The Syndicate

I could see LC trying to get himself recruited also.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:59 pm So glad I can get away with just skimming this thing

I can just look for soup kills not keep track of every thunderdome going on

Confirmed DDL wants to soup us.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:16 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:24 pm Honestly I should get mafia I've won almost every game I've played as a mafia member or been part of the winning team!

And if not imma cry or be really salty

This post leads me to suspect that sig was not the Night 1 auto-recruit. There is a tone of speculation that excludes him from the setup awareness that that player would have.

did that sentence make sense?

Update: I'm still salty.

Sloonie flips makes me trust Ted more, but the biggest issue here is mafia members have no control of other mafia members kill since no BTSC.

I don't see how you can accurately scum hunt tbh, mafia is more like 3P than mafia, they don't have chat, and a fair amount of them won't even know who's their partners.

LC, TSP, or TH would've killed Sloonie.

I don't believe a new player would've killed Mac D1. Dom is up in the air.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:26 pm LC, TSP, or TH would've killed Sloonie.

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] Didn't you push TSP last game, like the driving force.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:27 pm If sig was not the auto-recruit, Day 3 is the earliest he could theoretically become bad.
His first post after that point:

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:57 pm I'd be down for a Jack vote.

I'm liking Okosan, TH, ted, and Lc.

I'm meh on Rej, sloonie and TSP. However, I don't think both tsp and sloonie are mafia.

He'd expressed some previous skepticism of Jack, so that suspicion checks out from a consistency standpoint. He waves his hand at four positive reads. I don't object, but I want reasons attached to those. Same with the mehs, which I am one of. @sig why did/do all of these reads exist? How have they changed? What does my flip as Chihiro Tree Stump do to your view of the game?

I am not noticing a big shift in sig's posts between Days 2 & 3, but that doesn't mean much. I didn't love the Jack suspicion from anyone, but there is demonstrated evidence that sig believed in it at a time when I do not think he could have been bad. It's an easy case to hide behind for a new recruit in theory, but I've got no tangible reason to assume that's what happened. My read on sig is dependent on how things progress from this moment forward.
I feel that will be the case for all of you.

linki: oh look he's here. hi sig.
linki II: stop posting sig, i'm trying to submit this.

I'll post when I want!

They seemed civvie.

Ted is/was playing the same way he has every game so far seems commanding and town-centric
Okosan: was giving good content and I liked some of his posts.
TH/LC: Were both a combo of gut/civ meta. I know think both could be mafia based off kills.

Rej, seems more scum sided he also voted for me day 1 here and when he was mafia last game, but didn't vote for me when he was civ.
TSP/Sloonie due to your early arguments/discussion It didn't seem w/w or town/town.

I agreed with LC that Jack would try to get recruited/would be a threat if he was a late recruit so it was an easy lynch choice. That's also why I'm looking at LC/TH since I could see both trying to become mafia and the kills would make sense for them.

You being a tree, means Ted didn't kill you. If I wanna get WIFOM I'd say Birdy wasn't responsible for this kill, but could still be mafia. Or the kill was set up to get us to go after either Ted/Birdy.

Why do you think Jack could be mafia?

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:53 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:52 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:49 pm I am town and I will prove it by voting mafia.
[VOTE: sig] aubergine

The path to convincing me is in proving that sig is mafia.

a treestump doesn't need to be convinced, especially when they can't vote

No reason is his reasoning.

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Wanna throw down a vote and I've had some low key bad vibes for awhile.

Rej logic is illogical he voted me D1 and now D4 for being mafia. But, doesn't like explain either time why I'm bad or when I became bad

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:07 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:02 pm [VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Wanna throw down a vote and I've had some low key bad vibes for awhile.

Explain

3 reasons.
1. He's in my notes as "lol not good"
2. I kept bringing him up as a ping, which I did last time he was mafia, but didn't bother to ever really pursue.
3. I think he'd be the most likely to have been recruited and kill you assuming he was just recruited or kill Mac D1. So in my world he was either recruited D1 or D3. D1 would fit with my overall meh read of him.

Also I don't wanna sheep Ted after your flip which was my original plan for the day, but I'm not ready to vote for him since he's a strong civ player. So that leaves me lost and I gotta forge my own path. Which at this point is either TH, LC, or TSP.

Then there's some WIFOM here of Creature/Fayt being mafia and subbing out due to it vs just being busy.

I'd say Fayt has the the more busy angle and I don't agree with Ted's idea of busy = mafia (Speakign of which that's a ding on him actually gimme a minute to go there) While Creature just rolled mafia twice so I could see it more likely he'd be fed up, already short on time and just ask to be replaced.

Thoughts?

(also if this counts as angle shooting don't kill me bro) Buuuuuut it shouldn't should it? Hmmm

So the lynch Fayt for being inactive thing was pushed by ted correct? [mention]tedxtr[/mention]

If so I'd be a bit more sketchy of him in hindsight since I didn't think that was a good reason to lynch ever and is something mafia will do. So I'd add one more path of despair point to Ted for that probably.

Also Trustworthy has been laying low so has Rej to a degree , thoughts on how active a recruited mafia would be especially if they were recruited early?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:40 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:26 pm LC, TSP, or TH would've killed Sloonie.

I love it, man, you always include me on a list of people who would try unorthodox crazyshit. You're goddamn right. But it wasn't me.

It's paranoia from my early days on TS.

