The Syndicate

I just read through Jack's ISO and though there were lots of jokey posts there were also posts with content. I couldn't fine anything that made me suspicious and I agree with one of his good reads, Luna. Anyone want to speak to signs of bad Jack?

Also, in reading Jack I noticed that timmer had made a point about Soneji that I brought up in my summary of why I was voting for him. Sorry timmer I should have credited you but I had forgotten you had made the point.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:59 am Bad Jack signs are mostly these ones.

hahaha

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:31 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:42 am I just read through Jack's ISO and though there were lots of jokey posts there were also posts with content. I couldn't fine anything that made me suspicious and I agree with one of his good reads, Luna. Anyone want to speak to signs of bad Jack?

Also, in reading Jack I noticed that timmer had made a point about Soneji that I brought up in my summary of why I was voting for him. Sorry timmer I should have credited you but I had forgotten you had made the point.
Jack is kind of like McDougall or turnip head to me, liking to do whatever the hell they want and then suddenly pulling a one-eighty and laying down some sick Mafia insight and catching Baddies. During that IDGAF time, it's hard for me to alignment read them, mostly they just look bad to me but I know that's just their schtick.

I forget his Luna opinion, when you say it's one of his Good reads, do you mean it's a civ read or it's a really good Mafia read?

Thanks for the insight. I meant he reads her as civ as do I at the moment, notwithstanding her Owner and Epi are scum teammates comment that I disagree with.

I just re-read timmer and found a couple of things about Luna like her Kyle slip opinion (though she kinda backed off that) and timmer's questions about her Bullz vote/not vote that I don't see an answer to. I need to re-evaluate my statement above that she is good by re-reading her which may not happen today.

Just brining this forward to the current page so we can see who Jay is talking about.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:00 pm For the remainder of the game:

ColinIsCool = Cornelius
DharmaHelper = Dennis
insertnamehere = Isaiah
Kylemii = Kevin

Bullzeye = Bucky
Epignosis = Earnest
Glorfindel = Georgio
Sloonei = Stanley
poutanko = Penelope

juliets = Janet
Long Con = Lorenzo
Lunalee = Lisa
MacDougall = Mark
nutella = Nancy
Quin = Qasim

Jackofhearts2005 = Jordan
karavalenge = Karen
sprityo = Sid
timmer = Theodore

Oh sorry its already on this page. whoops!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:55 pm Seriously gang, I only mean to have a little fun and make myself chuckle. Life is a bit of a dead fog otherwise. If it's confusing or annoying I will stop though.

You could use it but if one of us says "Jay wtf is that" maybe you could tell us. I hate to put a damper on anyone's fun.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:25 pm I changed my vote to Colin for now.

I'm curious as to why, would you share? Also, do you still suspect Lunalee? I don't expect you to answer at night but maybe when Day 3 comes around you would.

but why???? rezz please

Oh wow I'm back in the game though I am sorry Glorf felt the need to withdraw. I've been skimming along but not paying as much attention as a player. I need to re-read EOD day 3 and then I'll try some reads. I may not give reads till day starts again though because someone killed my friend juliets 1 in the night.

While I'm thinking about it I think I know a way 3 people could have died on one night. This is one of the magical creatures:

[Hippogriff]: Strong and proud creature that is a mix between a horse and an eagle. It will protect its owner, reflexively killing any students who use negative abilities on them during the night. However, it won’t stop those abilities itself.

If one of the now-dead targeted some one with a role block or any other negative ability and the target had a hippogriff it seems like the targeter would have been killed. Maybe I'm overlooking something but the way I read it it's possible.

OK on to re-reading.

linki mellow down with me DH

Jay, are you looking at how Glorf has been handled throughout the game because you are suspicious of those who suspected him? The post didn't say that but it was implied in some of your thoughts so I just want to clarify. (I understand the point about LC after the lynch is a little different.)

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:14 pm What do we think of me building the case that led to LC's no-lynch fam. Honest answers.

