The Syndicate

AL_sama wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:11 pm jjj looks townie but feels he could pull it off even if he is scum
alison is giving similar vibes as jjj
tututu is null for me right now
ted isn't playing his usual town game
michelle from what little she posted looks town bit would love to see or from her
falcon looks townie
KZA null
mac townie maybe
esona null
stou looks townie
odd with the way he dipped is making me think he is scum
long con null
marmot null
TSP slight scum lean
straw looks townie
stay null
fingers null
JPIC null
boknows slight scum lean

AL_sama wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:36 pm ok finally caught up

no matter how I see it I can't see a townie ted playing like this so

vote lynch ted

AL_sama wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:47 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:37 pm

AL_sama wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:36 pm ok finally caught up

no matter how I see it I can't see a townie ted playing like this so

vote lynch ted

I would LOVE to hear more! How do you think ted is playing? What's got you suspicious?

if ted is town and finds someone sus then he'd go as far as to dig a foot tunnel if needed but he isn't doing that

AL_sama wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:56 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:49 pm

AL_sama wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:47 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:37 pm

AL_sama wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:36 pm ok finally caught up

no matter how I see it I can't see a townie ted playing like this so

vote lynch ted

I would LOVE to hear more! How do you think ted is playing? What's got you suspicious?

if ted is town and finds someone sus then he'd go as far as to dig a foot tunnel if needed but he isn't doing that

Okay, thanks. Who do you suppose ted should be tunneling?

he isn't even hard for anyone like he doesn't care at all

AL_sama wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:07 pm @tedxtr can you tel me why haven't you been pushy??

AL_sama wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:16 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:10 pm and on syndicate i consider it a vacation, other people usually do the work and my engine warms up later

is this true guys??

AL_sama wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:25 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:17 pm

AL_sama wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:16 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:10 pm and on syndicate i consider it a vacation, other people usually do the work and my engine warms up later

is this true guys??

Kinda

so do you suggest I move on then??

AL_sama wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:34 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:25 pm

AL_sama wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:25 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:17 pm

AL_sama wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:16 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:10 pm and on syndicate i consider it a vacation, other people usually do the work and my engine warms up later

is this true guys??

Kinda

so do you suggest I move on then??

Fuck no

you kinda just vouched for it so why not??

i don’t know actually

maybe it’s w/w. it’s just bizarre

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:12 pm those are some absolutely bizarre interactions. you're right. i find it difficult to believe that al genuinely believes their read on ted regardless of ted's alignment

well regardless of whether or not they’re teamed together they can both still be wolves. it seems inevitable that we’ll kill both of them regardless of what the other flips so i’m not super concerned with figuring out if they can be aligned specifically with each other

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:16 pm These days I always find myself wanting to compare folks to Beggbow. To recapture the Beggbow magic.

AL_sama's treatment of ted kinda reminds me of Beggbow's treatment of Mellow Ezlo. This is a reach. I don't care.

if i squint i could see al’s treatment of ted as straight up tmi that ted is a wolf. i don’t think it matters. this is multiball and we should kill both irrespective of what either flips

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:16 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:10 pm Marmot team POE in order

tedxtr
falcon
LC
Nanook
Al_sama
fingersplints
Dom
Strawhenge
Michelle

From splints down it is more they are here due to an absence of anything point away from them.

I can understand this, seeing as how I tried to advocate for him at the end there. I assure you that isn't the case, though. His fakeclaim seemed believable, probably because he claimed an less-common kind of role power, as opposed to cop or doctor claiming. That, and his general vibe near the end—all the 'GG town, you can do it'—right up until the EOD, it just felt like a genuine moment of a mis-chopped townie accepting their fate.

I went with my gut, but my gut was wrong.

i don’t think you’re teammates with marmot fwiw. your EoD looked like someone who didn’t know what marmot would flip and got cold feet. i don’t hold that against you

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:17 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:01 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:57 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:21 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:19 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:03 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:02 pm EOD suggestion to CFD Alison? What else ya got? Since she's been, and continues to be, a scum read of mine it should've come as little surprise.


How about not buying Odds "lock clear town" thats based solely off what Alison tells us?

You got something that doesn't involve Alison?


You got something real and tangible?

Okay fine I lean scum on you now for this nonsense. What do you think Alison and Odd are up to?

Alison's PR claim early really reminds me of her Champs game recently, and Odds comes to play after NF? You damn well know what I think of that.

what champs game? what are you talking about?

