The Syndicate

rip sorry

Part of me yearns to get on board with the owner suspicions coming out of that lynch, but I can't shake the things that made me think she's civ from earlier in the phase (the original interaction with DH, the dark arts thing that I very firmly read as a townslip, and maybe something else I forget)

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:37 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:41 pm Yeah just for that post and to break the tie for above reason, [VOTE: TH] aubergine Love ya buddy but you're not gonna fool me twice chicken soup with rice
Like what even is this. TH’s post said “No don’t do it” so ... you vote them ???

Honestly it was just tipped over by that, but I was going to anyway because of the tie with Owner and Jay since I didn't want to lynch either of them. Then TH's post after my vote made me feel even better about it since it looked like backing off of buddying me and spinning around to a no u.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:24 pm Mafia:

Owner
Lunalee
JJJ

That's a player antipasto.

I'm more of a canapé person myself. Or perhaps an amuse-bouche.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:47 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:41 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:38 pm
Where was my vote before TH when you observed a change in my vote?
Quin, I think. I just remember you being the 4th one in the list and tying up the votes at 4.
I was the 2nd vote for TH, and at the time I don’t believe you had more than one vote.

I wasn’t around, and you made it look as though I’d dropped in to try to save you. I believe @juliets at least was fooled by that portrayal. And if you’re a mafioso, in this effort you have attempted to glue me to you, as your “partner” (in the eyes of any clueless civilians trying to interpret events) who wanted TH lynched merely to keep you alive. It’s entirely false.

I am not pleased.

You understand full well that she just erroneously assumed the poll votes reflected vote order (a reasonable assumption, as they damn well should

). Stop fake-reading too much into this. You're full of shit.

I take back my town lean on Jay. He's jumped right back in digging his own grave.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:08 am
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:04 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:47 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:41 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:38 pm
Where was my vote before TH when you observed a change in my vote?
Quin, I think. I just remember you being the 4th one in the list and tying up the votes at 4.
I was the 2nd vote for TH, and at the time I don’t believe you had more than one vote.

I wasn’t around, and you made it look as though I’d dropped in to try to save you. I believe @juliets at least was fooled by that portrayal. And if you’re a mafioso, in this effort you have attempted to glue me to you, as your “partner” (in the eyes of any clueless civilians trying to interpret events) who wanted TH lynched merely to keep you alive. It’s entirely false.

I am not pleased.
You understand full well that she just erroneously assumed the poll votes reflected vote order (a reasonable assumption, as they damn well should ). Stop fake-reading too much into this. You're full of shit.
But she said she remembers Jay tying up the votes at 4.

No she just saw that Jay's name was fourth and assumed he must have just voted there.

I just think it's ridiculous of Jay to try to paint owner as having some elaborate motive behind lying about jay's vote rather than the occam's razor explanation that she made a legitimate mistake (and a fairly understandable one, except for the unlikelihood that jay would change a vote without posting).

Speed are you whipped butter because you are on a roll this game. The mindmelds are real.

1 for 1, not too bad. Sorry to see you go speed.

That's not at all a correct use of that phrase lol. It refers to an intense rivalry, based on Real Madrid vs Barca.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:12 pm As far as I was aware the laws of the universe didn't allow for a scum juliets. I'll make time to read up on her today.

Quin:juliets::Glorf:Jay ?

Lol never mind this looks fun

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:32 pm
poutanko wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:21 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:16 pm
poutanko wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:14 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:12 pm Not really. A check-in post can come whenever. Why does that Day 0/1 distinction matter?
Because modblock only happen if someone doesn't post for an entire DP
D0 has no effect on D1 post count.
I'm sorry but I don't quite understand the point you're trying to make. nova has 0 posts in the game, regardless of phase. lapluie has one post in the game, regardless of phase. I have no basis on which to read nova at all, and as such I followed the math. I have one post on which to read lap, and it's at least mildly icky (as is the implied awareness of the game following from that post without having returned).
If they're scum they would have more urge to not be modblocked so they can use their abilities D0 has no effect on that, D1 is. I don't get how you read Lap as bad due to you viewing her 1 post on D0 as she did it because she urged to.
Anyone find this productive?

