The Syndicate

Ok thanks! I guess we will find out soon enough.

Are we told when an entire mafia team is eliminated?

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:46 am 1) Nanook JPIC
2) Long Con
3) Falcon

Nanook isn't fully clear in my mind. Is there a chance Nook is in the other team and has a vig shot?

I guess there is always a chance but it feels really unlikely to me. There has been a lot of kills each night, I feel like the town would need a kill to balance it out. Also, if nanook was wolf why would he go for Dom with his extra kill and not try to get one of the confirmed town? I’ve been leaning town on nanook for a while so I trust this

I guess that is true LC, but still less likely I think.

I’m ok with the half day

JPIc isn’t totally clear for me yet. He volunteered his tracking info after nanook already said what he did

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:38 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:37 pm I have a two shot vig i tried to shoot Dom
I can confirm this

It was not mentioned that Marmot’s team was eliminated and someone said we would be told. (Hally maybe?)

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:02 pm
@Gavial [The Kitchen Brothers] has been eliminated.

" "
The Kitchen Brothers

[Passive] - The silent enforcers of the Kansas City Mob, the Kitchen Brothers do everything in pairs. They have two lives, they have 2 votes, and each night they may perform their actions twice. A day elimination consumes both lives, and the double-action doesn't affect the factional kills. If they lose a life, they will also lose their extra vote and actions.

[Passive] - The Kitchen Brothers will always clean after themselves and janitor their target if they perform the factional kill.
--- [Identical Twins] - If they perform the factional kill, they will not be seen visiting the target. [2-shots]

[Active] - Each night, the Kitchen Brothers may target a player and give them a beating. They will role-block them for the night. If they target the same player twice in a row, they will disable any passive they have the second night and drain their vote the following day.

Wincon - Eliminate all threats to the Kansas City Mafia

'Night' 3 starts.
Day 4 starts in 24 hours.

This role has two lives, so this team would have known one was used up. It would be a convenient fake claim to get a little townie credit.

I haven’t read back JPIC yet to see if votes/thread thoughts fit with being on that team btw. Just an idea I had.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:51 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:16 pm JPIc isn’t totally clear for me yet. He volunteered his tracking info after nanook already said what he did

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:38 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:37 pm I have a two shot vig i tried to shoot Dom
I can confirm this
It was not mentioned that Marmot’s team was eliminated and someone said we would be told. (Hally maybe?)

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:02 pm
@Gavial [The Kitchen Brothers] has been eliminated.

" "
The Kitchen Brothers

[Passive] - The silent enforcers of the Kansas City Mob, the Kitchen Brothers do everything in pairs. They have two lives, they have 2 votes, and each night they may perform their actions twice. A day elimination consumes both lives, and the double-action doesn't affect the factional kills. If they lose a life, they will also lose their extra vote and actions.

[Passive] - The Kitchen Brothers will always clean after themselves and janitor their target if they perform the factional kill.
--- [Identical Twins] - If they perform the factional kill, they will not be seen visiting the target. [2-shots]

[Active] - Each night, the Kitchen Brothers may target a player and give them a beating. They will role-block them for the night. If they target the same player twice in a row, they will disable any passive they have the second night and drain their vote the following day.

Wincon - Eliminate all threats to the Kansas City Mafia

'Night' 3 starts.
Day 4 starts in 24 hours.

This role has two lives, so this team would have known one was used up. It would be a convenient fake claim to get a little townie credit.
It says a Day elimination would use both lives, so I don't think we can assume one was already used up

I need to read more thoroughly.

These role mechanics are too confusing for me.

Even so still could be an easy claim for townie cred. Guess we will see what jpic does

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:19 am also hi, sorry i’m checked out of this game

I too feel checked out of this game. Keeping up in the beginning wore me out, and now that it’s finally slower I can’t find any motivation. Sorry guys. I’ll try and have a think later.

I don’t fully understand Esooa’s role claim. Something about a tree stump, can’t vote, can’t die? I don’t know if this is a common role, because I can’t recall anything of the sort. Might be too complicated for a fake claim though. Why not go for something easier if fake

I do think I remember her talking about a protect. Am I imagining all the rest?

