The Syndicate

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:49 am I don’t town read people based on whether they’ve down well enough, you’re straw manning.

There’s just nothing going on for you. Random votes, no attempt at reading someone. You lynched in my town reads without addressing it at all. Okosan addressed why he thinks I’m wrong on Jack at the very least.

There’s no thought process for me to analyze here.

It’s the 10th time I’m telling you that you aren’t even a scum read / I don’t scum read you, I just town read other people better than you. Stop straw manning that as well.

You’re literally in a box. You not doing anything to get out of it or discuss why other people should be in the box instead of you still keeps you in the box.

You are correct i have done the minimum outwards reading (For a reason this time.)
If you dought me you have the reasons to even more so not having done much to outwards prove it makes sense.
I hope tommorow i can change that for most atleast.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:58 pm A quick glance at Trustworthy Liberal reveals several posts that immediately stand out as positive:

Spoiler: show
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:01 pm So based off how normal games go (Someone correct me if i am wrong)
we will know if this voting causes a Tie and there for would be randomized if that is correct i think the best course of action is to keep a tie (of two votes possible) this should tell us either a voter if Monokuma due to no tie or (with the current wagons) could tell us turnip is Leon.
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:18 pm
Okosan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:16 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:14 pm
Okosan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:13 pm COOO! (There's no reason the bear would want to kill the mafia he makes)
He is on a different team then the mafia to my understanding so why not kill them
Coooo! (He's literally MAKING the mafia. Actually why would he be on a different team? Unless you think he just needs to live until the end or something)
Why else would he have a god dam soup kill that could kill the entire game in one night. What i think is that he wants the minimum amount of people alive at the end of the game.
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:02 pm
Okosan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:41 pm COOOOO? (Also stop town reading Okosan or he's gonna get shot in the night )
Also if i am correct no one dies tonight since no mafia?
All of these posts reflect a player who is actively trying to piece together the puzzle that is this game. That means more to me in this particular game than it normally would, since the setup itself is as great a mystery as player alignments are. This does not look like a player who is anticipating recruitment, which seems to be the implication of Fayt's info.

But all of this is on Day 1.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:07 am The soup kill is a single use or 1-shot from how i read it atleast.
No read here, but I want to ask why this is how you read the soup kill mechanic, TLib? Do others see it that way? This is not how I interpreted it, though I assume (hope) there are some limitations on the soup kill. I just don't see anything to suggest it's 1-shot.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:48 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:37 pm So I'm gonna assume whomever Bearo is, he knows Epi fairly well so I think we can discount the new people there. But, at this point we should have a mafia player to hunt right?
Since there was a night kill last night I belive there are Two mafia currenty on top of Monokuma.
This is also not something that I would be inclined to believe, but I'm interested to hear why the theory exists.
I think this sort of speculation is a good look here. Regardless of whether or not this is accurate, TLib is offering mechanical speculation that is off the beaten path, which lends it the appearance of being genuine. I take that as a good sign. There's no reason for a recruited Liberal to fabricate a theory like this.

I feel good about TLib based on mechanical speculation, but I see very little in the way of reads here. They expressed general agreement with tedxter's POE, but no reason beyond "I trust ted." @Trustworthy Liberal can you share any reads on any other players?
I'd not be inclined to vote for the liberal in this instance.

I am preping for a reread right now to give an read on players.

Also i specutated the soup kill as a 1-shot as i remember it saying that upon it failing it would be stated un thread if it failed at any point in the chain. To me that makes me think One Shot.

I will be reading on phone so will take alittle will look through one at a time and post as i read through their posts.

Rej
Highly dought as N1 Conversion, and Unlikely N2.
If monokuma could recruit last night that is a possibility but am going to assume he was RB'd like everyone else With Lights Out.

Most Likely Town going into N3.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:25 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:19 pm Rej
Highly dought as N1 Conversion, and Unlikely N2.
If monokuma could recruit last night that is a possibility but am going to assume he was RB'd like everyone else With Lights Out.