kind of, yeah?? it's a valid criticism of Jay's lap read/gth and an argument in favor of her towniness. do you not consider that input to be productive?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:03 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:00 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:32 pm
poutanko wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:21 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:16 pm
poutanko wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:14 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:12 pm Not really. A check-in post can come whenever. Why does that Day 0/1 distinction matter?
Because modblock only happen if someone doesn't post for an entire DP
D0 has no effect on D1 post count.
I'm sorry but I don't quite understand the point you're trying to make. nova has 0 posts in the game, regardless of phase. lapluie has one post in the game, regardless of phase. I have no basis on which to read nova at all, and as such I followed the math. I have one post on which to read lap, and it's at least mildly icky (as is the implied awareness of the game following from that post without having returned).
If they're scum they would have more urge to not be modblocked so they can use their abilities D0 has no effect on that, D1 is. I don't get how you read Lap as bad due to you viewing her 1 post on D0 as she did it because she urged to.
Anyone find this productive?
kind of, yeah?? it's a valid criticism of Jay's lap read/gth and an argument in favor of her towniness. do you not consider that input to be productive?
Moreso that I got the impression from their exchange that it would have been better/more productive if they stopped a few posts ahead. Seemed too drawn out to me, like they were talking each other in circles and not through the points they wanted to make.

Sure, I guess. I think it was worth her pointing out the rules distinction to Jay, though perhaps he should have realized it earlier, especially considering the host made a specific post about it in addition to the rules...

I'm pretty convinced that Bullzeye is our best bet so far. [VOTE: Bullzeye] aubergine

DH you've made up 3 nonsensical "tells" in the last page. Calm down pupper.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:21 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:03 pm I apologize if this has been litigated and I missed it (if so please point it out) but:

1. In Firefly Mafia, Owner scum read me in part based on a "Picture Tell" in which she said I subconciously associated with Negan and Thanos, two bad characters. Therefore I must be bad.

2. In this game, Owner scum read Kara based on a picture tell of Kara posting a Hagrid-themed comic strip. Hagrid is a good guy.

My point being, if in Firefly Owner (civ) Genuinely suspected me (civ) for being Negan/Thanos (bad dudes) that's fine because as wrong as it was, it tracks and makes sense if you accept the "Picture Tell" premise. If you accept that same premise and apply it to her Kara suspicion, its fake. She fabricated a reason to suspect Kara and the only reason to do that is if you're bad and need people to suspect.

Slam. Dunk.
Was that Picture Tell based on the characters being good or bad? If so I’d say, add this to the pile for reasons why an Owner lynch is a good proposition.

I really think DH is stretching it. Owner just thought Kara looked sketchy for posting a jokey comic instead of real content. I don't think it's comparable to the negan=bad thing. Maybe I'm wrong but I townread owner for multiple reasons so I don't see this as unreasonable.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:33 pm Someone tell me why INH is a civilian.

Who?

Can't recall a thing the guy has posted. That's kind of how he always is so basically NAI, but it means nothing is particularly in his favor.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:39 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:37 pm Can't recall a thing the guy has posted. That's kind of how he always is so basically NAI, but it means nothing is particularly in his favor.
in which I provide a link to my own grievances in hopes of aiding my good friend nutella of The Syndicate in her efforts to interpret the play of another esteemed Syndicateer by the name of insertnamehere

Right, I do remember this. He hasn't responded yet has he? It's a solid accusation.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:50 pm Anyway is Nutella buddying Owner or are they teammates.

No?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:55 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:21 pm DH you've made up 3 nonsensical "tells" in the last page. Calm down pupper.
Which 3
Made up how
Nonsense how

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:13 pm I'm pretty convinced that Bullzeye is our best bet so far. [VOTE: Bullzeye] aubergine
Best bet how
Pretty sure why
What's "so far" for you? Looking at anyone else?

The owner thing, the yun qui thing that made no sense because we were town, and the strange kill choice thing
Made up because they're not real tells
Nonsense because you don't have any real basis for believing they are mafia tells

Best bet because he looks bad for multiple reasons
Pretty sure because he looks like a potential Nova teammate, his vote and all of his posts have been extremely sketchy, and he hasn't done anything close to actual gameplay
So far meaning the case on him is stronger than anything else I've seen, but I intend to look more closely into timmer, juliets, Mac, Jay, soneji to name a few.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:10 pm Also since this has turned into the Firefly Reunion show remember that time nutella committed seppuku for TH and refused to believe he was bad even when I was completely right and he was bad and we lost lol good shit

Anyway is Nutella doing the Basic-Bitch tell I guess is the joke I am making in this post.

