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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:52 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:51 am What do you think this setup looks like?
Haven't the slightest clue. At 19, 15 vs 4 would be the closest to a raw balance. Independents change that though, as do the roles which could be anything. Who knows

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:53 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:41 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:52 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:51 am What do you think this setup looks like?
Haven't the slightest clue. At 19, 15 vs 4 would be the closest to a raw balance. Independents change that though, as do the roles which could be anything. Who knows
I've seen you do more detailed analysis with similar levels of scarce info.

Though we did give you shit last time you did it so I get if you don't wanna do it again.
The issue is the number of players. It’s easier to guess how 12 players may be aligned, because there are only a small number of viable possibilities. With 19 there are numerous permutations that could work.

15:4 or 14:5 or 14:4:1 or 13:4:1:1 or 13:3:3 or 12:3:3:1 or [etc]

i think jay is bad. i don't think there's an independent in this game and if there is, they aren't my threat which would mean they are either survival roles or a threat to the mafia team. does jay seem like he knows that from this analysis?

[VOTE: triple j] aubergine - what say you on this matter?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:38 am
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:05 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:27 pm We’re all lined up at the starting line. and Dunya stars running the wrong way on the track and then Nutella runs into the stands and I’m just over here wondering what I missed.

Kites and Luna? Wat?
yeah? and? so? where's your vote mr. ofhearts2005?
On my suspect.

[VOTE: Spacedaisy] aubergine

Why’s your vote, Miss Unya?

lacking oomph. daisy ain't getting lynched today. who's a suspect beyond daisy/juliets, jack?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:06 am What about those posts suggests to you that I know anything about that?

you're not understanding me. i'm saying you don't and that's why i suspect you. you're pushing possible scenarios in your examples where an independent that could be a threat to town exists. i'm telling you there isn't one.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:10 am I am not privileged to that information. Why do you think what you think?

because i am privileged to know there aren't any. since i'm town, i'm gonna go on a limb and say you're not. fight me.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:11 am
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:40 am i hate jack's rainbow list and not because it lacked any colors, but because i don't actually believe he believes spacedaisy and juliets are his biggest scum reads in the game. even after he explained it to me like he was talking to an 8yr old.

moving jack down my rainbow.

Why don’t you believe me? It’s not rocket science. There’s a clear difference in how Daisy treats Mac and Juliets even though my post was about the two of them equally. She defends only Juliets even though she has Juliets down as scum. She doesn’t defend Mac even though she doesn’t have a scumread on him. Why is townDaisy defending her scumread?

actually, the hot take seemed like it was more about juliets. that's how i read it certainly. that's how daisy read it probably. i'm not bothered at all by her interpretation.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:15 am Suspect me for that if you like, I really don't care.

k

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] read below. she's already said you're not all mafia together. you're a bigger scum read to her than juliets. if you're bad, juliets probably isn't. where's the issue in defending juliets against you?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:01 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:24 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:21 pm Current gut read after having caught up

Jack - bad
Jay - bad
Dunya - Town
Luna - Town
Mata - Town
Nova - Town
Juliets - slight bad lean
Speed - Town
Nutella - rude

Everyone else is null.
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Why are Jay, Jack and maybe Juliets bad?

Is it because our names start with the letter J?
I don’t think you all are together. I think one or two of you are but I’m not sure which ones.

Juliets I don’t feel the normal confused/trying to understand vibe I get from her posts. She seems more confident in her reads than I expect from civ Juliets.

Jay, it’s in the way he has responded to dunya. She pressed to understand why two things read differently because she didn’t see a difference. A valid question imo. His response was , she should know me better than that. An implicationhe thinks she is bad. Then a short time later he calls her good, I don’t see a natural evolution of opinion in there. It looks bad to me.

