The Syndicate

Ok so the claims mess is sorted. No need for full claim.

Both Ender and Poison are clearly town so let's just vote out Wilgy.

I don't believe Wilgy is a cop btw.

Town is now confirmed to have: an IC, a roleblocker, and a desperado.

Town has claimed: dayvig, doctor, and whatever Ender is, and whatever Poison is.

I don't think it also has a cop. And all of those claims are more believable than Wilgy's. And cop is what you claim when you're mech outed as scum.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:55 pm Like actually,

"These two died before Wilgy and Wilgy is normally the misyeet, so he must be scum."

"Wilgy stopped posting when the heat got turned up on him" sorry I had to go help the fiance.

"Wilgy's claim (with no counter) when he was put under the barrel is likely to be a scum claim without any evidence or context otherwise outside this happens."

This is all so silly. What happened to you Alison? If you weren't wearing Mac's corpse I'd be calling you a wolf rn.

Ender has claimed that his action might have stopped you from making a kill as wolf.

Cop is unlikely with what we know about the setup. I forgot to add that town also has a tree stump. There is simply too much town power, and the roles are too odd and intricate, for a plain cop to be a likely claim.

Urist claimed doctor.

You think there's a doctor and a cop in the same setup? Plus all the other shit town has?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:04 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:00 am Urist claimed doctor.

You think there's a doctor and a cop in the same setup? Plus all the other shit town has?

Urist was jank ass vote manipulation right?

Urist hardclaimed doctor.

The claim is believable.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:04 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:04 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:00 am Urist claimed doctor.

You think there's a doctor and a cop in the same setup? Plus all the other shit town has?

Urist was jank ass vote manipulation right?

Urist hardclaimed doctor.

The claim is believable.

Kind of, anyway. But still. Hardclaim doctor, plus all the shit we know exists and all the other claims on the table... a claimed cop is hard to believe.

Ruri wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:05 am On my homesite, a doctor and cop in the setup was standard. Any other roles were complementary. IC and desperado can townfirm, but desperado exchanges for a townfirm. In a way, a cop doesn't make much sense with this many townfirms available. But, I'm also not familiar with how this site balances things.

My homesite may have been unbalanced though, considering town always had night talks.

Doctor + Cop is a very very uncommon role combination on the Syndicate, for both balancing and cultural reasons.

I am an IC. Poison is some sort of investigative role that can perceive what's going on with night actions. ted always green checks at least one person with his shot (himself or his target).

You don't think there's too many ways to clear people if we also add a straightup cop into the mix?

The other thing is that everyone has very complex, intricate abilities. Nobody has an ability that's just "you do this. The end."

Even simple roles like Urist's doctor role are carried out in weird ways like blocking the killer instead of healing the target. (Important for tracks, watches, BGs, lots of stuff.) My IC role has an additional component to it as well.

I dunno. Lots of stuff doesn't add up about this cop claim.

Michelle seems townie on play to me. I wouldn't investigate conspiracy theories like her poisoning herself until I see something that merits it.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:13 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:08 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:06 am

Ruri wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:05 am On my homesite, a doctor and cop in the setup was standard. Any other roles were complementary. IC and desperado can townfirm, but desperado exchanges for a townfirm. In a way, a cop doesn't make much sense with this many townfirms available. But, I'm also not familiar with how this site balances things.

My homesite may have been unbalanced though, considering town always had night talks.

Doctor + Cop is a very very uncommon role combination on the Syndicate, for both balancing and cultural reasons.

There's usually a no double targeting rule that makes that combination feasible, so I wouldn't go down that rabbit hole.

I can consec target fwiw

If Urist is telling the truth and can consec target there's no way in hell Wilgy is cop lol.

Eh there's still poison I guess. But no, mafia poisoner can die and then it degenerates. JPIC isn't that bad at balance.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:15 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:13 am The other thing is that everyone has very complex, intricate abilities. Nobody has an ability that's just "you do this. The end."

Even simple roles like Urist's doctor role are carried out in weird ways like blocking the killer instead of healing the target. (Important for tracks, watches, BGs, lots of stuff.) My IC role has an additional component to it as well.

I dunno. Lots of stuff doesn't add up about this cop claim.

For clarity's sake, that was a joke. I'm just a doctor, no bells or whistles.

Ok. Interesting.

I retract that point then.

(Also don't make jokes about stuff when we're trying to hash out mech.)

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:17 am [VOTE: michelle ] aubergine

Extremely sus vote.

If I couldn't vote out Wilgy I'd vote out Rondo.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:18 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:17 am If I couldn't vote out Wilgy I'd vote out Rondo.

