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Hey guys
- Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:30 pm
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Vote leetic
- Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:31 pm
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This is perhaps worse than the Leetic but it’s heart is in the right placeLong Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:45 pmI would also say the same about JaggedJimmyJay, but he's Schrödinger's player right now. I'll join you on the Sloonei vote, he has three posts and they're all about an issue that's above his pay grade as a player. In A World Asunder, town Sloonei opened Day 1 with two town reads and a vote on a suspect. [VOTE: sloonei] aubergineleetic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:22 pm Usually much more has happened by now. This feels weird.
Right now, [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine. He is usually one of the more active people who tries to get stuff going, but right now his only contributions have been setup speculation. I'm not really seeing him trying to get any meaningful discussion going so I have to be suspicious.
- Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:08 am
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- Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:09 am
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False town Sloonei aggressive lyncherSloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:05 am I can see how ts account could have interpreted my reaction to him as an aggressive push to “get him lynched.” I’m not sure what his mafia experience is, but it’s believable that that sort of overt manipulation is not irregular to him.
It is not how I operate regardless of my alignment.
- Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:12 am
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I don’t like this post from Drago. Ironically it’s seems like something I’d post but that’s irrelevant.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:16 am Sloonei is town. There was absolutely nothing wrong with him talking mechanically. It's not pro anything and doesn't deter the game at all. An argument could be made that it is beneficial towards the game and lets you understand what could be going on. That newfound understanding can better your reads.
Why was Sloonei being voted for mechanical talk? Ts why are you gungho about it? I can't help but agree with Sloonei that suspecting someone over mechanical is suspicious in of itself. It's lazy and never actually feels like a genuine read. Furthermore, scum use this too much to get by with their fake suspicions. Thus why it feels lazy and not genuine.
- Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:30 pm
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The defense hinges on what amounts to a non-existent part of the case. It seems like Drago is more focused on earning town credSloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:15 amTell me moreTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:12 amI don’t like this post from Drago. Ironically it’s seems like something I’d post but that’s irrelevant.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:16 am Sloonei is town. There was absolutely nothing wrong with him talking mechanically. It's not pro anything and doesn't deter the game at all. An argument could be made that it is beneficial towards the game and lets you understand what could be going on. That newfound understanding can better your reads.
Why was Sloonei being voted for mechanical talk? Ts why are you gungho about it? I can't help but agree with Sloonei that suspecting someone over mechanical is suspicious in of itself. It's lazy and never actually feels like a genuine read. Furthermore, scum use this too much to get by with their fake suspicions. Thus why it feels lazy and not genuine.
- Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:32 pm
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Yes.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:59 am ok i gotta ask what's up with radish and turnip accs viewing the thread
at first i saw a turnip and was like "cool" but now there's also a radish and does the syndicate have a root vegetable fetish?
- Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:34 pm
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I like this post.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:15 amThere exists somewhere a big imaginary book of mafia. When players are good enough, they get a chance to write a chapter of the book. In some footnotes, you will find clear references to mechanical discussion being a scumtell. I do not know what to tell you beyond this. I am not the one who decides what are and aren't considered scumtells, though I do have a few scumtells of my own that I have not seen other players share.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:09 am I could use the same logic against you. You have only played a fraction of the amount of mafia games that exist so you can't truly know that mechanical talk is widely considered a scumtell. It might have been from the games you've played but not the many others have.
So basically, trying to say that mechanical talk is a scumtell is bullshit. It's not a universal opinion. I want you to explain to me what really makes mechanical talk a bad thing.
Generally, scum (moreso bad scum than good scum) will struggle to generate content. This is the closest thing you can get to objective in mafia- sort by postcount will almost always win more games than any individual player's reads, it has been tested. As a result of this, scum (moreso bad scum than good scum) will latch onto low-hanging talking points. In mystery games especially, mechanical discussion is inevitable from any alignment, but scum (moreso bad scum than good scum) are happy to engage in this discourse, as it means they don't have to provide fake content.
Happy?
- Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:49 pm
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I’m on the side that continuing on this point is a good look for the one being called Mikey for one. Further, I think the reasoning is sound.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:42 pmWhy do you like it?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:34 pmI like this post.ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:15 amThere exists somewhere a big imaginary book of mafia. When players are good enough, they get a chance to write a chapter of the book. In some footnotes, you will find clear references to mechanical discussion being a scumtell. I do not know what to tell you beyond this. I am not the one who decides what are and aren't considered scumtells, though I do have a few scumtells of my own that I have not seen other players share.Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:09 am I could use the same logic against you. You have only played a fraction of the amount of mafia games that exist so you can't truly know that mechanical talk is widely considered a scumtell. It might have been from the games you've played but not the many others have.
So basically, trying to say that mechanical talk is a scumtell is bullshit. It's not a universal opinion. I want you to explain to me what really makes mechanical talk a bad thing.
Generally, scum (moreso bad scum than good scum) will struggle to generate content. This is the closest thing you can get to objective in mafia- sort by postcount will almost always win more games than any individual player's reads, it has been tested. As a result of this, scum (moreso bad scum than good scum) will latch onto low-hanging talking points. In mystery games especially, mechanical discussion is inevitable from any alignment, but scum (moreso bad scum than good scum) are happy to engage in this discourse, as it means they don't have to provide fake content.
Happy?
- Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:53 pm
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Funnygurl earlier said that Ted was townish for voting Leetic because the vote was spicy. I like the reasoning. But I don’t like that for 2 reasons:
1) Leetic was one of only four people who had votes already
2) thats it
1) Leetic was one of only four people who had votes already
2) thats it
- Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:27 pm
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I like the argument that spicy voting = town. But I think it’s a little suspicious that 1) voting for Leetic could be considered spicy and 2) she didn’t say anything about me, the other Leetic voter. Unless I missed something.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:05 pmI do not understand what you like and dislike here.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:53 pm Funnygurl earlier said that Ted was townish for voting Leetic because the vote was spicy. I like the reasoning. But I don’t like that for 2 reasons:
1) Leetic was one of only four people who had votes already
2) thats it
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:06 pm
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I liked itts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:20 amThis is the worst post I've read today.Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:19 amFor somebody opposed to mechanics discussions, you're quick to point out mechanics to people like me.ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:16 amNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:19 pm All Role PMs have been sent! It is now D1, which will end at a majority vote or by April 2, 7pm EDT.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:10 pm
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Alternatively, he doesn’t want to back down. I’ve taken some crazy swings at cases against widely read townies before as scum. Easy points and no one seriously thinks you’re trying to lynch the person who’s never getting lynched.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:15 amI think that there has definitely been a general pro Sloonei vibe so I'm inclined to see people suspecting you as town. The mafia would be avoiding fabricating cases on you in this thread state and if you are one, well naturally they're probably not grilling you hard. I'd say that if you are Mafia, Funnygirl might be. But if you are town I'd be inclined to near townlock TS Account based on what you are saying.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:11 amLC and leetic voted for me very early on but I would not say that either of them have sustained any suspicion against me. ts account is the only one who I think has been actively suspicious of me as the day has progressed. Turnip Head briefly mentioned me once or twice but I was unclear where that ended up or how serious the suspicion was.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:01 am Sloonei can you list all the people who have been notably assertive about town reading you vs. those who have been suspecting you?
Just about everyone else has expressed some degree of a town read on me. I don't specifically remember speedchuck or tony having anything to say about little old me.
Drago and funnygurl would be the two most "notably assertive" town reads. Both of them stood up to defend me at various points early on. I've voiced my concerns about funnygurl's handling of me already: she defended me against specific accusations but never provided any independent thoughts on me.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:13 pm
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could be that only I liked ittedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:51 amThis is a horrible post for Epi.Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:19 amFor somebody opposed to mechanics discussions, you're quick to point out mechanics to people like me.ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:16 amNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:19 pm All Role PMs have been sent! It is now D1, which will end at a majority vote or by April 2, 7pm EDT.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:17 pm
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As town during school yeahMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:40 pm I'm going to assume TSP is normally this in the background.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:18 pm
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I’m still catching up but I’m taking my vote of TH. 5 is dangerous in a hammer game.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:19 pm
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I thought I called you scum I’m devastated that that means so little to you.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:24 pm tsp's posts have been forgettable to me but we're on the same wagon so sure i guess i can hold off on reading him for now
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:22 pm
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- Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:23 pm
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You actually can as a mechanics expert I can tell you that claiming might be allowed I don’t rememebr
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:27 pm
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Wasn’t commenting until this point but this is correctMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:00 pmYes he has. LC's made some really high effort analysis. It's totally new LC territory. What game are you reading? Your read on him demonstrates you haven't read the last several pages. Perhaps do so.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:40 pmI dont have any strong wolf reads, but I'm suspicious of lc, leetic, and epi.tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:59 pmWhat are your scum reads and why?
