The Syndicate

[mention]Lunalee[/mention] what's your mafia background? Infodump heavy games, no infodumping games, etc?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:48 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:46 am Lunalee what's your mafia background? Infodump heavy games, no infodumping games, etc?
Her first game was on this site, so the site history is all here.

Not helpful for my purposes, since apparently there are both types of games here

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:52 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:42 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:33 am I just went and read some of the roles.

... Why are we assuming TH was actually the trickster?
Occam's Razor

Also it's N2 not endgame
I actually feel like Occam's Razor points the other way on this one. If the mafia team have the trickster, why WOULDN'T they use him every night? And what would be more confusing and misleading than flipping a kill as scum? And even moreso, what scum role is DEFINITELY scum and even more confusing?

So either a mafia team is playing pretty well, or a kill last night got REALLY lucky.

I could be wrong, but I feel like that's 50/50 or so personally.

I still come back to "how do we react to this information" and if the answer is just "idk but you should think about it" I will remain unsatisfied.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:52 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:50 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:48 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:46 am Lunalee what's your mafia background? Infodump heavy games, no infodumping games, etc?
Her first game was on this site, so the site history is all here.
Not helpful for my purposes, since apparently there are both types of games here
She also has a list of games she's played in her signature, which I have turned off for reading's sake.

I don't actually care about her performances, but I'm asking because there's a bunch of people jumping her for believing an infodump and where I started on the Realms the default rule is to trust info unless given a strong reason not to (almost to a fault really).

Dana wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:42 pm I'm about 8 pages behind and I forgot the end time was moved up so I'll [VOTE: Quin] aubergine for now and possibly change my mind by the time I catch up. He seems very angry (which I think is normal for him but I don't really remember), and I am not getting the best vibe. I see that Wigly is in the lead right now but I don't have much of an opinion on him, and he also isn't on the Sloonei list if that discussion is still going on right now. I feel sort of okay about the other 4 on the list at the moment.

Wat

timmer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:30 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:55 pm Infodumping sucks. I don't like it. Never have and never will. I'm not moving my vote because someone has info that may or may not be true.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:15 pm
Luna, Kyle, DDL, Quin, G-man.

One of them killed nutella.
What's your plan if we lynch one of these 5 and they're civ?

Let's say we lynch Luna today and she's good.
Day 3 we go "oh it's one out of these 4 now, those are even better odds", we lynch Kyle and he's good.
Day 4 we lynch DDL and he's good.
Day 5 we lynch Quin and he's good.
Day 6 we lynch G-Man and he's either bad (you got good info) or not (your info was incorrect, or you lied and made us waste 5 lynches)

We could waste up to 4 lynches if the info is right, 5 if it's wrong.
So... I just checked and tranq dropped this and then never posted again?

So I think quite heavily that tranq is bad and one of his teammates is on the verge of getting lynched today, and their team is frustrated at getting hit by map info.

So considering the state of the poll, I'll move my vote to wilgy since he's in the lead he'd be the one tranq is mad about.

This post is so close to being a really good insight and then it trips at the finish line

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:01 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:54 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:52 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:42 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:33 am I just went and read some of the roles.

... Why are we assuming TH was actually the trickster?
Occam's Razor

Also it's N2 not endgame
I actually feel like Occam's Razor points the other way on this one. If the mafia team have the trickster, why WOULDN'T they use him every night? And what would be more confusing and misleading than flipping a kill as scum? And even moreso, what scum role is DEFINITELY scum and even more confusing?

So either a mafia team is playing pretty well, or a kill last night got REALLY lucky.

I could be wrong, but I feel like that's 50/50 or so personally.

I still come back to "how do we react to this information" and if the answer is just "idk but you should think about it" I will remain unsatisfied.
I've lynched people in games before solely based on their interactions with a known scum.

I will not be doing that with TH's flip.

