The Syndicate

We must examine all furrensic evidence
To determine if this is a strange coincidence
That jaggedjimmyjay has all the jiggies
And is the big bad wolf to all our little piggies

Rhymes are cool
But puns are better
It takes a man
To make her wetter

You could always just post your thoughts as normal, k
And then add a little rhyme at the end yay
That's how you get around the rules, bae
Soufflé

Sig is not bad imo
I know
This is against the flow
But I ain't no hoe

[VOTE: M Plus 7] aubergine
Send him to heaven
Where the angels won't weep
Our souls to keep

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 1:30 am In post number three
I will [VOTE: MP] aubergine
This ain't the dog pee
I think I'd see

I have a counterpoint
Scum MP would want to roll smoother with the punches
For his teammates that he wouldn't want to disappoint
And good MP simply follows his hunches

[VOTE: Unvote M Plus 7] aubergine

I don't feel like sig is a pivotal lynch
Nor do I feel he will be"incredibly difficult to assess and/or work with"
The day is young and we don't need to clench
The poll or our buttholes to answer this myth

Epi pointing out dunya's post count speaks to my instincts
Like she's rationing them to get close to the quota
Not necessarily scummy, but I think it stinks
And I don't trust her one iota

[VOTE: dunya] aubergine

dunya wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 8:06 pm anyone who still gives weight to my number of posts as a genuine reason to scum read can kindly kiss my backside. had enough of that meta and spent the last games changing it. dunya posting 200 posts on day 1 is dead. over. deal with it. and especially on a 25 post limit game.

my read on mp is tone-based. he seems genuine. even though he has mostly been on the defence, because people were hitting him from all sides, his defences are all sincere and coming from a place of truth, i feel. and with that, hes still took the time to game solve and keep up. Scum mp will be more focused on defence and getting out of people's dog piles. i am an intuition-based player, and i can see town behind MP posts.

i am however beginning to feel less certain of a town sloonei here.

I dunno how to read russ, and i will at some point quote his massive post when I'm not on my phone and reply.

But that's not what I did fam
I was talking about the mindset ham
Of rationing your posts to get near the quota lamb
And anyways your overzealous defense of MP makes me skeptical too damn

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 8:44 pm Hey fuckers it's Power Rankings Time

D5 The Mighty Ducks - Top 5!

1. M Plus 7 - Okay it's town MP let's not lynch him.

2. dunya - Okay it's town Dunya let's not lynch her.

3. Nutella - This is definitely towntella.

4. Russtifinko - Drops a bit but mostly because MP and Dunya went and showed me their role cards basically.

5. Sloonei - A bit of an awkward start but I give him points for considering threadstate so early on. I'll give him a mini pass because a post cap game does make sense to be something bothersome to him. Don't like his FPS town reads though. I see no reason to town read Epi or MP, let alone both of them. Would love an explanation.

6. Epignosis - I've moved him up a bit after sleeping because he's probably just town Epi.

7. TonyStarkPrime - Drops a bit from the last ranking mostly because of the movement of those below him. Still town reading him for the same reasons as before.

8. Sig - Got a bit of a wobbly boot on but still think he's town. Whiny sig is usually town sig.

Everyone Else

6. Turnip Head - My inverse read where he's town because he's taking the piss too much has reverted to a wtf read because literally all he's been doing is sheeping people.

8. NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - He seems to give very little fucks about getting his points across. This read could change if he would just stop posting in rhyme.

T11. G-Man + Speedchuck - They have made two posts each in a game that I would expect the scum to have action paralysis in.

Too many people in your towncore. You are bad.

Mac seems more interested in reading townies than finding scum

I've voted for him

Yeah I played against him in Assassin's Creed where I was bad and he was town, so I know exactly what he's capable of. He's just posting reads lists, that won't help him find baddies, it just makes him look like a fun guy.

Nah I'm cool I'm cool. If I seem triggered it's because townie TH often feels misunderstood, or like, I don't give myself the benefit of the doubt from others, if that makes any sense. I also feel pressure to make the right reads, which I'd like to change about my playstyle so I can play calmer

Mac's bad fam we should probably lynch him. Saying interesting things doesn't make someone town, he's reverse engineering town reads

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 10:00 am
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 8:14 pm I was talking about the mindset ham
Of rationing your posts to get near the quota lamb
what does this mean? in like plain english lol. im not sure i understand.

I actually think you would have understood what I meant if you were bad and doing the thing I was accusing you of, so you can ignore it lol

It's establishing pressure Mr. Dougall. So what if I sheeped reads? I wanted to see where they led. I still maintain my own opinions as evidenced by my unvotes.

You're entrenching your read of me by characterizing my play in the way you are. I think your other reads look like a scummer's reads; I think your suspicion of me in particular is opportunistic.

