The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:56 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:04 pm I was looking for alternative places to plop the ol’ vote, and I was surprised how perturbed I was when I scanned Soneji’s posts. I will explain soon, but for now y’all can take your own looks.
Soneji is the most scummy player in the game and after all the fun and games are over I am going to destroy. In the meantime though there is still fun to be had.

Quin, you suck.

If Soneji is the scummiest player in the game why were you only inspired to mention him after Jay brought him up as a prime lynch candidate?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:37 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:34 pm give me the down-low on the modern events please
everyone knows you're mafia, but we're saving your lynch for a later phase and drawing out interactions.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:17 pm @timmer, it is highly unlikely that you have information on Bullzeye. I know this. So please expand on whatever rationale leads to your civilian read no him.

What do you mean you know this? What do you know? Immediately after his post I found a likely explanation in the roles that makes sense to me and is not a cop or LD.

timmer wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:24 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:17 pm timmer, it is highly unlikely that you have information on Bullzeye. I know this. So please expand on whatever rationale leads to your civilian read no him.
I have inferred he is civ from information of sorts, and I won't expand on it, I'm sorry. If people don't trust me enough to follow me on that, I'll have to be ok with it, but I'm keeping those cards close. Like I said previously though, I'm not a player with a cop item, it's different than that.

This checks out with what I thought. Sure it's not direct information but it makes sense on a few levels and is a reasonable inference.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:25 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:24 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:17 pm timmer, it is highly unlikely that you have information on Bullzeye. I know this. So please expand on whatever rationale leads to your civilian read no him.

I have inferred he is civ from information of sorts, and I won't expand on it, I'm sorry. If people don't trust me enough to follow me on that, I'll have to be ok with it, but I'm keeping those cards close. Like I said previously though, I'm not a player with a cop item, it's different than that.
I blocked you.
If he was blocked wouldn't he not get a result at all? Maybe your block was blocked.

Fuck these quote tags

Ok then, I agree with timmer even if he didn't do anything. It just took his pointing out of something for me to realize it.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:47 pm Nutella - Pretty consistently townreading and supporting Owner, which seems almost too blatant if they're teammates. Then again it isn't entirely out of the realm of possibility that Owner was more forthcoming with her IRL situation in a BTSC chat and nutella, being a good person, felt bad enough to support and defend Owner in the thread. Buddy-posted speed N1 before Speed got clipped. This post is Vague Bandwagon Jump On Post 101. "Pretty convinced" by a case that hinges on one post. Meh. Ends up voting for Mac, another easy blendy choice. Town reads Timmer after building a big ol' post about how bad timmer is.

The Bullzeye thing wasn't just based on one post.
I don't know anything about owner's personal life.
I townread timmer and Bullzeye now for reasons.
How is Mac an easy blendy choice if nobody else except quin seems interested in pursuing him

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:49 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:48 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:45 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:43 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:41 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:41 pm I don't want this to look like a "no u" but I am keeping my eye on DH
Who cares what it looks like? What is your current read on DharmaHelper, go.
Okay, give me a minute.
That's not how this works. Take a stance immediately.
Oh, I thought you were requesting a full-fledged analysis. Current GTH read is that DH is scum.
"I don't want this to sound like a No-U but DH is scum because he suspects me."

Yeah she's fumbling. But in my experience scum Luna is together and calculating and cool. Scum Luna doesn't fumble.

DH what do you think about the fact that you just described MacDougall as not giving a fuck? You've played with Mac before, does the perceived lack of fucks concern you at all?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:55 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:51 pm Yeah she's fumbling. But in my experience scum Luna is together and calculating and cool. Scum Luna doesn't fumble.
Can you remember an example?

Uh IDR if it was upick I'm thinking of and maybe MegaMan too?there are a few games in which I've caught her as bad and I'm not seeing similar behavior here

timmer wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:15 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:11 pm I looked over Luna's posts in U-Pick and Mega Man (mafia in both). It's difficult to identify any tonal differences with this game. In terms of content, I do observe that in her mafia performances she was inclined toward individualized player analysis, in the forms of large quote compilations, ISOs, or thorough reads lists, in a way that isn't quite as visible here. Her hunting activity is more reactive and less self-constructed.
Luna is definitely reactionary right now. It reminds me of my earlier mafia career where I would freak out once I realized that I was being eyed. But she seems to be flailing with no idea of an overarching goal. Vote bullz. Don't vote bullz. But vote bullz. But maybe Kara. But no bullz... it's dizzying.

