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by TonyStarkPrime
Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:44 am
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Topic: Girl Genius (END)
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Dom wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:20 am What led you to make a case based on how someone plays usually when you claim you don't know the player well?
Probably because I thought you were scummy and the meta idea behind that was an afterthought.
by TonyStarkPrime
Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:45 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Dom wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:34 am YEs-- Tony, I ask the hard questions.
What's your BTSC telling you to say?
“I told you I should be the one to make a case”
“But Epi said I wasn’t making strong enough reads”
“You idiot I am Epi”
by TonyStarkPrime
Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:54 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Girl Genius (END)
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Dom wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:52 am "I thought you were scummy"

Yeah we've yet to really get at the why there.
And therein lies the problem.
Do you want me to try and build a case again? Do it right the second time? Throw more strikes? I pointed out the posts I didn’t like, you can say that’s a weak case but they are also why I thought you were scummy. I can try again if you want.
by TonyStarkPrime
Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:50 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

timmer wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:44 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:09 am
Dom wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:07 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:57 am
Dom wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:53 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:46 am
Dom wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:42 am
Why?
Why did I give up a bit? I thought there existed a meta case and I read some of your previous games and it seemed par for the course. At which point I’m basing my entire meta case on a game currently in process.
Sounds like you never had a case in the first place.

Which games did you read?
One with Ancient Greece, one weird one that I couldn’t really track that seemed to take place in several different threads, a few where you posted once or twice a day and then died.
You chose a game where I died on Night 3, a game that was hard to follow, and a game I didn't quite play to base your entire case against me that you pushed hard while I wasn't here?
Do I have that right?
Well I read the games after making the case and you didn’t have many recent ones to choose from. The case I pushed while you were here was not in any way based on those games.

If I wanted to I’m sure I could have found some great examples of what I was looking for but it would have been a little disingenuous.
This exchange has my head spinning. Am I correct that the synopsis of this is that tony made a case based on Dom game meta, but then later admitted that he found the games he cited... after making the case?
Yes basically
by TonyStarkPrime
Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:50 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

You have a problem with that
by TonyStarkPrime
Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:01 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Girl Genius (END)
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

timmer wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:39 pm I'm here briefly... so my default vote today will be sabie as my counter-idea yesterday kind of flopped.

I notice that the last 2 things Tony said about me were pro-townie, yet he is voting for me, so that's weird.

I've been reading and following the game more than it might seem, I just haven't had a ton to say at the few times where I've had time to say them.

Right now, I feel like I have zero real pro-town reads..., a huge group of people in the middle meh group, like Epig2, Dom, LC...

Some people I'm gut-reading as bad but can't build much of a case against like juliets, Drag and Owner, and then there are all of the virtually absent players. As for sabie, one thing that is damning imo is that she is making exactly one post a day, which is the exact requirement to not get modblocked. That makes me a bit more comfortable with a lynch in that direction.
I did notice that about Sabie — most townies wouldn’t feel the need to make the necessary post a day but scum has a team to carry.
by TonyStarkPrime
Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:04 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

timmer wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:50 pm Can you explain how that makes sense? Or more specifically, can you explain how that isn't basically admitting that you made a case up? I feel like I'm missing a key piece, here, lol
I ISOed Dom. I came up with a list of complaints, one being that he didn’t pursue some of his cases as much as he should which I noted was especially concerning given that I thought of him (and still do think of him) as a very aggressive player. Then I read some games and found that this was the case but Dom’s posts were still in line with his town baseline.
by TonyStarkPrime
Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:07 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:04 pm
timmer wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:50 pm Can you explain how that makes sense? Or more specifically, can you explain how that isn't basically admitting that you made a case up? I feel like I'm missing a key piece, here, lol
I ISOed Dom. I came up with a list of complaints, one being that he didn’t pursue some of his cases as much as he should which I noted was especially concerning given that I thought of him (and still do think of him) as a very aggressive player. Then I read some games and found that this was the case but Dom’s posts were still in line with his town baseline.
Dom has interpreted this to mean

I made a solely meta case on Dom
I didn’t have any information to back that up
Also my meta case was weak
Also why did I suspect him in the first place
Also I am scum
by TonyStarkPrime
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:43 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Girl Genius (END)
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 4)

Dom wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:53 pm Remember the scum buckets?
Notice timmer didn't make one.
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:42 am Scum buckets:

Sprityo
Sabie
Creature

Dom
Dys
Drago

LC
Owner
Creature
Drago

Everyone else


I am willing to bet that of these four buckets each has at least one of the remaining mafia members. If I’m wrong which bucket doesn’t have one?