Jack, you pushed Juliets for her joke questions about Mac/nova. I’ve only played two game series this year and even I knew what she was talking about. You presented it in a manner as if she only asked the questions as if she already knew they were on different teams, but that was t an accurate representation. Looks bad to me.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:05 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:32 pm You think Jay and Jack could be bad together?? Or are they completely separate suspicions without teammate compatibility taken into account bc I would be very surprised.

See the glory of the royal scam
I trend towards if Jack is bad the other two probably are not. Jay could be a teammate withhjuliets, but I wouldn’t say that is a sure thing if one of them is bad they both are. It’s possible, but I’m just spitting out my gut readability independent of each other right now. I don’t believe all three are bad together, no.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:21 am @dunya, Jack doesn't seem to know what you're talking about either. What does that mean to you?

fine. i'll drop it.

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

why would town mac give dunya an easy day green pass just because she hasn't said something "scummy"? other people have found things scummy in what i've said. i don't feel you're being genuine and the sarcasm on me was lost.

i'm not even here to play my hardest civ game, so don't tell me my "civ" is shining through. explain what gave you good vibes about me or this becomes as bad as elohcin's "green" to luna that everyone took issue with imo.

nutella is one of my top suspects. i wouldn't oppose her lynch.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:31 am
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:30 am [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

why would town mac give dunya an easy day green pass just because she hasn't said something "scummy"? other people have found things scummy in what i've said. i don't feel you're being genuine and the sarcasm on me was lost.

i'm not even here to play my hardest civ game, so don't tell me my "civ" is shining through. explain what gave you good vibes about me or this becomes as bad as elohcin's "green" to luna that everyone took issue with imo.
“Mac’s not getting lynched today.”

who is getting lynched today?

damn it jack, lose the quote pyramids.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:30 am Linki - Dunya is bad.

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:32 am

By uh...scumreading me.

For pushing Juliets. That’s the important part.

her read on juliets was independent of you being mafia. you weren't w/w in her reads. you were her bigger suspect. it's not rocket science. if she accuses you and defends juliets while doing that, it's because if you're mafia she think juliets would be town. her >weaker< reasons for suspecting juliets had nothing to do with you or even mac and the nova thing.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:36 am For real though I'm here.

I'm off the drugs and feel a little bit crappy. What should I look at?

jack thinks you're town. what do you make of that? in fact, you're his biggest town read.

sorry you're feeling crappy, speedchuck. don't feel like you have to play in your condition.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:38 am Time for lunch.

it's 10.40am. you gotta wait till 11 at least for lunch. otherwise it's still breakfast.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:42 am
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:37 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:36 am For real though I'm here.

I'm off the drugs and feel a little bit crappy. What should I look at?
jack thinks you're town. what do you make of that? in fact, you're his biggest town read.
Sounds kinda ridiculous at first glance.

Even if I have the towniest tone ever (which I'm pretty sure I do) is there nothing more substantial in this game than a tone-read?
That's not rhetorical. I'm asking. How much stock would you put in a tone-read, dunya, JaggedJimmyJay?

for me it depends on who i am tone reading and what post i am judging. i feel like i can better tone read someone like juliets than i can someone like nutella.

shit guys, need a self imposed mafia ban after this game. i hate myself. bye.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:52 am Makes me wonder if I'm easy to toneread.
If anyone can, it's probably Jack. I've been mafia with him multiple times, and he's caught/bussed me before.

you aren't easy for me to toneread.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:52 am
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:48 am shit guys, need a self imposed mafia ban after this game. i hate myself. bye.
Are you o[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]

yes, yes, i just post too much and delay other shit. i'm sorry everyone. lol. someone should create a role for me where i can only make 5 posts a day.

wow i screwed that up massively and i'm not even on mobile

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:58 am I thought we had 48 hours?

sidemissions have to be 24/24 phases.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:13 am
Kites wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:11 am uliets - i also think this was an interesting post
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:28 pm Hahahaha - will nova and Mac be on the same side? Will they both win or lose? OR will one of them move ahead in the only game that counts?
but I don’t see this being a baddie post, more like carefree joking that is a good thing. overall i like you. for now.
Your only opinion on Juliets is that a post of hers is "interesting".

