The Syndicate

I have a role that can kill Long Con at any time

Can I claim and or post in the thread

Yes I can do both okay

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:58 am I'm pretty sure I have to wake up to catch at least 10-15 pages. Smh.

Looks like a no

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:58 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:53 pm Cue Epignosis adverb tell
What would people with poor grammar do here exactly?

Die

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:44 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:40 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:27 pm People have squinted at me for saying that I have "genuine" reads in the past, as if every read I share as town is supposed to be genuine.

So with that in mind, here's a read of unknown sincerity:

Vulgard is mafia.
I can see it. Pre-slank excuse, mech chatter, and bland greetings.
I could see Vulgard being scum but mostly because their posting looks kinda carefully controlled to be as inoffensive and trigger people's scumdars as little as possible. I had a confused reaction to that mechanic as well so I don't blame them for the mech chatter, and I think pre-slank excuses are NAI. There are very few people (in general, but especially on the Syndicate) who roll scum and then go "alright! I'm going to go and give an excuse so I can coast through D1!" Not only is this just uncommon behavior, it's also suboptimal - you allow yourself to engage in some anti-town behavior, but in exchange you lose a lot of ability to gain trust and manipulate the town. Syndicate is not a site that is afraid to exe slankers and you will win a lot more games by powerwolfing than coasting.

Maphia

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:55 pm I'm going to do a host read here and say they'll rejoin us after N1 at the very latest. Having people sign up for your game and then be unable to do anything is pretty lame.

Eh, I wouldn’t trust this host read. LC and Jay only made one appearance in AC mafia.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:01 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:42 pm @nutella you were one of the out-of-thread demi-gods in Assassin's Creed. What can you tell us about that experience?
I don't remember a ton of detail but we had a discord, we could read the thread and discuss our thoughts, and we had daily choices on smaller or larger ways to influence the game (such as giving a certain player a power buff or something) and then a few phases in we entered the thread for a day and helped town solve the game and then left again

Sloonei must’ve missed the memo

Cue someone scumreading me for too many references to AC mafia in 3... 2...

Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:10 pm Not really feeling Funnygurl's posts either. They feel too shitposty. Like, not in a way that comes from town. Does she always do that?

I’ve had this read about 5 times and it’s not been correct yet

Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:23 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:12 pm
Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:09 pm [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

I checked again and they have done nothing within their five posts. These posts were all spent on talking about themselves, their first post was a comment about the OP (which is not really game-related and is unlikely to out you as mafia when you talk about it as mafia), and they come across as trying to seem relaxed in the thread. Which is probably why they are spending so much time on "settling in."

I liked nutella's start, but I have some respect for their wolfgame, so I'm not going to pull an Alison and make a weakly supported solid townread on her out of nowhere.
what kind of opportunistic hogwash is this

Of course my posts are going to talk about me when I was responding to someone specifically asking me about my play style. Bro what
I also seem to recall Alison doing something similar. What stopped you from calling her comment "opportunistic hogwash?"

Early bird gets the tr

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:34 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:24 pm
Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:22 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:14 pm actually my first real read is that vulgard is fishing 'cause look at their read on alison too

you're gonna need more to catch alison as a wolf she's a goat
What do you mean by "fishing?"
And I don't know that. I haven't seen Alison play at all.
"i don't like this entrance" "i don't like that entrance" "i don't like that read" when we're at rvs stage

it looks like you're trying to form reads and give an appearance of wolf hunting when a) it ain't really the time for it and b) your suspicions are of little substance atm
Yeah I feel like Vulgard's takes have come off too strong for how shallow they are

Ironically he made a joke about this

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:40 pm I mean like, calling FG out for being a memey person is not a valid suspicion

Yes it is

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:52 pm How about "How many of the people outside of the thread are Mafia?"

Maybe a town question but maybe too obvious

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:30 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:42 pm @nutella you were one of the out-of-thread demi-gods in Assassin's Creed. What can you tell us about that experience?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:45 pm What do you mean by “theory meta”?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:19 pm @TonyStarkPrime @Poison what are your thoughts on this game's version of Vulgard compared to the version you saw in the previous game?
I lean scum on Sloonei right now because these questions don't feel like they have any solving intention behind them. They're just filling out his post count. The first one especially rubs me the wrong way.

Now /this one’s/ not a valid read

Though

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:15 pm Vulgard: eggs that are like three weeks old but still totally fine because eggs last a while
Alison: chicken breast
Sloonei: bell pepper (closest thing to paprika that would be in a fridge. or I guess maybe leftover paprikash or goulash)
Long Con: maple syrup
nutella: doesn't belong in the fridge. but could also be ice cream in the freezer
MacDougall: haha vegemite haha i'm being real unoriginal. or maybe sausage
Funnygurl555: well she used to be baby carrots but i think shes like a spicy chipotle hummus to go with the carrots
Marmot: Oregon marionberry jam
Syn: dried out day old tim hortons donut
TonyStarkPrime: honey mustard
Poison: chocolate milk
Enrique: scallions

And the ppl not in the thread are not in the fridge but in the cupboard
Hyena: caramel popcorn
Quin: cinnamon
Trustworthy Liberal: seaweed snacks
Turnip Head: well...duh

What the hell honey mustard

Nutella is lock town for a Ran read reason

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:35 pm So um, I'm town and I think I'm the only one.

