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I mean, yeah we need to lynch scum today and we should consider all avenues, but this is one of them.sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:04 pmYeah, I don't think we should focus to much on it and still act like this could be lylo, however I do believe one was mafia and we just have one left.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:49 pmhmmsig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:46 pm
So you know I started coming from Badguya, today I was switched over to Rico's army. This would occur when two things happen.
I vig a mafia member
My brother, a mafia member, dies
Since I switched over that means Kenway, who I killed was mafia Kyle who mafia killed was mafia. Or in theory I guess rdw?
Either way someone who flipped within the last 72 hours couldn't have been a civ since I was switched to Rico's army.Points to Kenway I guess (rdw makes the least sense if you were just switched over after the night, and mafia killed kyle)
Why? Why the heck would Sig gambit that?colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:23 am I'm voting speed or Sig today. I could buy sig's whole "I'm neutral and I accidentally killed my brother who's mafia except he flipped town but really he's mafia" as a mafia endgame gambit. His kill last night was decidedly town unfriendly. But overall I trust Kites and since I know I didn't kill Kenway it has to be speed.
Why gambit, then? Why even claim the vig in the first place?colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:54 amHe's been saying he's neutral all game?speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:42 amWhy? Why the heck would Sig gambit that?colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:23 am I'm voting speed or Sig today. I could buy sig's whole "I'm neutral and I accidentally killed my brother who's mafia except he flipped town but really he's mafia" as a mafia endgame gambit. His kill last night was decidedly town unfriendly. But overall I trust Kites and since I know I didn't kill Kenway it has to be speed.
1. He's been saying it all game.
2. He's not under suspicion as much as you, me, or nutella.
3. It's not even a good lie.
He would have been after killing a townie. I don't care if he thought kenway was mafia or night, a vig last night is an anti-town play, period.
I mean, people are believing it, so if it is a lie it seems to be a good one?![]()
I need to know why you cleared nutella.sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:24 pmYeah, looking at the way things have landed I'd say we can clear Nutella and I know I'm a civ.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:10 pmI mean, yeah we need to lynch scum today and we should consider all avenues, but this is one of them.sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:04 pmYeah, I don't think we should focus to much on it and still act like this could be lylo, however I do believe one was mafia and we just have one left.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:49 pmhmmsig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:46 pm
So you know I started coming from Badguya, today I was switched over to Rico's army. This would occur when two things happen.
I vig a mafia member
My brother, a mafia member, dies
Since I switched over that means Kenway, who I killed was mafia Kyle who mafia killed was mafia. Or in theory I guess rdw?
Either way someone who flipped within the last 72 hours couldn't have been a civ since I was switched to Rico's army.Points to Kenway I guess (rdw makes the least sense if you were just switched over after the night, and mafia killed kyle)
Whether or not we have 1 or 2 scum left matters, darn it. It changes the mechanically potential teams.
No, I mean why claim the vig KILL? There are other ways that crit could have happened.colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:29 am Also "why claim the vig" I mean probably because all the roles are public?
Oh. I hadn't read the write-up.colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:51 amKites or nutella, right? Except Kites is basically confirmed town, and he's screwed if he I blocked nutella, who I had targeted the previous night.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:35 amNo, I mean why claim the vig KILL? There are other ways that crit could have happened.colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:29 am Also "why claim the vig" I mean probably because all the roles are public?
Also he's killing him in the writeup, so.
He hasn't been playing like an independent, as far as I can tell. And if there are two baddies and an independent left, would you want to lynch the independent?colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:37 pmEven though he claimed to basically be independent?speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:12 pm For the record, as frustrated as I've been with Sig's lack of/choice of actions this game, I think he's town.
Makes sense.colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:34 pmI was trying to block nutella.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:11 pm I'm going to assume that everyone promoted by now.
cbob guided nutella, and this action was reversed by kenway (what does that even mean?)
Kenway reversed cbob?
nutella claimed to misdirect kenway
This weird 3-way catches my attention. Cbob (promoted merc) was supposed to affect nutella (promoted pegasus knight) with the help of Kenway (promoted Mage). But Nutella supposedly redirected Kenway.
Ignoring scum shenannigans, which of these actions had priority in this? What was the reverse supposed to do?
The only person who could clarify what happened aside from these two is dead. That makes the claims of targeting each other/Kenway convenient.
colonialbob, What were you hoping to accomplish with the help of Kenway?
nutella, Why redirect Kenway?
