I think I made it LC 4 - 6 Rej? Not sureDom wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:29 amDoes someone more detail oriented than I have a tally of the votes when the nut switched her vote?novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:25 am GTH nut is civ. Her reaction EoD feels genuine and how she was flip flopping. Feel like she came in late without any prep and everything caught her by surprise. There was that post where she reacts to someone else's take on the Rej's/LC thing and switches from Rej to LC.
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- Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:55 am
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- Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:56 am
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Or that. That sounds about right?novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:36 amIt was around 5 (Rej) - 3 (LC), made it 6-3 by voting Rej then 5-4 when she switched to LC.Dom wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:29 amDoes someone more detail oriented than I have a tally of the votes when the nut switched her vote?novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:25 am GTH nut is civ. Her reaction EoD feels genuine and how she was flip flopping. Feel like she came in late without any prep and everything caught her by surprise. There was that post where she reacts to someone else's take on the Rej's/LC thing and switches from Rej to LC.
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:02 am
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100% agree as you may have surmised from another post I just made lolMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:54 am@nutella you have scummed with Jay, what do you think?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:54 am Just btw I 100% believe Jay would absolutely kill TH if he thought it was the right move, "site health" be damned. I have wolfed with Jay and cannot in a million years imagine him saying "let's not kill TH because he's only just came back" if TH was empirically the best kill to be made. He'd be like "exterminate the prick and even better because I can say that I'd never do it and dumb shits would believe me muahahaha". Jay is absolutely cold and pragmatic as scum and him even trying that on as defence is scummy as shit.
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:19 am
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I like to think I wouldn't. I teared up when I saw TH had showed up on the forum in my walrus thread after a long absence. I love the fucker. I can't for sure imagine what scum!me would decide in that situation, but personally I want TH around.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:57 amI repeat, Turnip Head town read Dragomir. If Dragomir just lost a teammate Rej, why would he kill an ally? Not to mention Rej probably spewed him town in the "I don't get the case" post. Which also spews me town tbh. I'm clearing Dragomir off all of that straight up.
Nutella would 100% kill him. She fell victim to Turnip Head's skill in a big way in Firefly. Long Con probably just wants you, me or Epi dead most of the time. Especially you if he is scum and you are town, after that EOD. I don't think newcomers come to the decision to kill TH without help from at least someone who knows him well enough to talk about what a threat he is.
Why are you ruling out TSP?
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:27 am
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No.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:26 am You sillies. If Rej and LC are my teammates, I lynch Dragomir back to Timbuktu.
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:54 am
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...Dom is in your good pile again? Y
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:43 am
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And yet I have no idea where you stand on any of it
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:27 pm
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I prefer the real-time reactions during catch up as I did last night. You should try it.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:47 am'Caught up' is usually a promise of contribution. Shake the ants out of your pants, both of you.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:44 amFair
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:49 pm
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[VOTE:
sprityo] aubergine
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:54 pm
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Blech. Not doing yourself any favors there.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:45 pm If the present dynamic holds, my vote will be in the [Dragomir, nutella] space.
I feel like I missed something about Drago. Why is he on the table
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:59 pm
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Fwiw my PoE is Dom, Jay, LC, Speed, Sprit. Everyone else is fine in my view.
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:12 pm
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Every time he attempts to participate he just flails and it's like he's trying to appear natural and reckless bit it's just awkward
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:19 pm
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Dude I have nothing to say except I just simply disagree. I feel like we've been over how it could make sense that the two day 1 wagons were both scum. It's just a matter of perspective.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:16 pm Anyone voicing suspicion of Long Con and also ignoring everything I am saying gets a spot in the litter box.
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:25 pm
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Look, your point about rej having the weakest scum role makes some sense, but it also makes a lot of assumptions about the scum team considering that and being perfect actors in the moment. They may not have intended for LC to have ended up a major contender, but that's what happened on a short time scale at EOD.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:21 pmI highlighted the key word.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:19 pmDude I have nothing to say except I just simply disagree. I feel like we've been over how it could make sense that the two day 1 wagons were both scum. It's just a matter of perspective.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:16 pm Anyone voicing suspicion of Long Con and also ignoring everything I am saying gets a spot in the litter box.
