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is sloonei a villager? his iso gives me strange vibes

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:28 pm I don’t know what slanking is. I feel like it may have been asked so perhaps I forgot

slanking is the opposite of try harding i.e. playing in a manner that indicates low effort

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:31 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:20 pm spf, why is marmot scum?
i struggle to believe that marmot believes the stuff that he has been saying. his reads lack a certain level of conviction that i would expect marmot to have if he was playing from a villager mindset.

marmot constantly floated tutuu as one of his number one suspects throughout the early-game (calling her an openwolf at one point), but when he was asked to go into more detail about his scumread on tutuu, he said this:

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:10 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:03 am @Marmot could you elaborate on those nanook and tutuu reads?
Tutuu's been an active presence in the thread, but changing her reads on a whim.
i find it difficult to believe that marmot carried this underlying suspicion about tutuu throughout the entirety of the game, and was only able to provide one short sentence explaining his scumread on her when he was prompted to. it concerns me even more that marmot voted for tutuu shortly after making this post. it gives me the impression that marmot does not particularly care about the accuracy of his read on tutuu and is pushing on her moreso for aesthetics sake

there were several moments where i felt that marmot outed reads/thoughts that felt ingenuine. i did not like his opinion about me and tutuu on https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 34#p761634. i did not like the false bravado on https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 75#p762175.

i am not confident about marmot being a wolf, but i find him wolfy

@Marmot why is tutuu changing her reads on a whim wolfy?

@Sloonei i have it on good authority that your tutuu read is wrong

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:33 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:28 pm is sloonei a villager? his iso gives me strange vibes
i believe that he probably is, yeah

@JaggedJimmyJay do you agree?

how strongly? and why?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:34 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:28 pm is sloonei a villager? his iso gives me strange vibes
Interesting

to be clear, i wasn’t saying i found your iso wolfy. i was just a bit taken aback by your tone seeming kind of deadpan/detached and most of your posts that i saw being one-liners that didn’t do much for me (though this was early on and i don’t know if you changed later)

but i talked myself out of this being wolfy for you because i decided that you might actually try to look better early on as a wolf and your vibe was possibly more likely an indication that you didn’t care how you were perceived early on. so i called it “strange” instead. your post about tutuu seems fine though

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:37 pm @TonyStarkPrime

Who are you talking about here?
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:24 pm “Why doesn’t tsp want to chop someone half a dozen people are telling him is confirmed town I wonder”
Are you talking about Michelle? Did you mean, 'Why does tsp want to chop someone half a dozen people are telling him is confirmed town'?

You also phrase this question like it's a no-brainer. I'm braining it; what does it mean?

Then this:
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:40 pm I thought Michelle was a wolf because when Michelle’s town I expect higher post counts and one or two off the wall weird interactions early. It’s not like I just threw a dart at a dartboard
I don't think you threw a dart at a dartboard at all. I think you either think, 'her meta's off' is enough of a reason to think she's scum, or you wanted to make a provocative read/vote.

this is a villagery post. i’m inclined to agree with the apparent consensus that strawhenge is a villager

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:53 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:50 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:33 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:28 pm is sloonei a villager? his iso gives me strange vibes
i believe that he probably is, yeah
@JaggedJimmyJay do you agree?

how strongly? and why?
I view Sloonei as a civilian. I am less sure of him than I am of falcon or Strawhenge, but I still think he is fine. I've had no gripes with the directions he has taken his hunt. We seem to be viewing the game in general through similar eyes. Despite being Work Boy he is still sustaining a high clip of activity, currently over 200 posts. I wouldn't call him a perfect expression of his town self, but right now I hardly care. There's no way in hell I am voting for Sloonei today. He's close enough.

alright

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:53 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:49 pm @Sloonei i have it on good authority that your tutuu read is wrong
What was tutuu's read on me?

you’d have to ask her

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:03 pm Tbh I never quite figured out how to read tutuu. Sometimes she said scummy things, sometimes she said town things. Combining this with how towny Hally looks right now is leaving me feeling pretty assured.

i’m surprised you think i look that villagery. i don’t think i’ve been very obvious so far. why do you think i have?

if jay, sloonei, mac, alison, spf and esooa are all villagers the wolves have already lost this game

so unless or until the people in the above group 1) start to suspect one of the others is a deep wolf or 2) lead us in a direction that shows itself to be wrong i’m inclined to go wherever the above group tells me to go and see what happens

if the names i’ve listed above are not villagers it will become very apparent when we don’t stomp this game

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:14 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:53 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:49 pm @Sloonei i have it on good authority that your tutuu read is wrong
What was tutuu's read on me?
you’d have to ask her
You’re the closest I can get to that.