This is the first good answer to this question I've heard. Civ points for speedchuck.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:47 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:42 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:41 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:33 pm I asked this before but I don't think I got an answer. I thought "forge" meant the forger can make someone appear as any alignment he or she wants. Does it mean they can also make people appear any role that they want?
There may be variations on how it works out there. The Trickster's forge allows him to make his kill-target appear as the role and alignment of his choosing.
OOOOOHHHHHHHH ok thank you much.
This makes me think TH wasn't even bad, and the mafia team with the trickster killed him.

I give up

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:54 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:53 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:47 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:42 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:41 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:33 pm I asked this before but I don't think I got an answer. I thought "forge" meant the forger can make someone appear as any alignment he or she wants. Does it mean they can also make people appear any role that they want?
There may be variations on how it works out there. The Trickster's forge allows him to make his kill-target appear as the role and alignment of his choosing.
OOOOOHHHHHHHH ok thank you much.
This makes me think TH wasn't even bad, and the mafia team with the trickster killed him.
I give up
What's your opinion on the TH flip?

That there's a lot of FUD spread around it that's totally unhelpful whether it's being done by mafia or civs.

Honestly I'm probably tunneling on it too much and I should just relax and let it go.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:50 pm Oh wait, nevermind that was the rules/playerlist/op. Seems like everyone got that.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:21 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:49 am I woke up in the middle of the night and found myself about to be CFD'd so I made another last minute push for Wilgy. As I said before Wilgy could be the Hollow Man so I'm not necessarily wrong. On my square there's an item i found called the Mirror of Truth which told me he might be bad.

"He could be Hollow Man" is absolute garbage reasoning

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm Told you wiggly was good also WE NEED TO STOP WITH CFD SHIT!!!!!!
It rarely helps town and had basically resulted in two civs dead.

We need to lynch sab shes mafia or a baddie no way around that.
She's also newer to TS and have played on other sites correct? If those sites allow infoduming which I'm sure they do then she's probably very skilled at deflecting info that plus peoples bias to infodunping here is why shes still alive and we lynched a civ.
Yuck.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm Told you wiggly was good also WE NEED TO STOP WITH CFD SHIT!!!!!!
It rarely helps town and had basically resulted in two civs dead.

We need to lynch sab shes mafia or a baddie no way around that.
She's also newer to TS and have played on other sites correct? If those sites allow infoduming which I'm sure they do then she's probably very skilled at deflecting info that plus peoples bias to infodunping here is why shes still alive and we lynched a civ.

Oh so you're saying we were on mafia before the CFDs? Interesting.

Your sabie reasoning is trash

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:34 pm Also not caught up all the way, but I dont want to lynch Mac, though i do think a sloonie lynch is becoming more viable.

Basically with the town leaders/high speed civs we need this strategy if they keep leading us wrong we need them gone. This is true fpr epi, mac, and sloonie. Since rhe longer they're alive and the more mislynches they led the more likely it is they're mafia

Wtf we have 30 people and I'm assuming something like 12-14 are civ, lynching 2 civs the first 2 days is always the most likely outcome.

Also I'm still reading but I don't see sloonei driving a wilgy train at all so far. Mac correctly called the wilgy lynch as Garbo, iirc Epi wasn't a fan either.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:10 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:34 pm Also not caught up all the way, but I dont want to lynch Mac, though i do think a sloonie lynch is becoming more viable.

Basically with the town leaders/high speed civs we need this strategy if they keep leading us wrong we need them gone. This is true fpr epi, mac, and sloonie. Since rhe longer they're alive and the more mislynches they led the more likely it is they're mafia
Wtf we have 30 people and I'm assuming something like 12-14 are civ, lynching 2 civs the first 2 days is always the most likely outcome.

Also I'm still reading but I don't see sloonei driving a wilgy train at all so far. Mac correctly called the wilgy lynch as Garbo, iirc Epi wasn't a fan either.

EBWOP 12-14 aren't civ

sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:50 pm And the secondary portion of my thing, re mac, epi, and sloonie was more a general thing. Just in case I die I wanted to throw that out.