Most Likely Town going into N3.
Why? I was just ISOing him too and came to the opposite conclusion.

Specficly i am confident in them not being the N1 conversion.
Will clarify to be clear if they were converted it would have been last night possible N0.
(Orginally ment not converted N0-N1)

Of you still disagree please state why while i move forward reading more people.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:34 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:38 pm If you're town, just play for the sake of winning the game for town and not for a potential moment when you'll be converted, please.
I gotta be honest, that's tough. The ability to PM Monokuma is just so... tempting. I could just... tell him my role, and ask for recruitment. Who knows?

BUT I just don't know if that would simply become my disadvantage and downfall. Maybe Monokuma would just save up info for a final glorious Soup Kill, laughing at the fools who tried to sell their souls, and lost everything instead. And that's just the known risk. We don't even know his Win Condition. It might not even be Mafia-aligned, and we, good and evil, are all just pawns.

He is not mafia aligned we know this from earlyier he has a different win condition which is unknown to us.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:35 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:42 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:38 pm If you're town, just play for the sake of winning the game for town and not for a potential moment when you'll be converted, please.
I mean yeah but

There's an invincible unbeatable cult leader

We will all die or be subsumed

We either die town or live long enough to become despair

So how does a townie win? Because 'survive' implies an end to the madness, and I don't see it in the rules yet
How do the students win in the show? DO they win? How does it end?

Major Spoilors

Spoiler: show

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:36 pm TL, is that read from a mechanical standpoint or have you sensed some difference between how he posted N0 to N1? Tbh, we didn't even have N0.

I really like his D1 and believe it is town alignened.
Sadly he has little D2 and even less D3 and would like to see more to compare his now to then.
But don't believe he is currently a convert.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:42 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:25 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:19 pm Rej
Highly dought as N1 Conversion, and Unlikely N2.
If monokuma could recruit last night that is a possibility but am going to assume he was RB'd like everyone else With Lights Out.

Most Likely Town going into N3.
Why? I was just ISOing him too and came to the opposite conclusion.
Specficly i am confident in them not being the N1 conversion.
Will clarify to be clear if they were converted it would have been last night possible N0.
(Orginally ment not converted N0-N1)

Of you still disagree please state why while i move forward reading more people.
I read him as a potential Night 1 recruit. But that is also partially influenced by the vague info Fayt gave us.

Difference is i still am unsure about Fayt so havn't taken their information inti that specfic read. Mainly cause i suspect that cops are likely top conversion targets amd due to the mystery between roles and characters its hard to be Anti Recruitment.

And since Fayt has been in the lower of people reads i have dought that they would be of the Chosen for this.

I hope this makes sense.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:43 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:40 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:36 pm TL, is that read from a mechanical standpoint or have you sensed some difference between how he posted N0 to N1? Tbh, we didn't even have N0.
I really like his D1 and believe it is town alignened.
Sadly he has little D2 and even less D3 and would like to see more to compare his now to then.
But don't believe he is currently a convert.
are we talking about the same Rej?

I think so (If the links are wrong someone tell me)
But i do have a different way of reading people which makes me highly dought his N0 conversion.
And am less likely to Believe him to be a later convert for something specific i have noticed with some people that i would much rather keep hidden for this moment.
(I can talk about it in the day)

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:50 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:46 pm Can you compare his scum game from the Wire to this game and try to associate his mindset from there with his mindset from here? I will check out The Wire for myself to see if I'm following your thought process.
I don't have time for this sort of heavy lifting (I'm about to head out for the evening). But here is his ISO from The Wire.
That is also my most recent scum game, if you want to do a comparison there.

When i get to my computer I'll attempt reading this to see if it helps. Have a good evening.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:52 pm Take this with a grain of salt, I'm purely basing this on common sense, I usually suck with mechanics and setups and role balancing and whatever, but I think I am close to being true when I say that :

The cops are probably immune from conversion, or at the very least, they are immune til like a specific night. Either that, or a role has some sort of "protecting from conversion" mechanic as his role that has to be overpowered, meaning they can target roles with limited shots, or idk.