I like this idea.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:25 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:23 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:14 pm What do we think of me building the case that led to LC's no-lynch fam. Honest answers.
I like this idea.
Well I already built the case, I'm asking what people think of me after the LC no-lynch. Since I built the case that would have lynched him.

I think you look civ, even if LC is innocent somehow.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:14 am I dunno you guys, Horcruxes sound good, let’s hear LC out.

But if he had one doesn't that mean he is bad since they aren't anywhere in the set-up explanations and the mafia have secrets? I do agree with you thought about hearing LC out.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:09 am DharmaHerper is too herpful to be Mafia.

Sprityo on the other hand.

Agreed. I know sprityo didn't want to play because he told us that in discord when we were asking him to sign up, but now that he's in I would expect him to jump in and contribute. I'm worried about him.

I have a doctors appointment and physical therapy today so I will be in and out. See you later.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:06 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:53 am Ok so since people asked

juliets has kill immunity tonight, to go in line with previous replacements.
Poor juliets, she just replaced in and it looks like the mafia already tried to take her out. :P

And here I was thinking maybe someone was trying to protect me needlessly.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:50 am
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:42 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:14 am I dunno you guys, Horcruxes sound good, let’s hear LC out.
But if he had one doesn't that mean he is bad since they aren't anywhere in the set-up explanations and the mafia have secrets? I do agree with you thought about hearing LC out.
I was actually being super sarcastic

Dang. Went right over my head. I still want to hear from LC even though I think there is about a 7 in 10 chance for him to be bad. I almost never make a final decision until I've heard both sides.

linki

Just a few thoughts - this probably is player salad but putting the thoughts in separate posts seems silly.

Jay described very well how I feel about nutella (not the part where I think we are of the same mind though, that is specific to Jay). I go up and down and around and around on her. I'll read her today and see if I can come to a more definitive decision.

I've been much the same with luna though in Luna's case I see her most recent stuff as more civ than bad. I didn't feel like her comment on LC was distancing or bussing, it sounded genuine to me. I'll confirm how I feel about her with a read today too.

JJJ - if I'm remembering correctly he was bad in Ass Class along with Mac. That was a heavy duty baddie team. I will probably take a look there to refresh on what they look like when bad. Others may want to do the same. He and Mac fooled us totally and completely. (Jay, it's not that I'm reading you bad at the moment but that game was humiliating and I just want to be sure I don't see parallels.)

I looked at Quin's scum game (the one for which he won the Best Baddie Socky) and his behavior looks nothing like this game. His short punchy style here to me says town but was there someone else out there who said they saw this style out of him as a baddie in some recent game?

[mention]nutella[/mention] one thing that would help me with my read is if you tell me why you were suspicious of juliet 1. She asked you after you showed her as bad in your GTH reads but you declined to answer. To my knowledge it hasn't come up since. Also you mentioned you saw Kyle as bad - what was the reason for that? I am aware you are wrong at times as a civ as we all are (and also that you can be right on the money like in Phenom) so I am not trying to gig you for your reasoning. Just trying to understand how your mind is working.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:45 pm @juliets, I was a civilian in Ass Class. It’s an understandable mistake because I sucked so much in that game.

Oh damn Jay I am sorry. Thanks for stopping me before I flipped through the whole game.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:01 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:46 pm @nutella one thing that would help me with my read is if you tell me why you were suspicious of juliet 1. She asked you after you showed her as bad in your GTH reads but you declined to answer. To my knowledge it hasn't come up since. Also you mentioned you saw Kyle as bad - what was the reason for that? I am aware you are wrong at times as a civ as we all are (and also that you can be right on the money like in Phenom) so I am not trying to gig you for your reasoning. Just trying to understand how your mind is working.
It was a gut/tone thing, I think someone else described you as sounding a little more harsh in some of your responses and I felt the same way-- just got a bad feeling from some of your posts early on. As for Kyle, I really never know how to read him since he's mostly jokey regardless of alignment, but I was wary of his lack of content (and I think there may have been some specific interaction between you two that had me draw a connection but I don't remember)

Yes Jay described juliets 1 that way so that makes sense. And I can't read Kyle's jokey posts either. And I'm pretty sure I did have an interaction with him. Thanks for your response.

karavalenge wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:53 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:40 pm
karavalenge wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:34 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:44 pm
karavalenge wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:39 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:21 pm karavalenge, could you please talk a little about the votes you made during the final stretch of Day 3? Thanks so much! Much appreciated! Wonderful!
Already said it. I came in with like thirty minutes left and saw it was 4-3, Colin vs Long Con. I decided to tie it since I believed Long was more likely to be mafia.