i have never understood the "interesting" tell. that said, it has made me way more mindful as saying it even as a civilian because people jump all over that stuff. what's wrong with finding things interesting? i dunno.

i feel like he took a stance on where he is on the controversial juliets post. he deemed it was juliets being playful and that's overall a good look. he didn't say it was tmi or whatever else people have concluded.

i liked kites post a lot. felt very authentic and fire emblem-like.

jack, you never answered me. who's bad beyond juliets/daisy?

you're being unreasonably stubborn. you did exactly this to jay and me in community and you were wrong about both of us.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:32 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:27 pm jack, you never answered me. who's bad beyond juliets/daisy?

you're being unreasonably stubborn. you did exactly this to jay and me in community and you were wrong about both of us.
Are you sure about that?

wait, was jack mafia in community? i'm pretty sure he wasn't. i kinda sidelined watched after i was n1 killed.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:38 pm I wasn’t even in Community.

what was the last game we played together? lol. that one.

my memory is so bad these days it's embarrassing.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:44 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:31 am
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:30 am [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

why would town mac give dunya an easy day green pass just because she hasn't said something "scummy"? other people have found things scummy in what i've said. i don't feel you're being genuine and the sarcasm on me was lost.

i'm not even here to play my hardest civ game, so don't tell me my "civ" is shining through. explain what gave you good vibes about me or this becomes as bad as elohcin's "green" to luna that everyone took issue with imo.
“Mac’s not getting lynched today.”
This is what I'm thinking. Does baddie dunya toss votes here and there before landing on her actual choice? I find this behavior odd.

you find it odd for me to switch my votes throughout the day?

i might not have agreed with lunalee's points, but i didn't feel like they were things scum lunalee would say (especially the "interesting" tell <which i liked her response to be about, reminded me of that game she played after ancient greece where she told people not to do something because it got her lynched before> and follow up post where she says "awww i almost want to believe you, but nah"). that would be almost be a mocking tone if she were mafia, and i don't feel like it's in line with luna's game personality in the same way i don't feel juliets would do that. i'd expect it of jack, nutella, speedchuck even.

if nutella and lunalee were both off the table today, who is the top suspect?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:55 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:51 pm i might not have agreed with lunalee's points, but i didn't feel like they were things scum lunalee would say (especially the "interesting" tell <which i liked her response to be about, reminded me of that game she played after ancient greece where she told people not to do something because it got her lynched before> and follow up post where she says "awww i almost want to believe you, but nah"). that would be almost be a mocking tone if she were mafia, and i don't feel like it's in line with luna's game personality in the same way i don't feel juliets would do that. i'd expect it of jack, nutella, speedchuck even.

if nutella and lunalee were both off the table today, who is the top suspect?
Who do you suspect?

mac, nutella, one or more of the inactives/lurkers (there's a whole long list of them), speedchuck atm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:55 pm What makes you so confident in two baddies among DDL, Mac, and Jules?

and why doesn't she think you can be mafia? [mention]nutella[/mention]

i forgot about jay because of this morning's embarrassing sticky situation, but he's also still a suspect.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:01 pm That's fine to have your own reasoning. I am just telling you what I am getting from dunya's voting. It seems like she is just placing votes willy nilly before settling on who she actually wants to vote for.

hahaha i so love you elohcin

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:09 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:06 pm You say you're civiness is shining brightly and we should be able to see it, help me see it. Why are you a civilian?
My tone and sass mostly. I know you'll just say I can fake that but I really can't, last time I was bad I was obvbad

eh. lackluster defence. anyone can say bad words and get angry or riled up. you do it every game i've played / modded / observed within the last year tbh lol.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:17 pm And I've been town in all of them.

my memory sucks but that cant be true. pretty sure you've been mafia in 2018.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:33 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:30 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:28 pm I don't see what y'all see on Mac. At least not anymore.

