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by nutella
Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:37 pm
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Topic: Hogwarts Mafia - END
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

speedchuck wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:20 pm
nutella wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:13 pm
speedchuck wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:10 pm
nutella wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:41 pm Jesus every single post on this page looks suspicious as fuck. Good on y'all for getting me to stop townreading everyone.
Every time I think "actually, she's probably town" you just come in brazenly and say something that is so bogus I can't see it as genuine. This has happened like five times since the beginning of the thread.
How is it bogus? Did you read that page? I was pinged by so many different things there. Making dinner rn but I can compile a list in a bit.
Please do.
Coming up
by nutella
Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:59 pm
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Topic: Hogwarts Mafia - END
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

PAGE 43: Was it cursed? Did everybody go crazy? Or is it just me?
An Anthology
by nutella


We begin with a continuation from page 42 of a bizarre exchange between Mr. Jimmyjay and Mr. Dougall.
MacDougall wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:26 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:23 pm No, I didn't fuck up.

Notwithstanding that I never fuck up when I am Mafia. It's only when I am Mafia that I actually do meticulously proof my posts before I read them, and I never let myself angry post when I am Mafia. Not legitimately.
Every time I tell you I think scumslips are stupid, you tell me about how often you scumslip.
Well I don't know what to say. You've hounded civilian Mac into a situation where you've caught me out in a lie. Kudos, only you could accomplish such feats.
As we like to say in the profession, "I don't know what this is."


Then follows this delightfully inexplicable gem:
MacDougall wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:42 pm

I have two different perspectives on this game that adjust my train of thought somewhat:

1. The scum team has Jay and/or nutella on it
2. The scum team does not

If I can figure out the truth of which of these is accurate it will go along way to me solving the game.
Why I am lumped in with Mr. Jimmyjay into a single "and/or" scenario is beyond the comprehension of even our most diligent scholars.

Next, we part ways with Mr. Dougall to encounter one of those stunning posts you occasionally have the fortune of seeing in the wild: the species of post that says absolutely nothing at all in more than fifty words.
timmer wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:47 pm Skimming through to catch up... Mac's focus on the chance that we are not in fact down two dead baddies is interesting, to say the least, but I'm not sure where to go with it . I'll admit I'm at a loss in the game right now... my suspicions have flopped, my thoughts on lc last night make no sense to me now, I'm going to watch the pats/packers game and then regroup later tonight.
Mr. Dougall is the first to call this out, and despite his earlier gaffes is starting to look like one of the saner people in the room. However, I do not believe his comparison to Mr. Finko's "Hitler" tell completely checks out. There's no canceling out of opinions because there are no opinions to begin with. It is purely neutral from start to finish.

Scrolling down.
Quin wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:03 pm This was one of my favourite recent posts. Russ absolutely nailed someone with this.
Russtifinko wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:39 pm
1. MP will remember that in high school English class, Mr. Goldfuss once told us about an analysis that was done on Hitler's speeches. A univeristy group had apparently analyzed a large number of them line by line and found that nearly every one had a net "opinion content" (I'm paraphrasing here) of 0. What they meant was, every time Hitler expressed an opinion in a speech, he offset it by saying the opposite thing with about the same intensity somewhere else in the speech. This made him very appealing, because everyone in a crowd could find something to agree with him about. (Mr. Goldfuss was weird, and recommended we try to follow this model for some speeches.) Mr. Goldfuss also lied a lot, and it's possible he made up that story entirely, but the core of it applies really well to some posts by Alien. Let's play a game: I'll post an Alien quote, highlight anything where he expresses a positive opinion in green, and highlight anything with a negative opinion in red. I think we'll find quite a few offsetting posts.
I caught scum Fredwood this way in Phenon.
This post barely merits existing.

Then, my friends, the fun really begins.
ColinIsCool wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:32 pm I’ll reiterate, to anybody who wants to lynch me ... go ahead. Just give me that Phoenix right afterward.
This is real spicy coming from the lad who just speculated that there are either no rezzes left in the hands of active living players or that they are in the hands of the mafia. Perhaps he knows that his teammates will save him.