"Fire - Each night, you may target another player and reverse their action. A nightkill will become a doctor, a guide will become a block, a track will become a reverse track, etc.
Promotes to Sage or Mage Knight"
I specifically checked with Jack to make sure the reversal would still affect my action if I used my bow. Bow should have priority over nutella's action:
"7) Bows are not weak or strong against other weapons but have a 100% chance to self guide against fliers. Bows allow players to retroactively effect actions of fliers that have already resolved. Example:"Spoiler: show
Why do you adamantly disagree with this? It's not exactly an unheard-of role.colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:05 pm I simply don't believe there's a mafia who flips as Town.
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:14 pm Obviously I could be wrong, I just think it's significantly more likely there's another explanation that Sig swapped sides.
That's a good point. Just to verify, though:
Hammer us out a conclusion. Tell me what you think happened. This post feels self-contradictory.sig wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:51 pm I know for a fact, assuming my background isn't misleading that my brother is mafia and that I can't kill my brother if I target them.
So unless another role superseded my inability to kill my brother that would mean Kenway is mafia, but not my brother. And that Kyle was mafia and my brother. However, mafia killed Kyle and he was mafia so that has to leave Kenway.
And yes I'm being slightly OMGUS, since you seem to be attempting to turn the tables and get me lynched and I know I'm a civ.
And if I'm mafia I wouldn't have? I don't know what point you're trying to make.
What do you think the deal with Sig is? His story doesn't match what we've seen?
You're freaking kidding me.Kites wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:55 pmi was sure that nutella was scum before you revealed this mafia brother thing, it messed everything up. we can’t be sure if kenway was bad or not, or if there’s 1 or 2 scum left, so the best thing to do is go after kyle’s killer and only two people could have killed him last night, bob or speed, and speed is being scummier imosig wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:12 pm I'll be in and out until 5ish
@Kites Explain your Speed vote to me please
And I'd like everyone's thoughts on Nutella. She's pretty much gone afk this phase and her last minute vote for rdw the other phase doesn't look good also explain mechanically how she can't be mafia.
In writing my last few posts I've talked myself into a Bob lynch, I'll be willing to switch, but I need some other players feedback into his posts these last few days.
[VOTE: Bob] aubergine
Kites wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:03 pm guys i have an idea
speedchuck stole nutella’s vote yeah?
so kites bob nutella vote for speed
speed and sig vote bob
if speed stole nutella vote he couldn’t have killed kyle and bob dies as scum. if speed killed kyle he didn’t steal nutella’s vote and speed dies as scum
but then again this can only work if there is 1 scum left so... thoughts?
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Thanks.
I was afraid Sig would switch if Nutella suspiciously did not follow the plan.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:57 pmConsidering you just won the game that begs the question... why were you?speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:54 pmThanks.
Thanks for being a good sport too.
(for the record, nutella isn't lying. I was trying to get her to put her vote on me and switch at the last second. Grr.)
And for the record, Kites, I've been directing you wherever I want every night since you were recruited into badguyia. Secondary power. Frustrating that you THOUGHT you targeted Kylemii, and it just happened to almost get me killed.
... yeah.
Thanks. :P Sorry I made you freak out. I check this site during down-time at work, and my work PC blocks Chatzy.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:32 pmThanks for the praise! I couldn't have asked for a better replacement.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:19 pm BTW, I don't know what the protocol is, but I think Dunya deserves credit for this scum win as well.
I did decent enough, but if I had not inherited a supahtown role, I'd have probably kicked the bucket much, much earlier.![]()
Proof of that is how we killed rabbit off so we didn't have to face you, and assumed lap may have been replaced and you'd take her place.![]()
The plan would have completely screwed us over in the end if it weren't for Sig's role.colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:26 pm*shrug* I still think the plan worked ok. It definitely made me suspicious of speed again. If I had agreed to lynch nutella or if we don't lose kenway the next night I think town pulls it off.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:22 pm Also all the plans involving perfectly predicted night actions.![]()
I would have selected Dunya to avoid her being a civ.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:51 pm The exercise's insight may have been specific to dunya. Epignosis and I were also oft-named, but entering the game that wasn't likely to surprise anyone. dunya though, despite having performed very well in her earliest games on this site, hasn't had enough time to generate much play-based reputation -- and she was still named more than either of us (or anyone else). I probably should have cared more, but yanno. Everything seems clear when the answers are revealed.