I checked again at about 5 minutes left and it had switched to Glorfindel vs Long Con. Same reasoning, I switched to Glorfindel because I believed they were more likely to be mafia.

I did not post any vote tags because I didn't want to make a fight over Hallow powers.
How do you feel about those three players right now as we emerge from a lynchless finish?
This was like, 5 pages ago now, but might as well since Jay's the only one interacting with me for the most part and I don't want to just give up on this game completely.

I still feel like any of them could be lynched. I don't think their position coming into the next day is any stronger than the last. I think what happens during the night will be very important for determining who to lynch tomorrow.

I do not have more than "feelings" because I am having difficulty following the game, it is extremely fast-paced.
This is...not a great post. Do you have any specific opinions about those people? Who do you want to lynch?
Personally? I'd vote to lynch Jay because Jay has been really nice and understanding to me when I expect more posts like this one. I am not good at saying what people want to hear in this game (clearly, as you put it, not a great post). Most everyone has me down for a civ or middle scum and I have no idea why for either.

So yeah, sorry. I can't explain myself, I'm too complicated. And too tired from this game. I still don't know how to feel about Colin or Glor or Long Con simply because I can't keep up. I'll say that Glorfindel's "I'm town" after the vote was ended looked more scummy than anything else did during that rush.

kara, we are hypothesizing that since there are no known spells/items that can save someone from a lynch, Long Con is probably bad and it's in his role power. The baddie powers are secret. There might be another explanation that would lead us to believe Long Con is good but we can't really come up with one. Maybe LC can tell us himself why he's good and it will be believable but most of us are doubtful.

Can I ask why you found Glorf's "I'm town" scummy?

[mention]nutella[/mention] one of the things you state is that Bullz was clearly bad. That's not so clear to me (do not make fun of me because everyone else probably understands why you said that). Would you share some specifics on why you see him that way?

I should clarify I'm talking just about Bullz and not speed's actions or lack thereof.

RIP Epi, I hate to see you gone. Goodbye LC. looking forward to A World Asunder. And INH is back. Bleh.

I spent a lot of time during the night reading over nutella because I couldn't make up my mind about her. I found many of her thoughts matched what I thought about people (Mac and Jay excluded). Something I had noticed before that I noticed again is she come straight out about people she suspects and takes an assertive even aggressive tone. I don't think she would do that if she were bad. She also apologized for asking about the hallow because she thought that might have caused juliet 1's death. So, I am sorting her out of my POE. I will do a list today of who I've sorted out and who's still in.

a million linkis

good morning everyone -

sprityo, any thoughts this morning?

I wasn't active last night mostly because I was immersed in election results and had a disappointing game night which kinda got my head out of the game. I did skim what was happening. I feel much better today though, the game goes on.

I totally agree with Jay's statement about speed's reaction to a red check. I think most people would be reacting with more emotion. I'm somewhat confused though about one thing: what is the tangle regarding what speed and Quin are claiming about their night actions? I got confused somehow reading through it I'm also torn about whether to vote speed or INH today. Are those of you voting speed doing so because you're afraid INH has a lynch protect a la LC? Or is there another reason you consider him more dangerous. Apologies if I missed the explanation.

I don't have time this morning to publish a list of who's currently in and out of my POE but I will do it when I get home from work, hopefully around 3:00.

I had time after all. Note this list may change - just because someone is out of the POE right now doesn't mean they will stay out. Depends on future behavior. And obviously people can and should move up to civ.

