The Syndicate

when is sig due to be back from inactivity land?

Daisy we're gonna win this for you! I know how much effort you put into this game

I also suggest we never speculate on placing roles on players out loud. do it in your notes, but not itt.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:09 pm I'm actually not having a jolly ol time. I'm sick. I still have work this week...which is good with Christmas coming, but I have a cold, so not fun. Every time I read a page even when caught up, there is another page to read. And when I go to sleep, I wake up like 10 pages behind. I cannot think straight 'cause I'm sick. Went to the store to get meds and left my phone, that's how much I can't think straight. Sloon is being nit picky with me. I think he expects more from me than I can intellectually give. I'm not an intellectual like so many of you here. I play for fun and to try to keep my mind as sharp as possible as I age. Did I mention I'm sick and feel like crap. My meds didn't even seem to help.

I don't feel a scum eloh would manipulate us in this way, writing a paragraph+ about how ill she feels. I feel this was a genuine cry of frustration. She got really sick, and got behind in the thread. I'm moving Eloh to higher town read now.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:29 pm @Kylemii

It's nothing personal. I worked 30 hours in the last 3 days and just clocked out. My posts are alternating between the most recent thing aimed at me or that I find super interesting when I refresh the page and my catch-up from 5 pages back. I promise to answer you tomorrow or maybe even tonight. :cheers:

this is genuine here at that point of time, I really believe he overlooked Kyle because of that. However, for my records (I like to keep where my head is at on paper), when I called Jack doing the same thing (ie. overlooking my posts), he was constantly online itt and at times even posting to others. He did later use "I was at work" as a defense, but it didn't rub me the right way.

defence*****

*eye twitch*

I hate no editing typos rule

I just did a quick glance at Wilgy posts, I'm going to go through all his posts shortly (they're not that many). I'm leaning bad now before I dig any deeper. It's Day 4 and Wilgy has not provided even 1 rainbow list, or even any kind of list of anything. That's not the Supercivvy Wilgy I've witnessed in play before

I have even placed an initial vote on Wilgy. Happy Day 4.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:36 am Quin/Sloonei not w/w imo.

Jack pointed this out on Day 1. Day 4 now and I agree very much. If one is scum, my money would be on Quin (I'll iso him later)

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:50 pm And I just realized it's Night 1. Read the poll and thought day 1 ended tonight at midnight. Whoops.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:38 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:16 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:53 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:08 am Put a vote on Spacedaisy. Do we believe her guilt to be coming from a place of empathy for game hosts everywhere, or from her role card?

I'm not really buying the idea that she feels guilty about rolling Mafia, making it affect her very first post in the game.

WHo the hell feels guilty about being mafia anyway?

I do. I don't like killing my friends. Choosing who to take out of a game feels bad.

Are these posts genuine or not genuine? I need some opinions from other people on this before I share my possibly biased outtake.

Is Wilgy playing a guilty game?

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:05 am I just did a quick glance at Wilgy posts, I'm going to go through all his posts shortly (they're not that many). I'm leaning bad now before I dig any deeper. It's Day 4 and Wilgy has not provided even 1 rainbow list, or even any kind of list of anything. That's not the Supercivvy Wilgy I've witnessed in play before

He made an ISO post of "players he's most curious of" -- -- which was some JoH posts. That was Day 1; he promised Epi or nutella iso next later that evening. Day 4, no additional ISOs were made. Could be time constraint. Could me scummy lurker Wilgy we saw in Seinfeld.

I was pinged by Jay's lack of focus tbh and the fact he didn't direct a single suspicion towards me. That's very unlike him. He usually kills my game when I'm townie, and frustrates me till I start dreaming of rage quitting. :P When I named him as a suspect, I hoped it would trigger a different kind of response where I could be sure of his towniness, as I have been in past games. How will Jay respond? That is a huge tell all in itself.

I feel a bit mean though, because I know what he's going through IRL. He barely has time to talk to me, even. It's close to end of semester and we have exams and assignments due.

I believe he replaced into this game same reason I did (a sort of sense of obligation, let's say), and while I pretty much screwed off my exam studying time to get up to date with the thread the last 2 days, I think Jay values his education before mafia (smart guy. smarter than me, probably. definitely).