Quin responds reasonably to this. Then:
Long Con wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:07 pm Maybe he wants the perks that come with being a Confirmed Civ. He could reasonably expect protection from kills. I don't know, it's pretty weird. I'm sure the Phoenix Down owner has a plan, no need to "lynch a Civ" to get a good target. Maybe he's a baddie with the ability to appear Civ upon their lynch. Get lynched - look Civ - use up rez - PROFIT!!!
Mr. Con speaks bluntly here, simultaneously making Mr. Cool look villainous and deterring his lynch by implying that it's what the mafia want. A subtle scare tactic? Who can say?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:16 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:08 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:32 pm MacDougall, find the bad people and the good people.
INH interacts very little with scum teammates. It's his meta. He is not someone that dances around with wifom distancing tricks from what I have ever seen.

Who did he interact with exactly zero times?
Exactly zero
Colin
poutanko

Functionally zero if not literally
Bullzeye/speedchuck
MacDougall
Quin
So why is my interaction with him functionally zero and not Jack's which is almost identical in that it was a one emoji reply to a sarcastic insult? Like Jack and my interactions with INH were legitimately as identical as it can get without being literally identical.
Yeah him too.
Oh and then what do we have here? Mr. Jimmyjay conveniently forgets to include Mr. Hearts on a shit list? Perhaps I should listen to my earlier hunches about those two.


So there you have it. Basically in conclusion all of you are mafia and none of you are free of sin.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:00 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Hogwarts Mafia - END
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

(okay, that was a fun exercise, and in doing it I guess there wasn't quite as much suspicious content as it felt like there was. I think my point about LC is the one most worth considering.)
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:01 am
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Topic: Hogwarts Mafia - END
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:47 pm
nutella wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:37 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:15 pm
nutella wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:14 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:12 pm nutella, do you have any degree of suspicion of timmer?
Yes. The main factor that had been giving me pause in suspecting him was his thingy about Bullzeye the other day, but with how further discussion of that played out I suppose it's not a real reason to think he is town, and he looks pretty bad otherwise.
I don't understand anything about Bullzeye. What can you tell me?
Nobody has disputed the suggestion that he vigged Nova.
I don't remember this. Who said it?
Nobody said it. It was implied. But maybe the person who would deny it didn't pick up on it? :shrug:
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:02 am
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:00 am Did someone in mafia BTSC chat ask nutella if she thought Bullz vigged nova.
No, I don't have BTSC. Reread my exchange with Timmer on the topic of Bullzeye. I was trying very carefully not to explicitly say what I thought he meant, but figured it'd be safe enough to come out and say by now.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:06 am
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:02 am Implied how and why would you expect anyone to refute an unspoken implication?
Sometimes I forget that other people aren't as smart as me and don't pick up on everything the same way ;) I guess I also figured that if the person who vigged nova wasn't bullzeye they in particular might have protested the clearing of bullzeye, but who knows.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:14 am
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

Long Con wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:03 am
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:00 am (okay, that was a fun exercise, and in doing it I guess there wasn't quite as much suspicious content as it felt like there was. I think my point about LC is the one most worth considering.)
Ok, you do it. Discuss reasons why Colin might do that.
Well he could be town wanting to get confirmed, but as Quin pointed out, why? He's barely even been suspected at all until now -- and what's more, he had just pointed out his fear that rezzes were either gone or in the wrong hands. If he's town he can't count on a rez, by his own admission. He can only rely on a rez if he's bad and knows his team has one. Whether he has some way to appear civ upon flip, or whether his team will rez him as a confirmed baddie, I can't say, but there doesn't really seem to be a town explanation.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:20 am
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