Get on board with me dougall. If you're town you know we can work together. I am 100% here for that. If you're bad you'll want to keep me hamstrung.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 1:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 12:09 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 11:46 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 9:07 pm 14. Epi feels distinctly different in this game, but I'm not currently inclined to view that as a negative point. Reads have been pouring out of him more openly than I'm used to. It's a change that doesn't necessarily strike me as agenda-driven. Or maybe that's the point.
'not-negative'
'not necessarily agenda driven'
'maybe it's supposed to look good'

Do you have a read on Epi, or are those hedge brambles distracting you?
Yes, you will note that he’s in my highest tier of town reads. That post is worded the way it is because it was in response to a comment that epi feels different.

Yucky take, [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine
i see you're still voting for speedchuck. is he your best suspect based on this post alone?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 11:16 am Dunya which of G-man and Speedchuck is more likely to be town in your opinion?
i'd have to see more of both of them before deciding. i liked g-man's day 0 recap, looking forward to see what he made of day 1. gth, i would say speed is town and gman is bad. if i like, had to pick one.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 11:38 am Opportunistic? How so?
@Turnip Head i'd like an answer to this too please. how was macdougall's suspicion of you opportunistic?

I am thinking, alone in my turnipy head, that Mac thought I'm an easy person to rally doubt around, because I'm often misunderstood or distrusted as a townie. He said I was townie while I was fooling around and then scumread me once I started pursuing leads. I'd describe that as opportunistic. Gets me off his team's back and sows suspicion of me at the same time.

Russtifinko wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 2:17 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 11:50 am Get on board with me dougall. If you're town you know we can work together. I am 100% here for that. If you're bad you'll want to keep me hamstrung.
Wait....so if Mac doesn't agree with you, he's bad, and not just misunderstanding you? Can you explain how that works, especially since you said you're easily misunderstood?

I would say you've misunderstood my intent here Russti. I'm telling Mac that if he's town I'm here to solve the game together. Surely he can see the merit in that plan.

Russtifinko wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 3:49 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 11:32 am It's establishing pressure Mr. Dougall. So what if I sheeped reads? I wanted to see where they led. I still maintain my own opinions as evidenced by my unvotes.

You're entrenching your read of me by characterizing my play in the way you are. I think your other reads look like a scummer's reads; I think your suspicion of me in particular is opportunistic.
I don't like this post, or TH's response to Mac in general. Sheeping reads to see where they lead doesn't make a great deal of sense to me, since, if someone else already has the read, in theory we'll get to see where it leads without sheeping, and it takes away responsibility from someone to make their own unique reads. Many a baddie has said "I agree with Y - we ought to lynch X to get more info. Oh, didn't work out? It was Y's idea! Get them!"

To me, unvotes are also generally a scummy look, especially if other votes have come on to the votee between the vote and unvote. It's a good way to start a lynch train without being held responsible for it.

But is any of what you described actually what's happening? Because none of that stuff is happening. You're describing a fake future.

As for sheeping being pointless... Can't get pressure on a suspect if no one agrees with the case. I back up reads that I like from fellow players even if I didn't think of them first. And I also contribute my own reads and counterpoints. I've done all of that.

I think you and I have different ideas of what works. You're telling me that my approach literally doesn't work and is scummy, and I disagree with that assessment.

Unvotes aren't scummy, imo, and for me personally, it's just a representation of my opinions being fluid, and I sometimes vote in the moment to show where I'm at and see where it leads.

Nice burn Epi!

I'll be surprised if sig is bad here

A reminder that Mac was leading the poll by a full vote before the dogpile on sig occurred

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 5:47 pm I would vote Tony if that was on the table. I have zero reason to town read him; he's made so little impression that I kept forgetting he was even a player.

(23)

I remember his whimsical attempts at poetry

Let's keep everybody happy and have a healthy game

I'm up for some GTH if it doesn't take all our post count

Maybe not a great idea at night lol idk

I'll roleclaim. I'm Leaky and I have a semi-useful role that requires me to have good instincts, so I'm not all that hopeful about that, but I'm town.

I might not be in immediate danger but I'm on a lot of scum lists. Felt like a good idea to claim, no one needs to waste any time scumreading me

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 7:55 pm Uh

That’s a weird time to claim tbh

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 7:57 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 4:36 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 4:18 pmDDL is town
Not sure how you concoluded that from a sequence of 3 filler posts, but thanks.
I didn't. I've held this town read for a while and said so on Day 1. I just wanted to reiterate it because people were talking about you as a potential suspect.

G-man is bad. Someone tell me why that statement is false while I vote for him.

Why is G-Man bad?