Exactly. When she's mafia she does have overarching goals.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:53 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:39 pmOther folks I'd be down to lynching: Glorf, Owner, and maaaaaybe JJJ. Need to read up on all of three of them before I decisively side against them.
Prototypical player salad. Y'all want a definition? This is the definition, or at least of the manner of salad that has most frequently caught bad guys in my experience. Put it in the encyclopedia.

"I would be willing to lynch X, Y, Z, or maaaaaaybe W" is literally how I have described player salad in the past.

Reeaal. Also he ignored my (+your) testimony that Luna's behavior is not indicative of a mafia alignment.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:07 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:47 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:51 pm Without looking, gimme an over/under on Mac's current post count: 20
Under.
46.

I would estimate that fewer than two-thirds of them are actual gameplay.

Hey juliets are you Kyle's teammate

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:14 pm ugh i dropped my sushi on the floor so i'm gonna have to pick up food on the way to work and vote from the break room

At least tell me some lucky cat got the floor sushi

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:16 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:03 am GTH babey

ColinIsCool - town
DharmaHelper - town
insertnamehere - town
JaggedJimmyJay - town
Kylemii - scum
Bullzeye - town
Epignosis - town
Glorfindel - town
Owner of a Lonely Heart - town
poutanko - town
Soneji - scum
juliets - scum
Long Con - town
Lunalee - scum
MacDougall - scum
Quin - town
Jackofhearts2005 - town
karavalenge - scum
lapluie - town
timmer - town
I was surprised to see this nutella as I don't remember you saying anything bad about me prior to this (I haven't ISO'd you so maybe I missed something). Can you tell me what you are seeing that makes you think I am bad?

Nah maybe later

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:18 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:15 pm Hey juliets are you Kyle's teammate
How funny, I was just responding to one of your posts. I don't know whether Kyle is bad or civ. I don't currently suspect him though. What makes you ask?

Just asking cause I think you are.

Jay just for a fun exercise why don't you find some counterexamples as well since I've almost certainly done the same type of salad thing as a civ and probably other people have too.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:43 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:37 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:08 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:49 pm Imma fight Jimmy for lying or being wrong on Luna and Nutella.
what, Jack. WHAT.
Luna is town and Nutella is scum. That’s what.
What do you see about Nutella that makes you think she is scum. Someone brought up earlier that she has been very bold this game which seems more likely civ.
I mean nutella did agree with two of my posts early on which I found really strange. Town nutella always suspects me.

Town nutella always suspects you when you are bad*

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:57 pm Who buys INH as a civilian?

I am still undecided, was leaning civ on him but I liked your salad call-out (but again that's kinda why I asked about civs salading because I don't think it's a slam dunk)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:10 pm @nutella, Jack thinks you're bad. Talk about it.

He's wrong.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:24 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:20 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:10 pm nutella, Jack thinks you're bad. Talk about it.
He's wrong.
So he's a civilian?

GTH sure, I'm pretty neutral on him though.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:57 pm A fond EOD letter from JaggedJimmyJay to you,

Hello, dear friend. It would appear that you and I are once again engaged in Mafia combat (or perhaps this is the first time? Well met!) As the game is played, so must we turn hateful eyes against one another, and lose our humanity in a mindless bloodbath all for the sake of brief psychological stimulation. Please, friend, understand that no matter how cruel I sound, or how arrogant my words, or how distant my emotion -- I love you. I have since the start. The world has funneled us into this bizarre electronic communication arena wherein we may exercise our like passions in concert. It is a beautiful opportunity, and I am forever grateful to share it with you.

Go to bed dude

Jay's getting loopy quick let's all vote for him

Welp. Rip s. Welcome s and s.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:08 pm Sloonei is mafia

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:12 pm every time i go on this website I get a big red triangle icon in the upper left corner with an exclamation mark, is this website viruses now

I've noticed this too, maybe cause it's not https? I mean I dont post my credit card number on here or anything but idk a lot about cybersecurity lol
[mention]SokothQultuq[/mention] ?

So who was last to vote Soneji? [mention]juliets[/mention] ? Did ya get a hallow?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:59 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:34 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:21 pm So who was last to vote Soneji? @juliets ? Did ya get a hallow?
I didn't but was I the last one to vote?
why would you ask this nutella? If juliets did get a hallow and tell you, she would become a target. The mafia could kill her to get the hallow.

Well that didn't occur to me because I'm not mafia, sorry

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:00 pm For the remainder of the game:

ColinIsCool = Cornelius
DharmaHelper = Dennis
insertnamehere = Isaiah
Kylemii = Kevin

Bullzeye = Bucky
Epignosis = Earnest
Glorfindel = Georgio
Sloonei = Stanley
poutanko = Penelope

juliets = Janet
Long Con = Lorenzo
Lunalee = Lisa
MacDougall = Mark
nutella = Nancy
Quin = Qasim

Jackofhearts2005 = Jordan
karavalenge = Karen
sprityo = Sid
timmer = Theodore

Ugh Nancy is like the ugliest name evverrrr. What about Nora

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:13 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:10 pm Wait... Juliets isn't named Juliet!?
um...no
But I named my daughter after you!?