Sloonei wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:07 am
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:02 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:00 am Did someone in mafia BTSC chat ask nutella if she thought Bullz vigged nova.
No, I don't have BTSC. Reread my exchange with Timmer on the topic of Bullzeye. I was trying very carefully not to explicitly say what I thought he meant, but figured it'd be safe enough to come out and say by now.
Could you elaborate on what your read of timmer is right now?
I think the balance of his posts are pretty scummy. Also, I initially thought that he had tracked Bullzeye, but he denied that his townread of Bullzeye was influenced by any of his own actions and so instead I figured he was just guessing after the nova kill that bullzeye was responsible, which says nothing about timmer's alignment except that he had no shame in coming out with his strong townread of bullzeye after suspecting him on d1 -- which, even after I figured he hadn't tracked bullzeye or anything and was just guessing, I still chalked up as civ behavior for a while, but it could very easily not be. And if I don't have that reason to townread him, he otherwise looks pretty icky. TL;DR I suspect him
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:25 am
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:11 am
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:06 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:02 am Implied how and why would you expect anyone to refute an unspoken implication?
Sometimes I forget that other people aren't as smart as me and don't pick up on everything the same way ;) I guess I also figured that if the person who vigged nova wasn't bullzeye they in particular might have protested the clearing of bullzeye, but who knows.
I thought the prevailing wisdom/case was that his nova vote was indicative of him being on nova's team. But you're saying he voted for nova and then vigged her? Or are you fishing for the actual vig, which is in itself pretty suspicioso. Mondo garbo, even.
The case for bullzeye being nova's teammate prevailed for a little while but as far as I could tell it mostly died out after timmer came out swinging in his favor, which is sort of why I assumed other people started to guess the same thing that I did. :shrug: And no, not trying to fish for the vig, I would rather not have this lead to anyone outing themself -- but, say, if a sudden compelling drive to lynch bullzeye were to appear I would not dismiss it.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:28 am
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

Long Con wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:17 am
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:14 am
Long Con wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:03 am
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:00 am (okay, that was a fun exercise, and in doing it I guess there wasn't quite as much suspicious content as it felt like there was. I think my point about LC is the one most worth considering.)
Ok, you do it. Discuss reasons why Colin might do that.
Well he could be town wanting to get confirmed, but as Quin pointed out, why? He's barely even been suspected at all until now -- and what's more, he had just pointed out his fear that rezzes were either gone or in the wrong hands. If he's town he can't count on a rez, by his own admission. He can only rely on a rez if he's bad and knows his team has one. Whether he has some way to appear civ upon flip, or whether his team will rez him as a confirmed baddie, I can't say, but there doesn't really seem to be a town explanation.
Ok, thank you. That seems remarkably similar to my own post that is your top suspected post on the Page of Sin.
No, don't think so. You didn't point out the thing I did that if he's town he can't count on a rez. Your post painted much more of a bleak picture of a baddie fooling us all with a fake flip, and so I came out of your post interpreting more of an overall thesis of "don't lynch Colin he's tricking us" whereas I am saying we should just lynch him because he's bad and if he has a fake flip we'll just have to deal.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:31 am
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

Quin wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:19 am
nutella wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:59 pm big post with long con in it
I didn't get that subtle defence or whatever from LC at all. Dunno how you interpreted it that way.
So anyway why isn't your vote on Colin? same goes for [mention]Long Con[/mention]
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:33 am
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

Long Con wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:31 am
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:25 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:11 am
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:06 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:02 am Implied how and why would you expect anyone to refute an unspoken implication?
Sometimes I forget that other people aren't as smart as me and don't pick up on everything the same way ;) I guess I also figured that if the person who vigged nova wasn't bullzeye they in particular might have protested the clearing of bullzeye, but who knows.
I thought the prevailing wisdom/case was that his nova vote was indicative of him being on nova's team. But you're saying he voted for nova and then vigged her? Or are you fishing for the actual vig, which is in itself pretty suspicioso. Mondo garbo, even.
The case for bullzeye being nova's teammate prevailed for a little while but as far as I could tell it mostly died out after timmer came out swinging in his favor, which is sort of why I assumed other people started to guess the same thing that I did. :shrug: And no, not trying to fish for the vig, I would rather not have this lead to anyone outing themself -- but, say, if a sudden compelling drive to lynch bullzeye were to appear I would not dismiss it.
I never thought of that, but I don't mind it... except that JJJ said he blocked Timmer. Is there a way he could have seen bullz vig with that in play?
That's beside the point. After Jay said he blocked Timmer, Timmer said it had nothing to do with any action or ability he used, which is why I figured it was just a guess.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:43 am
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

Here's how it went down from my perspective, one mental state at a time.