But it was a rhetorical question. The answer is “basically the same as yours.” Which is curious, because no one else in the game has been reading me that way.

what is my read on you?

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:16 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:09 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:03 pm Tbh I never quite figured out how to read tutuu. Sometimes she said scummy things, sometimes she said town things. Combining this with how towny Hally looks right now is leaving me feeling pretty assured.
i’m surprised you think i look that villagery. i don’t think i’ve been very obvious so far. why do you think i have?
It's mostly how you jumped right into asking questions and making reads almost immediately. I feel like someone replacing an anti-town role would more likely hang back and gauge the situation before diving right in. Specifically with the kind of thing you did in responding to me: Asking players their reasoning to their reads.

fwiw nothing i’ve done so far is remotely out of my wolf range. but okay, this is reasonable enough for someone who doesn’t know me

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:21 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:20 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:14 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:53 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:49 pm @Sloonei i have it on good authority that your tutuu read is wrong
What was tutuu's read on me?
you’d have to ask her
You’re the closest I can get to that.

But it was a rhetorical question. The answer is “basically the same as yours.” Which is curious, because no one else in the game has been reading me that way.
what is my read on you?
“ to be clear, i wasn’t saying i found your iso wolfy. i was just a bit taken aback by your tone seeming kind of deadpan/detached and most of your posts that i saw being one-liners that didn’t do much for me (though this was early on and i don’t know if you changed later)

but i talked myself out of this being wolfy for you because i decided that you might actually try to look better early on as a wolf and your vibe was possibly more likely an indication that you didn’t care how you were perceived early on. so i called it “strange” instead. your post about tutuu seems fine though”

that’s specifically a lack of a read on you

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:25 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:23 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:21 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:20 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:14 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:53 pm

What was tutuu's read on me?
you’d have to ask her
You’re the closest I can get to that.

But it was a rhetorical question. The answer is “basically the same as yours.” Which is curious, because no one else in the game has been reading me that way.
what is my read on you?
“ to be clear, i wasn’t saying i found your iso wolfy. i was just a bit taken aback by your tone seeming kind of deadpan/detached and most of your posts that i saw being one-liners that didn’t do much for me (though this was early on and i don’t know if you changed later)

but i talked myself out of this being wolfy for you because i decided that you might actually try to look better early on as a wolf and your vibe was possibly more likely an indication that you didn’t care how you were perceived early on. so i called it “strange” instead. your post about tutuu seems fine though”
that’s specifically a lack of a read on you
Precisely.

do you find it curious i didn’t have a concrete read on you after subbing into a 3000 post thread and skimming the first couple of pages of your iso?

here’s a bad read that’s potentially still correct:

sloonei is a villager for being so preoccupied that one slot in the game doesn’t see him as the obvious villager he thinks he is

marmot is being voted by spf, jay, sloonei and michelle

if that wagon doesn’t lunch a wolf something is very wrong in the universe

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

@MacDougall do you agree with this?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:38 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:30 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:25 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:23 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:21 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:20 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:14 pm
You’re the closest I can get to that.

But it was a rhetorical question. The answer is “basically the same as yours.” Which is curious, because no one else in the game has been reading me that way.
what is my read on you?
“ to be clear, i wasn’t saying i found your iso wolfy. i was just a bit taken aback by your tone seeming kind of deadpan/detached and most of your posts that i saw being one-liners that didn’t do much for me (though this was early on and i don’t know if you changed later)

but i talked myself out of this being wolfy for you because i decided that you might actually try to look better early on as a wolf and your vibe was possibly more likely an indication that you didn’t care how you were perceived early on. so i called it “strange” instead. your post about tutuu seems fine though”
that’s specifically a lack of a read on you
Precisely.
do you find it curious i didn’t have a concrete read on you after subbing into a 3000 post thread and skimming the first couple of pages of your iso?
I think it is curious that you specifically stated a position on me that mirrors your predecessors in a way that I had already become wary of but had not yet articulated.