lcs promised a stronger performance and hasn't delivered, instead choosing to quip in thread with a few people. looks more like damage control than a willingness to solve
leetic doesn't look like he's sincerely wolf hunting, still
ive said this before but idk hasn't done much and literally just copied my tsp read
radish looks good I think Ted vs radish is more likely tvt than not
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:31 pm
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It’s definitely not DragoDragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:48 pmThis the dumbest scumtell I've ever seen. When you ignore everything else, it sounds all dandy and all but you do you realize how illogical it is. Did my explanation not add up with the action that I took? I believed that the day was ending soon so the wagons that have only one vote are pointless since they won't be getting lynched. So by staying on those wagons and not touching the leading ones, you keep your hands clean and avoid potential incrimination as what you do in the EoD could hurt you later on. In my effort to not let scum get away like this, I call out those who are on a wagon by themselves and express my desire for them to change their votes. I refuse to let any potential scums stay in a comfort zone and not be challenged. If scum are comfortable how can they make any slips? Now, that doesn't mean I believed that Sloo and Mac were scum(LC yes). I just wanted them getting dirty in case if they were scum, they don't stay comfortable.ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:33 pmWell, there is a chapter or two dedicated to a rather nebulous concept that I have seen various facets of all referenced as "rule of three" or "rule of thirds". For a multitude of complementary reasons, a wolf will list three players (because groups of three are inherently more satisfying), one of which will be a scumbud, two of which will be townies. This scumtell mostly goes over my head on paper, but it is one of those things that you intuitively understand better than one could explain it to you, like WIFOM. It also refers to the tendency to put two thirds of one's scumbuds into their town reads, and one third into their null/scum reads. Googling this concept does not fetch me any suitable results, either. So, in this instance, you calling out three players specifically is slightly more likely to come from scum, and it is likely that exactly one of the three is a scumbud of yours given you are scum.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pmGo ahead.ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:20 pmWould you like me to pull out the big imaginary book of mafia again?
Does that not make sense? How do you look at a supposed "scumtell" and ignore everything that comes alongside with it in order to assert a scum read on a player? That's not fair nor reasonable.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:32 pm
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unfortunately this doesn’t seem like faked logicFunnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:00 pmassociations are important when making reads for me. tsp is voting for leetic. ted and leetic had a little battle and dont look like wolf buddies. sloonei is town reading who tsp is voting for and started doing so pretty earlyDragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:55 pmWhy do you need the first 3 in order to make a read on tsp?Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:51 pmlike, what is leetics alignment? what about ted? what about sloonei who likes leetic? who will tsp spar with in thread?Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:50 pmWhat kinds info?Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:43 pmbecause right now we're agreeing on something and I'd prefer to wait for more information. like, guys...Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:25 pmYou don't want to read tsp because he's voting for someone you're voting. I want to find out as to why that should stop you.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm ... am I speaking english or what y'all? what is the difference between what I have said about TSP and what epi said? rn its just the person who said it.
none of these could definitively solve tsp, but it helps
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:33 pm
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MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:36 pm I am officially vetoing Long Con suspicion for the remainder of this day.