"Guys let's lynch our leaders because they've led us on mislynches even though none of them were really driving either of these lynches and Mac is kind of not leading anybody and epi was basically catching up all d2"

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:18 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:03 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:32 pm Told you wiggly was good also WE NEED TO STOP WITH CFD SHIT!!!!!!
It rarely helps town and had basically resulted in two civs dead.

We need to lynch sab shes mafia or a baddie no way around that.
She's also newer to TS and have played on other sites correct? If those sites allow infoduming which I'm sure they do then she's probably very skilled at deflecting info that plus peoples bias to infodunping here is why shes still alive and we lynched a civ.
Oh so you're saying we were on mafia before the CFDs? Interesting.

Your sabie reasoning is trash
And I think his Sabie reasoning is pretty good. Something strange there as far as the old lady goes and her actions re: Wilgy don’t help her case one bit.

"She's probably very skilled at deflecting because she played elsewhere" is absolutely terrible justification

Like, show me how's she's deflecting and maybe you have a case. Asserting it's true because of reasoning that turned out to be completely wrong seems like maybe the kind of thing you shouldn't agree with

And this isn't me defending sabie because I've had my own reasons for suspecting her. But this feels crazy manufactured.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:28 pm I feel a kinship to Sig because nobody ever gets what the fuck we’re talking about and it always gets us in trouble. If he is scum then, oops, but I feel fine about him so far and this firing squad that’s been assembled against him feels unreasonable (dare I say ... manufactured?)

"firing squad assembled against him" I guess you mean Sloonei and myself saying "yuck" and "bad reasoning"?

K.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:42 pm Given Sloonei is posting at a frequency of 10 players it's probably fair to say.

(this was going to be a picture of heavy weapons guy shooting lots of bullets as a joke about Sloonei's posting frequency but then I found this and it's amazing)

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:58 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:53 pm TBH I think our votes should he weighted by the number of posts we make each phase.
Imagine this as a mechanic in a future game. JFC.

There's a series on the Realms that's fairly roleplay intensive and has had XP mechanics based on post count several times. It's interesting.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:27 am
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:23 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:22 am
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:21 am Everyone has been looking at this game through the same one or two viewpoints.

I come in, offer another viewpoint, and what do I get? Persecution.

Y'all just aren't ready for the truths that I'm spitting.
Yeah I guess you might be right about Turnip Head not being Mafia and nutella being. That's an interesting theory. I'd like to sign up to your newsletter.
you fallacious ballerina, you've been spinning around the facts this whole game.

BUT

YOUR DANCING SHOES ARE BREAKING OPEN!

NO MORE TIPTOEING AROUND THE TRUTH, MAC!
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LoRab wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:02 am What are the actual seats of baddies dying 2 nights in a row? In particular on nights 1 and 2? I’m so used to games where night kills aren’t revealed that I’m actually not sure.

And an alternate theory: what if the trickster is an Indy role who kills every night? Juleit’s Death doesn’t read as a baddie dying. Not to mention that we have no idea who is killling. Personally, I’m Not going to push that people aren’t who they seem, but I’m not going to personally make that assumption. And I personally believe it’s a dangerous assumption to make.

Strongly leaning towards an INH vote. Possibly sabie.

So if we're not assuming any of the night deaths are who they say we are, we've got two civ lynches. Good luck hunting after throwing out 2/3rds of the hard info we have.

Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:00 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:55 am
LoRab wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:02 am What are the actual seats of baddies dying 2 nights in a row? In particular on nights 1 and 2? I’m so used to games where night kills aren’t revealed that I’m actually not sure.

And an alternate theory: what if the trickster is an Indy role who kills every night? Juleit’s Death doesn’t read as a baddie dying. Not to mention that we have no idea who is killling. Personally, I’m Not going to push that people aren’t who they seem, but I’m not going to personally make that assumption. And I personally believe it’s a dangerous assumption to make.

