The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:32 pm Secret lynches are pro scum.

Not if we use them correctly.

Pop quiz!

Jack is mafia. Who can tell me why?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:44 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:40 pm Pop quiz!

Jack is mafia. Who can tell me why?
He hasn’t TR you yet?

Bingo.

Are you scum too btw?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:17 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:47 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:46 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:44 pm Actually, Nanook, would you go for MR for self-preservation purposes?
Obviously I’ll go anyone for self prez if it comes to it lol
Okay, cool. I'll settle for MR then.
[VOTE: Master Radish] aubergine

DDL, welcome to my towncore. You're taking MR's spot.
Uh ohhhhh

Nutella no likey

Im high btw

This was a huge moment, and not just because I was high lol. This was an awful look on Hyena, and made me think I had misplaced my trust in him. I think it's possible he's teammates with Nanook and was looking for a reason to justify joining the MR train to save his teammate. Why did he suddenly decide to trust DDL of all people? It made no sense. Hyena explain yourself.

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:41 pm [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine
I feel disgusting doing this, lol.

This is right before the above quotes. Would be say this about a scum buddy? Idk *wifom emoji* maybe he has tmi on town!nanook instead. Maybe DDL is his partner, though that would also be a weird interaction. I just get bad feelings about Hyena from those few posts, independently of nanook's alignment. He could have known MR and Nanook would both flip town. There are various possible interpretations but mostly Hyena looks icky around that part of the phase.

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:02 pm Speedchuck, talk to me about DDL. If you can convince me that DDL's town, I might be open to considering MR as an option, too.

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] this is the last thing he said about DDL before welcoming him into his towncore. I haven't looked at what speed or DDL posted in between those, but regardless I don't know how you could call that well-developed.

Lol yeah speed wasn't convincing and ddl hardly said anything relevant, Hyena just decided to townread him somewhere in there without explaining why.

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:44 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:44 pm Actually, Nanook, would you go for MR for self-preservation purposes?
I like the people on MR way more than I do the other wagons.

It really makes no sense.

He was scum and survived to the end (fooling juliets and securing scum victory)

Yeah those responses aren't helping your case Hy-Hy.

JAAAAAAAAACK. Who caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaares. You haven't played this damn gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:52 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:26 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:10 pm I’m willing to take the «Jack is scum because he hasn’t diagnosed Nutella yet» argument pretty seriously.
Does this still apply if nutella is red?
Yes. I don’t remember the last time town Jack hasn’t had something to say about Nutella early on, though maybe he didn’t in the ballgame game cause I think he got lynched. Now he’s avoiding the subject. I don’t want to create a meta by which Jack has to do X Y and Z to be town read, but I think it’s at least an engageable point.

He did in fact confidently and mistakenly call me town in that game after reading like an eighth of the game lol.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:14 pm
112 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:30 am MR is locktown by the way. Seal it.
Since I’m back to reading early posts this is a weird one. I would characterize Radishes as “fine” and “somewhat relatable” at that point, not “locktown.”

Was this explained better later?

Just keep reading man lmao

Anyway if I die I think the lynch(es) should be in {Hyena, Jack, 112, Nanook, DDL}

Riveting commentary.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:27 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:25 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:51 pm Moving off a joke long con vote, I’d like to kill the lurker

If tony is not town I’m guessing he’s 3p rather than mafia, so I’m not super interested there tbh
Mehmehmehmeh
I'm always perplexed at how the "he's probably 3p" opinion is formed. I don't really have that category in my basic judgments, especially this early, with no 3p role necessarily present.

I believe he explained it and it was related to the flavor-alignment stuff.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:29 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:27 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:25 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:51 pm Moving off a joke long con vote, I’d like to kill the lurker

If tony is not town I’m guessing he’s 3p rather than mafia, so I’m not super interested there tbh
Mehmehmehmeh
I'm always perplexed at how the "he's probably 3p" opinion is formed. I don't really have that category in my basic judgments, especially this early, with no 3p role necessarily present.
I’m more concerned he gave up on actual hunting midway through D1.

D1 hunting is not the way of the nanook

But do you actually think Tony is 3p, or more likely just town? Bc you said that if he's not town he's 3p not mafia, but does that really just mean you think he's not mafia

And I disagree [mention]Long Con[/mention] because if you actually look at his reasoning it's more of an attitude thing, like "scum wouldn't dare raise this contrary idea" so it's a specific reason to think he's not mafia.

I think this is a silly topic anyway I think Tony is probably just town lol.

Yeah, that's what I thought. I think LC wasn't noticing how important the conditional part of the sentence was lol.

More like when you add an hour buffer after the action deadline to get the post in on time and then it's still an hour late

RIP 112. Too bad the btsc never got to happen.

Sloonei, finally.

Oh looks like someone has a news reporter role. They suspect Tony and.... Hyena?

Let's get the ball rolling with a [VOTE: hyena] aubergine

Jack just doesn't even know how to deal with me anymore lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:25 pm 2 of my 3 scumreads were wrong, you know what that means.

IM DUE BABAY, VOTE NUTELLA BYE SCUM

Grats on the baby fam but u bad

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:25 pm
Secret votes are non-changeable. Once we have them, that's it.

Oh that's good to know. We gotta hash this out carefully then.

Today I am never lynching:
Long Con
speedchuck
Master Radishes
M Plus 7
TonyStarkPrime

I could lynch:
DrWilgy
PoiSloon
juliets
DDL

I want to lynch:
Hyena
Jack
Nanook

actually though? are you serious or not bc i have no idea

and if so do you actually suspect juliets of censoring you lmfao

if you are being serious about the first thing I would guess that the mafia have a role stealing ability but if they stole the reporter power they probably wouldn't have gotten to see what the actual reporter wrote, just wrote their own independently? probably

hi epignosis you have no power over my adverbs in this game

Yeah well that makes the self confirming thing make sense tbh so I gueeesssss I believe you. Begrudgingly. Huurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Did the replacement take effect after the night phase? I.e. if poisloon's role had a night action was it missed

Tfw sloonei takes noketchup so seriously he doesn't even read the host posts smh

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:08 am I could certainly lynch LC. Feels like scum LC coasting.

