) and that's apaprently enough to have her decide I am not only a wolf but her *only* wolf so far.

It's an opportunistic nudge and she's not disguising it well enough.

I don't think she's given a pass to Nanook at all. Also I dislike that you're pushing Nutella because she kind of is obvtown at this point (when I've seen her wolf she hasn't had nearly as much conviction and aggressiveness as she does as town) and I feel like the reasons you're using of "why is Nut only scumreading me for low content this is unfair" can easily come from scum.

112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:50 pm I will say that it looks like Nute is turning the back-and-forth into a "look, maybe you're town" when the start of the conversation was more centred around MR thinking she's wolfing. It's possible she's trying to placate.

You said Nut was obvtown earlier, do you still townread her?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:54 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:52 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:36 pm My issue with Nutella here is that I've had basically no content as is normal for me, and yet somehow she's giving a pass to other posters with similar reps (Nanook, Wilgy, et al) and apparently can't formulate any better reads on people with far more content. I am her *only* wolf read, and all I've done is shitpost as usual. My one bit of content, at a stretch, is a mild and brief back and forth with falcon where I felt he was being hedgey and forcing a push on me (and I stand by that, though I don't know it's AI for him) and that's apaprently enough to have her decide I am not only a wolf but her *only* wolf so far.

It's an opportunistic nudge and she's not disguising it well enough.
I don't think she's given a pass to Nanook at all. Also I dislike that you're pushing Nutella because she kind of is obvtown at this point (when I've seen her wolf she hasn't had nearly as much conviction and aggressiveness as she does as town) and I feel like the reasons you're using of "why is Nut only scumreading me for low content this is unfair" can easily come from scum.
Nutella is obv town?

I think so. She doesn't replicate her town meta that well as wolf ime and doesn't have the same conviction. She's felt less comfortable and almost aimless the last couple times I saw her wolf.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:57 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:54 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:52 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:36 pm My issue with Nutella here is that I've had basically no content as is normal for me, and yet somehow she's giving a pass to other posters with similar reps (Nanook, Wilgy, et al) and apparently can't formulate any better reads on people with far more content. I am her *only* wolf read, and all I've done is shitpost as usual. My one bit of content, at a stretch, is a mild and brief back and forth with falcon where I felt he was being hedgey and forcing a push on me (and I stand by that, though I don't know it's AI for him) and that's apaprently enough to have her decide I am not only a wolf but her *only* wolf so far.

It's an opportunistic nudge and she's not disguising it well enough.
I don't think she's given a pass to Nanook at all. Also I dislike that you're pushing Nutella because she kind of is obvtown at this point (when I've seen her wolf she hasn't had nearly as much conviction and aggressiveness as she does as town) and I feel like the reasons you're using of "why is Nut only scumreading me for low content this is unfair" can easily come from scum.
Nutella is obv town?
I think so. She doesn't replicate her town meta that well as wolf ime and doesn't have the same conviction. She's felt less comfortable and almost aimless the last couple times I saw her wolf.

Like, she makes pushes as wolf but doesn't have the same reasoning and conviction behind them. For example, this game her analyzing Nook's fluff posts was a really towny post since I don't think w!Nutella would think to look in that level of detail.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:57 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:52 pm I get called out for being "opportunistic" almost every town game it's kinda funny
Nutella, I've been in a game or two where you wolfed and you got flat caught for being opportunistic. I can believe that you have incentive to make opportunism a feature in your town play to make it NAI. I can also believe that it is just something you do and is genuinely NAI. But you might wanna not laugh it off because in just my short time I have seen it getting you sussed both correctly and incorrectly, so maybe you wanna just jettison it?

Doesn't being opportunistic with pushes require TMI?

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:37 pm Okay, for real though? Sloonei is mafia. He's the only one that seems to not be joking around with any of us at the moment. He seems very uncomfortable at the moment, which I also take to mean that he doesn't have any teammates that are active right now. Make a note who's joking around right now.

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:58 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:42 pm i dont rly gotta prove anything though. lets say for the sake of argument we're both town and take that as fact temporarily. if u can argue that my perception of u was off and i should be fixing it, i can easily argue that if ur wrongly scumreading me its ur fault and u should be forced to walk back naked thu burning coals. so like, this "blaming game" of "u did something i dislike" doesntcut it for me / im not gonna play it / im not gonna accept to feel pressured into being towny in case ppl arent interpreting me as towny. im here playing my town game, saying whats on my mind, and it is what it is, im not rly gonna jump thru hoops and loops to please demands
This sounds and feels defensive!