I'm reading these people as civ (these are not in any particular order):

Jay
nutella
DH
Mac
poutanko
Quin
Colin
kara

Unsure about:

Jack
Luna - she's right on the line, I will try to clear her next
Sloonei
sprityo
timmer - I thought I had cleared him but then something happened - need to re-read soon

Pretty sure he's bad and know he's bad:

speed
INH

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:09 am
juliets wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:15 am I totally agree with Jay's statement about speed's reaction to a red check. I think most people would be reacting with more emotion.
Cop checks I get. Can't be helped, fate is sealed, no reason to get all hot. But this line of reasoning is stupid.

Just got home and am catching up - what exactly is stupid?

Ok, I have been debating this at work and have decided that given the confusion about the night actions I should at least clear one of them up (or make it more confusing).

When I got Glorf's role card I was blown away to see that he had the Phoenix. I suspect he was waiting to use it if JJJ died but of course I don't know for sure. So I promptly did what Colin has been begging everyone to do and I used it, targeting Turnip Head. When dawn came I felt punched in the stomach to see that INH had been rezzed. I suspect I was targeted with Imperio though the only way that makes much sense is if the mafia already knew where the Phoenix was. I mean, why would they target me of all people with Imperio?

So mix that into the cake batter and see if we get a less lumpy cake - or is it now more lumpy?

lots of linki which I will read now

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:19 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:14 pm Ok, I have been debating this at work and have decided that given the confusion about the night actions I should at least clear one of them up (or make it more confusing).

When I got Glorf's role card I was blown away to see that he had the Phoenix. I suspect he was waiting to use it if JJJ died but of course I don't know for sure. So I promptly did what Colin has been begging everyone to do and I used it, targeting Turnip Head. When dawn came I felt punched in the stomach to see that INH had been rezzed. I suspect I was targeted with Imperio though the only way that makes much sense is if the mafia already knew where the Phoenix was. I mean, why would they target me of all people with Imperio?

So mix that into the cake batter and see if we get a less lumpy cake - or is it now more lumpy?

lots of linki which I will read now
Did Glor fail N1 or more likely N2? If they misdirected you into a dead player, they had to know you had a phoenix.

This means scum misdirect shenanigans very unlikely to be the cause of Speed/Quin discrepancy.

I didn't remember Glorf failing but if he did I at least feel better that he tried to use it. And yes, they had to know.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:22 pm Wait juliets what do you mean you don't remember? DDL should have told you his actions.

DAMN DDL did tell me Glorfs actions and trying to use the Phoenix wasn't one of them.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:40 pm Looks like I got a lot to read?

Yeah DH and after you do could you explain to me what went on last night with speed and quin? So confused...

Oh also, I voted INH.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:27 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:48 pm Let's make another summary:

Quin's claim: Expecto Patronum directed at Timmer and Sloonei. <Patronus> Blocks redirects and other dark arts for Quin, Timmer, Sloonei.

Speed's claim: Quin visited Long Con.

For both claims to be true:
Timmer had to use a diricawl on Long Con. Didn't happen, or I'd have seen it. Timmer also denies it. NOT POSSIBLE.
OR
A redirector had to target (my floo partner), aiming to redirect them at Timmer for some reason. I got caught in it instead. I got directed at Timmer, and saw Quin there with ???. This adds an extra scum night action when we already know they did a lot of things. It also nails my other spotted suspect as scum. NEAR IMPOSSIBLE.

Quin is lying. His story doesn't make sense, he targeted Sloonei for some reason, he only revealed one target at first.

I am almost certain that Quin tried to Patronus Long Con and my other visitor broke through it with the Elder Wand. Surprisingly, it requires the least assumptions.
This is the Quin/speed thing.

If you have questions, @juliets, you know where to find me

speed could you be more specific about what your floo partner did or are you saying he was a target? And if you are saying your floo partner was the re-director who does he/she say they re-directed? Thats the part I'm confused about. Thank you.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:28 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:26 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:25 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:24 pm Remaining scum are in this pile: INH, Speed, Sloonei, Quin, Luna, sprit. Objections?
My POE is the same, except Luna is swapped for Jack.
@ColinIsCool @jay, how would each of you rank these suspects from least to most suspicious?
@anyone else, do you have any objections to these lists in any way?
JJJ's list is better.