Anything "could" make sense. Anything "could" be mafia. That doesn't mean much to me. When comparing the two worlds, I do not understand why people are arriving at the one that requires more presupposition, more moving parts, and less raw sense.
All this being said, I'm not feeling very strongly about LC in either direction at the moment.
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:36 pm
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......Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:32 pmI have to find out asap if my vote is on mafia or town. I need to know. I hate to mislynch a fellow townie.Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:29 pmUsing Process of Elimination is just one of many methods of playing this game. It's not my method.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:24 pmIf you are villager and I can't see you villager i will be very sad because that means i am an idiot voting for you.
How come you don't have a Poe. I am voting you. Am i a good one?
You are voting. The one you're voting is not in your Poe?
If one is an idiot for being unable to tell who's mafia and who's villager with every vote, then I guess we're all idiots. Right? I don't get why you would be so hard on yourself for being unable to easily put me in a category.
what
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:40 pm
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Hard mindmeld here, with the caveat that I'm concerned this isn't the strongest reason to lynch him. I just don't feel like I have anything stronger atm.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:38 pmI'm unimpressed. Feel like he's spending more time trying to look the care-free disengaged part, rather than being it. It doesn't seem real to me, more like a fake act especially how he brings up game content in a messing around way. Bonus point, I'm not interested in lynching Drago or LC.
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:48 pm
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About an hour and forty minutes
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:52 pm
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- Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:22 pm
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And.... stagnation phase initiated.
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:23 pm
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I hope Mac and Epi can make it in to chat a little before the deadline
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:46 pm
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Hmm the existence of godfather does make that a little sketch. But if he was godfather would he really be that overt, or is it more likely he's just a townie who wasn't really thinking about that issue?
- Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:28 pm
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...5 minutes
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:33 pm
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Nice!!
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:54 pm
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Dom, you do this with me every game. Take a step back. I'm not bad. Also the replying while I catch up thing is my standard MO. Your beefs have zero meat.
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:30 pm
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Then give me actual points to respond to. So far you've just suggested that I never expressed suspicion of people in my PoE, which is provably untrue. I've been suspicious of LC and speed for much of the game, I went back a bit on LC yesterday but that doesn't change the fact he's in my PoE. You're also mischaracterizing my sprit vote. I just felt it was my best option at the time. I was wrong.
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:33 pm
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Fair.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:05 pm Worthy of thought.
Rej lynched by a single vote on day 1.
Flipped wolf on his wagon.
Why did Speedchuck not just vote for LC?
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:35 pm
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Much of my poe is just poe in that I had reason to townread everyone else, but I have expressed actual issues with everyone in it as well. Dom just hasn't read my posts.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:26 pm @nutella it'd be ideal if you could attempt to explain some of your reads to @Dom. I realize that being all explanatory isn't really your gig, and I support that. Dom's questions warrant a thoughtful reply though, and if you're both dogs (as I suspect) he's gonna have a hard time seeing it without something more.
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:35 pm
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[VOTE:
long con] aubergine
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:47 pm
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- Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:48 pm
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I highly resent suspicion that is based on comparison to a game where I was not scum. Had no teammates and did not play remotely like scum.
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:48 pm
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*That* is gaslighting.
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:49 pm
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The problem was you only suspected one person and didn't change at all into the second day.Dom wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:41 pmYet I'm expected to give excruciating detail for every breath I take.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:40 pmI think it’s misunderstanding. I haven’t viewed nutella’s reads as being unexplained/inexplicable. It’s just a matter of context with her. She’s rarely the sort to go on about some read in detail.
Yeah fuck that.
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:01 pm
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I should at least allow her into my PoE. I just had such a strongly authentic toneread on her but other factors can counter that.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:51 pm Really think it’s Fayt. All my indicators point to the same person.
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:08 pm
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I'm feeling it's LC.
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:14 pm
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In no universe is it Dragomir. Yesterday's votes would have gone pretty differently if so.