Lmao

I wonder if I am the only one on the site who knows what her real name is (though she did just narrow it down for everyone lol)

also sprityo's is there too, confusing

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:17 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:14 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:00 pm For the remainder of the game:

ColinIsCool = Cornelius
DharmaHelper = Dennis
insertnamehere = Isaiah
Kylemii = Kevin

Bullzeye = Bucky
Epignosis = Earnest
Glorfindel = Georgio
Sloonei = Stanley
poutanko = Penelope

juliets = Janet
Long Con = Lorenzo
Lunalee = Lisa
MacDougall = Mark
nutella = Nancy
Quin = Qasim

Jackofhearts2005 = Jordan
karavalenge = Karen
sprityo = Sid
timmer = Theodore
Ugh Nancy is like the ugliest name evverrrr. What about Nora
He called me Mark.

Mark.

Also I still don't know kara's gender, I think a lot of people are thinking kara like the generally feminine name but Speed and Luna know them and I think have said he?

So anyway Jameel why are you doing this name thing

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 2 Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:26 amkevin

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:26 amkevin

Oh wow I was wrong about all three of those people. RIP juliets and kyle, bye baddie inh!

[VOTE: jigglyjameeljafar] aubergine

he's most likely inh teammate fight me

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:39 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:00 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:39 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:15 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:11 pm I looked over Luna's posts in U-Pick and Mega Man (mafia in both). It's difficult to identify any tonal differences with this game. In terms of content, I do observe that in her mafia performances she was inclined toward individualized player analysis, in the forms of large quote compilations, ISOs, or thorough reads lists, in a way that isn't quite as visible here. Her hunting activity is more reactive and less self-constructed.
Luna is definitely reactionary right now. It reminds me of my earlier mafia career where I would freak out once I realized that I was being eyed. But she seems to be flailing with no idea of an overarching goal. Vote bullz. Don't vote bullz. But vote bullz. But maybe Kara. But no bullz... it's dizzying.
This. Her 3 targets that she's focused on, Bullz, Kara, and me, have all been easy suspicions to come by, and mostly feel like her hopping onto easy suspects already mentioned by others. She criticized me for having too few/weak reads, and only providing "commentary" to the thread, while she herself has been guilty of all of that.

I always read willful hypocrisy as a scumtell. Other folks I'd be down to lynching: Glorf, Owner, and maaaaaybe JJJ. Need to read up on all of three of them before I decisively side against them.

[VOTE: lunalee] aubergine
I'd put Owner and Lunalee in the evil box. And maaaaaybe JJJ.
If Lunalee is bad with INH, I don't expect any of those three to be scum too except maybe Jimmy. That's INH saying "Imma distance but these are options I could switch to so I don't have to bus." You could argue he's not serious about Jimmy so just Glor and Owner are townies from this.

That said I townread Luna* so I tend to think it's actually one of Owner, Glorf and Jay that's teamed with INH. If INH is serious about this vote, the other folks bit would include some distancing.

*I do need to reread Sonjei's case on her knowing that it's something he actually believed.

Regardless, there's no more than one wolf in Luna/Glor/Owner.

me trying to figure out (a) this post on the surface and (b) whether Jack is scum and if so which of the people mentioned are his teammate(s)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:17 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:31 pm [VOTE: jigglyjameeljafar] aubergine

he's most likely inh teammate fight me

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 1:37 am
Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 1:04 am
nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 1:00 am Switched to [VOTE: jaggedjimmyjay] aubergine for now
I agree with that. I don't believe the first inning as lucky.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine
You’re right, it wasn’t lucky. It was greatness.

[VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine
#greatness

dis man eeble

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:37 pm Cornelius and Isaiah

Things INH said to/about Colin:

nil

Things Colin said/to about INH:

Spoiler: show
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:06 pm I can’t remember who said it (Quin?) but on my drive home I couldn’t escape the post where someone said Jay looked like he was doing Jay things, but it felt fake and insincere. It was in reference to the juliets brouhaha. I can try and quote it later, but I’m putting my vote there today.

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:58 pm Ok, this is the post:

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:06 pm Alright, I'm now caught up.

Most of the Day so far has just been two different squabbles over semantics. The whole Epi-Juliets thing has been more or less baffling in its scattershot legitimacy. It's the kind of thing that JJJ usually pushes, except with less actual substance, which makes me a tad sus of JJJ. Then there's the whole Owner/DH thing. It definitely feels like Owner is stuck replaying Firefly, while the rest of us are playing a new game. This regression could be scummy or not, depends on what else Owner decides to bring to the table. So far, I ain't impressed.