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:26 pm I can't die to literally anything including being lynched, I don't count for parity, I can't vote

I'm not 3p I'm town

this is why I can not believe my role

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:27 pm I'm basically a tree stump who started as such lmao

I’ve never seen a role that can’t be lynched, can’t be night killed, can’t vote, and can protect people. Seems unbelievably overpowered.

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:24 pm https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Tree_Stump

Thank you for the link. However that says a player has lost all their abilities, and Esooa has mentioned ability since the stump claim.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:26 pm I'm reasonably sure its best not to speculate too much on esooas role

She's very likely either town or town siding 3p and I don't really care about 3p at this stage of the game so

The claim I have more issue with is Alison's

What is the issue with Alison’s claim?

Yea I don’t see the harm in discussing Esooa’s claim. It’s been a quiet day

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:32 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:30 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:26 pm I'm reasonably sure its best not to speculate too much on esooas role

She's very likely either town or town siding 3p and I don't really care about 3p at this stage of the game so

The claim I have more issue with is Alison's
What is the issue with Alison’s claim?
She seems to think Odd has the trooper abilities KZA has, and vice versa. Their claims contradict hers. That also warrants questions.

Has she explained the contradiction?
Do you still feel ok about Odd and KZA claims?

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:37 pm There's two hyperimportant things that needs to happen before EoD.

1) @Oddmerta explaining this straw thing.
2) @Michelle revealing this name.

I too am interested in hearing more about both these things.

This is an unexpected development. I believe Michelle got a red check, but I don’t know why as I still think Alison is town. This games mechanics are just going over my head.

I haven’t been home much today. Trying to quickly catch up. The main point against Esooa is the speculation they are lying about their role, correct?
Best case scenario of an Esooa lynch would be catching a wolf, worst case scenario would be a wasted day if they are telling the truth they can’t be lynched.

Response to @Long Con

Spoiler: show

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:17 am Just looking at fingersplints' ISO to see what I think.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:20 am
BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:46 am 1) Nanook JPIC
2) Long Con
3) Falcon

Nanook isn't fully clear in my mind. Is there a chance Nook is in the other team and has a vig shot?
I guess there is always a chance but it feels really unlikely to me. There has been a lot of kills each night, I feel like the town would need a kill to balance it out. Also, if nanook was wolf why would he go for Dom with his extra kill and not try to get one of the confirmed town? I’ve been leaning town on nanook for a while so I trust this
This might be a fingersplints wolf believing Nanook is truly town.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:17 pm I’ve never seen a role that can’t be lynched, can’t be night killed, can’t vote, and can protect people. Seems unbelievably overpowered.
If fingersplints is a wolf, Esooa isn't on her team.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:13 pmI need to read more thoroughly. These role mechanics are too confusing for me.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:38 pmThis games mechanics are just going over my head.
Maybe true, but the insistence upon appearing as this type of innocence feels a little like a wolfy shield.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:01 pm @Sloonei

Speculating bad based on role and team just isn’t my thing unless there are obvious reasons for me to think it. My scum hunting tactics have always been quite unconventional in that manner. I used to play in games where you’d generally be given a list of all the roles from the host in the beginning, and people would find it odd because I wouldn’t read the roles for days. I remember one game where I got suspicion for not knowing the town win condition, but I was town
It’s why you’ll hear me say time and time again that I’m more comfortable in smaller games with more standard role mechanics, or I’ll play if I absolutely love the theme. This game was a bit of a weird one for me to choose because it ticks none of those things I just mentioned. If you want to know the actual reason, I mentioned it in signups https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 36#p756636

I’ve already said my thoughts haven’t changed, but let’s talk more
Anyways, I know you have disagreed with this take, but I still think TSP is Marmot’s teammate based on early comments made. Anything later on I think could have been attempts at distancing. It’s probably stubborn headless, but I can’t get over it.

I think some valid points have been made for the ted connection to marmot, so I could see this as another possibility. I don’t want to be accused of copying again, so I’m just being honest here that it’s in no way my idea but I think it’s got merit.

The rest on the last PoE I listed (al, LC, maybe Dom) have potential scummy behaviour that I don’t identify to any team. Dom’s still included here because he’s such a big question mark that I don’t want to forget about him and give him a free pass.

