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Nutella is not wrong but I prefer to call you crazy than garbage
Had something to do IRL, you can chillOwner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:42 pmColin and Luna both read me town, but then also voted for me. Both of them seem opportunistic.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:30 pm Owner can you please expand briefly on those four scum reads, or direct me to already existing explanations
Luna had sort of a tunnel vision or was quick to think me asking what changed Colin's mind meant in her mind that I was asking where I went wrong.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:49 pm I think Colin is scum. Even before the flip, he was setting this up.
He read me town for a little bit, but the instant things started going south for me he quickly did what felt like a 180 to me and pushed for my lynch.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:06 pm If TH is good, Owner still deserves scrutiny. If Owner is bad, check TH’s wagon.
Or basically, this whole if-then situation is particularly bad when both wagons are positioned on good players, which I feel like Colin knows this.
I guess imo it feels like they weren't truly reading me as town to begin with. Or how else could they make the leap to vote for me?
Kara is picture tell read.
Poutanko is lacking activity or vocal presence in the thread. Town!poutanko felt very noticeable to me in past games. She just appears to be different. Also the popcorn emote is sometimes associated with scum watching town destroy each other.
Owner said mine was not picture tell but my popcorn emoji isDharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:40 pm And why is Kara posting 1 picture of a good guy a "Picture Tell" and Poutanko going out of her way to post several offsite emotes not "picture tell"
... okOwner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:55 pm I guess one might call it the popcorn eating tell.
...ok nutcaseJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:00 pm I am the greatest player to ever grace this green Earth with my presence.
Aren't both of them modblocked due to no post on D1 (Lap made her 1 post on D0)? Doesn't it put her on similar situation as Novase then?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:00 pmGlad you asked!![]()
novaselinenever has no posts, which typically indicates a lack of awareness of the game or an inability to get to it. I don't know if he's even read his role card yet. On balance, a civilian role is more likely than a mafia role. I played the odds.
lapluie felt the urge to check in, and in such a way that I found a bit awkward. She hasn't returned since, and thus the potential exists for deliberate avoidance of the game thread. It's obviously not rock solid shit, and I am not "sure". I made judgment calls. I'd greatly prefer they both show up and do things so that the reads can be developed.
Because modblock only happen if someone doesn't post for an entire DPJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:12 pm Not really. A check-in post can come whenever. Why does that Day 0/1 distinction matter?
If they're scum they would have more urge to not be modblocked so they can use their abilitiesJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:16 pmI'm sorry but I don't quite understand the point you're trying to make. nova has 0 posts in the game, regardless of phase. lapluie has one post in the game, regardless of phase. I have no basis on which to read nova at all, and as such I followed the math. I have one post on which to read lap, and it's at least mildly icky (as is the implied awareness of the game following from that post without having returned).poutanko wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:14 pmBecause modblock only happen if someone doesn't post for an entire DPJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:12 pm Not really. A check-in post can come whenever. Why does that Day 0/1 distinction matter?![]()
D0 has no effect on D1 post count.
Jay view:speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:25 pmI didn't get the argument before this, but it's a good point. Mafia wants to make good use of their abilities. Would the bad guys really be okay losing out on a roleblock/kill/other whatever dark arts or regular ability because Lap didn't post?
Not that they have any say in it.
If Lap is laying low on purpose, is it because she doesn't know the rules? Or because she doesn't care about the scum having actions?
Do you need to be asked for something specific to share your own thought tho? Okay then, do you have some other suspects in your mind or someone you notice behaving in a way that they're not their usual self? I see you keep asking people but only gave your opinion if you're asked about it which gave me impression you're guardedjuliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:21 amWell at the moment I am most interested in Bullzeye, not so much for his vote for Nova because voting a no show on Day 1 has been accepted practice in the past, but more because he posted on Day 1 but his posts were almost all devoid of content. That doesn't feel like civ Bullz to me - he's an outstanding player.
I think I made it clear that I don't suspect JJJ and I haven't read back on OoaLH but her refusal to vote for TH seemed more of a civ move to me than a baddie move. I may have more thoughts on her later when I read her back.