1. Bullzeye voted for nova.
2. Timmer and a few others found Bullzeye's vote extremely suspicious.
3. Nova was killed and flipped bad.
4. Some people (myself included) suspect Bullzeye even more, thinking that he placed a vote on a teammate.
5. Timmer comes out with a 180 on Bullzeye, calling him his top civ read after the events of the night but not due to a cop check.
6. I look at the list of abilities to see what might explain this that's not cop-ish per se. I notice the one that tracks which player a player targeted, and it occurs to me that perhaps Bullzeye vigged nova since he presumably suspected him, and perhaps timmer tracked Bullzeye since he suspected him, and saw that he targeted nova, and is now townclearing Bullzeye as the vig.
7. I accept this and decide to townread both bullzeye and timmer based on this interpretation.
8. The topic comes up again and Jay questions how timmer could know anything and says that he blocked timmer.
9. I say "wouldn't he not have gotten a result at all if he were blocked?"
10. That turns out to be moot as timmer admits that it was not based on anything he did at all, it was just based on something that happened (i.e. nova's death).
11. I figure that timmer had just made an educated guess that bullzeye vigged nova and decided to townclear him. Since it made so much sense to me when I was investigating back when I thought timmer actually knew something, I figured that I still believed it made sense even though it turned out timmer didn't actually know, and I continued to agree with timmer/believe that bullzeye killed nova.
12. For a while I still figured that this looked good for timmer. I no longer feel like I have much justification for that; he could easily have scum motivation for pulling his 180 on bullzeye in the way that he did.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:45 am
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

timmer wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:39 am
The only useful thing I can tell you is that there really may be something to the idea that the dead baddies aren't necessarily bad. And there may be a serial killer attached to it.
Do you have specific reasons for this speculation? :ponder:
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:50 am
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

Quin wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:39 am
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:31 am
Quin wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:19 am
nutella wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:59 pm big post with long con in it
I didn't get that subtle defence or whatever from LC at all. Dunno how you interpreted it that way.
So anyway why isn't your vote on Colin? same goes for @Long Con
because you're bad
I'm not.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:51 am
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

wait timmer what the fuck is your job :eek:
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:55 am
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

MacDougall wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:52 am And I'm gonna take that most recent Timmer post as an indie claim.
Makes about as much sense as anything can at this point.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:58 am
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

Take note everybody, LC likes to send his finger to malodorous locations
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:53 am
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

timmer wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:27 am So Mac, what I'm telling you is that there was no vig kill night 1. So who killed a bad nova? That's my issue. Both nights, multiple kills. Both nights, dead baddies. But NOT both nights vig killa so who killed them. And if it is someone unknown is it just weird odds that their kills were bad?
why can't the answer just be that there are two people with odd-night blast-ended skrewts? :keys: seems a little odd for balance purposes, but there are a lot of funky role manipulation possibilities in this setup so :shrug:
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:02 am
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:58 am Any number of blocks, redirects, delays, etc could account for the kill fuckery.
I mean... those can't increase the number of kills...
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:05 am
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

yeah the 3 deaths n2 was really a lot. I guess it can't really be that there are 4 civs with skrewts (2 odd 2 even) because that would be crazy unbalanced, but that doesn't necessarily mean there's an SK either -- maybe a mafia member or two has a skrewt so there's actually an extra mafia kill (and if I read the rules correctly the skrewt turns into a super-kill when held by mafia, but those can still be redirected)
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:06 am
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:04 am
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:02 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:58 am Any number of blocks, redirects, delays, etc could account for the kill fuckery.
I mean... those can't increase the number of kills...
Hm? How do you take my comment with respect to the number of kills? The 3 kills N2 would look to me to be the max, if Timmer's Skrewt got Skrewed N1?
well, per night since creatures alternate nights, yeah I guess the per-night max as 3 makes sense. still seems like a lot
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:49 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

speedchuck wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:50 am @nutella Have you had a scum game more recent than Fire Emblem?
@Glorfindel I'd like to see a scum game of yours. Don't really care who points me to it.