If we vote out anyone there it's Wilgy.

Wilgy green clears Rondo

Not from 3P and Rondo is kinda acting like a 3P right now lol.

Wilgy, Rondo, Radishes, tutuu, BoSyn, Ruri

Is my POE. Unordered.

Nanook's posting today seems ok so he gets a day pass.

Have the CDCers said anything about Bo? They're good at reading him iirc.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:24 am Why is the Center for Disease Control here?

Bo's homesite. MR, falcon, 112 are from there.

They read each other well. Therefore I want their opinions.

Michelle is definitely town whoever suspects her should stop.

Mech is weird. Maybe should keep Wilgy alive. But if Godfather is around not sure what's the use. If not Wilgy then Rondo.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:49 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:38 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:02 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:58 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:52 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:50 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:45 am

You keep posting things with double meaning

Do you mean double entendre? Because no

I know what i say and i maintain my suspicion

well that makes one of us

Say it again please, explain like i am 5

thats what I am asking you to do

The sentence i coloured in your post is a lie
You pretend/imply tutuu caught me like this is a real thing, when in fact is just a narrative you are pushing.
Someone who reads this post and can't search in tutuu's Iso what she said will beleve you.
Otoh, if you are confronted with her posts you can say that's your take and that's it.
You present me as 'caught' being a thing tutuu was doing, instead suspecting me openly and force a read by interaction.
What's your read on me?

I had the same thought.

Dkkoba went into their grave screaming for tutuu's head. You all may find it fun to ignore the legacies of strong town players but I don't. She is in my POE and I intend to resolve her soon after I untangle this mech fiesta.

Speaking of legacies of strong town players. What did dyachei say about the game before they died? I can't imagine them going quietly.

Stop acting like you're entitled to being townread. You have objectively made bad and anti town votes. By your own admission you have not contributed much because you were working. You self vote during a tight EOD, act like a jester, and screw around. The person who knows you the most in this game, who is almost certainly town, has called you out as suspect.

You have no right to complain that people are tunnelling you when you haven't made any effort to be townie. Now, if you're scum, continue being a clown and we will get around to mopping you up eventually. If you are town, try making some cases, explaining your reads, engaging with people and otherwise making a good faith attempt to show your alignment and take yourself out of the POE.

I note that MR has returned to the thread and done nothing.

Mac gives no reasoning for clearing you here other than volume. He has made posts saying his "emotional" read on you is likely to be wrong. He suggests that Ender can read you best and Ender has been negative on you. The Mac townread is ill-explained and not even that confident (7/10 town is barely above rand if that, "Alison is probably right to keep burying Rondo here and I am probably wrong"). I award you no points for it.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:11 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:02 am Stop acting like you're entitled to being townread. You have objectively made bad and anti town votes. By your own admission you have not contributed much because you were working. You self vote during a tight EOD, act like a jester, and screw around. The person who knows you the most in this game, who is almost certainly town, has called you out as suspect.

You have no right to complain that people are tunnelling you when you haven't made any effort to be townie. Now, if you're scum, continue being a clown and we will get around to mopping you up eventually. If you are town, try making some cases, explaining your reads, engaging with people and otherwise making a good faith attempt to show your alignment and take yourself out of the POE.

I have made the exact votes Mac has made, if they are bad and anti town dont look at me

You voted yourself at EOD then voted me the next day. I don't recall Mac doing that.

wow Mac predicted that I would vote a blatantly anti town player who isn't even pretending to try to solve.

Amazing predictions.

This is really not a townie mindset.

Okay cool. Then we will vote you off.

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

If there is a possibility kill was blocked by Urist and not Ender then Wilgy is no longer damned. Especially since 112 also claimed a block. 50% to 33% is a big jump. Still think he has been playing sus and he remains in my POE. We will leash him and force him to give us results every day. If the results are ever proven wrong we turbo him.

Rondo is pseudo green checked but is ridiculously anti town and scummy on play, and with the existence of 3Ps, redirectors and Godfathers we cannot trust it at all. He remains in the POE.

tutuu's posting has been acceptable but not send me to the moon townie and I respect koba's reads enough to keep her in the POE as well.

I liked Made's case on BoSyn and they flaked after a bad turn of events for mafia. Also POE.

These are my main suspects.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:01 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:15 pm My new roommates are really fervent hockey fans. They support the Toronto Maple Leafs and when the season starts they are gonna drag a TV into the dorm and make me watch games with them.

@falcon45ca @BoKnows @Master Radishes I know you guys told me not to support the Leafs but I have to now.

They are also into baseball and support the Blue Jays. But I told them I'm not watching baseball because it's a shit game.