Quit using the word "tell" with too many different meanings. I don't know if you mean it's a town tell for me or a mafia tell for owner that I'm supporting her.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:33 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:28 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:55 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:21 pm DH you've made up 3 nonsensical "tells" in the last page. Calm down pupper.
Which 3
Made up how
Nonsense how

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:13 pm I'm pretty convinced that Bullzeye is our best bet so far. [VOTE: Bullzeye] aubergine
Best bet how
Pretty sure why
What's "so far" for you? Looking at anyone else?
The owner thing, the yun qui thing that made no sense because we were town, and the strange kill choice thing
Made up because they're not real tells
Nonsense because you don't have any real basis for believing they are mafia tells

Best bet because he looks bad for multiple reasons
Pretty sure because he looks like a potential Nova teammate, his vote and all of his posts have been extremely sketchy, and he hasn't done anything close to actual gameplay
So far meaning the case on him is stronger than anything else I've seen, but I intend to look more closely into timmer, juliets, Mac, Jay, soneji to name a few.
Which Owner thing?
Yun Qui Tell = Prioritizing game mechanics (House Cup/Ship Crew) over baddie hunting. TH used the Yun Qui's trust of him to prevent his lynch and nobody in the Yun Qui wanted to lynch him or mutiny despite me multiple times calling him out. Luna has prioritized House Cup Mechanics at least twice in this game, something DDL worried about happening.
"Odd Choice" Tell - Literally just quoted an example of TH using the phrase when he was bad.
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Which reasons do you suspect Bullz is bad for?
"His vote looks sketchy" and "his posts look sketchy" "he hasn't done anything close to actual gameplay" = These are good reasons and I like them an thank you for sharing them
OK Glad to see you're not just focusing on the easy wagon, hope to see you explain and expand more on JC, Timmer, Mac, Jay and Soneji and not just have you toss these names out and forget the follow through.

I'll try to get to at least some of them later but I'm at work so don't expect a lot. Also inh should be on that list, I forgot about him again because he's been forgettable this game.

Bullzeye wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:04 pm This is ridiculous

Why's that? Have anything substantial to say, either in your defense or in thoughts on other players (both would be good)?

Okay, inh is town

MacDougall

Spoiler: show

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:39 pm Gonna be real fun looking through everyone bending over backwards to defend Owner if she flips bad.

If she's bad I don't think her teammates would be the ones "bending over backwards" to defend her. If I were her scummate I'd lean with whichever way was easier, if it didn't seem natural to defend her I wouldn't. But who knows, not all players interact with scummates the same way.

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:21 pm I've only got a second, but a quick skim tells that Bullzeye may be getting set up for a lazy day 1 vote. I'll be able to properly catch up tonight, but for now, that's a development I'll be studying .

Sounds like tmi but ok

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:06 pm The Jack and Mac attack is back. Leggoooo.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:00 pm I am become the Sauciest Boi. Gaze upon my visage and beware.

Well then I'm the sauciest girl bc I spilled tikka masala all over myself today

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:29 pm I’m torn on INH. The tone of his defenses is decent, but the content is meh.

You're the GTH man. Take a side.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:05 pm
The part I'm most interested in this picture tell is this part:

"Well that's too bad because I wrapped your knowledge in teeth and fear."

Hagrid is generally friendly, but even in this sense he's like "too bad no can do"

In this picture, Hagrid is acting selfish/not caring about others.

Even though Hagrid as a character is seen as good, that does not account for the picture I'm directing you to, where it seems as though Hagrid is betraying his students.
@nutella speaking of "stretching it" do you buy this explanation from Owner?

Looking at the comic again, sure. It's pretty dark, and kara even implied later (jokingly or seriously I can't say) that they felt it was more about the Monster Book of Monsters than about Hagrid.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:28 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:27 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:05 pm
The part I'm most interested in this picture tell is this part:

"Well that's too bad because I wrapped your knowledge in teeth and fear."

Hagrid is generally friendly, but even in this sense he's like "too bad no can do"

In this picture, Hagrid is acting selfish/not caring about others.

