The Syndicate

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:30 pm there are certain kinds of players that would hesitate to stick out so much as a wolf and go against the grain

i would be shocked if that applies to oddmerta based on the archetype he falls into

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:30 pm I think it's a bad idea to give a player of the Oddmerta archetype town credit for doing something bad (e.g. making wacky reads). He doesn't strike me as the type to struggle with pretending, or the type to worry about the consequences of pretending.

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:06 am Alright, it's been long enough now. Does anybody still think that JPIC is civilian?

AL_sama wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:36 pm ok finally caught up

no matter how I see it I can't see a townie ted playing like this so

vote lynch ted

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:38 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:32 pm @MacDougall tell me who to vote

Jay's dad

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:40 pm

AL_sama wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:11 pm jjj looks townie but feels he could pull it off even if he is scum
alison is giving similar vibes as jjj
tututu is null for me right now
ted isn't playing his usual town game
michelle from what little she posted looks town bit would love to see or from her
falcon looks townie
KZA null
mac townie maybe
esona null
stou looks townie
odd with the way he dipped is making me think he is scum
long con null
marmot null
TSP slight scum lean
straw looks townie
stay null
fingers null
JPIC null
boknows slight scum lean

for reference

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:42 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:38 pm in radiohead oddmerta was aggressive and went against the grain but i could follow where he was coming from and it wasn’t difficult for me to see he was approaching the game genuinely

i cannot see that this game. he’s just spouting off stuff for seemingly no reason. just because he says it with confidence does not make it villagery. his reads look like weaksauce to me

i said the same thing, but nah

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:43 pm regardless of al's alignment, i struggle to believe that marmot's sudden suspicion of al is coming from a place of real conviction. i am bothered by the fact that marmot voted for al 40 minutes before the deadline and declared him to be the "best chop" even though marmot had mentioned absolutely zero suspicion about the al slot prior to that point. it feels like a blatant self-preservation vote to me, regardless of marmot's alignment. and if it is a self-preservation vote, i don't know why marmot is framing their vote as being able ~authentic suspicion~ against ai instead of just an attempt to stay alive for longer

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:44 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:43 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:42 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:38 pm in radiohead oddmerta was aggressive and went against the grain but i could follow where he was coming from and it wasn’t difficult for me to see he was approaching the game genuinely

i cannot see that this game. he’s just spouting off stuff for seemingly no reason. just because he says it with confidence does not make it villagery. his reads look like weaksauce to me

i said the same thing, but nah

wdym nah?

i mean it got shut down by alison, mac, idk who else

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:52 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:52 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:45 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:41 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:39 pm 1) Do we believe that AL_sama is indeed caught up?

2) Do we believe that AL_sama has been catching up?

3) Do we believe that tedxtr is a believable vote?

Flashbacks to Finale Hally

What does this mean? Sounds like Things From When Jay Was Dead

I caught Hally because they were talking about getting caught up in the midst of heavy action ~30 minutes before the deadline.

@Hally thoughts?

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:53 pm Well, looks like I'm going over anyway.

Go get em town. I have faith.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:54 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:52 pm @Marmot claim

Oh right, this thing.


I'm Chief Gibson. If I predict the following day's yeet, I get a small powerup.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:57 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:56 pm marmot you don’t really sound like a villager about to get mislunched

What am I supposed to do with this?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:57 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:56 pmCFD Alison?

Put down the crackpipe

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:58 pm There's no way Mac has my role, I'm confused as hell rn, are you being serious?

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:00 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:58 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:58 pm There's no way Mac has my role, I'm confused as hell rn, are you being serious?

no he's not being serious smh your fake claim is safe

Your theory about multiball is correct.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:02 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:01 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:00 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:58 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:58 pm There's no way Mac has my role, I'm confused as hell rn, are you being serious?

no he's not being serious smh your fake claim is safe

Your theory about multiball is correct.

wat

wot

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:03 pm nonzero chance these were w/w wagons and marmot got bussed because he has the worse role

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:06 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:05 pm can i be spewed clear from marmot?

But we are maf

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:06 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:05 pm can i be spewed clear from marmot?

But we are maf

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:09 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:13 pm i read al_sama’s iso and my conclusion was essentially the same as esooa. it’s a shrug poe lunch that i’m not opposed to but i figure that they have about rand chance to be a wolf

Al_sama is the easiest misexe on the planet but as Jay has observed it's surprisingly difficult to run them up. Why?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:24 pm

@Marmot [Joe Bulo] has been eliminated.

