The Syndicate

just listened to ok computer. it's decent. not sure what all the hype is about tbh. it's too gloomy and lacks dynamics and all that

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:34 pm NOTE:

There is no majority chop in this game. All voting will be plurality- and deadline-based.

no one will ever make this mistake again

this isn't like the postal service album or licensed to ill or anything I dramatically dislike. It's just. fine.

there are two numbers in this game and they're seperated by one digit. don't like that. possible w/w?

I’m not sure that my animal is a real thing. Currently consulting the wikipedia

anyways, hardclaim cop. Day 0 - 112 is a wolf.

I think carotte is reasonably a decent wolf buddy.

Someone's going to accuse me of playing too light to try to replicate myself and they're wrong

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:35 pm what is 112's wolf meta?

this probably

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:49 pm ColinIsCool have you played with tutuu before? How can you scumread her, she's like flowing town pureness for anyone that played with her before. Same goes for TenThousandCalories.

Alternatively:

Have we ever seen tutuu roll wolf?

Tutuu just tell me what you think about Nanook and if you think he’s town we’ll kill him

I don’t like meta as a tell but also our crowd of people who have lock towned themself in every game eight times in a row or whatever need to have that first scum game where they wow everyone with their capabilities and never get lock towned again

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:33 pm
Amy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:30 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:28 pm i have no reason not to townread joseph now with amy reversing her read. pretty sure when someone is consensus townread by so much ppl they're spewed town by the thread itself. both correctly townread by towns and a bunch of wolves TMIng
i don't think i ever reversed my read? my townread on mac is like... the only thing i've actually explained in-depth itg lol
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Amy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:12 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:37 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:21 pm broseph is lock maf for lock towning me for complimenting nickelback
I didn't lock town you because you complimented nickelback

I lock towned you because you gave zero fucks about how much you'd trigger people for complimenting nickelback
I think this is a lightly villagery Mac post.

This is borrowed meta, but: I remember early in Pyre DVC it was posited that Mac could be read off his general approach to the game; I believe the exact wording was that wolf!Mac "acts like an entertainer rather than a player". I'm ALSO aware that this is somewhat incorrect, and that Mac can easily be a performative shitposter as a villager, too.

However, consider: this is actually a somewhat nuanced read from Mac below the surface nonseriousness of it, and the super casual delivery of it makes it seem like it's no big deal. I suspect that the ACTUAL Mac meta difference is that a shitposty wolf!Mac has a lot more trouble making this read, or at least struggles to make it feel as naturally delivered as it does here.

I maybe also lean v on Urist for his half of the interaction, though I'm less confident there.

Think this probably meets my quota of giving a shit for Day 0 but we'll see.

amy would u believe me if i said i misread this post and i thought it said "wolfy" and not "villagery" and i spent the entire day 0 thinking u have him as a scumread, i even referenced "amy's scumread on joseph" at least 5 times by now. lol

townie tbh

goodness apparently it's death, taxes, and tsp forcing izzet in draft and going 0-3

like I don't understand why "oops no creatures" isn't a tier one draft deck every time

Alison wolf for putting Teferi at the top tbh

This is a halfway serious read

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:03 am wait why is TSP voting mac

He’s a wolf

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:03 am have u seen his scum game alison?

i asked u about ur read on him earlier, i only now saw u have him at bottom of ur top townreads.

if i had a townread u i would definitely have him higher. i guess im still tunneling that initial post thingy which i perceived as scum filler. i did like his posts after that.

idk about 112 ive never played with her before nor have i heard of her. i just thought she looked towny. (for the same reasons i listed when i gave the townread)

this interests me for reasons I can’t quite dictate

my determination is that regardless of 112's alignment, one of the people pushing them is a wolf

I've been doing the tbh since I read whatever game boq was in and we all started using it tbh. It's spread over to my real life writing. it's a problem. It really is quite out of character.

I voted for Mac because I thought he was a wolf. I think differently now.

I got a new drum set today. Have been making noise. Will continue to make noise for a while. Ping me with questions.

i have zero wim. I have the wil this game.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:32 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:29 pm I've been doing the tbh since I read whatever game boq was in and we all started using it tbh. It's spread over to my real life writing. it's a problem. It really is quite out of character.

I voted for Mac because I thought he was a wolf. I think differently now.

I got a new drum set today. Have been making noise. Will continue to make noise for a while. Ping me with questions.
Have you heard any of Radiohead’s other albums?

I listened to Kid A the day after. I liked it a little more but still just fine.

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:38 pm
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112
Voters: nutella, Amy, ColinIsCool

Alison
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, tutuu, Urist

Amy
Voters: Turnip Head

ColinIsCool
Voters: TonyStarkPrime

MacDougall
Voters: protocultures

nutella
Voters: tedxtr

TenThousandCalories
Voters: 112

tutuu
Voters: Alison

Urist
Voters: MacDougall

Why are so many people still on vanity wagons? I'm getting flashbacks to Lion King already. EoD is going to be a shit show.