Currently leaning more town on Nutella than before, based on the past few pages of content.
No I'm pretty sure that was the last one.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:49 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

ColinIsCool wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:07 am
Long Con wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:07 pm Maybe he wants the perks that come with being a Confirmed Civ. He could reasonably expect protection from kills. I don't know, it's pretty weird. I'm sure the Phoenix Down owner has a plan, no need to "lynch a Civ" to get a good target. Maybe he's a baddie with the ability to appear Civ upon their lynch. Get lynched - look Civ - use up rez - PROFIT!!!
Bingo. If I die then you know I’m a civ and if I come back, that’s good. Is this hard to understand?
Did you... did you misread LC's post? O.o
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:52 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

ColinIsCool wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:08 am
I made these posts after INH died. Learn to read
I knew this and thought it was clear when Jay said "beginning of this day phase" and I was pretty confused when Mac said it was distancing/bussing.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:56 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

ColinIsCool wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:13 am
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:14 am
Long Con wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:03 am
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:00 am (okay, that was a fun exercise, and in doing it I guess there wasn't quite as much suspicious content as it felt like there was. I think my point about LC is the one most worth considering.)
Ok, you do it. Discuss reasons why Colin might do that.
Well he could be town wanting to get confirmed, but as Quin pointed out, why? He's barely even been suspected at all until now -- and what's more, he had just pointed out his fear that rezzes were either gone or in the wrong hands. If he's town he can't count on a rez, by his own admission. He can only rely on a rez if he's bad and knows his team has one. Whether he has some way to appear civ upon flip, or whether his team will rez him as a confirmed baddie, I can't say, but there doesn't really seem to be a town explanation.
I think nutella is town from this fwiw. Total shades of Easter talking herself into every possible combination of goodness and badness in everything.
Ok cool but is that all? You're not gonna defend the point that you can't count on a rez so it doesn't make sense to waste a lynch, unless you're bad?

Not to mention you drew a comparison to Easter in which you were super evil. Idk if this is any kind of reliable tell but I feel like players are subconsciously or not more likely to be thinking about games in which their alignment matched the current one.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:57 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

speedchuck wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:23 am
timmer wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:30 am And ultimately I now have to ask... speedchuck 2.0, since you are bullz do you have anything that needs to be added to this info mess I have caused?
Looks like you cleared it all up already. I'm still catching up this morning. Bullz didn't redirect or kill anyone.
The plot thickens
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:57 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia

speedchuck wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:34 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:42 pm - This is not a bastard game, so I will not lie to you. However, it is possible for abilities that obtain information to be fooled.
Screw all of last night's foolishness you dillweeds.

INH was scum. Nova was scum. DDL does not lie to us publicly, as said above. These were reveals, not cop checks or ability related info.

10 points to Hufflepuff.
Agreed
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:03 pm
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Long Con wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:48 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:33 pm If I am going to get lynched by the dumbest wagon ever in my time of playing Mafia then at least please answer this q before I go join my great friend Turbup Head in the, uhh, Mirror of Erised? I don’t fucking know you tell me.
ColinIsCool wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:47 pm Hypothetically assuming I used a Niffler, is it pro-town to share the results? Please weigh in on this and thank you.
I don't see the town benefit of publicizing Deathly Hallows locations. If anything, you'd mark that House for death.

But that's whatever.

So you asked to be lynched... and now that the votes are coming to you, you're getting salty about it??

LOL non please monsieur... allow me. [VOTE: Colin] aubergine We humbly await to serve your every request. :feb:
Lol :clap:

Also yeah Colin what is good about singling out a house? You gonna make us focus on a house that you know none of your teammates are in?
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:38 pm
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Topic: Hogwarts Mafia - END
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

Lunalee wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:34 pm Here's my GTH list. Throwing this out so I can start to organize my thoughts:
Owner/Sloonei - good
Epignosis - good

JaggedJimmyJay - good
JackOfHearts - good
Quin - good
Bullzeye/Speedchuck - good
Kara - good
Timmer - good
Poutanko - good

ColinIsCool - bad
Sprityo - bad
nutella - bad
MacDougal - bad
Glorf - bad
DharmaHelper - bad
And long con??
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:39 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

Sloonei wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:35 pm Mondays are terrible for me and this Monday is particularly terrible. I’ll be in class when the deadline happens and probably will hardly check in again. I don’t feel inclined to lynch colin. I’ve seen some talk about mac but I haven’t actually looked into it myself. I like my vote on timmed and it’ll stay there for now. I doubt it gets changed before the deadline.
You have missed some developments in the timmer department my friend.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:23 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

Long Con wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:11 pm It's not because I'm bad,
So what is? :grin:
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:34 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