I know I still have some neutrals, but tbh I feel comfortable not having made up my mind on everyone yet. I don’t play like that. I have a few main suspects to focus on and that is enough for me. I am open minded enough to allow for thinking about others, but I don’t feel like I need to be pressured to decide about them now.
Debated on including this one just for the fact that she pushed on two townfolk here, because that happens. But I couldn't resist highlighting the small Player Salad she employed, yes, it is a real tell. Two town members and AL_sama, who's probably just on KC and not fingersplints' team, Gerhardt.

Also, she treated TSP as her personal suspicion project ALMOST to the exclusion of other suspicions until he died.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:44 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:33 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:31 pm @Sloonei I love the
“Me:
Me”

section

I definitely agree with the talk that Falcon needs revisiting. I remember thinking they were town early on, but I’m not sure that it’s a good enough reason with the recent flip and their latest activity. (Changing votes while not wanting to answer why)
His lack of an explanation upon request is not a great look either.

If you had to crunch the game down into a 5-player pool of suspects, who would they be?

If I were to crunch the player list to the “least townie” 5 I’d probably end up with Al, Dom, LC, jpic, and maybe Falcon.
But I’m having a hard time picking just 5. Being wrong about tsp is making me question a lot. I still don’t have a great read on spf. I’m less confident on town lean for Bo. I don’t know if we can trust the claims for Odd and KZA. And what if I’m just stupid and wrong in my town read of nanook.

This time, she opted for the Large Player Salad.

Blah. Done with ISO. Suspicion rekindled. [VOTE: fingersplints] aubergine

You’ve been playing with me for a long time. You know better than anyone here that mechanics aren’t my thing. This game is very complicated. I can’t prove anything now with that other than saying you know better, so I’ll reiterate it after the game for good measure. Not much I can really say about this. Although I doubt I’ll ever play such a complicated game again, so it probably won’t come up as reason for suspicion. Kind of a lame response, but I think this is kind of a lame accusation anyways

Now to the “salad”...The large player salad is me listing five players directly replying to Sloonei asking for five players. I really can’t see how that is so incriminating. Maybe I don’t really understand the whole salad thing, because I don’t see how what you are accusing me of is any different then people having PoE. It’s just a group of suspects

Out of curiosity, how many players do you think are on each team?

Response to @Long Con

Spoiler: show

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:17 am Just looking at fingersplints' ISO to see what I think.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:20 am
BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:46 am 1) Nanook JPIC
2) Long Con
3) Falcon

Nanook isn't fully clear in my mind. Is there a chance Nook is in the other team and has a vig shot?
I guess there is always a chance but it feels really unlikely to me. There has been a lot of kills each night, I feel like the town would need a kill to balance it out. Also, if nanook was wolf why would he go for Dom with his extra kill and not try to get one of the confirmed town? I’ve been leaning town on nanook for a while so I trust this
This might be a fingersplints wolf believing Nanook is truly town.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:17 pm I’ve never seen a role that can’t be lynched, can’t be night killed, can’t vote, and can protect people. Seems unbelievably overpowered.
If fingersplints is a wolf, Esooa isn't on her team.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:13 pmI need to read more thoroughly. These role mechanics are too confusing for me.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:38 pmThis games mechanics are just going over my head.
Maybe true, but the insistence upon appearing as this type of innocence feels a little like a wolfy shield.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:01 pm @Sloonei

Speculating bad based on role and team just isn’t my thing unless there are obvious reasons for me to think it. My scum hunting tactics have always been quite unconventional in that manner. I used to play in games where you’d generally be given a list of all the roles from the host in the beginning, and people would find it odd because I wouldn’t read the roles for days. I remember one game where I got suspicion for not knowing the town win condition, but I was town
It’s why you’ll hear me say time and time again that I’m more comfortable in smaller games with more standard role mechanics, or I’ll play if I absolutely love the theme. This game was a bit of a weird one for me to choose because it ticks none of those things I just mentioned. If you want to know the actual reason, I mentioned it in signups https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 36#p756636

I’ve already said my thoughts haven’t changed, but let’s talk more
Anyways, I know you have disagreed with this take, but I still think TSP is Marmot’s teammate based on early comments made. Anything later on I think could have been attempts at distancing. It’s probably stubborn headless, but I can’t get over it.

I think some valid points have been made for the ted connection to marmot, so I could see this as another possibility. I don’t want to be accused of copying again, so I’m just being honest here that it’s in no way my idea but I think it’s got merit.

