The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:11 pm Is anyone fucking reading my shit or should I just go watch football?

I am reading it but if you wanna watch football go for it.

(American or actual football)

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:13 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:46 pm Also I guess I should ask how does this cite treat neutral wining. Do they have to survive a certikn amount of time? When they win does everyone else lose? Like what are we looking at in this department?
This is all role dependent

If I had to guess a game of this size is probably a “has to kill a certain percentage/amount of the player base by the end of game to win” or it’s “kill certain player roles”

It could also very well may be last man standing

Okay with the kill so many do you think it's game over or just they won now town and mafia still have to fight.

My homesite uses the later so always have to make sure what others use

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:16 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:11 pm Is anyone fucking reading my shit or should I just go watch football?
I am reading it but if you wanna watch football go for it.

(American or actual football)
NFL Niners vs. Hawks.

I'd say take a break and enjoy a game the games still got time.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:39 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:37 pm It was really nasty. I was involved. It was mean. Evestar was incredibly mean to me.
Jesus, sorry it sounds awful. No need to reproduce it in this thread I will trust you and sprityo that they can't be aligned.

I will as well please if it was bad don't post here. I'll trust your guys judgement

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:41 pm I want INPUTTTTTTTTTT

TL I see you’re here thoughts on Epi scum?

I think it works is possible would like to see their votes lined up to flipped scum to be sure but wouldn't be a bad kill today honestly.

Also more likely then Iaafr to me even if I scum read both.

(My current reads are Surprisingly close to Mac's which happens except I slight scum read Long compared to his slight town)

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:44 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:38 pm I’m entertaining your (Dom) idea that epi and rabbit are not on the and team, but epi and pawn are for sure not wolf/wolf so it seems the common link to solving the problem is voting epi?
I'm not sure about Epi whatsoever, though.

I think Pawn, iaafr, and hyena are obvious baddies, though.

I know Pawn is push in other games so I do have to ask is there posts/votes that make you scum read them still seeing them as slight town.

Iaafr seems scumy but feel Epi is more likely

Hyena could see he keeps saying he knows me/what I am but cares not to say which makes me go even more so when he joined voting me.

Would Lynch Hyena most out of the four but epi gives more info

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:39 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:37 pm It was really nasty. I was involved. It was mean. Evestar was incredibly mean to me.
Jesus, sorry it sounds awful. No need to reproduce it in this thread I will trust you and sprityo that they can't be aligned.
I would be incredibly disappointed in Rob if he is aligned with them. It would really be a low rent manipulation technique on me. I don't think he'd be proud of that.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:48 pm Weren't people very suspicious of TL yesterday?
I didn't get it because I haven't read what I missed.

What do people in that camp think today?

Yes looking back there was a push on me every single day going up to ussaly atleast 4 votes not uncommon for me but hopefully not that I've been active and pushing stuff people can see my townyness.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:50 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:36 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:35 pm Or maybe I shouldn't tbh.
So were they at each others throats in a way that couldn't be distancing?
Drago and Evenstar in the early game... did you believe it could be distancing?

As I said before I think it was neither not distancing or anything just was happening if that was and so was the fighting I heard about I will be sad cause that's doesn't seem like a mentally right way to distance persoanly.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:01 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:19 pm TL-- how the hell do you know who killed whom in there?
Tmi

Also cause Radishes basically confessed.

Yeah after I started this rant of kill Radishes they confessed which is nice I guess

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:03 pm Dom’s obviously town. Gj, Jack.

Yeah dom is (for now

)

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:30 pm sprit, I'm cautiously moving you up in my reads.

On the topic of reads Dom may I ask who your top say 4 town are in no particular order or better yet the four people you never Lynch Today?

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:36 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:33 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:30 pm sprit, I'm cautiously moving you up in my reads.
On the topic of reads Dom may I ask who your top say 4 town are in no particular order or better yet the four people you never Lynch Today?
I don't like naming who I think are good.

Fair

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:42 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:32 pm Nothing was optimal about Eva's play, but if Radishes is that bad, why didn't she try and lynch him?
Didn’t she?

Not untill pushed to and then not really hard kept going someone night kill them pretty much claimed Vig and said Radish's would die at night an impossible claim with the situation.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:47 pm My company drank the last of my bourbon though.

That sucks to hear.