And the two posts that even mention timmer are here:
Spoiler: show
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:12 am I was gonna ask you the same thing. Do you want to try to lynch each other?

If not I’m voting for Timmer for now.
Spoiler: show
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:24 am
juliets wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:40 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:12 am
Long Con wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:11 am Hey man, what's up? Can you see me even when I'm invisible?
Only scum players go invisible.
Tony, fyi, iirc LC is always invisible whether he's playing a game or not. I don't consider this as alignment indicative.
I am aware and I would never consider that to be valid info towards a player’s alignment. It’s essentially out of game info.
What's up with that?

So two things:
1) timmer, what are you talking about? He's said nothing positive about you. But he has interacted with you as if he doesn't suspect you.
2) TonyStarkPrime, What gives?
Why didn’t Timmer make a bucket? Doesn’t fit in the LC/LC voters train and hasn’t roused my suspicions as much as those in the talky bucket.
by TonyStarkPrime
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:44 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Dom wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:09 pm TonyStarkPrime, can you confirm that the reason you want to lynch timmer is that he has a lot of posts but no content?
No. Because I don’t really want to lynch Timmer. Did I ever say I want to lynch Timmer?
by TonyStarkPrime
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:46 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Girl Genius (END)
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Dom wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:57 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:04 pm
timmer wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:50 pm Can you explain how that makes sense? Or more specifically, can you explain how that isn't basically admitting that you made a case up? I feel like I'm missing a key piece, here, lol
I ISOed Dom. I came up with a list of complaints, one being that he didn’t pursue some of his cases as much as he should which I noted was especially concerning given that I thought of him (and still do think of him) as a very aggressive player. Then I read some games and found that this was the case but Dom’s posts were still in line with his town baseline.
You read a game I didn't really play, a game where I died on Night 3, and a game where you couldn't follow the thread and concluded this is consistent with my meta?
Was I supposed to conclude that it is not in fact consistent? That you are not behaving like your town baseline? Also for the record I read a few games you didn’t “really play”.
by TonyStarkPrime
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:47 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

timmer wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:51 pm Or you were just really, really sure about Dom's past behaviours in games and made the case, but then only went to find proof of it after?
My assumption was literally Dom=aggressive

Is someone gonna tell me this is wrong
by TonyStarkPrime
Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:58 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

timmer wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:44 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:44 pm
Dom wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:09 pm TonyStarkPrime, can you confirm that the reason you want to lynch timmer is that he has a lot of posts but no content?
No. Because I don’t really want to lynch Timmer. Did I ever say I want to lynch Timmer?
And he has also said this, which is why I don't get his vote.
Okay who should get my vote?
by TonyStarkPrime
Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:59 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:43 pm Hmm, but Tony is really active...could he be so active as scum?

I guess he could be an indie though...idk my bff jill...um hmmm
Yes. I’m just not.
by TonyStarkPrime
Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:26 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

juliets wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:46 pm I read back on Owner and her biggest suspicion of Tony is that he called her slight town after she expressed an opinion that players who make excuses or complain turn out to be scum (she indicates her opinion that he had done that).

He says her case is contrived but he leans slight town on her because she is willing to place a vote on a ping when he thinks there is more damning evidence against him. (@TonyStarkPrime what were you talking about when you said that?)

I don't see this as a strong reason to vote for him. Owner felt like he might be buddying her and I guess for her it is a strong enough reason, coupled with her opinion of his behavior today. I don't think she is trying to set him up, but I'm not seeing a strong enough case even with his awkwardness today to move me to vote him at this time.
I don’t remember that was day 1. I just remember feeling that she had chosen something dumb and if scum wanted to set me up they could apparently just ask me the same stupid questions over and over again and pretend that I was saying something different.
by TonyStarkPrime
Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:40 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Okay it’s weird to me that between sabie and sprityo Sabie has 6 votes and none are on the replacement who’s done even less.
by TonyStarkPrime
Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:47 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Dom wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:44 pm (That indicates to me he might not be bad)
How so? Baddies always willing to dump one of their own?
by TonyStarkPrime
Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:17 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Epignosis wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:01 am Fun fact: Active Syndicate regulars have been getting killed off on the regular.