I think that's the case, because, town can't cooperate through sheer mass claiming and putting the puzzle pieces together, as there's a soup kill. So either cops are overpowered / are immune to being converted or some role's secrets can single-handedly change the outcome of the game.

I have guess the second having just Immunitys would be broken my guess is he have a Doctor and a Anti Conveter either in the same person or seperate.

I am pretty sure its something like Makoto is Immune to Conversions and maybe the player you have (I forget what its called but get to talk to) is conversion Immune you may not talk to the same person twice.

Maybe Sakura is a Doctor/(Don't know what you call it here so a role that choses a player to die in their place.)

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:54 pm I think we can also do some tricks in order to see if some of our roles are alive, for example, some person can claim if they've had BTSC with Naegi lately, so we can see if he's still here, stuff like that. Not sure if it's necessarily productive, but, it seems like some fresh touch. I don't know if it helps with anything though.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:58 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:54 pm I think we can also do some tricks in order to see if some of our roles are alive, for example, some person can claim if they've had BTSC with Naegi lately, so we can see if he's still here, stuff like that. Not sure if it's necessarily productive, but, it seems like some fresh touch. I don't know if it helps with anything though.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:59 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:58 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:54 pm I think we can also do some tricks in order to see if some of our roles are alive, for example, some person can claim if they've had BTSC with Naegi lately, so we can see if he's still here, stuff like that. Not sure if it's necessarily productive, but, it seems like some fresh touch. I don't know if it helps with anything though.

I hate my dog jumped on me when i opened this sorry.

Was going to say i have not be chosen My Naegi on the bases that i am not Naegi.

Fayt wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:26 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:54 pm I think we can also do some tricks in order to see if some of our roles are alive, for example, some person can claim if they've had BTSC with Naegi lately, so we can see if he's still here, stuff like that. Not sure if it's necessarily productive, but, it seems like some fresh touch. I don't know if it helps with anything though.
Isn't that a bit risky to reveal?

Not nessasarily but i do think this is better said in a day period. So we get the most time with information.

But eventually we have to take risks and the mote town bodies that are lynched the more risks that are needed.

Sorry i disappeared currently helping someone new to my homesite with stuff 24/24 is hard to keep up with.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:03 am I encourage Rej votes.

There are some players I would discourage votes against. There are more players I have no clear read on. There's also the problem of new recruits to deal with perpetually.

Okay you have my attention.
are you willing to out information you have then since either your immune to soup kill or will just die to it anyway.

Also when you are skum read by a few people and the attack target it almost seems as if there is a busdriver still alive.
That or i do question the Mafia Kills.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:10 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:06 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:03 am I encourage Rej votes.

There are some players I would discourage votes against. There are more players I have no clear read on. There's also the problem of new recruits to deal with perpetually.
Okay you have my attention.
are you willing to out information you have then since either your immune to soup kill or will just die to it anyway.
Not at the moment. I will if I think it's a good idea.

I'm not clear on whether or not I am still susceptible to the soup kill. I will ask.

This is very fair.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:13 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:12 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:10 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:06 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:03 am I encourage Rej votes.

There are some players I would discourage votes against. There are more players I have no clear read on. There's also the problem of new recruits to deal with perpetually.
Okay you have my attention.
are you willing to out information you have then since either your immune to soup kill or will just die to it anyway.
Not at the moment. I will if I think it's a good idea.

I'm not clear on whether or not I am still susceptible to the soup kill. I will ask.
This is very fair.
How does my flip change your outlook on the game?

Am happy your night killed you were in the bottom half of my reads but that being said i don't wanna go to fair into it but makes me suspect i am off on more then just you. But again why the hell were you killed like seriously there are better options unless....

i think we need to look at the top "town" again and do a day by day thought process on who we trust and distrust.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:21 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:18 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:13 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:12 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:10 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:06 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:03 am I encourage Rej votes.