Otherwise, no objections.

I'm not convinced on Sloonei and Luna. I can understand why some people suspect Luna. Are people suspecting Sloonei based on LC's vote for Turnip? Or are there other things I'm not remembering?

Ok thanks Jay and speed. I understand why Sloonei is not looking good now.

Also, at the beginning of the day I sorted Quin as civ but now that I understand exactly what the confusion is about last night I can see putting him back in my POE. I am going to listen to what he has to say though, just like I've listened to speed. I don't think they can both be bad (but correct me if you think that's wrong).

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:41 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:53 pm If Quin is bad and was targeting his teammate Long Con, what ability might he have been using?
Was this question ever answered?
Additionally, I want to ask who we'd believe more in the Quin vs. Speedchuck split if poutanko's cop claim didn't exist?
And also if there's a scenario in which all three of speedchuck, quin, and poutanko are town and telling the truth?

If these are things that have already been discussed then you can just slap me and point me in the right direction. But I'm hung up on these reported night actions right now and feel like it's the most pressing issue we've got right now.

Ok Sloon, I looked through all of the spells, potions, etc. and the only thing I could find was if Quin gave Long Con the Elixir of Life and someone else targeted LC with Petrificus Totalus which prevents the person targeted from drinking a potion. If that had happened and Speed was watching Long Con he would have seen three people visit LC, Quin, the potion canceller and a vig - unless LC was not killed by a vig. Anyway, it would have been quite complicated and seemingly a 1 in 1000 chance. (I made those numbers up.)

Maybe someone else see's something more realistic.

omgosh tons of linki

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:28 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:41 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:53 pm If Quin is bad and was targeting his teammate Long Con, what ability might he have been using?
Was this question ever answered?
Additionally, I want to ask who we'd believe more in the Quin vs. Speedchuck split if poutanko's cop claim didn't exist?
And also if there's a scenario in which all three of speedchuck, quin, and poutanko are town and telling the truth?

If these are things that have already been discussed then you can just slap me and point me in the right direction. But I'm hung up on these reported night actions right now and feel like it's the most pressing issue we've got right now.
Ok Sloon, I looked through all of the spells, potions, etc. and the only thing I could find was if Quin gave Long Con the Elixir of Life and someone else targeted LC with Petrificus Totalus which prevents the person targeted from drinking a potion. If that had happened and Speed was watching Long Con he would have seen three people visit LC, Quin, the potion canceller and a vig - unless LC was not killed by a vig. Anyway, it would have been quite complicated and seemingly a 1 in 1000 chance. (I made those numbers up.)

Maybe someone else see's something more realistic.

omgosh tons of linki
I appreciate these thoughts. I suppose another possibility is that quin was simply using protego/wingardium leviosa on his teammate LC, if those are abilities he has access to.

I suppose my next question in this line (for anybody) would be this: Why does speedchuck come out with this specific story if he is bad?

(Hello everyone, I'm not ignoring this debate but I do want to answer Sloonei's point from a little while ago.)

But if Quin used one of those abilities why did LC die?

And I think your question about speed is a good one. I'm going to try to track back and find who said what first and just how the conversation developed in search for an answer.

And I thought I was confused before...

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:08 am
Another important factor in all of this is INH's resurrection. Do we think that was an accident, or something the Death Eaters actively conspired toward? If the latter, then they'd be basing their entire strategy for the day around it. The potential for bold and wacky lies would be greater in that case. Speedchuck's claim seems more calculated than Quin's.
If the former, and they were as surprised as the rest of us to see INH back among the living today, then they'd have to improvise their plans for the day. Quin's claim seems like the more improvised of the two.