That’s two

Mac came into the game and said that people were towny which is the opposite of reality

So much talk about Vul, but one thing’s missing.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:13 am So much talk about Vul, but one thing’s missing.

Sloonei asked me what I thought of Vul more broadly, the answer is not much. I had the advantage of knowing Vul’s alignment the first time. But he threw out strong reads early and SRed me for the same reasons. The vote on Syn pings me for level 1 reasons, but he seems the same outside of the above factor.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:25 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:12 am Mac came into the game and said that people were towny which is the opposite of reality
Who's scummy?

Everyone besides Nutella and Marmot

I can run down the list if you want me to

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:30 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:27 am I can run down the list if you want me to

From memory:

You asked me about a three poster and also asked a weird setup question which I told LC was a bad read but specifically those questions
Alison made a long post early that I thought fit in her meta but felt off — too long for its purpose, Alison is efficient. I quoted it. Other early reads from Alison feel similar
FG, well FG actually townslipped iirc
Mac said everyone was town and then accepted LC’s positioning dance
LC called you out for the questions, did the thing with Mac, is LC
Vul has like 10 posts
Poison feels a little stilted and said that you had god reads which felt weird
Enrique I don’t know Enrique didn’t do anything wrong really
And I think that’s it?

Oh and Syn. Syn didn’t do anything wrong either that I remember

But not doing anything wrong is a scum tell and I’m not even exactly joking

The problem is just that all of your scum tells aren't town tell scum tells.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:32 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:36 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:45 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:43 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:42 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:01 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:42 pm @nutella you were one of the out-of-thread demi-gods in Assassin's Creed. What can you tell us about that experience?
I don't remember a ton of detail but we had a discord, we could read the thread and discuss our thoughts, and we had daily choices on smaller or larger ways to influence the game (such as giving a certain player a power buff or something) and then a few phases in we entered the thread for a day and helped town solve the game and then left again
Could you guys do anything with the lynch or anything destructive from there?
I really don't remember sorry lol
You guys gave me a golden apple or something and I forget what that did, but it was something positive, and then I think you could vote on the day you were in the thread?

This was the game where LC self-voted for no reason and that confused me so much that I let him win at F3.
I'mma follow LC on the self-vote.
That's a late follow.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:52 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:55 pm I'm going to do a host read here and say they'll rejoin us after N1 at the very latest. Having people sign up for your game and then be unable to do anything is pretty lame.
Eh, I wouldn’t trust this host read. LC and Jay only made one appearance in AC mafia.
This is not true.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:03 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:30 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:42 pm @nutella you were one of the out-of-thread demi-gods in Assassin's Creed. What can you tell us about that experience?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:45 pm What do you mean by “theory meta”?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:19 pm @TonyStarkPrime @Poison what are your thoughts on this game's version of Vulgard compared to the version you saw in the previous game?
I lean scum on Sloonei right now because these questions don't feel like they have any solving intention behind them. They're just filling out his post count. The first one especially rubs me the wrong way.
Now /this one’s/ not a valid read
Hey, that's mean and not true.

Oops nutella and Jay. LC made several hundred appearances.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:27 am TSP's reads are so off kilter that I suspect he's trying to replicate his "crazy stream of consciousness" town playstyle. I'm not feeling the townread on him and I think "everyone is scum" is a pretty lazy way of looking at this gamestate tbh.

Mac says they’re not reads they’re just comments, which is more or less accurate, but it means that then being off kilter is a ? Also, I have like three town reads. And we’re six hours into day 1.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:56 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:50 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:44 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:40 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:27 pm People have squinted at me for saying that I have "genuine" reads in the past, as if every read I share as town is supposed to be genuine.

So with that in mind, here's a read of unknown sincerity:

Vulgard is mafia.
I can see it. Pre-slank excuse, mech chatter, and bland greetings.
I could see Vulgard being scum but mostly because their posting looks kinda carefully controlled to be as inoffensive and trigger people's scumdars as little as possible. I had a confused reaction to that mechanic as well so I don't blame them for the mech chatter, and I think pre-slank excuses are NAI. There are very few people (in general, but especially on the Syndicate) who roll scum and then go "alright! I'm going to go and give an excuse so I can coast through D1!" Not only is this just uncommon behavior, it's also suboptimal - you allow yourself to engage in some anti-town behavior, but in exchange you lose a lot of ability to gain trust and manipulate the town. Syndicate is not a site that is afraid to exe slankers and you will win a lot more games by powerwolfing than coasting.
Maphia
Is this a real suspicion on Alison?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:56 am
Vulgard wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:10 pm Not really feeling Funnygurl's posts either. They feel too shitposty. Like, not in a way that comes from town. Does she always do that?
I’ve had this read about 5 times and it’s not been correct yet

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:00 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:40 pm I mean like, calling FG out for being a memey person is not a valid suspicion
Yes it is
So is FG's behaviour wolfy or not? What's up with the contradiction?