There are some players I would discourage votes against. There are more players I have no clear read on. There's also the problem of new recruits to deal with perpetually.
Okay you have my attention.
are you willing to out information you have then since either your immune to soup kill or will just die to it anyway.
Not at the moment. I will if I think it's a good idea.

I'm not clear on whether or not I am still susceptible to the soup kill. I will ask.
This is very fair.
How does my flip change your outlook on the game?
Am happy your night killed you were in the bottom half of my reads but that being said i don't wanna go to fair into it but makes me suspect i am off on more then just you. But again why the hell were you killed like seriously there are better options unless....

i think we need to look at the top "town" again and do a day by day thought process on who we trust and distrust.
As a jumping off point, I recommend a trustfall exercise: List a reason or two why you could town-read every player in the game. Then look over the list and identify which of those reasons are the weakest.

okay i'll start with one
Creature/Speed

Yeah that's were i am i do wish there was someway for use to get info out with out dieing and losing the game.

(i am making an actually list now but that's about all i got for creature/speed sadly)

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:28 am Montezuma's soup will not include any paprika.

Okay then any information you have helps us alot. (depending on information)

Answering a few of the last posts.

That is fair suspecting i was Chihiro but if i was i dought i could have not done a role play post or two as them (by far favorite DR1 Character)

Yes Sloonei you were a suspect to me i stated this earlier and i am honestly confused if this was a direct kill. If it was i think it points to Creature as a possible Mafia since you are more likely to have bought a free mislynch. Most likely there was a busdriver the more i think about it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:52 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:50 am Answering a few of the last posts.

That is fair suspecting i was Chihiro but if i was i dought i could have not done a role play post or two as them (by far favorite DR1 Character)

Yes Sloonei you were a suspect to me i stated this earlier and i am honestly confused if this was a direct kill. If it was i think it points to Creature as a possible Mafia since you are more likely to have bought a free mislynch. Most likely there was a busdriver the more i think about it.
Could you explain this Creature theory in more detail? Note that creature is now speedchuck.

Well he is A not posting alot 17 Posts as an example.
he is in the Middle atleast was before the kill for reads.
If you wanted to kill someone Confirmed no protections no redirections that would be my target.
Remembering a new mafia finds out all previous mafia members they wouldn't want to go killing them unless it was extremely needed, it isn't right now. This points in my head to him being a possible earlier conversion and them not wanted killed. (i suspect that it could have been the last conversion that had the kill as well.)

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:54 am My interpretation of the mechanics is that every new recruit performs the kill on the first night they are able. If no recruit happens, then the kill rotates to whichever member of the mafia team has gone the longest without performing a kill. Does anyone have a different interpretation?

That is Correct (going to make sure we are on the same page)
Conversion N2 kills N3

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:57 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:56 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:52 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:50 am Answering a few of the last posts.

That is fair suspecting i was Chihiro but if i was i dought i could have not done a role play post or two as them (by far favorite DR1 Character)

Yes Sloonei you were a suspect to me i stated this earlier and i am honestly confused if this was a direct kill. If it was i think it points to Creature as a possible Mafia since you are more likely to have bought a free mislynch. Most likely there was a busdriver the more i think about it.
Could you explain this Creature theory in more detail? Note that creature is now speedchuck.
Well he is A not posting alot 17 Posts as an example.
he is in the Middle atleast was before the kill for reads.
If you wanted to kill someone Confirmed no protections no redirections that would be my target.
Remembering a new mafia finds out all previous mafia members they wouldn't want to go killing them unless it was extremely needed, it isn't right now. This points in my head to him being a possible earlier conversion and them not wanted killed. (i suspect that it could have been the last conversion that had the kill as well.)
But Creature is no longer playing. Speedchuck replaced him during the night.