i’m clearly a tutuu alt

(but really, tutuu and i tend to view games very similarly when we’re both villagers. if anything that should be a sign i’m a villager. if tutuu and i were wolves bs’ing a read on you i probably wouldn’t have unknowingly agreed with your read because both our reads would be fake)

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:41 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:38 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:30 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:25 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:23 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:21 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:20 pm
what is my read on you?
“ to be clear, i wasn’t saying i found your iso wolfy. i was just a bit taken aback by your tone seeming kind of deadpan/detached and most of your posts that i saw being one-liners that didn’t do much for me (though this was early on and i don’t know if you changed later)

but i talked myself out of this being wolfy for you because i decided that you might actually try to look better early on as a wolf and your vibe was possibly more likely an indication that you didn’t care how you were perceived early on. so i called it “strange” instead. your post about tutuu seems fine though”
that’s specifically a lack of a read on you
Precisely.
do you find it curious i didn’t have a concrete read on you after subbing into a 3000 post thread and skimming the first couple of pages of your iso?
I think it is curious that you specifically stated a position on me that mirrors your predecessors in a way that I had already become wary of but had not yet articulated.
i’m clearly a tutuu alt

(but really, tutuu and i tend to view games very similarly when we’re both villagers. if anything that should be a sign i’m a villager. if tutuu and i were wolves bs’ing a read on you i probably wouldn’t have unknowingly agreed with your read because both our reads would be fake)

*with HER read, not yours

what’s more likely?

1) my slot is a wolf slot. i am faking all my reads and happened to fake the same sort of read that tutuu also decided to fake

2) my slot is a village slot. i, like tutuu, am genuinely making reads. i unknowingly voiced the same sort of read she had because we normally agree when we’re villagers and both of us are viewing the game in good faith

i submit that it’s clearly option 2 and therefore i’m lock clear

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:51 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:49 pm what’s more likely?

1) my slot is a wolf slot. i am faking all my reads and happened to fake the same sort of read that tutuu also decided to fake

2) my slot is a village slot. i, like tutuu, am genuinely making reads. i unknowingly voiced the same sort of read she had because we normally agree when we’re villagers and both of us are viewing the game in good faith

i submit that it’s clearly option 2 and therefore i’m lock clear
I don't find it particularly hard to imagine you replacing into this game as a wolf and deciding to echo the same suspicions that your predecessor had - if you ~are~ a wolf, then you almost certainly looked into your predecessor and their stances before you started posting reads

i'm not calling you a wolf. i just think this argument is a littleeee sketchy lol

it’s a joke. i’m obviously not lock clear lol

or well, it’s true. but it was meant as a joke. i just like saying i’m lock clear

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:53 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:49 pm what’s more likely?

1) my slot is a wolf slot. i am faking all my reads and happened to fake the same sort of read that tutuu also decided to fake

2) my slot is a village slot. i, like tutuu, am genuinely making reads. i unknowingly voiced the same sort of read she had because we normally agree when we’re villagers and both of us are viewing the game in good faith

i submit that it’s clearly option 2 and therefore i’m lock clear
Option 3: tutu had her reads in scum chat and hally picked up on them quickly

Option 4: hally did a quick search to find tutus reads and carry them on

You are probably town tho

this is a funny way to spell “lock clear”

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:54 pm Anyways @Hally how are you reading spf

the posts i’ve seen from her have been good enough

mac
alison
michelle
falcon
esooa
spf
straw
jay
sloonei

i’m going to call all these people villagers* unless @MacDougall disagrees

*note that they they probably are not all villagers unless the universe has blessed me. but i want to live in a world where they are and see what shakes out

i didn’t expect to see 250 posts when i clicked on boknows’ iso

i don’t want to read 250 posts

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:09 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:08 pm i didn’t expect to see 250 posts when i clicked on boknows’ iso

i don’t want to read 250 posts
Skim it plz

I desperately want to not be the only one townreading him

i’d rather just let my read on him develop in real time because i don’t know him well enough to have any sort of snap impression from skimming his iso

@Oddmerta from reading al_sama’s iso i gather that you two know each other well. what’s their alignment?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:09 pm I don't figure most folks would be inclined to sub into a game as a mafioso and then deliberately work to ensure their reads are in alignment with their predecessor's reads. Humans are never that consistent, and I think Hally would interpret that strategy as a How To Get Suspected Instantly.

