Like, if Sig gets on the site again. Then he can submit the scum nightkill tonight, after I get lynched.
No townies would die immediately upon my lynch.
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- Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:32 pm
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- Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:40 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 9]
I strongly believe in the lack of nightkill as an indicator. I guess Matterhorn could be a god-tier doctor. If it's niju, it's niju. That changes nothing about my argument. We're tangenting. My lynch is not a danger.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:34 pmwhy are you completely ruling out the possibility nijuu could be the last scum?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:32 pm Like, if Sig gets on the site again. Then he can submit the scum nightkill tonight, after I get lynched.
No townies would die immediately upon my lynch.
- Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:40 pm
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- Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:41 pm
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- Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:42 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 9]
My friends will never trust me again.
- Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:49 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 9]
Ndunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:43 pmHave you lied when answering any of my questions?
can you tell me why you didn't write a blurb about either Eloh or Wilgy in your player list? was it intentional? Y/N
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- Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:54 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 9]
The info is wiped by default for the nightkills in this and other games I've played like it. Mafia gets no bonus info.
- Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:56 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 9]
There is nothing at stake for you. The efficient choice would be to end the game. Thus the bullet to the head.
No harm will go to you if you help me out. It would just take some time and effort. Thus the good Samaritan reference.
- Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:13 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 9]
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:07 pm another angle to consider... acquiescing to speedchuck's request puts us at a higher risk of losing if we're really just 100% wrong about sign and Nijuu. If for example LC or Quin or whomever is the final mafia and we lynch Speedchuck today and he starts killing again tonight things start getting dice-y.
You want to kill Sig. If kills happen tonight, you can rule out Sig. Ruling out the same number of people.
If kills don't happen, then you get more confirmation.
- Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:14 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 9]
I don't know if I'm allowed to answer questions about this hypothetical 3P wincon that I might have.
But I personally would not be totally against such an occurence.
- Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:20 pm
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- Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:32 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 9]
Explain to me how that many protections happened.
- Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:39 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 9]
Nevermind, I read kilamanjaro's role.
You're right. It totally could be Niju.
You're right. It totally could be Niju.
- Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:40 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 9]
Doesn't sutter buttes only lower the vote count of fellow LITTLE mountains?
- Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:53 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 9]
LC is 100% town by the way.
- Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:55 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 9]
Dunya is 99.9% town.
LC is 100% town.
Rolewise, that is. This isn't a read or anything. I mechanically have these players marked at this point.
If someone can match K2, that's three townfirms.
LC is 100% town.
Rolewise, that is. This isn't a read or anything. I mechanically have these players marked at this point.
If someone can match K2, that's three townfirms.
- Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:03 pm
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- Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:11 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 9]
For you, maybe. Not for me.
I'm gonna leave the thread for a while. What happens will happen, I guess.
- Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:12 pm
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- Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:22 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 9]
That was supposed to be a reply to Dunya's post. The one above yours.
- Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:37 pm
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- Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:02 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 3]
. . . volcanos?nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:52 pm What is this about speedchuck being a bomb? I thought this was Mountain Mafia!
- Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:03 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 9]
I appreciate the gesture, LC. The vote, that is.
- Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:46 pm
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- Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:07 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 9]
WHOA. Yeah. You need a substitute kill.Quin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:05 pm I have thought a thought I thought I'd share. Tell me your thoughts on this thought.
If we lynch sig today and he's not the last baddie, the mafia is just going to continue killing again because the inactive scum idea has been dispelled. nijuu was here for the last missed nightkill, mind. We'd have 2 lynches to find them. If we don't lynch him today, we're forcing the mafia to either abstain from night kills or to show their hand. We'd gain extra lynches if they don't kill and spare us the sig mislynch if they do kill again.
That said, I do think it's sig. The first three scum flips + sig make a feasible scum team that could forget or miss kills.
- Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:44 pm
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- Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:30 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 9]
Huh. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it was just coincidence. If so, I'll go back after the game and frame the post that made me think that.
- Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:43 am
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- Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:46 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [NIGHT 9]
Game's not over. Cool. If scum is around and STILL doesn't nightkill tonight Imma have a hissy fit.
DDL is smart.
I am not Pico de Gallo or whatever. If I had any sense of personal glory, I'd have stayed out of this.
DDL is smart.
I am not Pico de Gallo or whatever. If I had any sense of personal glory, I'd have stayed out of this.
- Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:23 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 10]
The person that intentionally gambited by not killing anyone is the person that would bank most on it.
. . . do you know what 'confirmed' means?
- Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:29 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 10]
If all of the lynches and nightkills had gone through this game, there would only be one player left.
If someone is intentionally not nightkilling, I'm pissed.
If someone is intentionally not nightkilling, I'm pissed.
- Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:22 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 10]
If so:Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:50 am I believe Night 8 was a deliberate non-kill. To make us lynch Sig.
The rest are some combination of inactivity and roles.
Is it Niju? Did she have a good enough handle on the thread to know and connect that? (I know people were outright stating it, but I don't get the feeling that Niju has kept up with the entire thread.)
- Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:58 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 10]
I apologize.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:43 pmyes, confirmed town by me. CONFIRMED.
confirm
kənˈfəːm/Submit
verb
past tense: confirmed; past participle: confirmed
reinforce someone in (an opinion or feeling).
You guys are so rude to people whose first language isn't English.
Generally I (and the people on the site I'm from) use 'confirmed' to mean 'mechanically confirmed'. As in that the game/rules/roles confirms someone as town or scum.
If it's any consolation, I keep forgetting that your first language isn't English, and I have no idea what it is.
- Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:58 pm
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I wonder how you did it. FMPOV, you shouldn't have been able to figure it out concretely. Unless you figured it out from what I said. (which would please me greatly)
- Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:24 pm
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- Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:36 pm
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- Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:45 pm
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- Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:16 pm
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- Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:17 pm
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Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 10]
I am saying NOTHING.Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:10 pmSo I was right? Like, really right? My concern is that you winning means everyone else loses. I don't know that you'll get there anyway.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:24 pmSort of. Yes to the first two. Almost yes to the third one. It could be faked, but it would take guesswork and a crapton of luck. Like, an unbelievable amount. So much.
Your concern is invalid, but I guess you would assume I'd say that. Your concern doesn't make sense with this setup.
- Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:19 pm
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- Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:37 pm
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I thought sig was bad.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:00 pmso what was the urgency during last lynch?speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:16 pmI do not currently wish to die. It would be a waste of a day phase.
I thought scum could nightkill.
Friggin SEVEN failed deaths this game
- Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:50 am
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Oh. My hint was that you guessed my win con LC.
GG town. Glad to have helped I guess. I've been even more frustrated than mafia this game. My win condition was to be taller than all living mountains put together, whether I was alive or dead. This was impossible for a few reasons.
1. I misunderstood and thought I had to live until late game.
2. I misunderstood and thought I had to win with town.
3. People wouldn't effing DIE! Seven missed deaths! No way I could recover from that. And mafia never even attempted to kill the tallest two mountains, as far as I know.
I think I played a good town game until endgame. At that point I tried to get lunched so scum could have an extra nightkill. No point to that either.
I tried too hard to help town, not knowing I could win with scum. Sorry scum. Though it was the neutered kills in this game that stopped you. And me.
GG town. Glad to have helped I guess. I've been even more frustrated than mafia this game. My win condition was to be taller than all living mountains put together, whether I was alive or dead. This was impossible for a few reasons.
1. I misunderstood and thought I had to live until late game.
2. I misunderstood and thought I had to win with town.
3. People wouldn't effing DIE! Seven missed deaths! No way I could recover from that. And mafia never even attempted to kill the tallest two mountains, as far as I know.
I think I played a good town game until endgame. At that point I tried to get lunched so scum could have an extra nightkill. No point to that either.
I tried too hard to help town, not knowing I could win with scum. Sorry scum. Though it was the neutered kills in this game that stopped you. And me.
- Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:51 am
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Re: Mountain Mafia [END]
Sorry if I frustrated you dunya. I definitely want to play another game with you at some point.
- Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:56 am
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I was trying to die so that scum could get an extra nightkill in. And so you guys could read my role and find it in your hearts to lynch Nutella and Kyle for no reason. Ha.
- Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:00 am
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I was very desperate after I helped get half the scum team lynched.
- Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:20 am
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I would have allied with you if it weren't for scums win condition being worded weirdJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:08 am Amusing to discover that Olympus Mons was basically an anti-civilian role. The win condition may not literally state it, but if it's based on height and all the mafia are the shortest mountains, then, well...
Linki: it was obnoxious for me too. All I need is dead mountains. But nobody dies
- Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:04 am
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I think I was a part of the problem. I'm sorry for that. I mistook my role as being mostly town-aligned, when I should have been pushing to help mafia no matter who I win with.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:59 pm I had a good time overall (except for Day 1 ), but I suspect the mafia did not.
Civilians should not be able to survive at the rate they did in this game. Mafia couldn't kill. Their kill was almost useless. Couple that with the public clearings due to vote mechanics, and you have a scenario in which Mafia can never win because they will be swiftly outed.
If you run this setup 100 times, how many times will civilians win? How many times will Mafia win?
I would argue that Mafia wins less than 10% of the time.
Mafia have to be able to kill and have their kills go through in order for them to have a chance of success. If a doctor gets lucky night after night, fine- that's a fluke. If multiple mafia kills can fail for multiple reasons, rethink the setup.
Even the lynches were bad for the mafia:
Day 1 should have been a success for the mafia, but it instead worked against them.
Day 2 should have been another success for the mafia, but it instead worked against them.
Civilians should never be able to clear one another at the rate they did here, and mafia shouldn't have multiple failed kills without a lucky doctor.
Just my opinion.
I do agree with your post, though. Mafia had the short end of the stick this game.