He is referring to GOC which was a very large game (the longest in Syndicate history) where I won as a hostile 3P by claiming benign 3P at the start of D1 and lolcatting until my win condition got fulfilled.

@falcon45ca how is that remotely similar to anything alison has done this game? the only parallel is “alison claimed something.” but claiming 3P is not the same as claiming a provable pr with a green check on someone. iirc you said you have other reasons to suspect alison? what are they?

Hmmm, you persist and trying to keep things in a past game state: I have already said that I'm willing to look past my take on Alison, and that she'll get resolved and in the meanwhile I'll let her hunt.

Yeah, maybe I've got a crap read on her. I'm ok with that, but you keep bringing it to the forefront and won't let things move forward.

You recently did so with KZA, asking why he's not in my POE right now, despite the fact that I directly told you why I was town leaning him. Again, trying to keep things in a past game state.

i was not under the impression you town read kza. your response to me earlier didn’t seem like a town read

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:47 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:11 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:18 pm normally I would make Radish do this but he's not playing so you can take whatever read Falcon provides on me as 100% correct

BoKnows and I only played 1 game together on Canucks so you can take his read of me however you want

@falcon45ca is kza a villager?

Good question.

I'm not sold on him being town, but I'm giving him a town lean over scum. His reaction to being sussed hard this RD makes me want to give him space to scum hunt. If he's town, we should be able to determine it via his game solveyness...that's a word right?

If he's scum, then we should be able to solve him the same way, and I will never ever let him get away with his reaction this game to being sussed ever again.

i guess you did say you town lean him here. but your explanation doesn’t feel like you were remotely convinced of his villageriness. that’s why i asked

i do think sloonei tends to struggle with stamina as a wolf. i remember in grasslands he got a lot of heat for not doing anything in the night chats while everyone else was solving

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:27 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:47 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:11 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:18 pm normally I would make Radish do this but he's not playing so you can take whatever read Falcon provides on me as 100% correct

BoKnows and I only played 1 game together on Canucks so you can take his read of me however you want

@falcon45ca is kza a villager?

Good question.

I'm not sold on him being town, but I'm giving him a town lean over scum. His reaction to being sussed hard this RD makes me want to give him space to scum hunt. If he's town, we should be able to determine it via his game solveyness...that's a word right?

If he's scum, then we should be able to solve him the same way, and I will never ever let him get away with his reaction this game to being sussed ever again.

How does this not look like I'm giving KZA a town lean over scum?

your words after “town lean” do not convey to me that you believe kza is a villager. i don’t know. it was just a question

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:32 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:23 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:47 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:11 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:18 pm normally I would make Radish do this but he's not playing so you can take whatever read Falcon provides on me as 100% correct

BoKnows and I only played 1 game together on Canucks so you can take his read of me however you want

@falcon45ca is kza a villager?

Good question.

I'm not sold on him being town, but I'm giving him a town lean over scum. His reaction to being sussed hard this RD makes me want to give him space to scum hunt. If he's town, we should be able to determine it via his game solveyness...that's a word right?

If he's scum, then we should be able to solve him the same way, and I will never ever let him get away with his reaction this game to being sussed ever again.

i guess you did say you town lean him here. but your explanation doesn’t feel like you were remotely convinced of his villageriness. that’s why i asked

Well I'm certainly not sold he's town, but do you at least see that I find it odd you question me for not having KZA in my POE when I've clearly said I town lean him?


As a thought exercise, pretend that I'm town and I'm telling you the truth in my posts about how I read things instead of the other way around.

i apologize for not remembering exactly what you said. i’ve had to process a ton of information in a short time and can’t remember the specifics of every post i’ve seen

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:35 pm and also, without having read most of the final 2 hours of the Day and nearly everything that's been said during the night phase, I am still wary of the tutuu/hally slot for all the same reasons I expressed earlier.

i’m not sure why your read on my slot would change if you haven’t read my posts. reevaluating your read requires you read them

i trust you’ll do that at some point

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:38 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:37 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:35 pm and also, without having read most of the final 2 hours of the Day and nearly everything that's been said during the night phase, I am still wary of the tutuu/hally slot for all the same reasons I expressed earlier.