Not so fun fact: sabie isn't here.

Therefore: sabie isn't doing the killing.

Question for the field: Who is?
Well 5 different people are.
by TonyStarkPrime
Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:29 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Epignosis wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:17 am Dom: Would Dom kill active Syndicate regulars? Perhaps. I don't presently regard sig and Dom as teammates, and I don't view Dom as a nutella recruit for obvious reasons.

Dragomir: Would Dragomir kill active Syndicate regulars? In the words of Snape, "I have no idea."

Sloonlexicon: Would Sloonei kill active Syndicate regulars? Yes.

JackofHearts2005: Would JoH kill active Syndicate regulars? Yes.

juliets: Would juliets kill active Syndicate regulars? Yes.

Long Con: Would LC kill active Syndicate regulars? I don't think he'd make a career out of it- I believe what he said on the matter to an extent. That doesn't prove anything, of course.

Michelle: Would Michelle kill active Syndicate regulars? Maybe. I have some reasons to believe Michelle is not mafia, however.

Owner of a Lonely Heart: Would Owner kill active Syndicate regulars? Maybe. Same boat as Michelle minus reasons.

sabie12: Would sabie kill active Syndicate regulars? Yes, but sabie isn't here, man.

sprityo: Would sprityo kill active Syndicate regulars? Yes, but sprityo isn't here, man.

timmer: Would timmer kill active Syndicate regulars? Yes, that bastard would.

TonyStarkPrime: Would TSP kill active Syndicate regulars? Yes- see Fallout (although to be fair, "active Syndicate regulars" made up most of the field). In looking at that one, I was killed Night 1 there (Night 2 here), LC was killed Night 2 there (still alive here), sprityo Night 3 there (subbed in here). I don't see much correlation unless TSP hates me.
So from what I’m hearing basically anyone.

Let’s take mine. Yeah I’d kill active regulars. I’d probably shoot LC and Jack by now cause we’ve played substantially more together and I wouldn’t have taken the exact same lines the scum have taken so far this game but I’ll shoot active players who have a history of being good. (Actually in this one as the SK I’d be putting bullets in non-participants it makes discussion run better which means scum is more likely caught which increases your odds- a message to the SK: please shoot the players who aren’t talking it saves town some work and increases your win percentage).
by TonyStarkPrime
Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:31 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Continued: but that doesn’t really mean anything if those are the standard kill targets and there are four other people with guns. There’s no real way to analyze it in a data set like that with this sort of player base.
by TonyStarkPrime
Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:31 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Long Con wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:27 am I'm the only one who wouldn't kill all the actives! :)

Ok, I'll try Timmster. [VOTE: timmer] aubergine
I don’t think he’d make a career out of it is a little different than no not LC
by TonyStarkPrime
Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:34 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Epignosis wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:34 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:31 am Continued: but that doesn’t really mean anything if those are the standard kill targets and there are four other people with guns. There’s no real way to analyze it in a data set like that with this sort of player base.
All of the mafia kills have been active Syndicate regulars. I don't care that others were killed by other people.
How can you tell which ones are mafia kills?
by TonyStarkPrime
Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:46 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Epignosis wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:44 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:34 am
Epignosis wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:34 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:31 am Continued: but that doesn’t really mean anything if those are the standard kill targets and there are four other people with guns. There’s no real way to analyze it in a data set like that with this sort of player base.
All of the mafia kills have been active Syndicate regulars. I don't care that others were killed by other people.
How can you tell which ones are mafia kills?
Did I say I could?
Well I mean that was the implication I read by all the mafia kills have been by Syndicate regulars but I think we might be miscommunicating here
by TonyStarkPrime
Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:03 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Epignosis wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:01 am TSP was on timmer and is now on sprityo.
Yes I’m not sure what I’m doing on account of trying to process what Jack said.
by TonyStarkPrime
Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:17 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Epignosis wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:08 am
Dom wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:06 am
Epignosis wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:04 am Huh:

Creature voters: Jack, timmer, juliets, Dyslexicon, Michelle

All living people. All people I said would kill active Syndicate members (maybe Michelle).

sabie voters: Long Con, TSP, Epi, Creature (dead), Quin (dead)

:ponder:
CAn you spell this out for me?
There are no conclusions here. I was comparing the previous vote to the other thing I wrote.
Another crazy note: every single person who had voted for sabie is now not voting for sabie. Every person who had voted for Creature is now voting for sabie.
by TonyStarkPrime
Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:53 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

juliets wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:14 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:26 pm
juliets wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:46 pm I read back on Owner and her biggest suspicion of Tony is that he called her slight town after she expressed an opinion that players who make excuses or complain turn out to be scum (she indicates her opinion that he had done that).

He says her case is contrived but he leans slight town on her because she is willing to place a vote on a ping when he thinks there is more damning evidence against him. (@TonyStarkPrime what were you talking about when you said that?)

I don't see this as a strong reason to vote for him. Owner felt like he might be buddying her and I guess for her it is a strong enough reason, coupled with her opinion of his behavior today. I don't think she is trying to set him up, but I'm not seeing a strong enough case even with his awkwardness today to move me to vote him at this time.
I don’t remember that was day 1. I just remember feeling that she had chosen something dumb and if scum wanted to set me up they could apparently just ask me the same stupid questions over and over again and pretend that I was saying something different.
Tony thanks for your response but I just need to clarify something. Did you feel at the time scum was asking you the "same stupid questions over and over again and pretending you were saying something different?" I don't remember that. If you can point me to a post that would be great as I'm not sure I'll have time to search for it in your ISO today.
Spoiler: show
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:02 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:58 am I don't really follow the Dom/Tony argument really well. Tony says he is suspicious of Dom because meta? What are other people's read on Dom?
No I thought that Dom wasn’t aggressive enough and that some of his posts looked scummy. And maybe meta but that went south. Apparently everyone else thinks he’s town.
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:44 am
Dom wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:20 am What led you to make a case based on how someone plays usually when you claim you don't know the player well?
Probably because I thought you were scummy and the meta idea behind that was an afterthought.
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:54 am
Dom wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:52 am "I thought you were scummy"

Yeah we've yet to really get at the why there.
And therein lies the problem.
Do you want me to try and build a case again? Do it right the second time? Throw more strikes? I pointed out the posts I didn’t like, you can say that’s a weak case but they are also why I thought you were scummy. I can try again if you want.
timmer wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:44 pm
Spoiler: show
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:09 am
Dom wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:07 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:57 am
Dom wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:53 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:46 am
Dom wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:42 am
Why?
Why did I give up a bit? I thought there existed a meta case and I read some of your previous games and it seemed par for the course. At which point I’m basing my entire meta case on a game currently in process.
Sounds like you never had a case in the first place.

Which games did you read?
One with Ancient Greece, one weird one that I couldn’t really track that seemed to take place in several different threads, a few where you posted once or twice a day and then died.
You chose a game where I died on Night 3, a game that was hard to follow, and a game I didn't quite play to base your entire case against me that you pushed hard while I wasn't here?
Do I have that right?
Well I read the games after making the case and you didn’t have many recent ones to choose from. The case I pushed while you were here was not in any way based on those games.

If I wanted to I’m sure I could have found some great examples of what I was looking for but it would have been a little disingenuous.
This exchange has my head spinning. Am I correct that the synopsis of this is that tony made a case based on Dom game meta, but then later admitted that he found the games he cited... after making the case?
that was a reference to todayish where some people whose intentions I am not sure of asked me a lot of the same things with the same underlying assumptions.