I was never going to go through with lynching him without giving him time to clear himself or sufficiently fend off accusations thrown his way. The fact he has so much suspicion on him and didn't bother going through them all does not strike me as "giving up" as Sloonei put it (and I'm surprised he could think Jay would give up). On the contrary, it had an opposite effect on me and I've played plenty with Jay (and scum Jay) to know that like me, he'd defend himself till the last dying breath. It's basically like this grad student has exams man. Let's cut him some slack for not spending 5 hours playing online mafia.

no lynch Jay today. I urge you all to reconsider and look elsewhere.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:37 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:51 am

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:09 pm I'm actually not having a jolly ol time. I'm sick. I still have work this week...which is good with Christmas coming, but I have a cold, so not fun. Every time I read a page even when caught up, there is another page to read. And when I go to sleep, I wake up like 10 pages behind. I cannot think straight 'cause I'm sick. Went to the store to get meds and left my phone, that's how much I can't think straight. Sloon is being nit picky with me. I think he expects more from me than I can intellectually give. I'm not an intellectual like so many of you here. I play for fun and to try to keep my mind as sharp as possible as I age. Did I mention I'm sick and feel like crap. My meds didn't even seem to help.

I don't feel a scum eloh would manipulate us in this way, writing a paragraph+ about how ill she feels. I feel this was a genuine cry of frustration. She got really sick, and got behind in the thread. I'm moving Eloh to higher town read now.

If Eloh complaining (which is fine, I don't begrudge) about being busy/tired/sick/not caught up makes her town, Eloh is always town.

I think she's really town but this isn't why.

absolutely, I urge you to follow your instinct. It just felt authentic and townie to my senses.

That changed this morning though. I'll go into that in a little while.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:54 pm I can promise you regardless of alignment it's a time constraint. Civ Wilgy or Scum Wilgy, I frown upon lurking.

What I find interesting is that instead of gauging my reads and what I've provided, you target the quantity. Why not ask for more if that's what you want? I've provided thoughts as I've caught up. Where are your comments on those?

Also Rainbows are dumb. Players are either good or bad.

It feels like a lot of general comments and observations, throwing in some questions for good measure. It doesn't feel like someone who is taking any sort of significant stance. This far into the game, I find it hard to believe any townie wouldn't have made strong stances yet, even if one that we can recognize him for. You haven't even made good/bad player lists. Sorry Wilgy, I just don't think you're townie-centric this game. I mean, I defended you in Pirates and you didn't even say anything. But here, you've been less authentic and clear in your opinions and stances than when you were playing with emojis imo.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:15 am As y'all know, Thursdays are rough for me as Im put of the house basically all day and focused soley on the rugrats. It's now Friday but tomorrow is my daughter's birthday party and so today is another full day. I'm really not trying to cheat here, but I thinknits kind of crucial we actually get a baddie today. So...can someone kind of recap for me a little of what's goibg on. I know the lynch was pretty quickly switched to mesk. I know I had my doubts about her civvieness, but who ever actually listens to me? Did Jay stir up suspicion on her and eventually get her lynched? Is this why several of you are voting for him?

everyone is going to laugh and make fun of me again, and I don't care. I think language is important. If we get a sense of guiltiness from a player, there's something to be read. Likewise, when Eloh says "she's really not trying to cheat here", it strikes me as someone who felt guilty I took her heartfelt sickness/lurking post to mean townie, and I may have kind of manipulated her into thinking I believed "she's not an evil woman, she won't lie about using sickness as an excuse to get off the hook for lurking / sidelining". The result? She feels bad about being "under the radar" and possibly being a town read due to inactivity -- "cheating"



I've had neutral leaning bad, then bad, then neutral leaning bad feelings about her all game. The only reason my suspicions are not sticking is because everyone is defending her meta, saying she looks town. I haven't played with her before so I can't claim I know what her scum/town distinctions are, but I know I've been leaning bad all game.

where my head is at right now:

good
dunya
Dragon D. Luffy
Epignosis
Long Con
nutella
sig
Sloonei
JaggedJimmyJay

leaning good
insertnamehere
colonialbob (I still need to iso Bob, but he's been spontaneous and townie-minded the last few days)
Kylemii

leaning bad
Jackofhearts2005 ( I need to reevaluate Jack after his passion-filled eod 3 defence, but I think I'm leaning good on him at this point)
malakim2099 (sorry don't hate me, I need more content from you, try to post as you read, even if it's things from day 1...that's what I did, it's very enlightening and can help us form a better read of you, and you a better read on us)
Quin / speedchuck (1 of them, not both...leaning more scummy on speedchuck this last night phase, I'm getting a bit of dejavu from our last game together in tone, but I haven't isod either quin or speed yet so I'll get to that)

bad
Elohcin
DrWilgy

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:32 pm If not Jay, then who should we lynch?

I'm going with Wilgy.

Do you think Wilgy has had any strong opinions in this game?

Another red flag re Jay was how quickly people followed my lead on a comment (which was mostly me pinging Jay because he hadn't questioned me/suspected me even once). I don't like it when people pile up so quickly. I much prefer a rough lynch where I have to fight for a following.