Strongly leaning towards an INH vote. Possibly sabie.
So if we're not assuming any of the night deaths are who they say we are, we've got two civ lynches. Good luck hunting after throwing out 2/3rds of the hard info we have.
Two civ lynches? Wilgy still screams Hollow Man to me

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:09 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:06 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:02 pmMy info isn’t stopped by anything I see on the front page. Not Hollowman. Not Trickster.
What about the 11 roles with *secrets* ?
What about certain squares that may mess with the info?
What about certain items that may mess with the info?
I guess we should just ignore info then, huh?

Where was this skepticism yesterday? You trusted your own info even after Wilgy flipped town.

Sounds to me like you want to discredit my info cause you don’t want me to lynch your buddies.

This stinks.

[VOTE: Tranq] aubergine

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:21 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:49 am I have a weird meta reason to think Speed isn’t bad. I’ve gotten him lynched or tried to several games in a row. Like 4 games in a row. We shared a square. I’ve expressed suspicion of him. Yet here I stand.

With that in mind, I should vote Sprityo or Sig.

Sprityo May have killed Nutella. With that in mind, I should vote Sprityo.

[VOTE: Sprityo] aubergine
May is a good month, but not my favorite

Why would I kill Nutella. And why would you think I kill Nutella?

Because you're mafia and trying to kill civs?

Trying to guess why kill targets are what they are is a silly game

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:42 pm The fact that juliets had the gentle Sheppard role and was also mafia makes me think that either roles and alignments were both randomized, or she was killed by the trickster, who is still alive and trying to mess with us. I realize for that to be true, the team with the trickster would have killed twice in a row. In a previous game I've played with two scum teams, if one scum team kills a member of the other team, they get to kill the next night as well. So it is possible.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:58 pm Next person to ask me why I suspect Sprityo over Sig is getting daykilled.

Isn't sig more suspicious than sprit tho

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:01 pm colonialbob

How do you respond to Sloonei accusing you of being a killer yesterday?

Did that happen? I didn't kill anybody so.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:44 pm I am exactly the hero we deserve.

This gives me hybridity flashbacks

(they end with me getting friendly fired by overconfident jack)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:28 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:27 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:20 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:09 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:00 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:57 pm Jack you dolt, I thought it was actually something Sloonei said (which I swear he hadn’t) and it was just you misplacing my name the whole time?

Linki: his bad dad
All anime characters look the same to me. That’s why I got you mixed up with DDL and Kyle.
Said the guy who is most definitely not wearing an anime character on his avatar.
What are you talking about, Sprityo?
Did Green Lantern fuse with Human Torch or something?
Something like that. Needs a Santa hat tho.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:29 pm Who wants to sit in a kiddie pool filled with tomato sauce and rub it all over themselves with me?

Probably Franki

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:10 pm SATONY

LIFTOACH PANDEMONIUM

ZAZAS

Good points

timmer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:22 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:25 pm also i clarified "it" in teh post below it juliets

in any case im referring to something else
I can't understand any posts about mirrors or anything else related to them. This makes my head spin.

Are you a vampire

Would appreciate thoughts on Jack's and my votes on Tranq.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:54 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:09 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:06 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:02 pmMy info isn’t stopped by anything I see on the front page. Not Hollowman. Not Trickster.
What about the 11 roles with *secrets* ?
What about certain squares that may mess with the info?
What about certain items that may mess with the info?
I guess we should just ignore info then, huh?

Where was this skepticism yesterday? You trusted your own info even after Wilgy flipped town.

Sounds to me like you want to discredit my info cause you don’t want me to lynch your buddies.
This stinks.

[VOTE: Tranq] aubergine

Tranq wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:32 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:58 pm Would appreciate thoughts on Jack's and my votes on Tranq.

I don't like them. What's your reasoning besides DH not liking a Day 0 poll post (i mean wtf) and my Wilgy vote? If i encounter any of you on a square i'll gladly tell you where i found the Mirror of Truth. Or maybe not as i wouldn't be surprised if the Tranq voters are annoyed Wilgy teammates.

Did you even read the post where I voted for you? Like, at all?