What do you think about the fact that apparently the entire creature wagon has migrated to Sabie?
by TonyStarkPrime
Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:35 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Long Con wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:08 pm
timmer wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:44 am My concern with sabie is if she is Baron. If she did have a night where she didn't submit a power, her vote total would have been lowered by 2, so anyone voting for her in yesterday's lynch could have been a baddie teammate, knowing that a tie wasn't really a tie. But potentially now she did use a power, etc. because there is suddenly an air of "don't lynch sabie" that was absent yesterday.
I am actually going to go back to sabie. I thought your Epig post was town-believable. [VOTE: sabie] aubergine

Also agree that Tony's observation following Epi's (about the votes) was both interesting and weird.
It’s insane I’m marking it for post game analysis while I sit around and try to figure out how the heck it makes sense
by TonyStarkPrime
Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:03 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

@Jules yeah I have no idea all I can tell is that I didn’t feel like Owner was trying to set me up.

I have no idea what to make of it it’s crazy. I guess in theory it works if Sabie was scum but scum didn’t want to bus yesterday and see no other option today which I actually think would shape our scum team pretty effectively.
by TonyStarkPrime
Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:16 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Epignosis wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:32 pm So let's try this a new way: sabie is bad. Where do you go Day 6 and why? sabie is good. Where do you Day 6 and why?
Michelle, Drago, and Owner are the only players who haven’t voted for Sabie between today and yesterday. My guess is that means inverse relationship? Drago hasn’t been around today as far as I can tell so no judgment there, Michelle seems bleh but I’m holding onto Epi’s read for today, Owner seems fine.

What is the relationship between the status of Timmer and Sabie? Jack said he thought Timmer was town for x reason but hasn’t elaborated on that thusfar.
by TonyStarkPrime
Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:17 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

It could also be that Town is following around scum lynches: scum is setting up a dichotomy between the town candidate they’re pushing for lynch and the lynch they pushed yesterday. That would mean Epi and LC need a reread.
by TonyStarkPrime
Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:39 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Epignosis wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:33 pm Why is Dizzy scummy?
It's more about Sloonei than Dizzy. I'll say that much.

Bad Sloonei has an uncanny way of showing his hand eventually. He's subbed out, so that can never be ascertained. All Dizzy2 has to do is replicate what Dizzy 1 was doing, and if the civilians were on such a shitty streak, as they were, that wouldn't be hard to do.
It’s very simple for Dizzy to just pretend he never died. As far as the psychology of it goes it’d be much easier if he’d normally skate it in to just take his town role as opposed to fully assume his usual wolf attire.

Why did mafia take out Quin last night? Anyone know?
by TonyStarkPrime
Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:58 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 6)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:27 pm Everyone who suspects me raise your hand lol.
this is a scum Jack sentence
by TonyStarkPrime
Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:59 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 6)

Okay Drago how did you feel about the Sabie lynch? Pro or anti?
by TonyStarkPrime
Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:13 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 6)

Here's some actual mechanical analysis: someone give me odds that the mafia knows who the serial killer is.
by TonyStarkPrime
Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:26 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 6)

Put this another way: an efficient usage of the scum powerset is to block two people each night. That can narrow down the list pretty quickly. For the last two nights there have only been one kill. Blocks? Maybe. Doctors? Maybe. Same targets? Maybe. Immunities? Maybe but then there'd be some other clear information available. In any case I'd assume scum has some solid distinction of what people are and what people might be more dangerous to them.
by TonyStarkPrime
Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:32 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 6)

Dom wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:36 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:27 pm Everyone who suspects me raise your hand lol.
this is a scum Jack sentence
why aren't you voting for him?
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:59 pm Okay Drago how did you feel about the Sabie lynch? Pro or anti?
This was ragomir's last post.
Weird you think he'd respond to this... unless...
1. Town Jack gets influenced by scummy Jack. It makes him arrogant. Though generally town Jack just seems very confused until he accidentally solves the game.
2. I see no connection between his post and what I asked him.
by TonyStarkPrime
Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:44 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 6)

You mean do I expect him to continue to participate in this game?

No. But I mean
by TonyStarkPrime
Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:44 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 6)

I’m not going to act as if I don’t expect him to continue.
by TonyStarkPrime
Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:50 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 0)

sabie12 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:41 am
RainyDay wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:36 pm Hello, all! This is my first game here. Here's hoping I don't die N1. And also hoping I didn't jinx it with that. What's the etiquette on this forum for that kinda thing? XD
Welcome! Just have fun and try your best. Have you played on other sites?
Who is rainyday now?