And yeah going over reads as of today.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:49 pm In the middle of Mac’s case on Epi, Epi says he would lynch me over Elephant, which is a logical fallacy because

......................I’m unlynchable.

Everytime you say that I want to try you know that right

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:49 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:48 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:47 pm My company drank the last of my bourbon though.
That sucks to hear.

And yeah going over reads as of today.
It's okay. He fixed my guitar. He can have all my bourbon (he's my brother. I'm artistic and he's mechanical. We look alike but have entirely different skills).

Oh fair always nice to have someone around with a different skill set for those situations

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:01 am all y'all married and i will continue to sit here like a potato.

Hey I know atleast some people here arn't married.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:11 am I'm just tired and have to work tomorrow. My strength is finite.

Don't worry i get it not off till 10 tonight (2 hours) and work again at 5am so slowing down alittle don't wear yourself out Epi

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:13 am There are sixteen people left. I assume two more mafia members remain. Assuming 2.5 deaths per phase, there are five lynches available.

My math is probably shite, but there you are.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:13 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:13 am There are sixteen people left. I assume two more mafia members remain. Assuming 2.5 deaths per phase, there are five lynches available.

My math is probably shite, but there you are.

Has to be three due to OP three more roles not accounted for

So I came baxk to clarify we should specifying should cause two cleans by two cops were at tye start of this ame one N0 and another full wanted to say make sure to have an accurate reads chart for that please cop so if you die we get the info since you can't claim it.

iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:37 am wait but why isnt he mad off of not getting an answer the followup doesnt quite make sense

also vanity sussed him

Thr anwser u got back was i was most likely right due to Radishes putting themselves and that to stop pushing the 3P.

iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:07 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:15 am @Long Con @MacDougall @112 @coliniscool @Quin @lady lambdadelta @Jackofhearts2005 @sprityo @Trustworthy Liberal @Dom @Epignosis

are you guys up for a hyena wagon today hes really scummy and pushed vanity and nutella and like actually no scum except drago which fits with the whole "get cred, use it" idea evenstar got from lld's guide

i think
@Long Con @MacDougall @112 @coliniscool @Quin @lady lambdadelta @Jackofhearts2005 @sprityo @Trustworthy Liberal @Dom @Epignosis

please disregard i no longer confidently sus hyena

Will note this for later was it really the one post that you linked or was there more behind the scenes? Just looking for your total progression.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:58 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:43 am So I came baxk to clarify we should specifying should cause two cleans by two cops were at tye start of this ame one N0 and another full wanted to say make sure to have an accurate reads chart for that please cop so if you die we get the info since you can't claim it.
Can you restate this please? I don't get your meaning.

Cops if all leave clear evidence of checks for their flip.

Don't wanna clear someone wrongly

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:05 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:35 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:58 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:43 am So I came baxk to clarify we should specifying should cause two cleans by two cops were at tye start of this ame one N0 and another full wanted to say make sure to have an accurate reads chart for that please cop so if you die we get the info since you can't claim it.
Can you restate this please? I don't get your meaning.
Cops if all leave clear evidence of checks for their flip.

Don't wanna clear someone wrongly
I think you’re trying to say that cops should leave evidence of their checked players do that when they die we know who they checked

Am I right?

Yes that sorry tiered as all hell working a double shift still on till 2pst since SoD this day phase

iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:00 am read TL's iso a little closer and uh

why is he so sure the extra kills are 3p and hwy is he so fixated on it

thats pretty scummy shit lmao

Claims to read iso closely but ignores me explaining why three or four times in the same Iso I the same area of posts.

Iaafr after last night and this why should I town read you Mac claims your town for Eve interactions but I think the only one who was cleared 100% by interaction was Michelle but they were night killed.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:17 pm I want to hear more from Trusty Vigeral.

What do you wanna hear exactly was thinking of taking a nap just home now

112 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:28 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:31 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:14 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:20 pm Btw @112 @Pawn Lelouch if you guys wanna come back to that discussion about how much you hated my D2 rainbow now that we know there are probably no townies in Eva, Radishes and Iaafr and now that we know that Nova and DF are town and LC and Juliets are likely town as well...

I’m right here.

Mongrels.
what rainbow?
viewtopic.php?p=562203#p562203

viewtopic.php?p=562290#p562290
nobody you have listed as scum there has even flipped

So can I just say when you link that i can't see it at all.
Most likely Same for people that were on my level.