Feels to me like it revolves mostly about how he's handling you (looking at you Dunya and Jay) rather than his overall play.
What is to like?
I liked his early work today. Beside his handling of you, what do you have against him?

his handling of me. which jay just parroted to suit him.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:34 pm Everyone: I could lynch Nutella and will vote for her
Also everyone: I could lynch Juliets but I won’t.

nutella is the leading wagon. i wouldn't vote for juliets today.

can't help but feel that post where nutella said "elohcin always misreads me / jay will come around / then two of ddl, mac and juliets are bad" was tmi on elohcin. maybe even tmi on jay. just leaves a bad taste in my mouth despite the explanation.

tons of linki. maybe a sign to go breathe.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:43 pm Dunya, what does tmi on me and jay mean in response to nutella? Like, are we not supposed to bring up old games like that? Or is it like the truth being stretched?

too much info, cos mafia know who's good.

like she hadn't considered the possibility of you or jay being bad. i might be willing to give the benefit of the doubt where jay is concerned because all of his posts, but i don't feel like she had any reason to town read you at that point. she did say she had entertained the possibility of you being bad after i asked, but she didn't care...and i didn't care for that response.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:48 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:33 pm Why is Juliets not the counterwagon here?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:36 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:34 pm linki - Jay where do you see me struggling to keep up? I just got back from the gym if it's some recent thing.
It's right now. You're a little slow to the posting trigger. If you just got home then do your thing, and I'll see how it goes.

I wouldn't lynch someone for being a bit behind at times. That can be so skewed by RL circumstances and passion level, like, c'min.

yeah. i don't even like that fire under someone's feet to play at a faster pace than they are comfortable with. juliets posting in rapid succession and keeping up with the thread every right now would seem weird and off meta to me.

you claimed at the right time, juliets. well done.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:31 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:28 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:25 pm I was more moved slightly by your case that he is afraid of you. But this is Mac, when has Mac ever seemed afraid of anything? He dgaf.
true, but mac does pocket people and comes across ever so accommodating like he did to jay in ass class.

fucking linki stop

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:37 pm Mac hasn't even been here to respond to JJJ's accusation. That is unfortunate.

it's 6 something am in australia. i don't think he'll be back before eod.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:36 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:32 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:30 pm Hey my color is back.

Linki: Why do we believe Juliets’s claim?
Because her personality exists.
What does that have to do with her claim?

If you (meaning anyone) just townread Juliets, okay. But all the “this is a good claim” is setting off my warning bells. It’s a claim I’ve never seen and a claim that never needs to be proven because mafia don’t shoot a night stump or whatever. It doesn’t make me suspect her more but why would it make anyone suspect her less?
I think certain people are less likely than others to make up claims period, and I also think this would make a silly fake.

i'm not saying i doubt juliets but that is silly. 1. epi could have given fake claims. 2. someone on her team could have suggested fake claims (i do this early every game when i'm mafia and the host didn't provide us with fake claims). 3. why is it silly? it basically helps ensure she wouldn't be nk'd cos pointless and not lynched cos she a stub.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:40 pm At this point my greatest motivation is not nutella.

why? i don't like how you flipped a switch without explaining.

everyone should vote for whoever THEY feel is the best lynch, not because someone told them to vote for someone. please make sure you're happy with where your vote is. if everyone played that way, there'd be more satisfactory lynches.

linki: what? did you even play on rym? we always had fakeclaims. i gave fake claims in Gossip Girl, even.

a closed setup is more likely to have fake claims provided. the mafia have no idea what roles exist, fake claiming a role that someone actually has is a death wish and basically kills the game if it reaches a point where everyone has "claimed"

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:45 pm JFC

roles are not characters

and who said they were??

Kites wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:50 pm fuck it

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

balls to the wall

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:50 pm This is the dumbest conversation in EOD history. Is juliets bad or not?

no. and even if she was, we'd need more than 8 minutes to process this claim. she isn't being lynched today.

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