I'd also like to really look into what happened Day 3. There was a lead on lurker Dom. I still don't buy the reasons why everyone went out of their way to choose one lurker over another inactive. I read everyone's defences on why it happened. I'm sure some of them are genuine, but I'm also sure some aren't.

I wonder if Quin ever imagined his decision to start a bandwagon on Lasagna would succeed.

Let's find replacements for them! Hey, anyone wanna read 76 pages of mafia?

are you keeping your vote on JJJ, DDL?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:04 pm I'm also bothered by the lack of votes in this day.

well, it's Friday night and Marmot's EoD phase means we have like 206583695 hours left

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:33 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:26 pm I feel my thoughts are very much in sync with DDL.

I am hesitant to vote Jay with him, but "I like this Jack more than Day 1" Jack sums up my exact feelings.

What about voting Malakim with me?

I like your gall and how you're leading stuff.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:34 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:49 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:54 pm I can promise you regardless of alignment it's a time constraint. Civ Wilgy or Scum Wilgy, I frown upon lurking.

What I find interesting is that instead of gauging my reads and what I've provided, you target the quantity. Why not ask for more if that's what you want? I've provided thoughts as I've caught up. Where are your comments on those?

Also Rainbows are dumb. Players are either good or bad.

It feels like a lot of general comments and observations, throwing in some questions for good measure. It doesn't feel like someone who is taking any sort of significant stance. This far into the game, I find it hard to believe any townie wouldn't have made strong stances yet, even if one that we can recognize him for. You haven't even made good/bad player lists. Sorry Wilgy, I just don't think you're townie-centric this game. I mean, I defended you in Pirates and you didn't even say anything. But here, you've been less authentic and clear in your opinions and stances than when you were playing with emojis imo.

What? Less authentic and clear? Comparing clarity in a game where I was only using emojis (and keeping up mind you)?

What is a strong stance to you? Apparently not calling Jack bad for his play day one, nor agreeing that Jaybis a good lynch. Those are just weak stances.

Dunya, it feels like your trying to case me with "Wilgy is bad because of XYZ", when you can just say "I'm tone reading Wilgy as bad." Because of this I do feel that its disgenuine.

I'll tell you what a strong townie stance is: it's having strong suspicions. Just clearing people off is more a scum stance-tactic. Does that make sense to you?

You were only using emojis, but those emojis actually reflected better on you. You were calling people good/bad with them. That's townie as hell.

This "not calling Jack bad for his play day one" and "not agreeing on a Jay lynch" is not necessarily townie as hell.

I hope you can see where I am coming from; I'm super genuine and super serious and extremely demanding.

basically, people who scum hunt solely by eliminating who is townie are more likely to be scum in my eyes because scum team know exactly who is town.

Townies are suspicious as hell because we don't know shit except who we are. We are confident as hell about out townieness. Everyone else? They're all scum till they prove otherwise. And along the way, even townies will do things that trigger our scum detectors.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:43 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:38 pmI'll tell you what a strong townie stance is: it's having strong suspicions. Just clearing people off is more a scum stance-tactic. Does that make sense to you?

You were only using emojis, but those emojis actually reflected better on you. You were calling people good/bad with them. That's townie as hell.

This "not calling Jack bad for his play day one" and "not agreeing on a Jay lynch" is not necessarily townie as hell.

I hope you can see where I am coming from; I'm super genuine and super serious and extremely demanding.

So you want mor quantity from me?

no...I never complained about low post count or quantity of post. I want more genuine, hard stances. I would understand your hesitation in that you can't give me a genuine scum read without outing a scum-mate, but try.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:45 pm @malakim2099 would you please do me a solid and describe your past mafia experience, to whatever extent you're comfortable with?

I suggest you take a look at the street fighter game: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... alakim2099[/mention]
He was scum here.

[mention]Kylemii[/mention] here's the link: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... =28&t=1398

mal was scum here.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:57 pm Okay...this is weird. I'm not caught up. Trying though. But I told Juliets that I would try to get into discord today since I haven't been in there is probably a couple weeks. I went in there just now and dunya has posted a pic in there of her laptop and it has a quote of mine and her talking about me feeling guilty or whatever. She also says I'm lurking. She refers to my post when I ask for a catch up and say something like, I'm not trying to cheat. I feel the need to address this. First of all...what is that doing in discord. Second, I'm not lurking. I have been super busy as I have said. I have kept the page open so I can read here and there throughout the day as Im waiting on cupcakes to bake or nuts to roast or laundry to heck...food to finish heating in the microwave. I haven't really had the cahnce to actually post though b/c I'm STILL catching up even now. And I was not feeling guilty. I just was hoping for a catch up on the EoD and night since I wasn't here really. I called it cheating because I was asking someone else to tell me what happened rather than reading it myself. Anyway... still catching up.

sorry, I was posting a photo of my cat (as I ado daily). I had this thread opened when I took the photo. I'm not discussing the game in discord

I already explained why I town read sig, it's 1.05am, I really can't be arsed to explain it again right now tbh but JoH recently posted a link to that. I've played a few games, all town sig, and this is exactly what sig does. Those posts he has contributed, nothing stands out for me at all.