[VOTE: jaggedjimmyjay] aubergine
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:15 pm
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speedchuck wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:07 pm @nutella Why did you vote JJJ?
I haven't liked his behavior this phase. He's mostly gone on about lynching sprityo for not participating and only now deciding to change his tune on LC as a more present and popular suspect. This combined with my earlier criticism/skepticism of his interactive read results makes me feel fishy things about him.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:34 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

speedchuck wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:21 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:15 pm
speedchuck wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:07 pm @nutella Why did you vote JJJ?
I haven't liked his behavior this phase. He's mostly gone on about lynching sprityo for not participating and only now deciding to change his tune on LC as a more present and popular suspect. This combined with my earlier criticism/skepticism of his interactive read results makes me feel fishy things about him.
What do you think of his early INH interactions? Planned distance/bus?
Could be. I don't have strong arguments either way but I don't doubt that he's capable of that.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:21 pm
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Mmm I don't even know who I'd pick out of Colin, glorf, and LC. Lynch em all I say.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:22 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

Epignosis wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:59 pm I am only on page 44, so I'm still behind. Most of the pages are blocked here and I will be in a meeting when the poll closes, I think. I recall being impressed with Russtifinko's Hitler thing, and so I'm putting my vote on timmer. I don't hate the Colin lynch, but I see he already has five votes.
Hey don't do that, I know you have no time to read but timmer came out with some info so we are not voting for him. Move if you see this.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:26 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

[VOTE: glorf] aubergine
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:31 pm
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timmer wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:30 pm Moved my vote to long con.

[VOTE: long con] aubergine

He had supported Colin quite directly, calling his game strong, but kind of around when it seemed clear that colin would indeed be a lynch contender, lc just pulled an easy flip, and he failed to talk about it since.
So is LC being bad contingent on Colin being bad or are you just calling it scummy behavior regardless?
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:31 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

Glorfindel wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:31 pm If I get lynched today I am out of this game for good so I’m warning you in advance - reviving me will be a complete and utter waste of time so don’t bother. Just sayin’...
:ponder:
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:37 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:34 pm
speedchuck wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:31 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:31 pm
Glorfindel wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:31 pm If I get lynched today I am out of this game for good so I’m warning you in advance - reviving me will be a complete and utter waste of time so don’t bother. Just sayin’...
:ponder:
:shrug:
We know Glorf means it. If he's mafia, he would clearly return for the sake of his team.

What are you going to do about it?
I didn't know what he meant. How did you?
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:38 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

Speed braintwinning me all over the place. Cfd Jay w me?
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:40 pm
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:39 pm There's no reason for Glorf to threaten to bail on the game if he's being correctly lynched, and there's no reason for mafia Glorf to refuse resurrection.

We know Glorf doesn't fudge shit. He says what he believes in his heart.

speed and nutella are bad.
Mafia glorf would absolutely refuse resurrection. You're high.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:42 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:40 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:39 pm There's no reason for Glorf to threaten to bail on the game if he's being correctly lynched, and there's no reason for mafia Glorf to refuse resurrection.

We know Glorf doesn't fudge shit. He says what he believes in his heart.

speed and nutella are bad.
Mafia glorf would absolutely refuse resurrection. You're high.
Why the hell would he do that? It's nonsense. You're hamfisting this to justify a crap vote.
He fucking hates being mafia. How do you think he'd like being a confirmed mafia?
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:46 pm
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speedchuck wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:45 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

JJJ is probably scum. Glorf is not. JJJ knows glorf better than me. He's defending Glorf for townie points or from genuineness, not to decieve. Either way, Glorf has to be town.

JJJ and glorf are NOOOOT W/W. Impossible. I promise.
Hmmmmmmm ok maybe
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:47 pm
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We lynch Jay tomorrow or so help me Merlin.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:50 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

Lunalee wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:49 pm I can't vote. Did the poll close an hour earlier than it says?
Poll's over. Fix your timezone in ucp due to DST change.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:23 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:19 pm lol @ dese ppl calling me bad

lollllloutloud
Nutella for funniest poster socky 2018! Get out the vote :noble:
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:48 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 3

Intriguing.
by nutella
Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:51 pm
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 3

sprityo wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:48 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:59 pm *pokes sprityo really hard with a pitchfork*
Ouch!?

What do you want?
Literally anything would be good

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