As long as hockey gets another fan, I'll accept this. I'm a born Calgarian, but spent my formative years in Victoria, so I understand...but ya dance with the one that brung ya, no fair weather fan bullshit!

You made your bed, you lay in it

I don't support teams based on whether they win or lose. That's silly. Then I'd have to support a new team every season.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:14 am

Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:51 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:36 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:07 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:23 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:03 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:40 am

That actually…makes sense from mafia perspective, to dodge the doc, factional kill someone else, and poison the IC. The rebound is clear.

Good conjecture, tutuu!

Ok so I’m currently at : Wilgy, Michelle, Rondo, MR.
there’s probably 1-2 more but that’s a good place to start

In the hypothetically idea i would be in a scum team with these folks, i wouldn't suspect/quoestion Wilgy, Rondo and Mr. R.
You can bring up distancing activities, but this is too much of a strech and you should not keep the suspicion on me before asking me about my claimed actions, and make me claim my role
I claimed i targeted N1 tutuu and N2 Mr R and i don't see anyone asking me why, and with what action.
Town is not focused on me that much and scum is not role fishing.
That means for me that scum knows about my role by one of my targets and i believe MrR is the one, because shows disinterest in interactions with me.
I would full claim if necessary.

LOL, this whole game when you have been typing Mr R. I thought you meant me. Now I realise you mean Radish

Is this the reason you complained about my tunnel?

Now can you answer my last question please?
What read do you have for me and why?

I read you as mostly town mainly because you are solvy, you are a bit abrasive and demanding but whatever. I have seen a few good posts I like. However when I put my tinfoil hat on the explination Tutuu said about you hitting Mac with poison and having it bounce back on you does give me pause on that possibility you are scum or 3p. Scotty said earlier we are being manipulated by some top posting as well and I know its not me, it cant be scotty or mac/alison. You are a pretty high poster so it could also mean you are scum. But I still read you as town after all that for now. Day 4 I was going to do some actual reads since I cant coast by anymore letting mac win the game.

Is this a perspective slip, how do you know you'll be alive next day?

And if you think i am town why don't you cooperate with me if you are villager like you pretend?

I dont like cooperating with people who demand it

What kind of townie acts like this?

Answer: one who either doesn't care about winning, or one who isn't a townie at all.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:16 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:10 am [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

If there is a possibility kill was blocked by Urist and not Ender then Wilgy is no longer damned. Especially since 112 also claimed a block. 50% to 33% is a big jump. Still think he has been playing sus and he remains in my POE. We will leash him and force him to give us results every day. If the results are ever proven wrong we turbo him.

Rondo is pseudo green checked but is ridiculously anti town and scummy on play, and with the existence of 3Ps, redirectors and Godfathers we cannot trust it at all. He remains in the POE.

tutuu's posting has been acceptable but not send me to the moon townie and I respect koba's reads enough to keep her in the POE as well.

I liked Made's case on BoSyn and they flaked after a bad turn of events for mafia. Also POE.

These are my main suspects.

who did urist target?
who did 112 target?

Urist doctored Scotty. 112 no clain.

By the way I checked with the mod and he said that if a poisoner targeted me the ability would bounce, but it wouldn't poison them. So Michelle poisoning Mac N1 theory is shot.

And she is super town anyway.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:19 am Alison:
To be fair, Rondo does do that either way. His contrarianism is NAI.

Then he is a liability to town when he rolls town and an easy catch when he rolls scum.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:30 am

Made wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:27 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:06 am

Spoiler: show

Made wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:57 pm

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:25 pm also @RondoDimBuckle while we're vibing waiting for the flip. Where are you at on me?

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:53 pm

112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:52 pm when is nightfall? busy for like 30 mins and then should have time to be in the thread for a while

7 minutes

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:53 pm

112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:52 pm when is nightfall? busy for like 30 mins and then should have time to be in the thread for a while

7 minutes lol

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:53 pm

112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:52 pm when is nightfall? busy for like 30 mins and then should have time to be in the thread for a while

7 min

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:53 pm

112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:52 pm when is nightfall? busy for like 30 mins and then should have time to be in the thread for a while

7 minutes

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:54 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:53 pm

112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:52 pm when is nightfall? busy for like 30 mins and then should have time to be in the thread for a while

7 min

jynx

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:55 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:54 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:53 pm
7 min

jynx

@RondoDimBuckle answer my question nerd :P

why are you voting me?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:55 pm [VOTE: rondo ] aubergine

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:56 pm

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:55 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:54 pm

jynx

@RondoDimBuckle answer my question nerd :P

why are you voting me?

that wasnt your question, your question was my reads, which Ive already given so you could have gone back and read them.