Juliets claims to have attempted to resurrect Turnip Head last night, but Turnip Head is certifiably not resurrected. Instead we have INH. The presence of [SECRETS] makes it difficult to speculate on what might have happened, but it's unclear from the visible abilities whether or not they could have knowingly redirected a resurrection onto one of their dead partners. It's possible they had a more general redirection which was used on Juliets, and because her ability was targeting a dead player, the pool of potential target changes shifted the dead roster, and INH's name happened to be plucked from there. In any event, what we know is that Juliets' claimed night action did not happen, but that the same action was carried out on a different player who happens to be bad.

All of this is to say that we have a lot of variables and unknowns and this is confusing so it's a good thing we have a confirmed scum to default to today or else we'd all have died of confusion by now. Someone please help.

My belief is that they actively conspired toward it. I think they used a spell that told them the power that Glorf had, maybe night 2, and knew to try and target it night 3 because something I didn't even notice myself is it's an odd night power (which could explain why Glorf didn't use it night 1). I only read the top of my role card and didn't notice that underneath it said it was an odd night power. So I think the mafia knew their chances were good that I would use it at my first opportunity night 3. They may have even thought Glorf would have used it night 3 - he may not have wanted to use it night 1 when there was only one person to choose from to rezz.

Anyway, this is all speculation based on the fact I think they used Imperio on me and probably knew about the Phoenix because they pointed the power to a dead person, INH. But again, I'm just guessing. I don't really understand what you mean by it happening by "accident". Would they have directed to a dead player by accident?

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:36 am I don’t understand a fucking thing you people are talking about.

lol Colin, I am totally empathetic. I read last night in real time and could barely hang with it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:29 am Hey so what if Timmer is lying about being a vig? What does that do to all these floating theories?

FYI we have had a dead mafia literally EVERY night. 3 from 3. Anyone the least bit concerned about this? Especially given our known vig is actually not responsible for either of them?

Now on night 3 one of our dead Mafia is back among the living and just basically wondering around wearing his Death Eater cloak.

Paranoid theory time.

What if they are dying on purpose? We know there is lynch stopping. What if they can be killed to hide them from being lynched and they can be resurrected unless they are lynched?

Mac, you are so good at these paranoid theories that make us think outside the box. One thing that strikes me is wouldn't that be terribly unbalanced if they could come back as they wish? I'm not a balance oriented person but it seems like that would just be too much.

karavalenge wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:39 am I already gave my reasoning for diricawl.

I want to die because my continued presence is not a help to the serious players. I assumed someone would kill Speedchuck last night, who I still believe to be Town regardless of a Cop call when there were over 20 spells flung around night 1.

The floo powder today was because I found his information intriguing and believed him. If you think that using floo on a called out scum and then admitting it is a scummy thing to do, you must think I'm extremely dumb.

I'm not, I just stopped caring 60 pages ago.

kara I don't know what you mean by your continued presence is not a help to the serious players. If you are civ your continued presence is CRUCIAL to our game. We need people who will vote and you are also contributing to the thread. I don't think you are extremely dumb. Please don't quit.

TH I see you - I'm so sorry, I tried to bring you back. I was so excited.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:50 am DH and Mac town v Town. Because their entire arguement wasted time and accomplished close to nothing.

sprityo what do you think about the speed vs. Quin debate?

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:41 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:55 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:50 am DH and Mac town v Town. Because their entire arguement wasted time and accomplished close to nothing.
sprityo what do you think about the speed vs. Quin debate?
That’s a debate? I didn’t recognize that was a thing

Yes, they are both swearing by their night actions but it's almost impossible for both of them to be right. Each is calling the other a liar. It appears that one of them is bad.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:44 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:56 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:50 am DH and Mac town v Town. Because their entire arguement wasted time and accomplished close to nothing.
But who is bad?
Want you to check my iso and look about 3 posts above this one. The one where I say Speedchuck is mafia if DH’s theory of one mafia per house holds true

And the one after it where I tell juliets how that post was ignored like redheaded stepchild

sprityo, I went back and looked at that post but the only person you have listed as bad that I can see is speed. Is there anyone else? We are mostly dealing with a pool of candidates now that we think are bad. Who is that pool for you?

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