Tranq wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:17 am I think these INH and Sabie votes are silly and too easy.

Sabie's responses to Sprityo's infodump read genuine to me (I disagree with you here LoRab). As Lunalee said she responds calm and civ-like to the Woods Witch statement and that's literally all there is against her. Seen with a Jagged Blade does not mean she is a Jagged Blade. A Woods Witch is a high fantasy trope, their statements and prophecies never literally mean what they say. INH also seems to know what's up.

Anyone have any thoughts on my SVS vote? I know it's hard to make a case against her but I feel she's doing the same as she did to me in that Survivor game on RM a while ago.
I'm changing my vote to Quin who already has 1 vote and has done nothing but post nonsense.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:21 am Tranq is a civilian. I know this with 100% certainty.
Also I'm not voting anyone who claims i'm 100% civ

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:09 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:08 pm Why is it so hard for people to beieve that baddies sometimes just out themselves?

Like, LC did that in the last GoC.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:08 pm Tranq is giving me "too bad to be bad" gut feelings.
Wild that these posts were made back to back.

Right?

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:30 pm [VOTE: INSERTNAMEHERE] aubergine

Do it, bitch

So our current consensus is that the people who have acted bad have obviously been too bad so we shouldn't vote for them.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:17 pm What do you even think of this situation, Bob? Feels like you are showing some disdain for it, am I wrong?

Yep. Feels like people making excuses not to vote. The doubt of an INH scumslip I get, but I'm not really sure why people who believed it last night suddenly don't.

Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:58 pm ... oh and Tranq I guess.

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:04 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:58 pm ... oh and Tranq I guess.
I voted for him!

Why him over INH

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:20 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:12 pm So our current consensus is that the people who have acted bad have obviously been too bad so we shouldn't vote for them.

Which happens more often?

You think a player is super freaking bad and they turn out to be town.

A mafia player practically suicides with bad ideas, off reads and weird mechanical interpretations.

I feel like the first happens once a game and the second basically never. I’m aware it sets a bad precedent.

Who is suiciding?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:35 pm Like Tranq might be just weird, but INH is shady af. Mafia shady or indie shady? Lets figure out.

Please explain how of the two INH isn't the weird one

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:53 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:46 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:20 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:12 pm So our current consensus is that the people who have acted bad have obviously been too bad so we shouldn't vote for them.

Which happens more often?

You think a player is super freaking bad and they turn out to be town.

A mafia player practically suicides with bad ideas, off reads and weird mechanical interpretations.

I feel like the first happens once a game and the second basically never. I’m aware it sets a bad precedent.
Who is suiciding?
Tranq and INH but mostly Tranq.

Gonna have to walk me through this. How is this compatible with his behavior at EOD yesterday?

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:56 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:41 pm JoH is the person who told me the info I posted earlier.
Isn’t this a modkillable offense?
Here's the rule:

You may not discuss in-thread who you have had BTSC with, or discuss openly or in detail what was said in BTSC.
Now, if I was telling the truth, yes. Luckily for me, I was lying.

Saying you were lying about having BTSC with Jack is still technically talking about who you had BTSC with tho

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:00 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:53 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:46 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:20 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:12 pm So our current consensus is that the people who have acted bad have obviously been too bad so we shouldn't vote for them.

Which happens more often?

You think a player is super freaking bad and they turn out to be town.

A mafia player practically suicides with bad ideas, off reads and weird mechanical interpretations.

I feel like the first happens once a game and the second basically never. I’m aware it sets a bad precedent.
Who is suiciding?
Tranq and INH but mostly Tranq.
Gonna have to walk me through this. How is this compatible with his behavior at EOD yesterday?

Tranq, not INH

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:46 pm I know that DDL tried to explain that he feels like there are differences. There ARE differences. I still fail to see how someone could arrive at a Tranq is civ and INH is lynchable because the differences are not stark enough.

But, DDL got upset so he's probably civ eh.

Darkness or not Mac is seeing things clearly

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