There are good reasons to townread LC for similar reasons as Tony and arguably even stronger.

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:30 am
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:31 pm Today I am never lynching:
Long Con
speedchuck
Master Radishes
M Plus 7
TonyStarkPrime

I could lynch:
DrWilgy
PoiSloon
juliets
DDL

I want to lynch:
Hyena
Jack
Nanook
Tony being in your 'never lynch' pile is yuck, but your 'want to lynch' pile (aside from me of course) isn't actually that bad. I don't care about Jack's reporter role. I don't like them using it as a crutch to get townread. I gave Nanook a D1 pass because I wanted to play with him, but I'm okay with lynching him today.

That list was before Jack's role claim; I'm no longer interested in lynching him. Would happily go nanook, though it's starting to feel like I can only be right about one of you and there's more pushing on Nanook going on. So I'm sticking with voting you for now.

Like, sure, Jack's role could be scum after all but I'm not too worried about that right now and also he's gotten more involved and sounds a bit better. So he's no longer a priority.

Hot take Sloonei replaced into a scum slot

Hot take pt 2 he's teamed with nanook

I should figure out how much I really think hyena and nanook are opposed, especially because I started off thinking they were specifically compatible. Idk the amount of "sure let's lynch nanook" in the thread rn is giving me some jeebies.

Also don't think MP is actually that deserving of a place in my trust pile. He's far below MR/speed etc in that regard and should probably be in the middle tier

Revised

Never lynching:
(These people are never ever scum here)
speedchuck
Master Radishes
---
(Okay I could admit it's possible I'm wrong about these)
Long Con
Tony

I could be convinced to lynch:
(Less likely)
M Plus 7
Jack
---
(More likely, roughly from least to most)
juliets
DDL
DrWilgy
PoiSloon

I actively want to lynch:
Hyena
Nanook

Juliets and DDL have similar problems. They haven't stood out or made any impact. I don't like that.

The more I think about it the worse I feel about juliets. She has shown the bare bones of her meta without any of the meat. Her most content-ful post was a lengthy justification of her sig vote after sig had flipped. Not great.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:28 pm @nutella can you tell me why you're so convinced about Tony? Or point me to where you explained it, if I've just missed it?

When he countered the idea that alex jones would necessarily be anti-town. Suggested to me that he has a town role that isn't obviously flavorfully "good" and definitely seemed like something scum would never say there in any situation.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:43 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:08 am juliets' big moment of scumhunting this game was justifying her vote on Sig after Sig flipped.

I know it's juliets and she doesn't reallly... hunt. But I'm not sure how else we are supposed read her, assuming we can even read her.
Early game just isn't my thing. I hope that I'm better today.

DDL already called out the sig thing and she handwaved it without responding to the point.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:05 am Feeling a bit better on MR, since the "In Depth Analysis on OMG Why You People Suck" he spent the night making feels more like something a civ would do than a baddie. He seems to be taking it personally. Though to be fair it does seem he'd make that effort even if he was not one of the people being lynched, so whatever.

Not sure where this nutella wagon even came from, it's very sudden.

I'm not super strong on the Hyena case bu I agree him following me on my placeholder poison lynch is bad. Could vote.

What? I don't really care about the poison vote anymore. Hyena following you on the MR vote was bad. Talk to me about that?

It's not *only* that there were a couple other role/flavor related things he said that contributed. But yeah I could be wrong I guess.

[mention]juliets[/mention] I said what the point was. Please read my posts.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:48 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:56 am
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:25 pm 2 of my 3 scumreads were wrong, you know what that means.

IM DUE BABAY, VOTE NUTELLA BYE SCUM
Grats on the baby fam but u bad
I read these two as w/w for the past two pages.
What a shock.

Remind me why you’re reading me wolf again, is it the same garbage reason you started with or you have found a new reason to tunnel?

Yikes

You obviously know speedchuck is town and are being aggressive without reason.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:49 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:21 pm Never lynching:
Master Radishes
Explain

I locked him town D1 due to mindmelds and his thought processes/approach to solving. That doesn't sound very substantial when I put it that way but it is extremely substantial to me (maybe I'm forgetting a detail that sealed it for me, I'll look back in a bit). Then there's the role claim today which seals it even more imo (some may disagree with that but it's how I see it)

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:52 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:07 am Wouldn't mind killing Nanook tbh.

He feels A LITTLE more scumhunting than last game, but the idea of letting Nanook fool me two consecutive times seriously irks me.

I already know the man can fake emotion like a top tier mafia player. I'm not giving him a civ read for cheap.
“I’m SRing him cause I don’t want to look silly” is a legitimately terrible way to play.

Is it a terrible way to play, or is he scum??

Your only criticisms of anyone are that they are wrongtown. Do you *suspect* anyone or no??

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:52 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:50 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:48 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:56 am
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:25 pm 2 of my 3 scumreads were wrong, you know what that means.

IM DUE BABAY, VOTE NUTELLA BYE SCUM
Grats on the baby fam but u bad
I read these two as w/w for the past two pages.
What a shock.

Remind me why you’re reading me wolf again, is it the same garbage reason you started with or you have found a new reason to tunnel?
Yikes

You obviously know speedchuck is town and are being aggressive without reason.
I almost always assume that someone is town when talking to them. Otherwise why would I bother talking to them.

Nah this ain't it chief.

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

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