As for why you and speedchuck: I think you're an unlikely pairing, but I feel one of you is bad. After my isos I'll let you know who's good and who's bad.

I knew it! I'm never feeling sorry for you again, Jay

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:00 am

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:56 am

I knew it! I'm never feeling sorry for you again, Jay

No you didnt. You tried to save him last night.

I meant I knew it. He was my scum read, I was the first person to call him out and say he was way off, until my empathy got the best of me with his RL world info.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:42 am Dunya is bad because she makes fake cases, votes with the mafia and then goes "Ah shucks I knew I was wrong. Why did I vote to save Jimmy instead of lynch him?" Her fakest case involves distancing from Jimmy.

I voted for Wilgy first. It was fucking 3am. I'm not staying up till 6 am to see how Jay responds and votes, so you can't blame me for him choosing to tag along with me.

Also, I am an empathetic person. My gut read is very strong usually, like when I had a epiphany about Jay and named him one of my three baddies....I said I was positive he was bad. but I am empathetic and I know what Jay is going through so rather than take his post with a grain of salt, I felt sorry for him. I didn't want to lynch him yet. He had a huge exam yesterday, and I knew if he was town, he would be back to his usual self after that exam. I don't care what everyone makes me out to be, I'll never try to change that part of me and I tend to bring it to mafia even though people can manipulate me that way. So be it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:41 am I voted for speedchuck to make reactions happen. I can't read him right now and wanted to talk about him.
I voted for Wilgy because I liked chuck's respinse. I still think Jay coukd have been putting distance between himself and teammate wilgy.
I voted for Jay because he was bad. Jack is tinfoiling hard against me.

I agree with everything except I'm not sure yet how I feel about him keeping his last vote on Wilgy. Gives me creepy feelings.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:44 am There was an attempt to save Jay last night. There are baddies among those. And there was a movement to bring the Jay lynch back to life that came near EoD. Those in it are civs. Once I'm back to town I'll try to piece it together. But if someone can do it for me I'll love you forever.

I'm pretty sure some heavy bussing occurred last night as well, considering Jay's burn-out state and grad student end of semester schedule, so don't take your focus completely away from people who were pro-Jay lynch either.

malakim2099 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:57 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:54 am

malakim2099 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:52 am Well, I freely admit to being suckered.

Though I will say when you lynch me tomorrow you are gonna be very disappointed.

And yeah, I don't know if there's a term for getting suckered into playing defense but that's how I feel atm.

Stop whining about votes that haven't even been made and start hunting scum.

...

Fuck you. I am.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:58 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:50 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:41 am I voted for speedchuck to make reactions happen. I can't read him right now and wanted to talk about him.
I voted for Wilgy because I liked chuck's respinse. I still think Jay coukd have been putting distance between himself and teammate wilgy.
I voted for Jay because he was bad. Jack is tinfoiling hard against me.

Bullshit.

You were waffley. "I don't know what's going on."

Wilgy is not w/w with all the other baddies. Why would they push Wilgy early and stay there if he was their teammate? Why not just bus Jimmy?

I'd be more likely to believe you had a nervous tick that caused you to place bad votes than this.

Okay, go ahead. I don't feel like defending myself over this. I started the day 3 push against Jay but bailed to Mesk because I felt bad about it on a personal level. I was on Jay for the entire day yesterday except for a 2 hour stretch where my confidence wavered a little bit and I wanted to check the pulse of the thread. Then I went back to Jay because he was my clear cut top suspect. If you want to actually read my posts I think you can trace how my thoughts developed over time. I doubt myself a lot. I can't help it. I'm not going to apologize for that.

I believe you about Jay, Sloonei. Empathy united.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:42 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:40 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:09 am I'm still not voting for malakim any time soon.

Who would you want to vote for if you could right now? Because this page is just you taking Jay's most likely teammates and throwing them in the trash.

That's because the line of thinking is backwards here. I can't stress this enough: Jay would have preferred to be bussed rather than saved yesterday.