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:31 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:28 am
112 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:19 am
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:18 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:59 pm ANYWAY

It looks like my towncore right now is Nutella, Tutuu, Kylemii, and Thunal? Sloonei, Mac, and Syn are NOT in based on reading this page.
You shouldn't be townreading me. Why are you?
yeah that's a big flag

most of Hyena's posts have been NAI with one that I thought was towny
lol, 112 is scum
To clarify why, 112 slipped that she hasn't read "most" of my posts.

I'm looking through Hyena's ISO rn and these don't look like real thoughts (the reasoning on these takes is weak).

[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:08 pm I like to think I've gotten better at reading Radish and he really just feels more in his scum meta from his level of engagement here. And he keeps saying "I've just been fluffing as usual" when that's entirely *not* what he's been doing, I would have townread him if he was.

But maybe I should just wait for @Dyslexicon to read him

I've been wrong about Hyena a few times too but I agree with thunal, his sloonei takes look more manufactured than not.

Does he tend to engage more as town than as mafia?

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:19 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:17 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:08 pm I like to think I've gotten better at reading Radish and he really just feels more in his scum meta from his level of engagement here. And he keeps saying "I've just been fluffing as usual" when that's entirely *not* what he's been doing, I would have townread him if he was.

But maybe I should just wait for @Dyslexicon to read him

I've been wrong about Hyena a few times too but I agree with thunal, his sloonei takes look more manufactured than not.
Does he tend to engage more as town than as mafia?
Not generally, I'd say he engages more early on as mafia while as town it takes him a few phases to get super involved.

Okay. You were talking about Radishes right, since I was asking about Radish not Hyena?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:07 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:05 pm I said it once?
Say it twice. I command you.
And I was calling her town in the post you quoted.
It doesn't look like it.

This is not a productive discussion. You have called me scum off an on for most of the game and have almost always linked nutella in. I assumed that is because we have been firmly town reading each other. If there is more to it, I am unclear on why. I am trying to find that out.
Look hombres. I just don't vibe your pushes. I thought Hyena got really town last time I was reading his shit and saw a 5 player Hyena wagon led by you so I just automatically assumed you probs bad man.

But that's also probs just wrong. The scum there is Made... and probably Thunal.

Why did you townread me earlier and why did that change?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:36 pm Also, I'm alittle upset that no one tried to even guess my Myers briggs. Big sad.

Is it WOLF? or SCUM?

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:29 pm Yeah I'm not entirely discounting the possibility alison is scum playing a tricksy tactic, but I think it's at least equally and probably a good bit more plausible that she's really 3p. Like occam's razor is she really has that role, rather than cleverly coming up with it as a gambit lol

If she completely made up that role she'd risk getting counterclaimed and as other people have said, she wouldn't need to make such a farfetched gambit as mafia. Do I think she's hiding something? Maybe. But I think she's 3p.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:37 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:35 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:53 pm Hyena's response continues to deal with people town-reading them, but this still is not what my issue is. Yes, not everybody in the thread was suspicious of Hyena at the time, and yes several people had expressed multiple reads on Hyena as well. But there was a flurry of suspicion directed at them which struck me in real time as authentic, genuine, and spontaneous. Hyena brushed it off as a widespread reaction test from several people all at once, apparently. And that specific reaction does not sit well with me.

Now having said all of that, it would be groovy if we had a more concrete summary of the suspicion that existed against Hyena at the time. I remember trying to get some hot gossip out of Wilgy at the time to no avail. I don't know if Mac or nutella ever gave us a clear argument either. Tutuu agreed with my take on the "reaction test" response, but prior to that had just plopped a reactionary vote, as far as I recall.
Okay, okay. I'll tell you why Thunal and Syn are ACTUALLY scumreading me. They're OMGUSing me right now, and so is Made probably to a certain degree (after I started talking about him this morning). Basically, everyone that I saw that is suspecting me right now is someone I called scum at some point.
@Thunal33 @Syn @Made

That's not true at all. In fact, I actually forgot Hyena scumread me. I think Hyena's reaction to suspicion and takes throughout the game seem fake (like it feels like he's making up scumreads to say he has reads), and I don't think this "there's no way people are genuinely suspecting me right now" attitude is towny.

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