I'm just kind of throwing things out here, is there anything specifically you would like me to speak to?
Actually people on that game said Quin was usually chill and not like what he was on Outpost (which made him suspected there)
Rejected*
>why did you read Jay as Town then scum this DP?nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:03 am GTH babey
ColinIsCool - town
DharmaHelper - town
insertnamehere - town
JaggedJimmyJay - town
Kylemii - scum
Bullzeye - town
Epignosis - town
Glorfindel - town
Owner of a Lonely Heart - town
poutanko - town
Soneji - scum
juliets - scum
Long Con - town
Lunalee - scum
MacDougall - scum
Quin - town
Jackofhearts2005 - town
karavalenge - scum
lapluie - town
timmer - town
Yea iirc Juliet (and 1 other guy I think?) said the same. But then there are those who still scum read her so >_>
I've given my reads before but maybe an update later after I'm home. I'm new here of course you've never met meSloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:38 amCare to give me some other reads? Both town and scum reads, if you've got them. I just got here and you're a player I've never met, so I'm interested in your opinion on things.
linki: I see you're interested in the soneji wagon. That's probably not a bad place to look. Do you have any initial thoughts on any of those folks while we're here?
more sane doesn't mean you're sane, just less crazyJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:57 amSomeone figured out in two game cycles that which still seems to confuse so many who've played with me for years.![]()
and you quoted me because?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:33 amConsidering how vague Nutella’s suspicions on me are and how her case on Jay is just “fight me,” this rainbow and her current suspicions look made up.poutanko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:59 am>why did you read Jay as Town then scum this DP?nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:03 am GTH babey
ColinIsCool - town
DharmaHelper - town
insertnamehere - town
JaggedJimmyJay - town
Kylemii - scum
Bullzeye - town
Epignosis - town
Glorfindel - town
Owner of a Lonely Heart - town
poutanko - town
Soneji - scum
juliets - scum
Long Con - town
Lunalee - scum
MacDougall - scum
Quin - town
Jackofhearts2005 - town
karavalenge - scum
lapluie - town
timmer - town
>do you still has same read on MacD? You voted him last DP.
>what made you read lapluie as Town?
Do you remember Luna voters and Owner's? I only remember Bullz because I made a note of that.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:30 amI believe that before the Soneji wagon swelled, the prevailing two wagons were on Lunalee and Bullzeye. Owner also had multiple votes.
[mention]Lunalee[/mention] [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] [mention]timmer[/mention]What's your current read on those you voted before you guys moved to Soneji?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:45 amAt a glance it appears their voters did not move to Soneji. Soneji's living voters:poutanko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:37 amDo you remember Luna voters and Owner's? I only remember Bullz because I made a note of that.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:30 amI believe that before the Soneji wagon swelled, the prevailing two wagons were on Lunalee and Bullzeye. Owner also had multiple votes.
Lunalee - previously voted Bullzeye (?) and karavalenge
Jack - previously voted Glorfindel (who also had a two-vote wagon for a bit I think)
timmer - previously voted karavalenge (brief two vote wagon alongside Luna)
The Owner and Luna voters mostly appear to have stayed put (kara, Colin / INH, DH, Soneji respectively). Anyone should correct me on these things if necessary.
Soneji wagon was nowhere before I went to sleep, it looks to me like someone from previous wagon needed to be saved and there were people who jumped on that (the other wagons were only 2 and can go to any of them? Soneji ended up with 5)JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:10 pmI didn't think to include myself, but I also voted Soneji. Prior to that I had voted Lunalee and INH.
You voted Bullz too why didn't mention this?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:31 pmI made the initial case against Soneji. I had voted Soneji earlier in the day, then expanded on the vote here. I switched to Lunalee for a bit and ended up returning to Soneji.
I don't typically find X was saved by Y type stuff terribly convincing, because it's the sort of behavior that mafia members often avoid more than pursue just given the way civilians always respond to it. Your theory is as possible as any other though -- which voters do you think are the most likely to have been the savers, and who was the saved?