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I did that’s a true true storyMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:24 pmAlright TSP is a wolf. Everyone off the pile.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:23 pmI’ve been taking the maybes and perhapses out of my emails today. It’s an overall problem.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:41 pm
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It’s not that good to be honestEpignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:36 pmWhat is?speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:43 pmThis is the best terminology to come out of a mafia game ever.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:44 pmIn other words Dragomir doesn't care about the roof.ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:11 pmTownies usually have preferred outcomes and push toward those, whereas Dragomir's tone is the inverse and seems to be guiding people away from their unfavorable outcomes. It is something either alignment could do, but here I am leaning it wolf.Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:07 pmWhat's wrong with wanting that? Civilians should want that.ts account wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:39 pm Right now the way you are behaving gives me the sense you want to be in control for the EOD, and all I can say is that does not make me feel so good about you. I do not think I would hang you today, however.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:44 pm
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Okay it’s not Sloonei, LC, Drago, TS
Probably not Mac, Epi, MR, FG
Could be Leetic, Speed, Ted, TH
rainbow
Probably not Mac, Epi, MR, FG
Could be Leetic, Speed, Ted, TH
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- Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:46 pm
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One time Mac said I was the towniest person in the game then that I was scum and he knew it all along and built a case and then that I was town and anyone voting for me didn’t want to win in the span of two hours. We were both scum.Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:42 pmtown points. wolf wouldn't wanna go for being obviously inconsistentMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:40 pmI changed my mind.Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:39 pmLiterally what the fuck dude?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:30 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
He's obviously a wolf. TSP is also. I'd say the third one is Sloonei. Wrap it up.
- Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:25 pm
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also what did I say?Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:14 pmI don't recall you ever following up on this tsp thought. Did something change for you on him?ts account wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:38 pm I have a soft mindmeld with leetic re: sloonei. However, I'm more suspicious of it because I do not think speculation of sloonei's nature is pro-town in any way. Since it is early enough in the game, this read is more of a town read on leetic than a condemnation of sloonei. I also want to point out TonyStarkPrime's callout of LongCon (and sloonei's somewhat, but Tony was not involved before this) which I think is not justified.
I can't make any more judgements until RVS is over, which is hopefully soon.
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- Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:27 pm
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oh that was page 1TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:25 pmalso what did I say?Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:14 pmI don't recall you ever following up on this tsp thought. Did something change for you on him?ts account wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:38 pm I have a soft mindmeld with leetic re: sloonei. However, I'm more suspicious of it because I do not think speculation of sloonei's nature is pro-town in any way. Since it is early enough in the game, this read is more of a town read on leetic than a condemnation of sloonei. I also want to point out TonyStarkPrime's callout of LongCon (and sloonei's somewhat, but Tony was not involved before this) which I think is not justified.
I can't make any more judgements until RVS is over, which is hopefully soon.
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- Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:58 pm
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I was confused about what TS saidDragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:28 pmWdym?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:25 pmalso what did I say?Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:14 pmI don't recall you ever following up on this tsp thought. Did something change for you on him?ts account wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:38 pm I have a soft mindmeld with leetic re: sloonei. However, I'm more suspicious of it because I do not think speculation of sloonei's nature is pro-town in any way. Since it is early enough in the game, this read is more of a town read on leetic than a condemnation of sloonei. I also want to point out TonyStarkPrime's callout of LongCon (and sloonei's somewhat, but Tony was not involved before this) which I think is not justified.
I can't make any more judgements until RVS is over, which is hopefully soon.
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- Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:13 am
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LC probably town.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:01 am @leetic how do you feel about Long Con and Master Radishes?
@TonyStarkPrime same question?
And how do you two feel about one another?
No thoughts on Radishes.
Leetic probably scum.
- Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:14 am
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LC probably town.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:01 am @leetic how do you feel about Long Con and Master Radishes?
@TonyStarkPrime same question?
And how do you two feel about one another?
No thoughts on Radishes.
Leetic probably scum.
- Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:20 am
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Leetic is putting in real work here.
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- Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:38 am
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This is something I have a game problem with. Every townie has a goal of fulfilling the town win con. 99 percent of the time, that means not getting lynched if you can help it. A lot of us have developed a smooth town meta as to protect ourselves from being nightkilled early or caught too easily as scum.
But there's nothing inherently wrong with working to get town-read as town by doing actual work. The difference between town and scum isn't that only scum wants to be seen as town with.
Besides, wanting to contribute to the game isn't bad. Why would you feel the need to contribute as scum? Because you have an obligation to the team, the same you have as town.
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Drago's still throwing me off. Drago, you have the uncanny ability to show up when you get mentioned in the thread, so can you say something interesting that I can comfortably townread you for?
- Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:27 am
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A mechanics note: discussion post hammer is allowed and the thread will be closed during the night. Therefore, we should lynch someone with some time to spare for debrief.
- Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:25 pm
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I don’t really have a strong read on you, but I maybe chalk that up to unfamiliarity. I don’t think we’ve both been alive in a game for more than two days before.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:21 pm Also,
I'm not personally offended or anything, but really? No read on me? Is it unfamiliarity?
- Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:34 pm
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We get all the time. Extra time after hammer is for discussion.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:32 pmLimited, but not zero. My only strategic input is that I prefer to use up as much of the allotted time as possible.
- Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:52 pm
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I think whoever responded after me was right and I was reading it wrongSloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:36 pmI don't think this is true. Where are you getting it?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:34 pmWe get all the time. Extra time after hammer is for discussion.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:32 pmLimited, but not zero. My only strategic input is that I prefer to use up as much of the allotted time as possible.
- Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:22 am
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It does tell us that the mafia team isn’t comprised of the people who were trying to convince us that Drago was clearly scum
- Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:14 pm
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All the more reason why he wouldn’t do it, I feelEpignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:49 amOr Long Con is mafia and just hosted a game where a civilian threw it and he's well aware of that recency bias.Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:46 pmListen punk, I'm the one who asks questions here!
I am of two minds.
Scenario 1) The mafia team had no preference over who was lynched and was content to let two civilians face the coin flip of destiny. I've never seen a tie where things were so stagnant. Long Con's self-vote made it 4 to 4 several minutes ahead of the deadline, and then nobody else moved. Lots of people were around, but the leetic camp was entrenched on leetic, and the LC camp was entrenched on LC (and the TH/non-committed camp was farting around like losers). Mafia members have no reason to stick their necks out to determine one lynch or another when either one will do just fine.
Scenario 2) Long Con is mafia. This one comes with a couple other variables, none of which I'd bank on.
- 2.1) Long Con is mafia, his self-vote put his partners in a very awkward position wherein they need to leap to save him. Long Con is an experienced and adept mafia player. He knows better than to do that to his partners.
Scenario 3, I guess, is that no mafia members were present at the end of the day with the potential exception of Long Con. Why he'd endanger himself like that, I cannot say.
- 2.2) Long Con is mafia, but his team possesses some sort of mechanic which would have prevented him from being lynched yesterday (maybe they control a tiebreaker, maybe they have a member with a vote addition/subtraction power, etc.). This is baseless speculation. I cannot assert it with any confidence.
I have more confidence in scenario 1 than anything else.
- Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:20 pm
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This gets on what Epi was saying. LC was there when G-Man self voted, he knows if he’s town and dies he’s getting shredded. If LC has a negative vote it would make sense as town or scum.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:12 pm I'm not caught up but I'm kinda surprised I would need to quantify that self-voting is scummy. Especially in a close situation like this. Does self-voting accomplish anything other than gambling for town cred?
- Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:21 am
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Radish townTurnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:40 am I think we lost our momentum after the weird end to the lynch and then 24 hours of radio silence.
Something I wanted to mention was TonyStarkPrime, none of us have discussed him. He was around at the end of the lynch but most of his contributions were about the hammer. Not much actual gamesolving from TSP yet which is quite different from what I remember in GoC where he was flinging out reads with a high degree of proficiency. He was never the loudest voice in the room in that game, but he did enough for other towns to know he was there and doing his best.
Sloonei town
Ted town
Mikey town
Mac town
Turnip borderline
Epi borderline
Whoever I missed probably borderline
Speed scum
FG scum
Nutella scum
- Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:24 am
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Long Con. My gut read on LC is town, but one off post and I could switch on this very quickly. My guess is that there’s some sort of power that caused the self vote. I think scum gambling for town credit is marginally more likely in the non powered variants.
- Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:17 pm
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I’ve been holding up the relevant gifLong Con wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:40 amI hear he's into Life brand cereal.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:32 am Does anyone have an opinion on Mikey they'd like to share? Also Mac's vote for speedchuck feels phoned it but I was townreading him aside from that
- Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:24 pm
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You were the last name on probably not scum. I inherited a town read on Ted from his townmates. It’s not Leetic. I’ve read TH higher. WelcOme to the scum sideFunnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:33 pmhow did i go from probably not scum to scum?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:44 pm Okay it’s not Sloonei, LC, Drago, TS
Probably not Mac, Epi, MR, FG
Could be Leetic, Speed, Ted, TH
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