The Syndicate

FG has put in work this page. It seems authentic, and I like the vote parked on me as opposed to Speed or LC. It’s a bit flashy.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:29 pm he's also tryna position himself to vote me which is also... kinda... bad...

speed's name's been thrown around as a suspicion all game though. i'm not married to the idea, but i'm coming around to him being a hit

this post contains some great irony

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:35 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:24 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:33 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:44 pm Okay it’s not Sloonei, LC, Drago, TS
Probably not Mac, Epi, MR, FG
Could be Leetic, Speed, Ted, TH
rainbow

how did i go from probably not scum to scum?

walk me through it

You were the last name on probably not scum. I inherited a town read on Ted from his townmates. It’s not Leetic. I’ve read TH higher. WelcOme to the scum side

right but the jump from "probably not scum" to "scum" is still drastic and unnatural.

and now you're weakening your read on me. so what is it? what do you think about me rn?

drastic and unnatural seems a little excessive for moved down one or two names on the rainbow. The read was based on a play pattern, a sort of attempt to fake action idea. I think your recent posts aren’t in that pattern, but they don’t trigger a “this is definitely town” vibe and additionally I think you’re trying to steer conversation to other outlets. So I have to reconsider. You’ve probably moved up one or two slots.

Linki: @epi could be meta it’s some people’s thing but vacuum I agree

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:47 pm I want ted to die. Nobody wants ted to die. Why doesn't nobody want ted to die?

Angry ted has scared off all customers?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:33 pm It's sad that probably 3 town are arguing. Drago, ts, Sloonei. Makes me really sad.



this post was made by the wolf association down your neighbourhood

Self aware scum still scum? Would scum ever make a statement like the first half? Even with the qualifier “probably”? It seems far too on the nose as obvious to draw lame suspicion

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:37 pm MR is your case on me the same as it was on page 2?

I don’t like posts like this on principle but I think that principle might be mistaken.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:22 pm Dragomir can die, tomorrow though. I changed my read. I'll ISO him in-depth tonight, if I get to live.

Killed Drago to save the trouble of the ISO?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:57 pm [quote=TonyStarkPrime post_id=598660 time=<a href="tel:1586141809">1586141809</a> user_id=554]
[quote=tedxtr post_id=596705 time=<a href="tel:1585759066">1585759066</a> user_id=695]
MR is your case on me the same as it was on page 2?

I don’t like posts like this on principle but I think that principle might be mistaken.
[/quote]

What is the basis of that principle?

[/quote]

I and many others play on the general basis of “treat suspicion on you no different than that on any other player, be generally indifferent to pressure, people who do those things are town”.
Ted making a few different posts asking directly about reads on him and pressure against him goes against that principle, but in FG’s recent concern with exactly where she is on my reads list, I feel that perhaps there’s something to be said for understanding scum reads against you and playing defense where necessary.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:35 pm Every suspect I can come up with feels underwhelming. That could just mean that the bulk of our activity has been driven by civilians.

who said this earlier?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:05 am ok sorry i'm back: don't you think that ted would have died if he were town? and tsp just acknowledged ted's potential soft earlier in the game

did anyone take that seriously? i'd imagine wolves would want to take out a vig

@@@anyone who wants to answer

You’re taking that vig thing more seriously than anyone else; I don’t think scum would’ve taken great odds. And sometimes a town vig can be good to leave around.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:19 am I just double checked. Ted never answered LC and LC never asked him to. Now I think they're teammates.

So your teammate asks you an easy question and you just ... don’t respond? It was a softball and if they were teamed Ted would have no reason to suspect the question to have deeper motivation

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:49 am Hot take: mafia have not made any of the last ~50 posts (last ~16 hours real time).

It was this guy, roughly. Sloonei takes his scum read’s game building theory?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:00 am while i'm rambling i think tsp's a hit. anyway i'll go back into the thread. grumble grumble

Finger to the pulse I’m probably the second or third most likely person to be lynched today, so the vote isn’t purposeless as scum. But I think I’m comfortable enough with this much tunneling to move my vote to Speed

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:25 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:21 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:19 am I just double checked. Ted never answered LC and LC never asked him to. Now I think they're teammates.

So your teammate asks you an easy question and you just ... don’t respond? It was a softball and if they were teamed Ted would have no reason to suspect the question to have deeper motivation

What if Ted didn't want to elaborate on what he was saying? Why has LC not asked him to explain himself since?