This doesn't mean much. They can be town or mafia regardless of this. I'll continue leaning town for now with two hours left.

i can confirm that i would not intentionally blatantly copy tutuu’s reads as a wolf

i don’t like that my reads are almost all a combination of vague impressions, sponging others and #wanting

unfortunately i currently lack the means to change this

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:24 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:16 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:09 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:03 pm Tbh I never quite figured out how to read tutuu. Sometimes she said scummy things, sometimes she said town things. Combining this with how towny Hally looks right now is leaving me feeling pretty assured.
i’m surprised you think i look that villagery. i don’t think i’ve been very obvious so far. why do you think i have?
It's mostly how you jumped right into asking questions and making reads almost immediately. I feel like someone replacing an anti-town role would more likely hang back and gauge the situation before diving right in. Specifically with the kind of thing you did in responding to me: Asking players their reasoning to their reads.
I strongly advise not giving Hally a townread for breathing.

what if i hold my breath? can i have a town read then?

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:27 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:26 pm what if i hold my breath? can i have a town read then?
only if you can prove that you're holding in your breath

that may present a logistical challenge

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:27 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:26 pm what if i hold my breath? can i have a town read then?
Only if you can hold it for more than 60 secs!

are you trying to kill me?

i’m honestly not sure how to contribute to this game right now. i was really hoping it would be about half the size lol

this is what i get for not opening the thread before saying i’d replace in

this feels like a game that will either be very easy or very hard

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:41 pm I can't catch up on 13 pages before EoD

I was trying

Hi @Hally

hiiiiiiii

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:05 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:01 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:00 pm [VOTE: Al] aubergine

This is the best of the current wagons.
Do you genuinely believe Al is the scummiest active wagon or is this self pres?

Also this wording implies there is someone who you'd rather see exed over Al but who isn't an active wagon. Who is it?
It is both.

I've seen reasons for both Ted and TSP to be town. Al on the other hand posted an awkward readlist yesterday and not much since then.

If this game happens to be multi-ball, Nanook and spf should be given another look. They were both suspicions I had earlier on before they claimed mason.

they claimed masons?

i read al_sama’s iso and my conclusion was essentially the same as esooa. it’s a shrug poe lunch that i’m not opposed to but i figure that they have about rand chance to be a wolf

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:12 pm Is mason a role?

yes. masons are villagers who are confirmed to each other and share btsc

oddmerta is the only one in the game who knows al_sama and yet his iso contains no read of al_sama despite them being a consensus suspect

kind of curious

what do people think of oddmerta?

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:10 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:06 pm
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:05 pm
AL_sama wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:01 pm
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:55 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:32 pm Hello folks. I voted for 8pm!
This post, we can all clearly see that he voted for 8pm. Why feel the need to tell us this at all?
it could very well mean something or nothing at all
It's one of those gaps in logic that I look for when I play this game
What gap in what logic?
Town behaviour logic, the gap being giving us the 'courtesy'of telling us what time he voted for even though it's clearly visible to everyone.

i struggle to see how this is a real read

who town reads odd and why? i think his iso is kind of atrocious but i dunno if it’s like... twtbaw or something

interesting. ok

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:22 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:21 pm who town reads odd and why? i think his iso is kind of atrocious but i dunno if it’s like... twtbaw or something
Alison has shielded him hard. He's gotten less strong support from Mac, Nanook, Sloonei, and I think a couple others.

@Alison @MacDougall @Sloonei @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME why?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:25 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:24 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:22 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:21 pm who town reads odd and why? i think his iso is kind of atrocious but i dunno if it’s like... twtbaw or something
Alison has shielded him hard. He's gotten less strong support from Mac, Nanook, Sloonei, and I think a couple others.
@Alison @MacDougall @Sloonei @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME why?
His early Day 0/1 reads were silly and outrageous to the point that I think a wolf would be more conscious about trying to fit in than he was being.

he strikes me as the kind of player who would be silly and outrageous as a wolf

i don’t think he’s the same as radiohead. do you?

there are certain kinds of players that would hesitate to stick out so much as a wolf and go against the grain

i would be shocked if that applies to oddmerta based on the archetype he falls into

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