Even though Hagrid as a character is seen as good, that does not account for the picture I'm directing you to, where it seems as though Hagrid is betraying his students.
@nutella speaking of "stretching it" do you buy this explanation from Owner?
Looking at the comic again, sure. It's pretty dark, and kara even implied later (jokingly or seriously I can't say) that they felt it was more about the Monster Book of Monsters than about Hagrid.
I don't care about lynching Owner anymore but you can't sincerely believe this.

Why not? Did you read the comic? It was not at all a positive portrayal. I'm not saying I agree with Owner but I'm just saying that given her explanation of what the picture tell is it could make sense.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:31 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:30 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:28 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:27 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:05 pm
The part I'm most interested in this picture tell is this part:

"Well that's too bad because I wrapped your knowledge in teeth and fear."

Hagrid is generally friendly, but even in this sense he's like "too bad no can do"

In this picture, Hagrid is acting selfish/not caring about others.

Even though Hagrid as a character is seen as good, that does not account for the picture I'm directing you to, where it seems as though Hagrid is betraying his students.
@nutella speaking of "stretching it" do you buy this explanation from Owner?
Looking at the comic again, sure. It's pretty dark, and kara even implied later (jokingly or seriously I can't say) that they felt it was more about the Monster Book of Monsters than about Hagrid.
I don't care about lynching Owner anymore but you can't sincerely believe this.
Why not? Did you read the comic? It was not at all a positive portrayal. I'm not saying I agree with Owner but I'm just saying that given her explanation of what the picture tell is it could make sense.
I read the comic. I also read Kara's "Oh come on obviously I'm the toothed book in this" post. Neither of which I took seriously.

Not taking them seriously is fine. I don't think they were meant to be taken seriously. I don't think that matters for Owner's reasoning. I think that the way she has explained the picture tell, it takes into account that the images are generally in jest.

I don't know why we're still talking about this.

Let's talk about timmer.

timmer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:10 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:01 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:24 pm Oh, by the way, I checked Turnip Head and he is bad.

Voting Turnip Head.

Epi aren't the abilities used at night? We haven't had a game night yet. Or am I missing something (there were A LOT of things to digest in game Set-Up).
Hey all! Just want to point out that I find it difficult to believe that juliets was confused by this post. Like, even I can remember that people say shit like this on day 1. Thank you.

This thing was gross. Of all the things he could have commented on for his first substantial post of the game, why that? Lame.

timmer wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:36 pm
karavalenge wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:13 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:09 pm
poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:04 pm Can't we just state we're Town so whoever have the Veritaserum can use it whenever they want to whoever they want without asking their sus about it (so not giving a hint/clue about them having the potion)?
This is obviously a good idea, right? Any objections?

I am town.
No, that's an awful waste of a 1-shot ability to tell the truth, just to get the same info as a regular ability (Divination). But because you've started this, I also have to say

I am a town.

Or else I'd look scum by not following along with it.
I'm catching up atm, but wanted to point out what could be a really weak attempt at following the I am town charge, but with a "typo" that invalidates it. I don't know this player, so I don't know if they would try something so clumsy as a baddie. But that extra word in their ld statement is noteworthy for a day 1.

Also, I am town.

This is fine I guess, I had the same reaction myself when I saw kara's post.

timmer wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:39 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:23 pm Kind of a pointless exercise anyway, for a couple of reasons.

1. Cop checks already exist.
2. If enough players say "I am town", the one-shot ability will be devalued to a cop check (if used in that way).

The above being stated, all that saying "I am town" does is give the person who said it towny points, regardless of alignment. There is little risk involved, especially if multiple people say it.

It might even be a scum gambit to be one of the first people doing it. "He suggested the thing, surely he wouldn't condemn himself."

Yeah. I was a participant for a bit, but I'm ignoring it.

linki: some neat ideas. I like them.
Also this was to be my next point. The I am town exercise tend to never pay the dividends it seems like it should. But here we are anyway lol.

Also I'm liking DH and Epig so far today, I'm neutral on juliets. None will getmy vote today barring a slip etc.

Notable that he includes juliets in his list of people not getting his vote even though he is "neutral" on her.

timmer wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:15 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:49 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:52 pm Okay, so reading owner's iso, I'd say he really and oddly blindered onto DH very early, and for what seems like entirely prev-game reasons. This allows him to talk a lot about suspicions towards sh, but without having to defend anything he says because, hey, is based on last game. And when pressed about it, he just versions of iunno I just feel it...