Seems easy to answer though, no? Why wouldn’t Ted want to say? LC might have forgotten or made an educational guess based on context. It really doesn’t seem like a substantial question.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:36 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:23 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:49 am Hot take: mafia have not made any of the last ~50 posts (last ~16 hours real time).

It was this guy, roughly. Sloonei takes his scum read’s game building theory?

Big Fart.

Just sayin

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:40 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:37 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:36 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:23 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:49 am Hot take: mafia have not made any of the last ~50 posts (last ~16 hours real time).

It was this guy, roughly. Sloonei takes his scum read’s game building theory?

Big Fart.

Just sayin

I was unaware that that comment had been made.
Qualifying Master Radishes as my “scum read” singular is a completely inadequate way to frame my position on him or anything else in this game. I had a vote on him. That is all.
And third, why does this even matter?

1) wasnt aware who made the original comment when I asked. Thought it was \interesting\ that you had taken a position that had been discussed previously when you hadn’t been involved in the original conversation. Could be harmless mind meld, could be scum looking to build an agenda.
2) cool
3) see 1

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:20 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:33 pm Long Con was the competing wagon to leetic. They ended up tied. Nobody sprang to save him. What does this mean? I can go either way on it.

I asked this question at the start of the day and it never gained traction. I'd like to put it forth again. We had a two way tie and a third wagon that was one vote behind, and yet the end of the phase slipped by quietly and without much commotion.

What does that tell us?

One of three and a half:
1) Scum wasn’t around at EOD and got lucky (LC’s self vote throws a wrench in some ways this could play out)
2) There is no scum in the top lynch options
3) Scum was actively bussing and didn’t succeed
3.5) scum actively saved a teammate (again LC’s self vote makes this weird, but maybe TH?)

All of these are possible. 2 is the most wide open and I think the most likely by a fair margin. Maybe two scum in thread bussing TH or LC. 3 covers all LC team possibilities. 1 can be dissolved into 3 or 4 team comps, none of which seem likely.

Teds at two votes from GoC teammates with one against

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:38 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:34 am Teds at two votes from GoC teammates with one against

what is the strongest read you have on a player in this game right now, either town or mafia?

Mac is town.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:10 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:38 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:34 am Teds at two votes from GoC teammates with one against

what is the strongest read you have on a player in this game right now, either town or mafia?

Mac is town.

This is my only hard and fast read, I’m tinfoiling a bit on TS and LC can be my pet town read.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:11 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:10 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:38 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:34 am Teds at two votes from GoC teammates with one against

what is the strongest read you have on a player in this game right now, either town or mafia?

Mac is town.

Now go the other way. Strongest suspect?

Speed on probability alone

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:14 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:10 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:38 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:34 am Teds at two votes from GoC teammates with one against

what is the strongest read you have on a player in this game right now, either town or mafia?

Mac is town.

Can you give me cliffs of the TSP/Dragomir engagements that were?

Don’t know what this means

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:55 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:50 am Actually TSP doesn't have a single read on me in his ISO that is accompanied by reasons.

Does he have reasons for anyone else?

he had some reasons for suspecting me but it didn't warrant his voting me yesterday

i think he's scummy do you think he's scummy?

you're really hung up on this vote

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:46 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:06 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:11 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:10 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:38 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:34 am Teds at two votes from GoC teammates with one against

what is the strongest read you have on a player in this game right now, either town or mafia?

Mac is town.

Now go the other way. Strongest suspect?

Speed on probability alone

What does this even mean?

And does 'probability alone' mean you don't have to justify your read?

It means I kinda townread most others on the suspects list. Given a scum team composed of that suspects list, you're the most likely.
That is a justification of my read. Do you want additional justification?

Additional justification: I read through Speed's posts and found nothing that justified a town read. There was an interaction with Ted that set off my tinglies, but it's not a particularly discrete read.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:08 am

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:55 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:50 am Actually TSP doesn't have a single read on me in his ISO that is accompanied by reasons.

Does he have reasons for anyone else?

he had some reasons for suspecting me but it didn't warrant his voting me yesterday

i think he's scummy do you think he's scummy?

you're really hung up on this vote

I mean additionally of all the people I've voted for this game I've given the most sustained reasoning for why I suspected for you and then voted for you. You just reread and you saw I was expressing suspicion of you early day one and I kept it. If you expect me to have detailed reasoning each time I want to vote someone early in the day, you're going to be sorely disappointed.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:35 am The majority of votes are now sitting on three of the four lowest posters in speed, TSP, and TH (the fourth being LC, who has also had several votes previously this round).