Sorry takes time for a me to correctly get the Replacements right just a how i think.
but the same thing can be changed out for Speedchuck being in the same situation.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:04 am I do agree with your theory in general, though, TLib. I'm just not sure which names I'd narrow it down to. If I was the mafia's intended kill, the simplest answer is that they wanted to make sure they wouldn't hit a protected player.

I have to wonder if I count as a successful kill or not...

I would assume yes otherwise that mafia member would be feeling pretty bad.
not anymore though (IE can't be attacked again to count.)

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:31 am I have a theory but I’m waiting for someone to claim rb’d.

We still didn’t learn who was rbed n2. Which is a clue.

I am unsure if i was roleblocked last night of N2.

Also big thing being overlooked is since Monokuma recruits VIA role not player he could complety wif a convert by choseing a dead role.

Also have a feeling Speed was the original target of the attack rather then a redirection.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:04 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:01 am Also big thing being overlooked is since Monokuma recruits VIA role not player he could complety wif a convert by choseing a dead role.
I've been assuming there's a preventative measure against this, but I suppose it's possible.

I would hope not seeing as he also carrys a Soup kill. Atleast that is how i see it as.

Also finding who was targeted by Junko would be extremely hard if the mass Roleblock indeed went off.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:09 am
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:00 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:31 am I have a theory but I’m waiting for someone to claim rb’d.

We still didn’t learn who was rbed n2. Which is a clue.
I am unsure if i was roleblocked last night of N2.

What about N4?

I have not been told i have been roleblocked period.

My action may not give feedback in that way or i might be immune to rb's as fair as you know. Or even better i just havn't been told as of yet.

(I am not confirming which one of these is true to keep my role secret)

Okay i am lost I've gone over the game and am still uncertion on so many facts of this game like i can piece together what roles are from just my knowledge of the game IE what i've been doing all game but currently i like parts of most peoples ISO's.

Every night i hope to see a bad kill from the mafia or a town vig but we haven't seen any which is disappointing in the least.

Don't get me wrong i enjoy the flavor but god are conversions hard to figure out (most likely a thing i'll avoid in the future)

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:59 pm I genuinely have no idea who I would want to lynch.

This is me right now also but you don't have a vote and i do.

this is killing me as i keep thinking we haven't punished a single blackened (Despair.)

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:15 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:03 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:59 pm I genuinely have no idea who I would want to lynch.
This is me right now also but you don't have a vote and i do.

this is killing me as i keep thinking we haven't punished a single blackened (Despair.)
What are the best reasons to town read everybody remaining?

Only some have great but everyone has a towny start to the game in my eyes which makes it harder for me to correctly place when people changed sides since they are more of a neutral then a mafia.

Long Con is someone i would vote out based on today honestly but i keep second guessing my reads because of it being conversions. Arg my brain hurts.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:58 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:56 pm Also why is tony voting for DDL?
Maybe we should all vote for DDL. What if he has only one lynch survival? I mean... that IS a far more common role power than UNLIMITED lynch survival.

It was already said that is wasting your votes this is part of what i dislike you for bringing up not to mention we could very well be a mylo/lylo or what ever it's called.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I might not be able to focus but promoting wasting our votes in this game state isn't a good idea.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:12 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:05 pm I reverse my opinion on Trustworthy Liberal. He bad.
Why?
Looks like a player looking for excuses to vote for people. I asked him to flesh out town reads and he dodged the question, then concocted a reason to put a vote on you.

Or like i said i am having an incredible finding scum in a conversion setting compared to a normal setting.
everyone has generally towny tones which makes this incredible hard to concentrate onto.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:18 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:12 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:05 pm I reverse my opinion on Trustworthy Liberal. He bad.
Why?
Looks like a player looking for excuses to vote for people. I asked him to flesh out town reads and he dodged the question, then concocted a reason to put a vote on you.
Or like i said i am having an incredible finding scum in a conversion setting compared to a normal setting.
everyone has generally towny tones which makes this incredible hard to concentrate onto.
Yeah, well me too dude, and I'm sorry you believe that lynching the baddie recruiter and quasi-overlord is a bad idea, but like you said this is incredibly hard. I'm not recruited though. And I understand that we could end up with a wasted lynch... which would be better than a Civ lynch, and a thousand times worse than a baddie lynch. Let's roll the dice, I guess.