This can be a baddie move, but it can also just be blindering which ive done in the past. Those who know owner well, do you get any kind of alignment read from this angle?
Sadly, I can read this post both ways. Slight town maybe if I try to not be paranoid. I guess I'm debating if you would question others about how to read me or if you would just come to a conclusion yourself.
Well I guess the real question is, what would someone who has barely played for years do in trying to read a player he doesn't know, but ask about them? And beyond that, where would an alignment tell be? Which brings me back to you talking a whole lot but really saying nothing much at all...

I don't know what I'm supposed to get out of this exchange.

timmer wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:08 pm Ugh, bullzeye whiffs on trying to comment on the trains and votes a missing player?

He is the first to call out bullzeye. Ok.

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:21 pm I've only got a second, but a quick skim tells that Bullzeye may be getting set up for a lazy day 1 vote. I'll be able to properly catch up tonight, but for now, that's a development I'll be studying .

But then he says this. Timmer do you not want to lynch bullzeye despite implying that you found his d1 behavior suspect?

Awko taco.

[VOTE: timmer] aubergine

Okay. I'll move to [VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:56 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:54 pm Okay. I'll move to [VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine.

He already has a vote and I don't have any reason to think he's town, and I don't want to lynch any of the other current candidates (although of the people who have at least one vote I could also look into Luna more, I'm fairly neutral on her but somewhat more of a slight town lean than mac)

Good takes on Soneji. I could vote there.

poutanko wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:03 am
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:54 pm Okay. I'll move to [VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine.
Your vote is still on Timmer btw

Ooop thank

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:06 am Nutella is bouncing around like she’s tethered to something. If she accuses me, I could say “But I am town” and I would expect her to back off.

GTH babey

ColinIsCool - town
DharmaHelper - town
insertnamehere - town
JaggedJimmyJay - town
Kylemii - scum
Bullzeye - town
Epignosis - town
Glorfindel - town
Owner of a Lonely Heart - town
poutanko - town
Soneji - scum
juliets - scum
Long Con - town
Lunalee - scum
MacDougall - scum
Quin - town
Jackofhearts2005 - town
karavalenge - scum
lapluie - town
timmer - town

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:50 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:15 pm @Lunalee I missed that you had voted INH so I guess he is one you think has been laying low, much like I thought.
I also suspect Kara, because he hasn't said much.

this post sounds.... not fake per se but kind of like an obligatory "yep let me see, oh yes kara is the other person I suspect for laying low" and then that's it. that's all she wrote. Luna has thoughts on two players in the game right now. Great

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:24 am I'm working today, soon, until too close to the lynch. There are a few cases I'd like to reread, the Soneji one looks all right, but it didn't blow my skirt up on the first read. I think Bullzeye is off the table now with a strong vote of confidence from Timmer. Is that something folks agree with? He said 'no cop' but who really knows, that's just what a cop would say. :hahah:

I'm going to leave my vote on Lunalee for now, although I could put it on kara if it came down to it. I'll try to be here before it comes down to it, to ensure I have my vote on a player that is relevant come lynch end. Maybe even get another crack at a Deathly Hallows, who knows?

[VOTE: Luna] aubergine

Do you think luna and kara could be scummates?

gonna try to iso luna at some point before eod because I have not examined her nearly enough yet

Ehh I just looked at Luna's iso and could still read her either way. A lot of her hunting looks genuine but her back and forth on owner smells a bit funny and today she basically just echoed Jay re: inh.

Looking into Mac next, which won't take long as his iso is uncharacteristically short, which is already a strike against him imo.

Lots of short snappy snarky posts in true MacDougall fashion, but a lot of them don't sit right/feel natural in the way that a carefree balls-to-the-wall civ Mac does. It may be that I went in with a bias, but I feel like he could be trying too hard to imitate his town style. Like the fake "these five players are mafia" thing that was a highly unlikely list which he then analyzed reactions to. Even his reactions to the reactions looked fabricated imo. He's hardly given any real suspicions, certainly no explanations of them. Maybe I'm crazy, but maybe Mac is bad.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:51 am Mac calls quin and nutella scum.

Quin and nutella vote Mac.

Do better nerds.

I thought Quin was one of your "fake" suspicions and I was one of your drunken "real" ones. Why do you lump us together here? Just cus it's convenient?

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