Let’s play a game. Sabie makes more or less one post a day. This is one of those posts. Does she ever do that if this is a mafia teammate?
by TonyStarkPrime
Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:50 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 6)

Rainyday is Epi
by TonyStarkPrime
Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:07 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 6)

Dom wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:44 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:00 am Dom, I’m saying a Timmer flip will effect my Michelle read.

That doesn’t mean I don’t have a Michelle read.
....right....

"I think Michelle is bad. But I'll know if she's bad if timmer isn't. Therefore, I should lynch Michelle first!"

What.
This is correct reasoning if you don’t think Timmer is scum and you do think Michelle is scum. It’s obviously correct reasoning. It’s not particularly controversial.
by TonyStarkPrime
Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:09 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 5)

Dyslexicon wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:04 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:39 pm
Epignosis wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:33 pm Why is Dizzy scummy?
It's more about Sloonei than Dizzy. I'll say that much.

Bad Sloonei has an uncanny way of showing his hand eventually. He's subbed out, so that can never be ascertained. All Dizzy2 has to do is replicate what Dizzy 1 was doing, and if the civilians were on such a shitty streak, as they were, that wouldn't be hard to do.
It’s very simple for Dizzy to just pretend he never died. As far as the psychology of it goes it’d be much easier if he’d normally skate it in to just take his town role as opposed to fully assume his usual wolf attire.

Why did mafia take out Quin last night? Anyone know?
I've never tried to sub in as a different alignment before, but I definitely don't understand why that would be "easier". Anyway, I'm still town, and I'm glad I got the chance to sub in again, cause I was pretty annoyed with how D1 went and dying N1 as well. So I was already invested in the game when I came in again. Jack may be buddying me, but it's true that I prefer playing town waaaaaay more than scum.
I’ll hesitantly trust better opinions on this one. Also can’t really imagine anyone who’d rather be Town than scum but I think I might be an odd one out on that.
by TonyStarkPrime
Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:00 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 6)

[mention]Dom[/mention]

Yeah it’d be nice if he explained that beyond the wagonomics. But to that extent his townread of Timmer is at least documented. If to him one of Timmer and Michelle is scum he’d vote for the one he thinks is scummy.
by TonyStarkPrime
Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:01 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 6)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:59 am It’s actually in our best interest to lynch the sker today but imo, we’re going to have to luck into that.
(Hence the first line of questioning of the day)
by TonyStarkPrime
Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:04 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 6)

If scum knows who the SK is than we’re best off lynching scum because it’s such a high risk strategy to not block the SK — but if we lynch scum scum might determine that that risk is mitigated by their low numbers.
by TonyStarkPrime
Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:06 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 6)

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:13 pm Here's some actual mechanical analysis: someone give me odds that the mafia knows who the serial killer is.
Nope the first line of questioning was about Drago on review. Whatever line of questioning this was
by TonyStarkPrime
Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:20 am
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 6)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:06 am Lol what if Timmer is the sker?

Suspicious players hate him!
(An implication)
by TonyStarkPrime
Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:36 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 6)

sprityo wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:58 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:39 pm @sprityo

Were you gonna post something or just checking to make sure nobody is voting for you or what?
Something
pls SK kill this man
by TonyStarkPrime
Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:41 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 6)

Let’s talk about the usage from Jack and others of sker.

sker would imply that just sk would be serial kill.

There is no such thing as a serial kill it is almost oxymoronic. Therefore it is a bad abbreviation and we should cut off the last two letters and leave it at SK.

Thank y’all for coming to my ted talk.
by TonyStarkPrime
Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:47 pm
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Re: Girl Genius (Day 6)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:39 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:36 pm
sprityo wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:58 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:39 pm @sprityo

Were you gonna post something or just checking to make sure nobody is voting for you or what?
Something
pls SK kill this man
Tony, gimmie a rainbow.

Welp I’m nothing if not performative.

Grey: Quin

Light green:
Jack
Epi

Yellow / current townie tinfoils:
Dys
Juliets

Light Orange:
Dom
Owner

Orange:
Timmer
Michelle

Purple:
Sprityo
Drago


Just a coincidence that it’s two to a tier. Arranged top to bottom on willingness to lynch except purple cause what the heck do you do with them

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