I don't think DDL and Jack have as much experience with scum Jay. How many times has completed a scum game on here? (I don't count the SF game since he got replaced Day 1)

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:14 pm I have not read anything after the point at which Sloonei began writing [i/]War and Peace[/i],but I have a theory rolling around in my head. I will report after I have had to chance to shower, eat, and do basketball stuff.

interesting.

I believed you dont do sports

at least someone else focuses on language. Now I don't feel so bad about nitpicking on "cheating" and "mislynch"

I don't care what you'll all say about that "mislynch" episode, but the fact is: Epi's post was all about lynching him (sure, mislynch was implied, but even EPI who is sure of his own towniness didn't use that word....), LC responded by using "lynch" too, because LC believes Epi would be a lynching not a mislynch. If Jack really believed Epi was scum, then lynching him wouldn't be a mislynch. I don't get why no one is triggered by this (well, speedchuck nmentioned it was "odd" so maybe he's Jack's scummate, creating a bit of distance from him there for later application--I'm talking out of my ass here because I havent gone through Jack/chuck's case together, indeed I don't remember a lot of confrontation).

I mean, Jack's eased his way back into a lot of people's good books, but IMO he's still scum. It's just not something someone would say in a sentence when talking about scumspect. If he's townie-minded and sees Epi as scum, he would have used lynch.

I can't shake that off no matter how much I try and even if everyone else thinks it's weak, Jack has a lot of other question marks around him. I'll try to look into them before end of night.

Also, another look at Wilgy because after what happened last night with Jay, I'm not so sure what he would do to get me to back off Wilgy if Wilgy was indeed his scum mate.

And cbob seems town imo.

Quin seems town.

I need to review why everyone, including Jay, thought nutella was 100% cleared eod 1. I didn't make as much sense of it as everyone else, but kinda went with it cos that's what everyone was doing. If she was Jay's scummate, she bussed him hard.

also as of today I am applying a strict no empathy rule for this game because my gut is right and people playing with emotions on a RL basis are mean (Jay didn't do this but since we so actively communicate outside games, it was a free giveaway).

Are you dying of the flu? I don't care. Are you behind on 20 reports? Couldn't give a damn.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:25 pm but now that I have to explain the premise of the joke it just seems kind of mean spirited. Sorry Marmot, love you.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:16 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:09 pm epig, the only reason I welcomed JJJ was so I could make fun of Marmots spelling mistake. I love making fun of people's spelling mistakes, it's like my favorite thing.

I made the malakim??? Post cus I'd never met or heard of malakim before on this website

*Marmot's

*mistakes; it's

Uh oh, who invited famous Victorian Era English writer and social critic Charles Dickens to play mafia with us and what did he do with our dear friend Epignosis?

He's an English teacher.

I think he indirectly complimented my typo fixes. Or made fun of me. Either way, I like to be a teacher's pet.

^ I re-read that post 4 times before submitting.

I don't think Kyle is scum anymore (omg here I go with my warped reads). We had a heated moment and bad things were exchanged. Kyle doesn't react that poorly over suspicion directed towards him when he's scum (I've played with scum Kyle before and called him out).

It is a weak reason to dismiss Kyle, but I believe him because he's a good person and it was a sincere apology and he's made a good effort to be as helpful and open as possible. It's reserved people I don't like.

I mean, where has Long Con disappeared to for example? After a heated Day 1 and 2, he's been much more quiet the last 2 day phases. I don't like that.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:47 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:43 pm It is a weak reason to dismiss Kyle, but I believe him because he's a good person and it was a sincere apology and he's made a good effort to be as helpful and open as possible. It's reserved people I don't like.

I mean, where has Long Con disappeared to for example? After a heated Day 1 and 2, he's been much more quiet the last 2 day phases. I don't like that.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:25 pm also as of today I am applying a strict no empathy rule for this game because my gut is right and people playing with emotions on a RL basis are mean (Jay didn't do this but since we so actively communicate outside games, it was a free giveaway).

Are you dying of the flu? I don't care. Are you behind on 20 reports? Couldn't give a damn.

Damn you soft.

hahahahaa. That happened before I applied the rule. My rule is as of today.

I was heavily leaning scum on Kyle before. I promise since I set this new rule for myself, I will review his case with fresh eyes.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:12 pm I regret not pursuing colonialbob more over the last couple of days. I never heard a good argument in favor of him being town and I haven't changed my mind on him. Digging through Jay Mountain only strengthened my read. Does anybody have an argument for colonialbob to be town?

Let me see when I iso bob what comes out. Expect it tonight.

can anyone say something for or against a speedchuck/Jack pairing.

It's late and I'm lazy at 2am.

I wanna do cbob and Jack before I go to sleep.