112 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:30 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:29 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:28 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:31 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:14 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:20 pm Btw @112 @Pawn Lelouch if you guys wanna come back to that discussion about how much you hated my D2 rainbow now that we know there are probably no townies in Eva, Radishes and Iaafr and now that we know that Nova and DF are town and LC and Juliets are likely town as well...

I’m right here.

Mongrels.
what rainbow?
viewtopic.php?p=562203#p562203

viewtopic.php?p=562290#p562290
nobody you have listed as scum there has even flipped
So can I just say when you link that i can't see it at all.
Most likely Same for people that were on my level.
i didn't link it- was quoting jack, who linked

Waa more pointing out i can read links to the other sides as i don't have promisions and was hoping that someone that does could atleast repost the refored to list.

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:08 am wonder how eva died haha

Poison that they may or may not have known about my guess is the neutral has access to the following actions stuff in brackets is possibilities not sure

-Poison a player they will die tomorrow EoD (they won't know they are poisoned).

-Vig a player

-Win Condition: Unknown (might be kill __ amount of players)

I suspect that Poisoning might grant a benefit to them or not cost points or else why would you not just always night kill.
The only reason that the poison/Eve kill isn't Neutral is if Spyrio is actually a Poisoner which is mega unlikely

Also hi i woke up from a nap after Alpha testing home site stuff most Likely will sleep again but will say

Iaafr i do see where your coming from not alot of resistance to your lynch which makes me feel you are likely not scum Town reading Mac and he would be your partner if you were.

Epi i don't know honestly he could very easily be town that Mac is Focused on.

Hyena IDK want to town read but gut keeps saying mafia but specfic plays and wordings make my brain say towny.

Pawn could lynch but think we lose information if town flip accures unless i am missing more from your all adventure to the other forum

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:16 am but michelle liked TL and idk whatever

Alot of people are liking me and its scary i went from Number 1 lynch target to Everyone's best friend doesn't happen much if at all.

BUT its a nice change of pace let me ask what your current thought on me is from you

Also after having finite d a more likely Neutral action list i am okay if we have to let the neutral walk for now but we should keep an eye on them

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

Lady Lambdadelta: hasn't come back today atleast that i saw last post i read from them was when i got really depressed and left the forum for the day phase so Long why specficly are they the vote in your eyes for today?

Quin: Don't have a soild read here part of not being around them as much as everyone else i keep feeling stuck in having to read the people that stayed but everyone can do that while they have way more information then i do big sad

so i am really only able to read hyena, Juliet, Long Con, i thought there was still more wow okay if people think a scum in there least likely to be Juliet in my opinion most likely Long Con. Why do people town read Long Con again?

iaafr
6
26%
Voters: sprityo, Dom, Jackofhearts2005, juliets, Epignosis, ColinIsCool

Is this town voting is my question are people confident in the people pushing this i like 3/6 here dislike 2 and am null on one.
iaafr is still not a town read but how the wagon has gone makes me second guess this.

sprityo
Jackofhearts2005
juliets
Dom
ColinIsCool
Epignosis

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:35 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:16 am
Iaafr i do see where your coming from not alot of resistance to your lynch which makes me feel you are likely not scum Town reading Mac and he would be your partner if you were.

How much resistance would you expect from a largely decimated mafia faction?

I would expect something.
They are hurting and can"t really afford another lose today because of it.
But the person defending Iaafr really is just Mac which doesn't"t seem like the pairing we are fighting.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:32 am What’s the second list?

That list is trusted most to least on the wagon

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:14 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:18 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:16 am but michelle liked TL and idk whatever
Alot of people are liking me and its scary i went from Number 1 lynch target to Everyone's best friend doesn't happen much if at all.

BUT its a nice change of pace let me ask what your current thought on me is from you
i think your focus on mech seems crutchy and im wondering if you have any reads or thoughts on the game that arent predicated on mech

you lean scummy and youre compatible with pawn who found something that made you look good but its not really damning even if pawn flips scum

For the first part to all have Epi and iaafr's days 2-4.

I don't and as such am stuck focusing on different parts I like focusing I mechanicals I this situation they help us know what we are fighting and a way to combat it.

Also pawn isn't the only one that said stuff of mine was good for later records.