The rest on the last PoE I listed (al, LC, maybe Dom) have potential scummy behaviour that I don’t identify to any team. Dom’s still included here because he’s such a big question mark that I don’t want to forget about him and give him a free pass.

I know I still have some neutrals, but tbh I feel comfortable not having made up my mind on everyone yet. I don’t play like that. I have a few main suspects to focus on and that is enough for me. I am open minded enough to allow for thinking about others, but I don’t feel like I need to be pressured to decide about them now.
Debated on including this one just for the fact that she pushed on two townfolk here, because that happens. But I couldn't resist highlighting the small Player Salad she employed, yes, it is a real tell. Two town members and AL_sama, who's probably just on KC and not fingersplints' team, Gerhardt.

Also, she treated TSP as her personal suspicion project ALMOST to the exclusion of other suspicions until he died.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:44 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:33 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:31 pm @Sloonei I love the
“Me:
Me”

section

I definitely agree with the talk that Falcon needs revisiting. I remember thinking they were town early on, but I’m not sure that it’s a good enough reason with the recent flip and their latest activity. (Changing votes while not wanting to answer why)
His lack of an explanation upon request is not a great look either.

If you had to crunch the game down into a 5-player pool of suspects, who would they be?

If I were to crunch the player list to the “least townie” 5 I’d probably end up with Al, Dom, LC, jpic, and maybe Falcon.
But I’m having a hard time picking just 5. Being wrong about tsp is making me question a lot. I still don’t have a great read on spf. I’m less confident on town lean for Bo. I don’t know if we can trust the claims for Odd and KZA. And what if I’m just stupid and wrong in my town read of nanook.

This time, she opted for the Large Player Salad.

Blah. Done with ISO. Suspicion rekindled. [VOTE: fingersplints] aubergine

You’ve been playing with me for a long time. You know better than anyone here that mechanics aren’t my thing. This game is very complicated. I can’t prove anything now with that other than saying you know better, so I’ll reiterate it after the game for good measure. Not much I can really say about this. Although I doubt I’ll ever play such a complicated game again, so it probably won’t come up as reason for suspicion. Kind of a lame response, but I think this is kind of a lame accusation anyways

Now to the “salad”...The large player salad is me listing five players directly replying to Sloonei asking for five players. I really can’t see how that is so incriminating. Maybe I don’t really understand the whole salad thing, because I don’t see how what you are accusing me of is any different then people having PoE. It’s just a group of suspects

Out of curiosity, how many players do you think are on each team?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:19 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:13 pm Response to @Long Con

Spoiler: show
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:17 am Just looking at fingersplints' ISO to see what I think.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:20 am
BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:46 am 1) Nanook JPIC
2) Long Con
3) Falcon

Nanook isn't fully clear in my mind. Is there a chance Nook is in the other team and has a vig shot?
I guess there is always a chance but it feels really unlikely to me. There has been a lot of kills each night, I feel like the town would need a kill to balance it out. Also, if nanook was wolf why would he go for Dom with his extra kill and not try to get one of the confirmed town? I’ve been leaning town on nanook for a while so I trust this
This might be a fingersplints wolf believing Nanook is truly town.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:17 pm I’ve never seen a role that can’t be lynched, can’t be night killed, can’t vote, and can protect people. Seems unbelievably overpowered.
If fingersplints is a wolf, Esooa isn't on her team.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:13 pmI need to read more thoroughly. These role mechanics are too confusing for me.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:38 pmThis games mechanics are just going over my head.
Maybe true, but the insistence upon appearing as this type of innocence feels a little like a wolfy shield.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:01 pm @Sloonei

Speculating bad based on role and team just isn’t my thing unless there are obvious reasons for me to think it. My scum hunting tactics have always been quite unconventional in that manner. I used to play in games where you’d generally be given a list of all the roles from the host in the beginning, and people would find it odd because I wouldn’t read the roles for days. I remember one game where I got suspicion for not knowing the town win condition, but I was town
It’s why you’ll hear me say time and time again that I’m more comfortable in smaller games with more standard role mechanics, or I’ll play if I absolutely love the theme. This game was a bit of a weird one for me to choose because it ticks none of those things I just mentioned. If you want to know the actual reason, I mentioned it in signups https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 36#p756636

I’ve already said my thoughts haven’t changed, but let’s talk more
Anyways, I know you have disagreed with this take, but I still think TSP is Marmot’s teammate based on early comments made. Anything later on I think could have been attempts at distancing. It’s probably stubborn headless, but I can’t get over it.

