The Syndicate

juliets wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:One other thing I fell like JC as been getting a free pass. She has been jumping on every bandwagon, almost.

She voted for MM day 1, BF was lynched bandwagon style. She voted MM day 2, bandwagon. She jumped to vote Vomps over Zomba. She voted Epi after Bullz and it looked like Epi was getting lynched at that point.

Not to good looking. But I think we could find baddie things about everyone, me included since we have sucked as town.

I want more discussion even if you're accusing me people.
Oh I missed this. What is wrong with voting Epi again? He was bad. I did vote MM twice as I remember it and as you say because I thought he was bad. Also, I don't vote early so in most cases there are going to be votes on people before I vote them. And you are right, we could pick just about anyone and complain about their votes.

Yes, so I would like people to please try to look at things today. I admittedly lazily went ahead and voted Eloh last lynch. IT WAS LAZINESS. I'm ashamed of my performance this game. I plan to change this. I encourage all the people who want to lynch baddies to contribute as much as possible.

I looked at bulls and JC because I do believe SVSs role hinting. Of the players who are not Canuck Vomps and DF, you two are the most suspicious to me right now. IMO (IN MY OPINION, Bullz,

)

It sucks that Vomps and Canuck are basically not playing. But I still believe Canuck is a baddie. At least DF has tried, I await more thoughts from him today. But in all honesty, it doesn't look like a civvie thing for him coming back. Unless its a baddie set up.

juliets wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:One other thing I fell like JC as been getting a free pass. She has been jumping on every bandwagon, almost.

She voted for MM day 1, BF was lynched bandwagon style. She voted MM day 2, bandwagon. She jumped to vote Vomps over Zomba. She voted Epi after Bullz and it looked like Epi was getting lynched at that point.

Not to good looking. But I think we could find baddie things about everyone, me included since we have sucked as town.

I want more discussion even if you're accusing me people.
Oh I missed this. What is wrong with voting Epi again? He was bad. I did vote MM twice as I remember it and as you say because I thought he was bad. Also, I don't vote early so in most cases there are going to be votes on people before I vote them. And you are right, we could pick just about anyone and complain about their votes.

Yes, so I would like people to please try to look at things today. I admittedly lazily went ahead and voted Eloh last lynch. IT WAS LAZINESS. I'm ashamed of my performance this game. I plan to change this. I encourage all the people who want to lynch baddies to contribute as much as possible.

I looked at bulls and JC because I do believe SVSs role hinting. Of the players who are not Canuck Vomps and DF, you two are the most suspicious to me right now. IMO (IN MY OPINION, Bullz,

)

It sucks that Vomps and Canuck are basically not playing. But I still believe Canuck is a baddie. At least DF has tried, I await more thoughts from him today. But in all honesty, it doesn't look like a civvie thing for him coming back. Unless its a baddie set up.

juliets wrote:I'm not sure why you think I'm bad over Canuck when you say in your post you think she is bad. Or DF which you say in all honesty you think he is bad. Is it my voting record or what that puts me above them?

Not what I'm saying. I'm saying you actually post and try to contribute. Those 3 I don't think have been trying very hard. Though DF has at least posted some opinions. I think 1 or two of them could be bad. I really doubt all of them are bad. It's going to be hit or miss with low posters this late in the game. Like with Eloh.

I'm saying of all the votes I went through last night and this morning you and Bullz looked the most suspicious to me.

Then there is Vomps there who might be bad. It would add more to my case on Bullz if Vomps is bad in fact. Because then voting for EPI when the votes for Vomps and Zomba coming in would make his defense about that situation absurd. If Bullz knew both Vomps and Zomba where bad and voted for Epi who tied it up that would be something I would admire because of the way the game has gone down since then.

Turnip Head wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:Zomba was getting lynched. You knew this. You can look like a dumb civvie and distance yourself from Epi at the same time. Then when you try to help Epi out later it does not look so bad.
Voting Vomp would've been the better way to protect one of my teammates. When I want to save someone, I save them properly.
That would have immediately rang false though. You have defended Vomp through most of the game. A sudden vote for him would look pretty suspicious.

Still processing the rest of your defense. I did like your analysis of all the remaining players, Bullz. Outside of the case against you, I'm looking at BWT the most. He's got the blendy, mistake-free gameplan down pat. He hasn't really brought many of his own ideas to the table; most of his contributions are echos. Although he and Dom are the only ones currently still pursuing SVS, which again, I'm not sure that would be a savvy baddie move to make at this point in time.

But are we actually looking for savvy baddies. I'm starting to get the feeling we have been looking for baddies in the wrong way. I think maybe we are trying to hard and they are just not very savvy and we look like fools....

juliets wrote:bwt maybe canuck caught on to SVS's hints since she wrote that post. I also have not caught onto them unless something I just read going over Bullz was one of the hints. If so, I'm concerned. I don't suppose there is anyone else out there who ran across one of her hints while going over his posts is there? If so speak up. Otherwise I need to read her full way through, though Bullz I think said the hints are in the sophie section and splints lynch (please correct me if this is not true Bullz).