Okay starting work be back on me break in 4 hours approximately

Feel no matter what iaafr is the Lynch and not worth just dropping mu vote to but problum being I am going be afk from this point till EoD unless i get off early which is extremely unlikely.

At this point Iaafr I head wagon by alot unless you count the DEAD option.

Neutral can live one more day due to limitation's and a janitor flip would be amazing right now.

Janitor ia very unlikely within the original group so that's a reason to push epi/iaafr by I feel if iaafr was the janitor if they have points they would be getting a better defense so.

Also I feel Dom and Epi could be wolfs together based on their defense for one another just a possiblity I am starting to belive more and more.

Gonna end voting [VOTE: Dom] aubergine actually i think people are clearing of interactions way to fast

Oh shit we are still going I just got off work

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:05 pmpolls closed

Oof guess I'll just start heading home then

Wait there's a tie one of the two dies but can still talk

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:07 pm Guys we should probably not post anymore since the phase should have ended at the time the poll ended. Sorry to be a Debbie Downer.

Stoping and closing site

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:57 pm Or are you saying the only ones who are left alive are Jack and me?

Day 1 EoD Votes

[10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
[3] Evenstar - Texas Cloverleaf, sprityo, Quin
[2] Hyena - Dom, Michelle
[2] No Lynch - iaafr, boo
[1] Epignosis - MacDougall
[1] MacDougall - Dragomir
[1] nutella - Lady LambdaDelta
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - 112

An there are alot of Off wagon voters left alive which i curious makes me feel that ontop of Most likely one of Pawn and Juliet being mafia on Dragomir can't believe with three votes ahead that not a single mafia wanted credit.

As well from my level so far only Elephant has flipped should be atleast 2 from our level meaning one of Juliet or Long Con and people that have played with long con before are saying he is towny SO that leans towards Juliets. Personally believe Long Con is more likely but you all have better meta on both.

So currently Thinking

Mafia 1 of Pairings

Pawn/Juliet
Juliet/Long Con

If you disagree Say so

Also my Vote yesterday was Cause i wouldn't be able to Come back and Honestly thought that i could get some questionable reactions with it was confident it would result in either mine or Dom's death and didn't (not counting night killled)

Didn't get any BIG reactions from it like i was hopeing for more but didn't get any really

But is worth noting that iaafr didn't self pres while being there at the time makes me more confident in them not being wolf not lock town but less likely to be a wolf.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:08 am I hate using that language ("I swear") but I think at this point, I should be cleared based on how Dom was treated. I stood up for Dom. I would not be cool being on a team that acted like that toward him. He talked about this himself.

His flip does help show that and i want to believe a friend wouldn't act that way towards another from what i heard about the situation i would hope NO ONE would act that way towards another person. As i said earlier i can't see what exactly happened due to be limited to just this thread.

Problem i don't think this is evil Mac reminds me of Dan and elbows in game 8 two town death tunneling each other which never ends well.

also a reason both could be left alive is cause you keep pushing each other and might cause a very nice mislynch for Wolf's and there are other people that they can kill in the mean time.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:11 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:10 am Also my Vote yesterday was Cause i wouldn't be able to Come back and Honestly thought that i could get some questionable reactions with it was confident it would result in either mine or Dom's death and didn't (not counting night killled)

Didn't get any BIG reactions from it like i was hopeing for more but didn't get any really

I don't believe you.

Go ahead and not no one seems to care what i have to say about anything this game despite a multitude of reasons to trust me and quite alot of revealed town having called me Town but go ahead and ignore me and cause more mislynchs.

Should have just killed the neutral yesterday.

Also i want to restate this based on how stuff happened i think mafia didn't get to use the janitor while we were seperated and points to them being in the set of people outside of Long/Juliets/Myself

Also due to Vig Shots the Vig has to be withing Long/Juliets/Myself

Strongman we have no exact reason but would guess they are on this lower level while the Goon was up with the janitor cause based off of role flips specific roles went to specific levels not based off of players.

This can be seen By what i was told of Actions costing 1 above and people flipping there having an ODD number of points while people down here that never left had Even.

Examples of each include

Vanity: EVEN
Nanook Ty4on: ODD

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:20 am What's your opinion on MacDougall?

i think Mac is Town and you two are reading each other wrong

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