it was mostly tutuu

i know, i don’t actually care. i just like sticking my tongue out at people

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:39 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:38 pm i’m not sure why your read on my slot would change if you haven’t read my posts. reevaluating your read requires you read them

i trust you’ll do that at some point

meh. maybe. we're past the point no return on my ketchup aversion. I'll read what you have to say going forward.

you could just skim my iso? if my slot is still high on your list of concerns it seems like a valuable use of your time

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:45 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:41 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:39 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:38 pm i’m not sure why your read on my slot would change if you haven’t read my posts. reevaluating your read requires you read them

i trust you’ll do that at some point

meh. maybe. we're past the point no return on my ketchup aversion. I'll read what you have to say going forward.

you could just skim my iso? if my slot is still high on your list of concerns it seems like a valuable use of your time

i'll do whatever i feel is necessarily when the time comes to do necessary things.

No one needs to worry about what my activity level will be. I'm just saying that at this exact moment I don't have the energy to do any heavy lifting.

@Esooa why haven’t you tried to read me? i would think you would have some opinion on my posts by now

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:49 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:49 pm @Esooa why haven’t you tried to read me? i would think you would have some opinion on my posts by now

I think you're town

why?

i already have over 200 posts. but i feel like i have a lot less. weird

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:52 pm tutuu+this post

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:35 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:32 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:23 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:47 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:11 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:18 pm normally I would make Radish do this but he's not playing so you can take whatever read Falcon provides on me as 100% correct

BoKnows and I only played 1 game together on Canucks so you can take his read of me however you want

@falcon45ca is kza a villager?

Good question.

I'm not sold on him being town, but I'm giving him a town lean over scum. His reaction to being sussed hard this RD makes me want to give him space to scum hunt. If he's town, we should be able to determine it via his game solveyness...that's a word right?

If he's scum, then we should be able to solve him the same way, and I will never ever let him get away with his reaction this game to being sussed ever again.

i guess you did say you town lean him here. but your explanation doesn’t feel like you were remotely convinced of his villageriness. that’s why i asked

Well I'm certainly not sold he's town, but do you at least see that I find it odd you question me for not having KZA in my POE when I've clearly said I town lean him?


As a thought exercise, pretend that I'm town and I'm telling you the truth in my posts about how I read things instead of the other way around.

i apologize for not remembering exactly what you said. i’ve had to process a ton of information in a short time and can’t remember the specifics of every post i’ve seen

what’s villagery about that post?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:52 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:52 pm i already have over 200 posts. but i feel like i have a lot less. weird

i love that you have more posts than me in a single day of being here :P

seems par for the course

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:53 pm do I need to explain my read?

well i won’t force you

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:54 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:47 pm put me on your locktown list for a good time

That's mildly suggestive young lady. Do your parents know you're behaving this way?

hey, for all you know a good time means playing scramble. get your mind out of the gutter

err, scrabble. not scramble. you get what i meant

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:00 am my role if pretty funny maybe I'll just claim so I can be killed

wait no i wanna be killed. pick me wolves. don’t listen to esooa

esooa is a villager

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:08 am

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:07 am esooa is a villager

why

became your role pm says so

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:59 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:57 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:45 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:44 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:42 pm How about everyone come up with a list of names that you'd be willing to bet the game on being town? It can be as big or as small as you like. I'll start.

JaggedJimmyJay
MacDougall
Michelle
Strawhenge

-jjj
+spf/you

Why -JJJ, why +SPF? Do you have concerns about JJJ?

bump

no

Honestly I'm probably not going to try at all until *maybe* a few more day phases. I don't need to and I hate multiball

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:00 am my role if pretty funny maybe I'll just claim so I can be killed

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:02 am I have a legitimately insanely broken effect

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:06 am

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:04 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:02 am I have a legitimately insanely broken effect

Same to be honest. Mine might be the strongest town role I've seen in a mafia forum game that didn't involve killing people.

oh cool. I'll use my one of my powers on you then

this sequence of posts does not come from a wolf

these people are my villagers (multiball caveat, ya da ya da)

mac
alison
odd
jay
spf
esooa
straw

i might add falcon and michelle. i hesitate to add anyone else

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:21 am

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:19 am these people are my villagers (multiball caveat, ya da ya da)

mac
alison
odd
jay
spf
esooa
straw

i might add falcon and michelle. i hesitate to add anyone else

i feel weird about my list. if my list is actually pure the game should be very easy. maybe this is another radiohead and we just got an insanely good rand but it feels almost too good to be true