FS was claiming SVS was civvie before her death. She was hinting very hard for SVS who in turn also hinted some.

I would find it very odd if SVS was a baddie at this point. AND I WANT TO LYNCH HER SO BAD!!!!!

Not necessarily a civvie JC. But more like an Indy, if you catch my meaning.

S~V~S wrote:
Canucklehead wrote:I will vote today for whomever SVS votes for.
I am considering a last minute vote for you, so maybe you should get a different plan

Had to fly out last night unexpectedly, I will be able to catch up again in a couple hours.

juliets wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Juliets what are you thinking about doing with your vote?
Well, I didn't like bwt's vote for Canuck so I'm thinking to believe the poet and vote him. Or, rabbit who I put a lot of faith in sees bullz as bad and bullz also voted for Canuck so I might vote for him. Only thing about that is rabbit thinks I am bad and so I'm not so sure about his judgement on this issue. I'm having a really hard time with this lynch. What about you Turnip Head?

This is not true. I have said It seems like you're getting a free pass from everyone and I'm not sure why. I also think your vote when looked at could be baddie votes.

I just think everyone needs to look at everyone.

This crap with voting for Canuk is dumb. I'm not sure about BWT either.

I'm thinking I will vote Bullz for sure.

I might vote BWT since it looks like its between him and Canuck.

juliets wrote:Ok sorry rabbit I misunderstood. After everyone weighing in and i agree I don't want to spread the vote I'm going with bwt.

See if only you....could be not nice for like a second I and other could look at you from a different perspective a little more easily....gah, Juliets help us out here...

S~V~S wrote:So, as far as I am concerned TH is off the table. I am not supporting a lynch of TH. There are a few other people I feel OK-ish about, but a few people mentioned TH in the night, which is why I specifically mention him

Who do you suspects, Juliets?

Does not compute.

SVS has been targeted a helluva-a-lot........

S~V~S wrote:I am so looking forward to this

I believe nothing any of you say, forever!

S~V~S wrote:As it should be.

If you're fake claiming, my hat to you. It was well done if FS was a sacrifice to the team.........

I'm voting Bullz next lynch. Fuck it.

Bullzeye wrote:I would suggest you vote for a baddie instead, Rabbit.

Chances are that's not happening apparently.

Bullzeye wrote:Lucky me. Twice in ten minutes. Makes no difference, the civs have lost this game with their terrible play.

At least we got you!

juliets wrote:How unsportsmanlike.

I hate it that I was so naive about that info. But congratulations to all you who saw through it

Do you believe BR is a civvie?

juliets wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:
juliets wrote:How unsportsmanlike.

I hate it that I was so naive about that info. But congratulations to all you who saw through it

Do you believe BR is a civvie?
I now have my doubts. Do you believe she is a baddie?

Could have been a bold save attempt. With things having gone their way all game I could see BR being a baddie. I don't think they thought Bullz was going to be lynched.

I'm also looking at Bass. I think Bass is a baddie at this point.

S~V~S wrote:Bye Bullz~ sorry we suck

rabbit8 wrote:
juliets wrote:How unsportsmanlike.

I hate it that I was so naive about that info. But congratulations to all you who saw through it

Do you believe BR is a civvie?
Who had Liz' ear tubes? Can we establish a chain of custody for them? Becasue that was what allowed Liz to here snippets of BTS, right?

First vote for Liz.

Metalmarsh89 (6),

MM was killed the next night.

Baddies have ear tubes.

Wait, they were stolen at some point, correct?

S~V~S wrote:I thought Liz said someone stole them from her. There was a civvie thief, and a Celestial thief.

After claiming you could hear shit I would lie they where stolen too. But I think this road might be a fruitless endeavor.

Eloh was Waldo, could have stolen them got lynched. I got an amber necklace from her for voting first.

What you get Dom?

If the celestials don't have then likely the civvies don't either.

Then there was LC who was NKed.......

Get anything JC......

Waldo could have up to what 6 items.....

Rabbit8 (7), Dom (9), Long Con (10), Elohcin (11), juliets (12), Black Rock (13), Bullzeye (14), S~V~S (15), Bass_the_Clever (16), birdwithteeth11 (17)

Dom wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Didn't you do the same?

Well at this point I hope I was tricked. I hope my info WAS the Celestials and I'm hoping they know what they are talking about.
No?
rabbit8 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Bye Bullz~ sorry we suck

rabbit8 wrote:
juliets wrote:How unsportsmanlike.

I hate it that I was so naive about that info. But congratulations to all you who saw through it

Do you believe BR is a civvie?
Who had Liz' ear tubes? Can we establish a chain of custody for them? Becasue that was what allowed Liz to here snippets of BTS, right?

First vote for Liz.

Metalmarsh89 (6),

MM was killed the next night.

Baddies have ear tubes.

Is this accurate-- I'm a bit confused.

Rabbit-- I got an Ivory Arrow.

No she claimed they wee stolen.

Black Rock wrote:I got the tubes from BWT actually. I did not fake it or try to save him. I heard what I heard. I heard, "let's crucify Bullz or Dom" "Haha sounds good to me". What would you think with this information?