I think some valid points have been made for the ted connection to marmot, so I could see this as another possibility. I don’t want to be accused of copying again, so I’m just being honest here that it’s in no way my idea but I think it’s got merit.

The rest on the last PoE I listed (al, LC, maybe Dom) have potential scummy behaviour that I don’t identify to any team. Dom’s still included here because he’s such a big question mark that I don’t want to forget about him and give him a free pass.

I know I still have some neutrals, but tbh I feel comfortable not having made up my mind on everyone yet. I don’t play like that. I have a few main suspects to focus on and that is enough for me. I am open minded enough to allow for thinking about others, but I don’t feel like I need to be pressured to decide about them now.
Debated on including this one just for the fact that she pushed on two townfolk here, because that happens. But I couldn't resist highlighting the small Player Salad she employed, yes, it is a real tell. Two town members and AL_sama, who's probably just on KC and not fingersplints' team, Gerhardt.

Also, she treated TSP as her personal suspicion project ALMOST to the exclusion of other suspicions until he died.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:44 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:33 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:31 pm @Sloonei I love the
“Me:
Me”

section

I definitely agree with the talk that Falcon needs revisiting. I remember thinking they were town early on, but I’m not sure that it’s a good enough reason with the recent flip and their latest activity. (Changing votes while not wanting to answer why)
His lack of an explanation upon request is not a great look either.

If you had to crunch the game down into a 5-player pool of suspects, who would they be?

If I were to crunch the player list to the “least townie” 5 I’d probably end up with Al, Dom, LC, jpic, and maybe Falcon.
But I’m having a hard time picking just 5. Being wrong about tsp is making me question a lot. I still don’t have a great read on spf. I’m less confident on town lean for Bo. I don’t know if we can trust the claims for Odd and KZA. And what if I’m just stupid and wrong in my town read of nanook.

This time, she opted for the Large Player Salad.

Blah. Done with ISO. Suspicion rekindled. [VOTE: fingersplints] aubergine
You’ve been playing with me for a long time. You know better than anyone here that mechanics aren’t my thing. This game is very complicated. I can’t prove anything now with that other than saying you know better, so I’ll reiterate it after the game for good measure. Not much I can really say about this. Although I doubt I’ll ever play such a complicated game again, so it probably won’t come up as reason for suspicion. Kind of a lame response, but I think this is kind of a lame accusation anyways

Now to the “salad”...The large player salad is me listing five players directly replying to Sloonei asking for five players. I really can’t see how that is so incriminating. Maybe I don’t really understand the whole salad thing, because I don’t see how what you are accusing me of is any different then people having PoE. It’s just a group of suspects

Out of curiosity, how many players do you think are on each team?
I think there are three on each team.

Salad formation includes the ", and maybe". That's an important part.

I don't care how much mechanics isn't your thing. I care how much you lean into that in order to parlay some towncred.

If you think there are only three on a team why would you have said “Two town members and AL_sama, who's probably just on KC and not fingersplints' team, Gerhardt.”?
I thought it’s been established that we would be informed of a mafia team was eliminated? Meaning if you believe there are three, Al cannot be KC as he would be the third and final member

I don’t think I’m getting any “town cred” for saying mechanics aren’t my thing, so I find that a ludicrous assertion. Plenty of other of people have said that the mechanics are too much, but for some reason you are singling my mention of it out to fit your narrative.

Your “PoE”s have been pretty indecisive as well.

Here is one example although I found instances like this all throughout your posts

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:58 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:33 pm This is where I run to my room and slam the door because puberty is hard.
I'm willing to listen to ya. Give me some reads, Top 3 Scum, Top 3 Town if ya plz
Like, I don't have much for you, I don't know who's bad.

I feel like the concept of "Top 3 Town" has been pushed around a little by the latest revelations.

Like, Alison-Oddmerta-Hally? Pretty uncreative. Strawhenge I still like. SPF seems legit, especially with her upcoming whatever thing. Sloonei is easy to love when you're looking from a scummy perspective, but he also doesn't shine as much as the other towny folk, which could be something. Esooa? I don't really know at all.

For the bad guys though... well, here's the list, right?