Apparently no one else see a problem with this?

seems a little easy, dontcha think

Sloonei and Mac have both expressed some hesitation about this.

I'd agree with Mac that the only person who doesn't kill Sloonei is Sloonei if it weren't that the last time I was scum we intentionally didn't kill Sloonei to allow that argument to be made.

If MR is scum they're scum with TH I think. FG said in one of her longer posts that that was unlikely. Conclusion: not scum?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:20 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:43 am If MR is scum they're scum with TH I think. FG said in one of her longer posts that that was unlikely. Conclusion: not scum?

Qualify this. What would MR be scum with TH?

MR argued that current lynch options were weak — something as scum you can do to get town cred (notable since MR had votes earlier) or if you have scum partner among the 5ish people with votes. Notably MR left TH off the lowest posters list though TH is fifth, and MR/LC doesn’t make sense with day 1.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:26 pm Here's a fun one: A readlist based only on people's current votes:

Good votes - MacDougall, Sloonei, Funnygurl, ts account, Epignosis
Not Good Votes - Turnip Head, Master Radishes, Long Con, TSP, Ted

Speed is a clever player, but I don’t think I can see him doing something like this as scum. It has a very “I’m town and here’s what’s up” vibe and it’s something that scum has to pause on the submit button and look at. Thoughts?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:50 pm Tony voted leetic and it doesn't look like he ever took his foot off the gas.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:20 am Leetic is putting in real work here.

Okay then.

Lynch on cruise control

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:00 pm [VOTE: TSP] aubergine I feel reasonably confident with this vote

so this is zip in zip out?

vote TH

link: he's still here

Hello Turnip I'm not scum.

Are you?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:42 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:39 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:50 pm Tony voted leetic and it doesn't look like he ever took his foot off the gas.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:20 am Leetic is putting in real work here.

Okay then.

Lynch on cruise control

What?

It's fair. I left my vote on Leetic and spent the rest of the day trying to get something out of Drago.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:52 pm Mr. Stark, why are you town?

role card
and also I like to think I haven't done anything suspicious looking and I've done some prodding and some light analysis

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:58 pm I agree you haven't done anything particularly scummy but you also haven't done anything not scummy. To me it feels like you'd rather be safe than make any moves at all

If I haven't made any moves at all then I'm clearly not scum.
I also don't think I've played safe, just a bit quieter. But even as town, I invite action.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:40 pm

Richard!

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:31 pm voted radish

Team mate with TH?

Seems unlikely, too on the nose. Vote: speed

Okay can I have character claims from everyone?
No reason why. Story curiosities. They’re completely randomized.

I’m Lucy.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:42 am Scum team could be Mikey, funny girl and tedextr as far as I'm concerned

It’s cliche, but rule of three

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:49 pm Every single player has appeared today. The only one not present recently is Tony. If the mafia are in a position right now where they can hammer Epignosis with a quick spurt of votes (if one or neither of Sloonei and Long Con are mafia), then the only thing preventing that right this moment would have to be a mafia Tony.

mafia Tony is reliable

I maintain that speedchuck is the right lynch today, if our interlopers are to be trusted.

I seriously need some character claims from some people. [mention]speedchuck[/mention] [mention]Epignosis[/mention] Here’s the defense: it’s role madness and I know nothing about Assassin’s Creed so you’re not losing much.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:03 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:19 pm I readily grant that LC’s failed hammer vote rubbed me wrong.

Yeeeeaaaah actually that might make me think LC's scum and Epi's not??

LC FG TS
FG’s “whadda ya think about this Mikey” gimmick seems pretty not w/w

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:07 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:06 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:03 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:19 pm I readily grant that LC’s failed hammer vote rubbed me wrong.

Yeeeeaaaah actually that might make me think LC's scum and Epi's not??

LC FG TS
FG’s “whadda ya think about this Mikey” gimmick seems pretty not w/w

Why not?

Pretty aggressive buddying scheme for teammates. It’s not out of anyone’s range and I suppose there are pairs I could see it with, but it feels earnest.

Epi, have you claimed a character?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:12 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:11 pm Epi, have you claimed a character?

I have not.

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