Colin cited INH to justify voting for me on Day 1. It was a rather crap point to piggyback on, though I grant my bias in the matter.

Colin calls INH good in a four-tiered D1 reads list. I'm not sure what INH had done to this point to earn that posture.

Spoiler: show
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:05 pm I have a hard time reading INH. His town and scum games are remarkably similar and I could see him being either at this point. So don’t ask me.

Fart

~~~

Conclusion

There's very little to discuss. This does nothing to make Colin look better. I doesn't make him look substantially worse. It's very meh.

I kinda want a math lady emoji

poutanko wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:54 pm Is INH the type to bus his teammate early? He went after Owner D1 and Luna D2 (voted them) and his tone against them was pretty strong. If he put his team mate(s) on his salad list, it's prob not those 2 judging from his push on them

@nutella you said you're okay with Soneji lynch but then didn't join. What changed your mind?

I liked Jay's case initially but wasn't inspired to vote there and his last big post looked town to me.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:57 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:42 pm Trust in the salad.
I prefer to study the dressing.

Gimme dem anchovies.

poutanko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:59 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:03 am GTH babey

ColinIsCool - town
DharmaHelper - town
insertnamehere - town
JaggedJimmyJay - town
Kylemii - scum
Bullzeye - town
Epignosis - town
Glorfindel - town
Owner of a Lonely Heart - town
poutanko - town
Soneji - scum
juliets - scum
Long Con - town
Lunalee - scum
MacDougall - scum
Quin - town
Jackofhearts2005 - town
karavalenge - scum
lapluie - town
timmer - town
>why did you read Jay as Town then scum this DP?
>do you still has same read on MacD? You voted him last DP.
>what made you read lapluie as Town?

I've gone back and forth on Jay a lot.
I still scumread Mac.
I thought that your point about lap posting D0 and not D1 was a small but nonzero point in her favor.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:05 am RIP Civs, and great job vig again! Or alternate vig?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:39 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:31 pm [VOTE: jigglyjameeljafar] aubergine

he's most likely inh teammate fight me
Why?
Day 1, Jay built a case against INH and voted for him.
Jay calls INH out for his player salad, which included Jay
There are multiple other interactions of Jay quoting INH and calling him bad.
So I don't see it.
@nutella you going to respond? This JJJ vote of yours is spicy and fun, but could use some savoury goodness. Here's the opportunity to try out your new recipe.

Tbh it was mostly inspired by the "maaaayybe Jay" in INH's salad post, combined with INH's overall progression on Jay. For a while in his iso it looks like Jay is maybe his top suspect but he drops down to that "maaaayyybe" without much explanation.

So it's sort of a hunch stemming from that, I'm still sorting out whether I think that on the other side of the coin Jay would be likely to have gone after a teammate in the way he went after INH. I was looking for a past game example of Jay bussing, but his only scum game I could remember was the Phenon Origins sock game and that was a weird one where roles weren't revealed and I couldn't quite draw a comparison (also I don't even really remember how it went down, you were the sacrifice right? maybe you could help) so anyway the jury's still kinda out on that

timmer wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:07 am I've begun staring at the polls for awhile now, slightly drunk on port...

The deathly Hallows cannot be transferred, it says.

Do you think a baddie could have started with a hallow?

wait what do you mean where does it say the deathly hallows cannot be transferred? not sure what you're referring to?
also, sure I'd think it's possible, why not?

timmer wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:12 am Also, what is w/w?

wolf/wolf aka scum teammates, if I say I don't think some two people are likely to be w/w it means I don't think they're bad together

Oh I see in the rules where it says they can't be transferred to another player, only gained through death. misunderstood what you were saying there. Not really sure what point you're trying to make though.

timmer wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:40 am I'm a bit lit.

I'm hot liking long con

In all seriousness though, lit!timmer might have a point. Even regardless of owner's alignment I could read LC as bad. Looking at his ISO I'ma just pull out the top 3 most suspicious posts at face value:

here
and here
are two examples of eager-as-a-puppy hopping onto other people's potential easy reasons to go after someone

and this
could be what some like to call the "caught for the wrong reasons" tell

ok that was a fun exercise but from looking through his ISO I think he has more posts that leave me with town feelings than posts that don't

what might merit deeper analysis is his d2 case against Luna that he seemed pretty confident in a while but he eventually switched to INH, and that could be teammate compatible since I think he'd have reason to be confident that an INH lynch wasn't going to take flight by that point

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