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:36 pm
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Drago is always town here. Michelle is ALWAYS town here. Mac, Epi, or Nova could theoretically be pulling the wool over my eyes but I've mindmelded with them too many times to not want to think about that unless I have no other choice. It's within LC, Fayt, Jay, and Dom. Fayt is the only overlap I have with Jay's list so that's the most logical option I suppose, but my gut is weakest there and if Jay is scum then, well.
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:41 pm
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If nobody else is feeling an LC vote I can go along with a fayt lynch today and if that's wrong Jay will be in trouble. But then if I do *that* and then if it turns out I was right about LC all along it'll feel bad lol
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:44 pm
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[mention]MacDougall[/mention] I promise it's not me. Should we just go ahead and lynch Jay?
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:51 pm
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Really not a fan of how he is being even more hamfisted about not having killed Tony than he was about TH. I hate thinking about wifom stuff like that but it's like.... too convenient.
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:54 pm
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- Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:06 pm
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There's also this post, speed is wishy washy as hell on how to read Jay. He's hesitating on town reading him but also scum reading him, thus he's at the bottom of the town list. Bad look for Jay imo.Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:28 pm So I've iso'ed Speed and most of his posts were about Jay. I'm trying to make of what their interaction is and it's kinda hard. Though, I'll say this. That conversation about speed calling Jay's "tell me more" post "ew" feels like a bunch of horseshit to me. Got all kinds of fakey fakey shit in it.Mac is town.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:48 amWater them changes of perception, sonny?speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:46 am This whole nightkill analysis based on character, devotion to the site and out-of-game closeness to TH is kinda angleshooty.
I know I can't condemn it, as I got caught up in it and the Mac/JJJ go has changed my perception a great deal, but I thought I'd put that out there.
JJJ is lower on my townlist, and only not at the bottom because I've never actually seen this kind of angleshooting not be true. It's a scummy practice, town or mafia, but it usually works and is reliable.
It's not about emotional manipulation, as I mentioned in Phenon: Origins. It's a different kind of pragmatic and cold, one that you'd apparently stake honor on.
I welcome examples or corrections. I feel JJJ as scum, but as Mac called Epi earlier, I'm a sucker for character calls.
There's something else I got. Speed interacted with Jay A LOT. 90% of his posts were about him. There was barely any of that much content with him and Rej and they were buddies. Make of this what you will. I don't know how speed usually interacts with his buddies.
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This is a cool find. I'll look into their interactions more but this treatment of Jay from speed smells like cat poop.
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- Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:20 pm
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Tell me moooorenovaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:19 pmYes.
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:22 pm
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Ok, I just more thoroughly read Jay's points about fayt and am willing to entertain it. Going to give her iso another pass.
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:36 pm
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Okay so tell me more about why you specifically think Dom is bad.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:36 pmIt's more about thinking he's bad and our last cast, rather than specific reasons he killed TH. I hate that kind of night analysis, and it has no merit when facing more than 1 person without knowing the group dynamics. Remember Kylemii coasting in Megaman Mafia 'cause of a Jay's death on N1 that people thought couldn't be from him lol.nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:20 pmTell me moooorenovaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:19 pmYes.
- Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:43 pm
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I'm remembering how much I agreed with mac's early accusations of fayt, and thinking I tone cleared her too easily later. Plus Jay's points about her defending him, and the weird sprityo vote... yeah ok. [VOTE:
fayt] aubergine
- Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:29 am
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.....That is the hugest and possibly most transparent load of bullshit I've ever seen from you. You are evil and planned this entire thing. You *admit* to it. And your cover story doesn't check out. You *did* have reason to townread him -- how different his behavior was from P5. And don't give me that "meta is bullshit" crap. It was a real enough reason to assume Tony was town here; I heavily agreed with it. And he was absolutely not mislynch bait, ever, especially because you planted the townread of him anyway. In no world was he mislynch bait. Holy shit lmao. You just set this up to claim that. I see right through your little experiment.[VOTE:
jay] aubergine
- Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:31 am
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I don't care what makes more sense. I care that your argument has actual gaping holes in it. Because it is entirely fabricated.
- Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:32 am
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Assumption 2 is based on a false premise. "Mislynch bait" my doggy ass.