Sounds like SVS TBH.

But that's knowing Bullz was bad and hindsight is, well you know.

Black Rock wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:
Black Rock wrote:I got the tubes from BWT actually. I did not fake it or try to save him. I heard what I heard. I heard, "let's crucify Bullz or Dom" "Haha sounds good to me". What would you think with this information?

Sounds like SVS TBH.

But that's knowing Bullz was bad and hindsight is, well you know.

I thought it sounded like baddie plotting.

IDK.

This sounded like baddie plotting to me.

LizKeen wrote:Well that was quick, I like a host who's on it

I'm guessing SVS's will wasn't stolen because they were too busy stealing my ear tubes. But not before I overheard something. I don't know much but my advice today would be: Zombarella - be very careful who you put your vote on today. And everyone should be on the lookout for easy lynches.

I hope I was allowed to say all that. I only confirmed that I could say the tubes were stolen.

Also- RIP BR

And those pictures are great!

Could go either way.

BR said she got them from the BWT lynch, JC. Not sure if shes being honest though. The defense of Bullz was strong, sucks for her if she is a civvie. Doesn't look good though, IMO.

Items and what we have can be lie about. Hard to judge what others are saying in these regards.

Seems Eloh was not really involved but was stealing items.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Rabbit I'm not bad. I dont know what makes you think that.

If I had to vote right now it would be for you.

I will lay out my reason before night is over and I'm dead.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Well I can't wait for a good laugh. lol

OK, Bullz......

juliets wrote:SVS, Metalmarsh subbed in for A Person and then switched roles with Bass (or it could have been the other way around, A person switched roles with Bass and then Metalmarsh subbed in for A Person, it really doesn't matter which happened first).

It only makes sense that to switch roles you'd have to be of the same alignment, otherwise one of the two would know who a whole team of people were.

Metalmarsh died at night so he had to be a civ or a celestial. I don't think he was a celestial. So Bass, if he's the same alignment as MM has to be civ.

Something else happened in this time period sealed the deal for me. I can't tell you what without completely outting Bass.

This was storytelling IMO....

I assumed it had something to do with this:

John Cooper Jarndyce - The Sensationalist - Can create a scene which will enthrall two players for a day.

^^ Here is Lamas post.

thellama73 wrote:
Day 4

Roles, no. Why would you switch roles?

I think this role happened to Bass and A person..

Cooper Jarndyce - The Sensationalist - Can create a scene which will enthrall two players for a day.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:Roles, no. Why would you switch roles?
I dont know why we did, but we did.

I doubt it.

bitches....................

Bullzeye wrote:
Dom wrote: So I was killed because you were "annoyed" with the vouch I made for Canuck?

But SVS lived?-- in retrospect I don't know how I didn't pick up on it.

TBH that's BS.
When half the civs left are vouching for the other half, the game becomes stupidly difficult for the mafia. So the people who vouch get killed to deter others from making the same choice. Canuck's inactivity meant she wasn't an issue for us, but she was still practically a confirmed civ along with you. So you died. A big reason why we killed Rabbit was SVS' vouch for him. MM and LC were killed for being too good at the game, we had reason to believe BR was a dangerous civ, and you've seen why we killed Celestials. Who do people expect the baddies to kill, if not those who pose the biggest threats or cause them the most problems?

Damn it SVS. I thought me going after Bass Hard might get me off the hook for that NK I felt was coming.

Good game.

Bullzeye wrote:
S~V~S wrote:So did ours. Which was why the baddie strategy of NKing the people leading lynches on civvies baffled us Lol.
I genuinely don't understand how nobody else seemed to realise who you all were. If I'd been a civ I'd have suspected people for it. I was hoping I'd be able to plant doubts in your/TH's minds about people who were going after you so hard and that probably helped my death. But regardless, for all we knew it was just a matter of time before this very obvious 5-person civ-friendly team decided to go after the actual baddies, and we couldn't let that happen.

You weren't annoying us... Well not all of us... I found it quite funny actually that people seemed so oblivious. As I said earlier, the only person we really killed purely for being a Celestial was Splints. Golden was one of the initial names we threw out as potential Celestials, but we weren't sure. DP died more because if he'd been lynched his team would become trusted. TH seemed like he was coming after us.

I just thought having pointed it out would help the baddie, so why do it?

rabbit8 wrote:Eloh was Waldo, could have stolen them got lynched. I got an amber necklace from her for voting first.

What you get Dom?

If the celestials don't have then likely the civvies don't either.

Then there was LC who was NKed.......

Get anything JC......

Waldo could have up to what 6 items.....

Rabbit8 (7), Dom (9), Long Con (10), Elohcin (11), juliets (12), Black Rock (13), Bullzeye (14), S~V~S (15), Bass_the_Clever (16), birdwithteeth11 (17)

My attempt to hint at trading the amber necklace with the Celestials.

I suck.

I was thinking about it, Lama. But never felt that strong during lynches. Until it was Bullz.

I was even wavering on Zomba due to Golden and SVS.....

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