It’s a real suspicion on Alison. FG’s behavior isn’t out of line for FG, but it’s reasonable for Vul to think it is. I SRed FG for the same thing the first time I played with them; we were both town.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:18 am [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

??

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:03 am First five times, yeah?

Well all the times we’ve played

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:16 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:43 pm I have a role that can kill Long Con at any time
Him specifically?

Reference to previous game

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:26 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:26 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:25 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:12 am Mac came into the game and said that people were towny which is the opposite of reality
Who's scummy?
Everyone besides Nutella and Marmot
Why not nutella?

Nutella towncleared herself on page 6

You’re asking a lot from me

Anyways, by my records, I’ve played three games with FG.

viewtopic.php?f=106&t=1892

You were in this one and I said nothing about FG.

viewtopic.php?f=42&t=1867

You were in this one and I said /a lot/ about FG, treating her as a wolf until the game ended.

And the third one is a turbo which was lost because I voted for FG over Sloonei

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:12 am Scum read on the forced aloof play from Tony.

??

Is this about the Nutella thing

LC what do you think about sloonei

I should have checked the vote count before asking that question

Now this is going to seem opportunistic

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:38 am #124 This is not alignment indicative for me, I always do this.

#153 Mostly the posts about me.

#165 Very aubergine.

I honestly don’t understand what’s happening in the thread. It feels like everyone is just doing their own thing (e.g. shitposting / talking about out-of-game stuff). Which is not exactly unusual, but it makes it hard to find mafia.

Alison has really, really leveled up since I first expressed my dislike of her posts. I currently think she’s way more likely town than I did before.

Poison is weird this game. She seems a bit… muted. The preflip in post #299 is also very, very odd. It seems to imply that Syn is town and one of me/Alison is mafia voting Syn, which is a bold assumption to make and possibly indicative of TMI. I know it is thrown out as some kind of “hot take,” but it still feels awful to me.

Marmot’s first post is kinda towny, but my snapreads are legendarily bad, so I won’t rely on them too much.

#345 I literally caught you on that last game.

#350 Is another one of Syn’s takes which I hate. What do you mean, “town for flooding?”

I like what Tony’s doing.

I also think Mac’s towny. Can’t really explain why, though.

I think I’m sitting on something like Sloonei, Mac, TSP, Alison town, Poison and Syn sketchy. Marmot maybe town based on a snapread.

This is... certainly bold

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:42 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:38 am Now this is going to seem opportunistic
No, it seems like you're skimming the thread in order to generate "look, I'm participating" talking points, but not really reading that closely, or trying to remember what you read.

Going out for a few hours. I have an image transfer class.

This was in reference to me asking you a question but I think I’m reading pretty well

Where is Vul and where is Arete to tell me things about Vul

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:52 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:01 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:27 am TSP's reads are so off kilter that I suspect he's trying to replicate his "crazy stream of consciousness" town playstyle. I'm not feeling the townread on him and I think "everyone is scum" is a pretty lazy way of looking at this gamestate tbh.
Mac says they’re not reads they’re just comments, which is more or less accurate, but it means that then being off kilter is a ? Also, I have like three town reads. And we’re six hours into day 1.
24 hours + something sir!

Day’s 48 hours, ends 4 on Sunday?

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:57 am EoD at 6:30 am. I'm not even surprised.

Are you in one of those “off a half hour” time zones

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:33 pm anybody else have no idea what people mean by “townslipping” and “townclearing” ?

If someone says something that makes them town and it's like non-game-related or in some other sense less than good information they've townslipped. Nutella and FG have done it. Townclearing is probably the act of finding people town.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:25 pm @TonyStarkPrime your reads so far seem to be going a bit against the grain. Does this matter or mean anything to you?

I don’t think there’s an established grain. I don’t think my reads go against any grain that could be established, except for TRing the Marmot who has two votes right now.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:45 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:41 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:25 pm @TonyStarkPrime your reads so far seem to be going a bit against the grain. Does this matter or mean anything to you?
I don’t think there’s an established grain. I don’t think my reads go against any grain that could be established, except for TRing the Marmot who has two votes right now.
You stated pretty soon after your arrival that no one has been towny/nearly everyone has been scummy. That's against the grain.

One of marmot's two votes is a self-vote. I wouldn't call a townread on him "against the grain."

Is it against the grain to not have a huge list of TRs? I think most people are in the same place I'm in, just expressed differently.

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