"Management says acquire the territory, we acquire it. Whether that's cash down or sending bodies to the morgue, that's up to the Krauts"
Joe Bulo

[Passive] - The frontman for the Kansas City Mafia northern expansion, Joe’s bringing a Walmart mentality to small-town America. As the new face of corporate crime, Joe doesn't get his own hands dirty. He scans as [Innocent] to cops. [Redacted]. He is immune to any other actions as long as one of his enforcers is alive.
--- [Joe Bullo Says Hi] - Factional kills performed by him are upgraded to a super-kill. [1-shot]

[Passive] - Joe runs a tight ship. If one of his men puts his operation in jeopardy, he doesn't hesitate in taking their arms or their tongues. If one of his underlings dies, he may redistribute their abilities to another one or use them himself.

[Active] - As the specialist in negotiations of his team, Joe may each day invite a player for a chat the following night. They will gain a private chat during the night phase, and he will learn their flavor name at the end of it. If he chats with the same player twice, he will learn their full role.
--- [Cease-Fire] - Any player currently in a chat with Joe will have their actions fail if they target one of his team.

Wincon - Eliminate all threats to the Kansas City Mafia

Night 1 starts.
You have 23 hours to submit your actions (if any).

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:28 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:38 pm in radiohead oddmerta was aggressive and went against the grain but i could follow where he was coming from and it wasn’t difficult for me to see he was approaching the game genuinely

i cannot see that this game. he’s just spouting off stuff for seemingly no reason. just because he says it with confidence does not make it villagery. his reads look like weaksauce to me

trust me

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:29 pm Oh whoa! And he was just starting to make me lean him back away from the scum side of my rainbow. His final day posts really read like a townie who had accepted his fate.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:29 pm Proclick

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/searc ... gonly&ch=0

Search keyword marmot

Ez wolf pelt

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:37 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:33 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:28 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:38 pm in radiohead oddmerta was aggressive and went against the grain but i could follow where he was coming from and it wasn’t difficult for me to see he was approaching the game genuinely

i cannot see that this game. he’s just spouting off stuff for seemingly no reason. just because he says it with confidence does not make it villagery. his reads look like weaksauce to me

trust me

why?

godread

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:51 pm i think i'll be voting marmot over al

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:58 pm [VOTE: Marmot ] aubergine

shrug

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:43 am

Spoiler: show

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:46 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:36 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:34 pmWhat'd I miss?

Numerous micro-interactions between various pairs and trios of players that could not be effectively summarized without writing a novel. You might be well advised to try catching up with ISOs instead of forcing yourself through the thread. If you want to do that though, you do you.

My tactic in large games has been to largely ignore everything that happens until halfway through Day 1 for my own sanity. That said, town has lost every such game. I'll start with SPF and KZA isos.


Why are you voting me and why do you have 100+ posts already?

what are these questions

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:56 pm @KZA why are you so staunch in your townread of Sloonei?

what is this question x2

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:37 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:21 pm This game already feels like a civilian win. Strut your stuff town gang and we can climb the 2021 leaderboard in no time. Just do your thing, because you've been blessed with a state of total solving comfort.

JJJ trying to make this game look easy on page 2. I dislike.

i dunno if marmot is that type of mafia player archetype where he picks up on specific stuff to call out, given that he hasn't been around in a long time and just recently picked up the pace, i'm gonna go with a slight villager look

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:47 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:37 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:30 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:27 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:26 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:24 pm

my vote would probably land on aL_sama, marmot, or ted right now. i honestly don't have a single name that i can point to as definitely being scum right now though - i moreso have the game divided between "probably town" and "probably not town"

I also had a salad for dinner tonight.

my number one takeaway from this game so far is that i don't understand what "salad" means :P

"I would vote A, B, or C" is close to the prototype for the player salad tell. It's suggestive of keeping one's options wide open when not comfortable committing to suspicions. What's holding you back from placing one of those votes right now?

that makes sense - i would say that i am thinking in salad terms right now because of the particular gamestate we're in

i'm not at a point where i can confidently point to one player and say "this person is a wolf", but i am at a point where i can point to a pool of people and say "this pool probably has wolves", and vice versa for town. the more specific wolfreads tend to come later in the game when i've had more time to interrogate people and feel things out

there's nothing particularly holding me back from making a vote right now, either. i just don't feel particularly inspired to do it at the moment. it'll happen

JJJ said this game would be easy, but it never actually is.

Also, that's a lot of adverbs and use of the word "particular" in one post.