If you are town i am truely sorry but i doubled back on my gut reads on rej and let that lynch happen and he was town so i just have to go for it.
I now understand more then ever that this is extremely scum sidded even if it is thematic.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:27 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:12 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:05 pm I reverse my opinion on Trustworthy Liberal. He bad.
Why?
Looks like a player looking for excuses to vote for people. I asked him to flesh out town reads and he dodged the question, then concocted a reason to put a vote on you.
Or like i said i am having an incredible finding scum in a conversion setting compared to a normal setting.
everyone has generally towny tones which makes this incredible hard to concentrate onto.
What's town about Long Con and Turnip Head?

Early on they feel genioun honestly, and i have a hard time switching said changes as the game happens.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:31 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:30 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:27 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:12 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:05 pm I reverse my opinion on Trustworthy Liberal. He bad.
Why?
Looks like a player looking for excuses to vote for people. I asked him to flesh out town reads and he dodged the question, then concocted a reason to put a vote on you.
Or like i said i am having an incredible finding scum in a conversion setting compared to a normal setting.
everyone has generally towny tones which makes this incredible hard to concentrate onto.
What's town about Long Con and Turnip Head?
Early on they feel genioun honestly, and i have a hard time switching said changes as the game happens.
That's the thing really. FUCK "early on". How can we use it? Everyone was Civ early on.

This is why my head hurts LC thats all i got for you

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:22 pm Lynch Turnip Head

Am not against this am gonna attempt to read them once more to see if i can get a more solid opinion

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:36 am Yo TL let’s vote TH and see what happens yeah? Or you could do sig and we should like get one more

If no one else agrees on a LC lynch i would be willing to move to one of those people.
Think i am Th>sig for lynching

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:45 am TL, if Okosan flips town and TH will somehow die and flip red, I’m totally holding this day phase against you if you don’t move the vote on TH

And if am wrong everyone else blames me.
Fuck it [VOTE: TH] aubergine
Stressing me out over it isn't helpful.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:04 am So we’re off LC?

Well no one was willing to vote so i suppose for today

Happy that was right maybe we can find stuff based off of that find could be useful.
I very much trust tedxtr much more now thanks for pushing me even if it was very stressful.
Also side note what benefit does claiming do since death still means you lose (unless the secrets after that means something) and this means i will continue to avoid claiming more then i have previously.

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Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:20 am Happy that was right maybe we can find stuff based off of that find could be useful.
I very much trust tedxtr much more now thanks for pushing me even if it was very stressful.
Also side note what benefit does claiming do since death still means you lose (unless the secrets after that means something) and this means i will continue to avoid claiming more then i have previously.

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[media] This isn't a character claim maybe it is how knows but this is my reaction to this lynch.
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What ever i messed up the Gif on my phone

I wonder who the hell is going to die today, and who the convert "target will be" assuming there are infinite converts hope not though.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:24 am I got all the credit I needed in order to be town read again

Ez wolfing

Well the problem with this game is you could have been converted before TH in theory.
but we have to have steps to base stuff off of

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:30 am But I don't want to assume

This is were i am at like i want to believe no more can happen but did he have a limit what limit was there did Junko count to said limit?

Okosan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:40 am COO! COO! (If we choose hope there's no one alive to soup kill us either)

This is true so i have to ask SABIE12 since you seem to be Makoto why did you start this did you gather enough info? Who are you talking with today?
there should be a reason for the final day to commence now?

Also since a soup kill was done if i am correct there was no conversion last night.
Also Monokuma attempting to soup kill Makoto makes me assume Makoto wasn't converted

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