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:22 am in my heart i still feel that sloonei is a villager

i want to believe but i give mac’s read a lot of weight

how am i meant to reconcile jay saying sloonei is a villager and mac saying he’s not? they know sloonei equally well but don’t have the same read

jay and mac, maybe try to hash this out between yourselves?

oh, really? that’s surprising. i would think mac would have a good read on sloonei

okay, nevermind then. i’ll defer to jay

this might actually be the first game i’ve played with both of you together? kinda weird if so

i wish dunya could have played. i haven’t played with her since my first game here i think

nook, what are your reads?

i fell asleep reading nook’s iso

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:53 am i fell asleep reading nook’s iso

this isn’t a joke btw. i literally passed out as i was reading his posts. i just woke up again

i’m going back to sleep

i agree that alison coincidentally having a real N0 on odd, the person she was already shielding and repping a fake N0 on, is bizzare. odd randomly claiming his flavor unprompted is also bizarre

i am choosing to ignore the bizarreness of these things because i’m hoping they will self-resolve, but they have not gone unnoticed

i think it’s unlikely w!alison works herself into a position where she’s almost surely going to be nk’d though. alison is extremely conscious of her thread position when she wolfs and i can’t really see how she would think making a claim that ensures she’ll either die or effectively be outed of she doesn’t is optimal. if she’s a wolf she knew the game was multiball. that means both teams likely have kill power. why risk drawing kp from the opposite team by making this claim? it seems unlikely

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:30 am

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:18 am i think it’s unlikely w!alison works herself into a position where she’s almost surely going to be nk’d though. alison is extremely conscious of her thread position when she wolfs and i can’t really see how she would think making a claim that ensures she’ll either die or effectively be outed of she doesn’t is optimal. if she’s a wolf she knew the game was multiball. that means both teams likely have kill power. why risk drawing kp from the opposite team by making this claim? it seems unlikely

Well the joke's already been made that Alison has drawn a NK if she's town, so that's neither here nor there.

She'll get solved, so I'm past it for now.

Take a look at fingersplints ISO and tell me what you think

i don’t really think much of it. splints is poe for me but i wouldn’t really be surprised to see her flip village. shrug

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:21 am Also probably TMI slip.

?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:27 am

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:26 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:21 am Also probably TMI slip.

?

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:07 amAll the townies in the thread were excited by the flip and subsequent revelations, and immediately set to work solving...

no.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:21 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:18 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:14 pm

Marmot
Ted
KZA
Odd
Al

If Odd is in your wolf reads, where does that put Alison?

Alison is a town read but trending downwards. Her decision to hardshield Odd seems well Odd to me. Odd has done nothing noteworthy to deserve a shield from such a prolific player. Maybe she knows something that I don't

she is literally claiming mechanical knowledge that odd is a villager

are you not reading the thread bo? i’m confused

BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:23 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:21 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:21 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:18 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:14 pm

Marmot
Ted
KZA
Odd
Al

If Odd is in your wolf reads, where does that put Alison?

Alison is a town read but trending downwards. Her decision to hardshield Odd seems well Odd to me. Odd has done nothing noteworthy to deserve a shield from such a prolific player. Maybe she knows something that I don't

she is literally claiming mechanical knowledge that odd is a villager

I don't read back no time. Read what's in front of me

alison is claiming a green check on oddmerta. now you know

1. Falcon - don’t kill
2. Tedextr - kill
3. Nanook - meh
4. Odd - don’t kill
5. Sloonei - meh
6. Esooa - don’t kill
7. Strawhenge - don’t kill
8. JaggedJimmyJay - don’t kill
9. Staypositivefriend - don’t kill
10. KZA - kill
11. MacDougall - don’t kill
12. Dom - kill
14. TSP - meh
15. Long Con - kill
16. Fingersplints - meh
18. JPIC - meh
19. Michelle - don’t kill
20. Alison - don’t kill
21. BoKnows - meh
22. Al Sama - kill

don’t kill:
falcon
odd
esooa
straw
jay
spf
mac
michelle
alison

meh:
nook
sloonei
tsp
splints
jpic
bo

kill:
ted
kza
dom
lc
al_sama

i want to refine this more but gth i guess this is where i’m at. meh

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:56 pm Dom would be a good vigilante target. He'd be a boring vigilante target, but I'd shoot 'em.

i was going to suggest this, yeah. would be a fine shot