I don't think he's ever gone for this line as a wolf before? Correct me if wrong

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:50 pm My concern about tutuu is that she's been all over the place, playing a cute version of Mac's spew shit and see what sticks meta, and it's one that he replicates pretty well as mafia.

i'm confused as to why he thinks tutuu would deliberately attempt to fake mac's play style

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:38 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:02 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:58 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:05 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

What moved you?

i no longer felt comfortable with my vote on fingersplints, and the concerns that i had about marmot yesterday have not been alleviated in the slightest by his posting today.. i got the impression that he may have been trying to play up the dichotomy of tutuu/myself

I had mild suspicions of both of you, and then you starting butting heads, or at least tutuu starting calling you scum. That's when I happened to voice said suspicions.

But of course tutuu's back to townreading you (as of this post of yours), which is also my qualm with her.

this seems fine

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:10 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:03 am @Marmot could you elaborate on those nanook and tutuu reads?

Tutuu's been an active presence in the thread, but changing her reads on a whim.

Nanook said he's not going to read JJJ until Day 3-4, but he's made multiple posts like [url[https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 91#p760791]this one[/url] and this one that look like mild attempts at shade.

fine too, i guess?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:57 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:59 pm This game feels like Jay and I are mafia teammates. I wonder if anyone has made that observation yet.

I think a majority of scum rn is active

What's the point of this post if the following is your readlist?

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:37 pm Falcon-town
2. Tedextr-towny, lacking
4. Odd-fine but needs to make actual content
5. Sloonei-whatever
7. Strawhenge-town
8. JaggedJimmyJay-town
9. Staypositivefriend-town
10. KZA-probably town
11. MacDougall-probably town
13. Marmot-no thoughts
14. TSP-scummy
15. Long Con-no thoughts
16. Fingersplints-towny
17. Tutuu-playing different to her scum game from when I've seen her twice but in a way that is more scummy so idk what to think exactly
18. JPIC-whatever
19. Michelle-town
20. Alison-null
21. BoKnows-towny
22. Al Sama-scummy

this shows he's at least been paying attention to the game a bit

====

overall, his main focus seems to be shading / pushing the POWERFUL players in a POWERFUL playerlist on D0 - D1.

on the elite reads ranks, jay and marmot are probably not w/w

marmot seems like a villager

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:56 pm The more I've been thinking about it, the more I don't like Marmot as scum. There needs to be more town stuff, but the past hour has been giving me vibes. I don't think he's the right chop.

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:56 pm I gave Al sama an in to this game by being able to talk about me but he did me wrong and I generally scumread him

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:01 pm i think that marmot spewed the tutuu slot as a non-partner

thoughts?

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:07 pm I have mech knowledge that Trooper Milch is a real role and not a safe claim. I repeat, my role card confirms that Trooper Milch is a real role, aligned with the town. and not a safe claim. Oddmerta is lock town.

Do not claim flavor or abilities further. Mafia likely has a soupkill. I am probably dead tonight because I am too trusted and I have claimed PR. They might even be able to figure out my role and soupkill me from there. However I didn't want to go out without at least confirming Odd.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:09 pm I need to finish an essay. Someone go look into all the people who tried to push Odd for being LHF.

LC did. I think TSP/ted did, can't remember which. Maybe both. Those guys are suspicious.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:09 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:55 am

Spoiler: show

Look, there is only one way this can go
Poll runs till Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


AL_sama
4
19%
Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, MacDougall, tutuu, Alison
Alison
1
5%
Voters: falcon45ca
BoKnows
1
5%
Voters: Justplayingitcool
Dom
0
No votes
Voters: None
Esooa
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
fingersplints
0
No votes
Voters: None
JaggedJimmyJay
0
No votes
Voters: None
Justplayingitcool
1
5%
Voters: Oddmerta
KZA
1
5%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
Marmot
1
5%
Voters: staypositivefriend
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
1
5%
Voters: KZA
Oddmerta
3
14%
Voters: BoKnows, tedxtr, Long Con
Sloonei
0
No votes
Voters: None
staypositivefriend
0
No votes
Voters: None
Strawhenge
0
No votes
Voters: None
tedxtr
1
5%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime
TonyStarkPrime
2
10%
Voters: fingersplints, Esooa
tutuu
2
10%
Voters: Sloonei, Marmot
Unvote
0
No votes
Voters: None
No Elimination
0
No votes
Voters: None
Is one of them the "hard way"? (Host/Dead/Non)
3
14%
Voters: nutella, Epignosis, novaselinenever
Total votes: 21

I don't have time to play at work

I looked earlier at the thread and i saw a post mentioning a tie between Marmot and Odd, now Marmot's wagon dissipated and Al is top wagon

I decided to keep this VC and I will do it again, i forgot we need some VCs.

I will cast a vote on Marmot, probably that wagon have to exist. No, i didn't read and I will appreciate if someone tells me a towny activity from Marmot explaining the votes movement.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Can people stare at this and unpack it plz