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

That reminds me, I'm notorious for getting my fellow townies lynched day 1. I got golden lynched day 1 in economics mafia and sloonei day 1 in arrested development. They both replaced back into the same game as scum roles. So if Mac comes back in this game my recommendation is to lynch him on sight.

I still don't think sig is bad. Despite him misreading the MP situation he comes across as a true believer in his own words

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 11:34 pm That’s nice and all but I have what is pretty likely a red check on him, so.

Doesn't Sig's treatment of MP make anyone else think sig is town because of it? Like why, as a scum accusing someone he would have to KNOW is town, would sig go after a guy using false logic about a different game and also run the risk of making it so heated and emotional and personal for both parties? Sig believes what he's saying or else he just simply wouldn't have bothered (as scum).

Nanook's red peek on sig, therefore and for other nanook-seems-sketchy related reasons, looks fake to me. Especially how he chose to present it with such a soft push. Using terms like "pretty likely" to be a red check gives him some breathing room if it turns out he's wrong.

TL;DR Sig's push on MP looks genuine. Nanook's push on sig looks fake.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 10:19 am TH: mac is mafia

Mac flips town

Nanook claims a soft guilty on Sig

TH: lol but my reads tho

No one bats 1.000, doesn't mean my thoughts should be shrugged off. Your claim was weak and I don't believe you.

You're making a loooot of assumptions about how nanook's role works, Luffy. Why are you doing that?

If what you're proposing is true, nanook's check would be more than just "pretty likely"

That's not logic though it's wild guessing. Nanook hasn't said at ant point that h es not allowed to share how he got his "check". He pushed his check a little and if you go back to when he first mentioned it, it almost sounds like he wasn't even serious about it, and then he sort of quietly mentioned it a second time. The way he went about it is sus as fuck and you're just rolling with it and coming up with explanations FOR him.

I'm going to start saving my posts now but I'm a little surprised how easily you're treating a theory as a fact.

If Nanook wants us to take him seriously he should answer some of this for himself, and stop letting his pet dragon do the PR.

Yeah DDL cuz if sig flips town let's suspect the one person who wasn't up for an easy lynch today

if I was bad and sig was good I think I would have just gotten on the sig wagon cuz it was served up on a silver platter. Itheres no brownie points to win by my contraianism. 'm not bad for doubting nanook's peek on sig, his peek looked fake to me and still does. Let's not play one-dimensional chess here. If more people had doubted nanook's peak we may have had more discussion today, and I was the only person driving that route of discussion (other than sloonei's case on G-Man which I intend to explore more thoroughly).

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 6:02 pm Like how fucking hard is it to say “I’m VT” jfc

I have zero remorse

You tried to bully him into claiming and now you're victim blaming him lol. I'm glad your gambit didn't work tbh.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 6:09 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 6:05 pm I'm glad your gambit didn't work tbh.
Why? We are closer to losing the game.

I wish it had worked.

You sound scummy for this ^ tbqh. And you blindly following nanook's peek and then pre-flip sowing suspicion against the one person who tried to argue against it is not a good look. from my POV that is the exact next move the mafia would try to attempt after getting their free sig lynch.

I also don't like how quickly you justified nanook's peek as real. You jumped through hoops to explain Nanook's behavior and I don't buy your thought process as genuine. (I encourage yall to iso luffys posts on this subject). There was no healthy level of paranoia from you here DDL and it concerns me greatly. It's not looking good for you Luffy, it's not looking good for you at all

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 6:07 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 6:05 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 6:02 pm Like how fucking hard is it to say “I’m VT” jfc

I have zero remorse
You tried to bully him into claiming and now you're victim blaming him lol. I'm glad your gambit didn't work tbh.
What's your read on G-man?

I don't really have one, but as with most cases I think it's possible to read his behavior through two different lenses, one where he's good and one where he's bad. I don't feel strongly one way or the other at this point.

Idk I just think you're bad dude

I've done plenty of things in this game; saying I've only posted angry disagreements is demonstrably inaccurate

I said before I didn't trust nanook's peek as real. What that means for his alignment is up for debate (I think he COULD be good with a fake peek) but I did vote for him. As of right now I trust you less than Nanook.

TH do this TH do that. TH you're doing stuff but it's not the things I want you to do. TH your reads aren't the ones I want from you. Lol yikes.

DDL/Nanook/Nutella mafia? I think it's possible.

M Plus 7 town
Russtifinko town
Sloonei town
TSP town

This is my towncore and I am unlikely to change my mind about these reads.

Dunya I pray to any god that exists that she's town, and I currently believe she is

Speedchuck lean town, a malleable read
G-Man lean not scum, a malleable read

Nanook slight scum lean
Nutella slight scum lean

DDL hard scum lean

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