why I am voting you because Scotty and Mac who are both confirmed town want you

@RondoDimBuckle
this is not a good look for you

My favorite was the response to this by nook:

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:57 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:57 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:56 pm

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:55 pm

@RondoDimBuckle answer my question nerd :P

why are you voting me?

that wasnt your question, your question was my reads, which Ive already given so you could have gone back and read them.

why I am voting you because Scotty and Mac who are both confirmed town want you

This is a terrible reason

What no thats a good reason

This is a good take. I still think Rondo is the best way for today

the problem is you are wrong. MR has a possible scum slip and Wiggly has a cop check on me. So there are two other people worth looking at over me so far. If you resolve MR's scum as not a scum slip you still have Wiggly calling me not harmful. So either he is my wolf buddy trying to save me or I am actually town like I claim

The problem is that Wilgy can be town and you can be Godfather. Or he was misdirected. Or you're 3P. Yadda yadda.

I agree MR is a better exe than Rondo right now.

Naw falcon is town.

@falcon45ca I am voting MR now btw.

Would love your thoughts on him and Bo since you're from the same community. 112 as well if you can read her.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:02 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:33 pm Rondo taking his vote off me when I attacked him for it is scummy. In Batman he didn't give a fuck about being voted, and when he got voted out he ended with his vote on himself and his last post was "ignore everything I said I was just bullshitting". And he was town.

Now he gets skittish when he gets pressure and the tone of his "eh I'm going to die" seems resigned and disappointed rather than yolo which is what he does as town. Mac thought he was scummy too. And there is the "maybe the IC is actually mafia" crap which I struggle to believe is real.

Rondo definitely POE. Will look for more suspects today.

I still say this is a terrible way to try and read me

Mac did not think I was scummy, you can say you think I am but you cant say Mac did when he said I was town.

Mac scumread you for much of Day 1. His reversal on you was eh and he said himself that he was likely to be wrong on it.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:03 am Im starting to think Epi is scum just coz there are too many townclears and i know im town. If yall knew im town id guess ud replace me with epi in ur poes

Not saying we should kill him soon, might be one of the last scum we chop. But ye

Maybe not epi but like. At least one of the people with towny mech has to be mafia by numbers

This is a good point.

I am not clearing Epi any more.

2. Michelle
3. NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
5. sig
6. tutuu
7. MacDougall/alison
8. falcon45ca
9. Urist
10. RondoDimBuckle
11. EnderWiggin
12. Master Radishes
13. Epignosis
15. Made
16. Syn/BoKnows
17. 112
18. Poison
19. Ruri
21. DrWilgy
22. Scotty
24. TonyStarkPrime

Alive players. Clear Scotty and myself for being hard confirmed town.

2. Michelle
3. NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
5. sig
6. tutuu
8. falcon45ca
9. Urist
10. RondoDimBuckle
11. EnderWiggin
12. Master Radishes
13. Epignosis
15. Made
16. Syn/BoKnows
17. 112
18. Poison
19. Ruri
21. DrWilgy
24. TonyStarkPrime

Clear Ender, Poison, Urist, and Made for convincing and townie roleclaims.

2. Michelle
3. NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
5. sig
6. tutuu
8. falcon45ca
10. RondoDimBuckle
12. Master Radishes
13. Epignosis
16. Syn/BoKnows
17. 112
19. Ruri
21. DrWilgy
24. TonyStarkPrime

Clear sig/TSP and Rondo/Wilgy, not because they're totally out of the POE but because their mech on each other means that it's inadvisable to touch them today until we see how that pans out.

2. Michelle
3. NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
6. tutuu
8. falcon45ca
12. Master Radishes
13. Epignosis
16. Syn/BoKnows
17. 112
19. Ruri

Of these, I think Michelle has been playing extremely townie. Nanook has been posting reasonably well and his annoyance/conviction about Epi rang genuine. I also have a very small mech-related reason to think he's town which I won't disclose atm. It's not very reliable, but it's the cherry on top. falcon has been posting medium today, but I liked the early pushes in his ISO. Falling off in complicated mech situations isn't out of his town range, and if I just assessed his posts then... they're townie. Even his posts today have been nullish and not scummy.

So we clear Michelle, Nook and Falcon for townie posting.

6. tutuu
12. Master Radishes
13. Epignosis
16. Syn/BoKnows
17. 112
19. Ruri

That leaves these people as potential exes today.

112's claim is too vague to be of any help. I have a townlean on 112's prior posting, but they swung down and Ender's hard scumread of them means I can't clear them today. Ruri's posts are extremely unmemorable. tutuu's posting has actually been ok but she was targeted for death by Koba and we all know this is well within her scum range. Epignosis, eh, sig testifies he could have made that shot as either alignment. So we put him in the POE, that's fine. MR and Bo are obviously the big suspects.