There goes my there aren't really any mafia members just a shit ton of LMS people with one kill shot running around.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:52 pm

Spoiler: show

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:30 pm I’ll push us forward a little more because this day phase is not progressing with the energy I’d hoped:
Junko (the nightly roleblocker) is actually Mukuro Ikusaba. They were automatically recruited night 1, they know monukuma’s identity, share his win condition, and reveals as civilian upon death. They also have or had a 1-shot nightkill to be used at any time during the game.

This is why I say it’s “possible” Jack was actually mafia.

This means that the first person to be recruited was essentially mafia from the beginning. They may not necessarily have known DDL was their partner/boss at the time, but they were aware that they’d be recruited from the outset. I have been looking at player ISOs to see who demonstrated an apparent eagerness to understand the recruitment mechanisms and such: anyone who appeared quizzical about that was probably not the auto-recruit.

But it’s also possible that this player is already dead and flipped civilian. We can’t really know without other secrets coming into play to help us out.

There goes my there aren't really any mafia members just a shit ton of LMS people with one kill shot running around.

Okay, I'm lying I still like 20% believe that's a possibility and Bearo's win is either kill everyone, maybe with Ikusabe as partner or something along those lines. Which is why he has a soup kill.

Linki: I'm not opposed to a Okosan lynch, but I'm not really seeing an overwhelming reason to vote for him.

I'd say if TSP doesn't flip based off the night actions then maybe he'd be worth going for.

Also we've had what 2 or 3 nightkills?

The player before don't know new recruits. So Unless DDL is telling them which I guess he could I feel like there's a sizeable chance they'd hit a fellow mafia member at some point kill wise.

I'm also really salty Makoto Naegi hasn't chosen me to chat with like wtf?

Not getting mafia, not getting chatted with.

I really really reeaaaaaallllly need a Serial Killer role in a game asap so I can just revenge kill everyone that wronged me in previous games.

[mention]Long Con[/mention]

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:30 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:56 pm Long Con

BRO are you saying I wronged you in a previous game, and I'm foremost on your list? Say it ain't so!

More so that you should give me SK in GoC but yea in hindsight that too.

Let's lynch ddl again and see what happens

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:15 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:24 am Let's lynch ddl again and see what happens

This suggestion was so scummy even I want to lynch you for that.

Too bad I can't vote.

Now I wanna do it even more

Yay still alive.

I've got literally no clue what's going on and trust none of my reads.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:04 am I am back to the initial PoE of Okosan / sig / sabie / sloonei

with sloonei being the flipped town. Seeing that I was right on 3 of my town reads, I thought that maybe I only hit the town out of that PoE, and we should've moved onwards with lynching there.

Idk, you haven't been right yet so far.

Also another low posting player was killed.

[VOTE: okosan] aubergine

Agree with TH, and between him me or LC I m leaning most towards him right now.

Yay mafia lynched.

Teddy my boy dont be dumb I've basically claimed already and am an obvious civ

Especually since I wqnat even around for the TH lynch I voted Oko when it was between him me and lc

When do we think TH got recruited?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:10 pm I HIGHLY doubt that any Mafia member is ignorant of the identities of the others.

So your saying you knew TH was mafia then.

Okosan wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:12 pm COOOO! (Also tells you what role is alive and can be used to confirm players as certain roles to him if we wanted)

Maybe?

I read it as player not role.

Well I was all down for a ddl lynch even the other day so I could go there, but I dint like trustworthy last post.

Why based off yesterday am I mafia?

Ted's argument is hella scummy atm.

Also so the way I see if is if sabie didn't trigger this then it probably means its automatic upon death of a mafia member?

Trying to say the host post is host and should be trusted when we've discussed multiple times that its ddl sending these in goggles me.

Ted is last remaining mafia,

Ddl faked a soup on him to avoid suspicion.

Ddl is also aware of all secrets meaning if he knew that this event was triggered when X happened he'd have the ability to do this

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:52 pm For the people not getting it, if I was recruited and DDL knew my role, I wouldn’t get soup’d in ages. Because he knew what role he converted.

So this is why I’m voting sabie, if I voted DDL here, I’d die in the night because I’m confirmed.

That’s 4 people PoE’d now.

Soup only works once?
If you were mafia and he faked souped you it makes sense.

Ultimately this is voting between a known green check and a known red check anyone that votes for or even argued for voting sab is scummy af i

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:32 pm Lies!

There’s no protection, that’s why I’m scared

I'm not sure about rhat.

So heres the thing I've played many games in the early day before TS when role claiming was allowed and frequently got red checked outted then convinced town to lynch the cop who outted me. Using the same type of strategy that ted and tony did.

So heres what's up either ted and Tony are last two mafia pr just ted is.

The biggest thing is why did ddl only siup one? Why not just put in a name for everyone?

He did it in an attempt to clear ted.

100% I've been saying for awhile ted. Ould be mafia for supertiwn this seals it for me.


Also he just said we dont know if there is mafia, but we literally just flipped one last phase.

Think the idea is simple assuming d6 is earliest trigger time it gives both sides enough chances to maneuver and make deals. This is meant to be a clear cut mafia vs town who still has the numbers and theyd win but they missed a night kill.

I can 100% tell you lynching ddl is the way to go

Like 100%

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:04 pm Also @sig , I know you like to tinfoil, so hear me out.

You say I am the red flip, but I am not. I am the fucking 3P. My wincon is not the same as the mafia. But the mafia is alive and... how can you be sure they are not just voting to lynch me along with you? As ted pointed out, continuing the game could benefit them, if they are already close to winning. Aren't you letting the real mafia play you?

No no no see my tinfoil is ted is mafia who you souped on purpose

I know for a fact you have to go.

Like for a fact