Ehh feels town

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:50 pm I've been using the phrase "it's unclear to me" a lot in this game I've noticed, and it's probably because a lot of players in this game seem determined to make their play as unclear as inhumanly possible for reasons unknown

linki: exhibit A

As the expert of saying unclear things with unclear reasoning this feels false

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:59 pm tsp's popping in to change the vote from mac to colin is bad tho

No you

Bottom of page 16, can’t tell if Alison is genuinely frustrated or is a wolf. Some of the stuff seems off but it feels real enough. But emotion is nai, as I’ve recently seen.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:40 am So in the last game I played here, there was a mad scramble to organize at EoD and it allowed mafia to openly make scummy plays. Can we not do that again??

No.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:19 pm Votecount
112 (3): nutella, Amy, ColinIsCool
Alison (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, tutuu
Amy (1): Turnip Head
ColinIsCool (1): TonyStarkPrime
MacDougall (2): protocultures, tedxtr
Turnip Head/DrWilgy (3): 112, Alison, Urist
Urist (1): MacDougall

112 & Alison voting Turnip Head together is making me shiver. Could it be w/w? hmmn maybe.

Probably not. In fact, I’d be willing to draw the opposite conclusion

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:01 pm
protocultures wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:28 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:44 pm My final post for today

tutuu = town
amy = town
mcdougall = town
carotte = town
urist = town
tonystark = town

112 = probably town
protocultures = probably town
tedxtr = probably town
turnip head = probably town

nanook = honestly idk, but if alison maf he def town
10k calories = lol

colin = probably mafia
alison = mafia
nutella = mafia

eod is 3 am my time maybe ill swing in to vote but not guaranteed
RIP

If I had a town circle, it wants to eat itself.

Anyone fancy joining a town circle of something like:

proto
alison
nutella
TSP
amy

anyone at all?
only if we kick TSP out of the circle first

no

wait alison is scumreading me?

protocultures wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:52 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:45 pm wait alison is scumreading me?
I didnt realise that either.

TSP - you saying "no" is re kicking you out, or my proposed town circle?

re kicking me out

DEAD AIR DEAD VILAGER DIAED AIR DEAD Vlasti

I agree with the current thread state and have nothing else to offer

I am town. There are too many posts in this game.

Also I hardclaimed cop and got 112

now who bussed 112

I'm going to arbitrarily say it's Mac

mac is a wolf because he only wolf reads me when he's a wolf
town mac knows I'm always town

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:49 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:48 pm mac is a wolf because he only wolf reads me when he's a wolf
town mac knows I'm always town
You went from great at mafia to bad at Mafia so fast lol

it's the school year again I'm back on break.
But seriously I think you read me pretty well. And it doesn't come up often, but I think these sporadic pushes from you are wolfier than not.

So two roads diverged here, let's think about them. There are significant game state reasons to think that the push on Alison was largely driven as a counter wagon, at least to some people. Mac expressed a view that the wolves weren't in control on day 1, and that seems to be accurate with the way in which the thread meandered into a 112 chop. The close vote count makes it more likely that it wasn't a huge pile on and decreases the likelihood of bussing for similar reasons.

However, as I expressed mid day yesterday, 112 seemed resigned -- at that point in scum chat, you tell your threadmates to pull the trigger. I think that makes it fairly likely that one or both members of the wolf team bussed, that the Alison wagon was more town pushed than not. We'd be looking then for the third or fourth on the 112 wagon, but you'd expect them to have come on pretty strongly if possible -- if the team weren't actually doing nothing.

112 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:05 pm i can't into these meta discussions but do agree alison looks nitpicky/is forming complex reads out of very little information. although i think that's a towny trait more often than not.

something to think about. this is the last post "of substance" in 112's iso. Even this seems resigned. I think one team member would be already hammering away.

I don't think it's mac though

posting my "this is the person who was bussing 112" read at 10:30 est stay tuned

Amy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:41 pm i think i still like voting 112 well enough? mostly for monte diamond reasons. think she falls into the "doesn't care, acts like she does" side of the diamond

...i wrote the above and then realized what website i'm on

this is the monte diamond:

I thought the monte diamond was a SB meme tbh

it's amy amy's the wolf

Amy's push on 112 might be twtbaw but I'm not sure if twtbaw is really a real thing

alison being mafia is just a weird one but it seems unlikely in all cases. that 112 post I just cited wouldn't exist

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:29 pm
Amy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:36 pm Okay let's talk about TSP
don't think he busses 112 there tbh

that's most of why he's not in my PoE rn
why doesn't TSP bus 112 there?

the question isn't why doesn't he, he does. we all know this. the question to be answered is "how do we know he didn't"

protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:35 pm Does anyone have a screenshot of votes from EOD?

My vote looks good. Cool.

Quick thoughts.

Mac pushing a world where I bus pings me. Mac has no reason to think I have a bus meta as mafia. If anything I have anti bus meta from the games we have played together. I will absolutely fake claim to save a partner rather than vote on them for credit.

Hard world where Alison AND 112 are mafia can exist. I'm okay just losing to that world Vs being paranoid of it all game.

Random thought re Nutella kill. I think tutuu just hard vetos this kill in night chat. Any thoughts on that angle?

Also how does my proposed town circle before end of day 1 look now?

no never give up. never give up on the "town is too good" line either it feels bad. SI-ish

4 votes have by now materialized on Urist

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