This is my POE for the D3 exe. Come day 4, if I'm dead, you'll want to reopen the question of TSP/sig and Wilgy/Rondo. You might also want to doublecheck the townie roleclaims against known mech that comes out N3, and make sure that the townie posters aren't skating by. It's a good start though.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:07 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:04 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:02 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:33 pm Rondo taking his vote off me when I attacked him for it is scummy. In Batman he didn't give a fuck about being voted, and when he got voted out he ended with his vote on himself and his last post was "ignore everything I said I was just bullshitting". And he was town.

Now he gets skittish when he gets pressure and the tone of his "eh I'm going to die" seems resigned and disappointed rather than yolo which is what he does as town. Mac thought he was scummy too. And there is the "maybe the IC is actually mafia" crap which I struggle to believe is real.

Rondo definitely POE. Will look for more suspects today.

I still say this is a terrible way to try and read me

Mac did not think I was scummy, you can say you think I am but you cant say Mac did when he said I was town.

Mac scumread you for much of Day 1. His reversal on you was eh and he said himself that he was likely to be wrong on it.

You kept moving the goal post you asked me to prove to you mac said I was town, I proved that, then you say its eh. Then I continue to be have as much fun till I die rondo cause youve made up your mind

This is a lie.

Show me where Mac townread you and his reasoning. If it's good I'll sheep him. Else you go into the POE for clowning around all day playing up your meme status and acting like a jester while people are trying to solve.

Exact quote.

Mac's reasoning was not good.

No shifting goal posts. I did what I said. You have failed to furnish sufficient evidence that you are town.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:07 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:06 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:05 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:03 am Im starting to think Epi is scum just coz there are too many townclears and i know im town. If yall knew im town id guess ud replace me with epi in ur poes

Not saying we should kill him soon, might be one of the last scum we chop. But ye

Maybe not epi but like. At least one of the people with towny mech has to be mafia by numbers

You had me as town hard up in the town area and you havent defended me once against the Alison onslaught. Explain

Alison = boss

Me = obey

which is exactly the same reason I got scum read from alison, watch out

Also untrue.

You got scumread because you've been doing nothing to help town. And when you are directly asked to do more in your solving, you throw a temper tantrum and whine about how you refuse to cooperate with people if they ask you to do so. You have self-voted or pretended to self-vote during a tight EOD which is scummy. You have voted confirmed town which is scummy. You have voted townie people like Michelle at the slightest opening which is scummy. You have played up your jester status and used it as an excuse to avoid doing actually townie things.

This is why you are being scumread. Not because you sheeped me. I generally townread people for sheeping me, and I don't think negatively of either tutuu or falcon for doing so. Because they aren't acting like chaotic jesters disrupting town solving in favor of filling the thread with drivel.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:17 am Hard disagree.

Hard disagree - but where is the counterpoint?

I say you have failed to furnish sufficient evidence that you are town. You have said Mac townreads you. Well and good. But we looked into that townread and it was a townread that Mac himself was uncertain of. It was also a townread that had very little reasoning behind it other than volume.

Where is the sufficient evidence? Point it out to me or be proven a liar.

Made wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:29 am and yeah, i didn't scum read, but I thought the consensus was that you dying would get rid of the question mark-- and I agreed with that. tbh, you're reading town, but not as town as Scotty/Alison. In my experience poison heals are 2 shot max, so using that on you feels odd to me in this situation. Given the theory that KZA was poisoner, it was the right move to save you, but from my pov, it's odd

That all said, i don't see how this line of thought helps so imma just drop it if that's cool /w you

Poison healing anyone you think is town is optimal because you can get killed.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:46 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:42 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:38 am Haven't caught up, why is radish the wagon now and what happened to the red check?


Also rondo is likely town lol

Wilgy claimed to be a cop, n1 copped syn but unsuccessful, n2 peeked rondo not-a-threat (town or 3p)

Also host announced an error in night actions then urist said his protect on scotty didnt fail like he was told it did initially

Ender isnt certain if his action takes priority over urists

112 claims to have potentially disrupted the kill which gives ender 33% to have stopped the kill and red peeked wilgy

33% still seems pretty good to me tbh

And lol why is rondo being pushed over a greenish check if wilgy is no longer being pushed

Because JPIC likes godfathers apparently. Also because we have some evidence of redirection fuckery going on.

@TonyStarkPrime how vulnerable is your "green check" on sig to stuff like godfather or redirector?