Dom
KZA
Long Con
Nanook
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime
AL_sama

But that coloration is so derivative, I know. Plus I don't really "do" Nanook. Fingersplints might just be, actually. Yes, I do think fingersplints is mafia. Dom is ???

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:30 pm can everyone in this game please name their three strongest townreads, and their preferred chop option today?

strongest TR: Hally, Alison, nanook

Chop: LC

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:24 pm In what world is an indecisive POE a scummy indicator?

It has only been confirmed to me since today that we will be informed when a team is eliminated.

You said it was the “and maybe” that bothered you about my PoE.
Again, the reason mine was 5 was to directly answer Sloonei for 5. I had 4 and the 5th I was indecisive on. I didn’t choose the number 5.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:40 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:28 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:24 pm In what world is an indecisive POE a scummy indicator?

It has only been confirmed to me since today that we will be informed when a team is eliminated.

You said it was the “and maybe” that bothered you about my PoE.
Again, the reason mine was 5 was to directly answer Sloonei for 5. I had 4 and the 5th I was indecisive on. I didn’t choose the number 5.
Yes. That was how you did a classic scum tell. And?

I disagree with scum tells, but in the post I quoted of yours you said “might be”. Is “might be” really that different then “maybe”. So I think you have done similar but are trying to paint it in a bad light as an excuse to go for someone who might be an easy lynch.

I’ve spent a lot of time going through your posts tonight. It’s hard to multiquote and cut out applicable bits from my phone, but you’ve been careful this game, keeping your jokey demeanour, but your tone has been off since your early responses to Oddmerta (and then your response to my question) about the posting your vote for the time in the thread. It’s hard to make a case, but I think your scum.

Oh I did find this which I feel requires a little comment.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:48 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:47 pm Don't make me sing it in a video.
do it

LC absolutely will sing for a mafia game. I’ve seen it.

I really dislike self voting.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:03 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:02 pm well i kinda doubt falcon will flip wolf but uh

maybe don’t self vote at EoD next time regardless
Wolfy
you’re dead. stop posting

Is he actually dead until the host posts? I always thought that was the cutoff

BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:20 pm why is the post white?

Weird things just keep happening

It’s unfortunate a townie was lynched, but I really don’t understand self voting.

My quick thoughts on the Falcon wagon: nanook, LC, KZA, spf, Michele, and Falcon.

Falcon obviously is town. I think LC is most likely bad, but I don’t think this vote looks bad for him as he would have had to vote that way to stay in the game. I think nanook is town, between the shooting Dom claim and thread activity seems like the town game I have previously seen. I don’t feel I’ve been great at reading spf this game, but their posts have read genuine as of late. As I remember they seem to be trying to keep the thread motivated/on task since we lost most of the leaders of it which I think is a good look. Michele I’m still willing to believe claim despite recent issues with it. This game has a ton of mechanic shit going on, so I don’t consider the red check on Alison was for nefarious reasons as of now. KZA has the trooper vouch from Alison but their thread activity hasn’t been great. Can’t recall more specifics off the top of my head. Willing to look more into that read.

I see I have three votes already

Anyways, not sure if there is much point in me trying anymore. My role isn’t as important as most of yours

I am Molly Solverson. I get players to “read me a story” and hide behind them.

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:09 am w h y is michelle still alive and able to get off peeks

is there no rb? is there no redirect? no strongman?

what. is. going. on.

Dom/Gavial had a roleblock

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:02 pm
@Gavial [The Kitchen Brothers] has been eliminated.

" "
The Kitchen Brothers

[Passive] - The silent enforcers of the Kansas City Mob, the Kitchen Brothers do everything in pairs. They have two lives, they have 2 votes, and each night they may perform their actions twice. A day elimination consumes both lives, and the double-action doesn't affect the factional kills. If they lose a life, they will also lose their extra vote and actions.

[Passive] - The Kitchen Brothers will always clean after themselves and janitor their target if they perform the factional kill.
--- [Identical Twins] - If they perform the factional kill, they will not be seen visiting the target. [2-shots]

[Active] - Each night, the Kitchen Brothers may target a player and give them a beating. They will role-block them for the night. If they target the same player twice in a row, they will disable any passive they have the second night and drain their vote the following day.

Wincon - Eliminate all threats to the Kansas City Mafia

'Night' 3 starts.
Day 4 starts in 24 hours.

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:09 am w h y is michelle still alive and able to get off peeks

is there no rb? is there no redirect? no strongman?

what. is. going. on.

Dom/Gavial had a roleblock

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:02 pm
@Gavial [The Kitchen Brothers] has been eliminated.

" "
The Kitchen Brothers

[Passive] - The silent enforcers of the Kansas City Mob, the Kitchen Brothers do everything in pairs. They have two lives, they have 2 votes, and each night they may perform their actions twice. A day elimination consumes both lives, and the double-action doesn't affect the factional kills. If they lose a life, they will also lose their extra vote and actions.

[Passive] - The Kitchen Brothers will always clean after themselves and janitor their target if they perform the factional kill.
--- [Identical Twins] - If they perform the factional kill, they will not be seen visiting the target. [2-shots]

[Active] - Each night, the Kitchen Brothers may target a player and give them a beating. They will role-block them for the night. If they target the same player twice in a row, they will disable any passive they have the second night and drain their vote the following day.

Wincon - Eliminate all threats to the Kansas City Mafia

'Night' 3 starts.
Day 4 starts in 24 hours.

I also [VOTE: JPIC] aubergine

Self preservation and I’m not sure I believe their role claim.

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:53 pm [VOTE: splints] aubergine

wolfy over explanation for a vote that’s actually just self-pres

“Over explanation”
Yea posting those two lines (one of which was self pres) were really over explaining

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:52 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:13 am I also [VOTE: JPIC] aubergine

Self preservation and I’m not sure I believe their role claim.
why not? and who are the other wolves?

Because that makes multiple trackers, and as I stated before it would be easy to claim the track of Dom for civvie credit. They’ve pushed it a lot as if they are the reason Dom/Gavial got lynched. Milking it way too much IMO.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:04 pm I bet this game was not multiball all along

How much would you like to bet?

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:07 pm I'm mostly voting fingersplints because of wagon purity reasons

I don't actually care if fingersplints or JPIC go over today.

You think a wagon of this many people is entirely pure? Lol

This IS a multiball game. There are wolves voting for me. I learned some days ago. I could have helped more but meh I gave up on this game ages ago

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:08 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:07 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:04 pm I bet this game was not multiball all along
How much would you like to bet?
I bet my life on it

You are very much wrong. I know of two members on the second team.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:15 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:15 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:08 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:07 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:04 pm I bet this game was not multiball all along
How much would you like to bet?
I bet my life on it
You are very much wrong. I know of two members on the second team.
is this your way of claiming mafia

My original plan was to claim Officer Gibson to be funny

I’ve known I wasn’t making it to the end for a long time. I’ve been at a significant disadvantage from day 1. At least I made it past LC

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:26 pm okay yes, gavial could roleblock twice that night because he still had both his lives. so that checks out

This is not the case

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:19 pm broke: scumhunting

woke: posting memes as psychological warfare until the mafia break down and confess

This actually made me almost not want to post all this I had originally planned on for the record

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:21 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:21 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:26 pm okay yes, gavial could roleblock twice that night because he still had both his lives. so that checks out
This is not the case
what happened then?

Wouldn’t you rather guess?

Michelle was not role blocked and is lying to you.

Idk what “oh worm” means, so idk how to respond to that

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:28 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:13 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:07 pm I'm mostly voting fingersplints because of wagon purity reasons

I don't actually care if fingersplints or JPIC go over today.
You think a wagon of this many people is entirely pure? Lol

This IS a multiball game. There are wolves voting for me. I learned some days ago. I could have helped more but meh I gave up on this game ages ago
What does "I learned some days ago" mean

And what's your role

Meaning I found out days ago who members of the other team were.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:35 pm i would like fingersplints and KZA to be partnered together for vanity reasons

but also, they make sense as a team

Lol, no. We are not a team

I did force someone to target ted the night he was killed though. Maybe you’d like to discuss that instead. I’m going to sleep, but I eagerly look forward to what you come up with in the morning.

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:41 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:40 pm I did force someone to target ted the night he was killed though. Maybe you’d like to discuss that instead. I’m going to sleep, but I eagerly look forward to what you come up with in the morning.
so there IS a redirector

hallelujah

Maybe more than one

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:42 pm Reminder not to take anything the outed mafia says seriously

I took you seriously this game when no one else would.

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