The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:45 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:44 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:43 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:42 am Yo Mac

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If you’re wolf take me out N1 and if I’m wolf I’ll do the same alright?

Nah cuz I have you pocketed bitch
Say that to my odd night vig bitch
You wouldn't dare be responsible for miskilling me n1. You'd be so embarrased.

Please don’t test me

So, hypothetically speaking, if I were to be a vigi, who should I shoot between

Tim / LC

This is more of a meme read but

Mac, LC literally needed to smoke upon the devil’s lettuce to even post in the thread

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:59 pm Solid Town
tutuu
mac
tedxtr
sprityo
samusamu
poison

towny, some paranoia
Alison
DrWilgy
dyachei
Dizzy
Hally
Nanook
Tim
Oddmerta

Null
Colin
Long Con

Wafflin
Herm
Radish
spf

Slight scumlean
Jpic
FP-juliets

hm. I ended up putting more people in paranoia tier than I thought I would

[mention]nutella[/mention] talk about why you had those reads on dya, dizzy, nanook, tim and oddmerta

I don’t remember you talking about any of them prior to this

There is a chance nutella is mafia

Me being in lock town and not town paranoia reeks of the last time she was scum and wanted to pocket me

I hate pockets, get off me

This is the post where I declare that if I see anything remotely close to an attempt at pocketing me, you will...die a rather sophisticated way

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:07 am I have decided Samu is town

Late imo

Yeah until I get a clarification on how she managed to town read 4 people that she hasn’t spoken about at all, that wagon has my blessing

I’m gonna say Nutella is scum rn so that if she flips wolf I get some part of the pelt and if not I will quote the post saying I was town reading her and forgetting about this post completely

I’d perhaps place juliets in the same bracket as Mac and Poison.

I’d say my PoE would be Nutella / Tim / Oddmerta / Nanook / LC, maybe exactly in that order.

Looks good

I also town lean dya so I don’t know what that should mean for their alignment, I heard people that haven’t played with them tend to scum read them /shrug

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:44 am juliets continues to be town.

sprityo's beetlejuice is noted.

If nutella is scum what the hell are her buddies doing? Are they just leaving her to twist in the wind when there are viable counterwagons to push? I'm getting cold feet.

You shouldn’t imo.

If you couldn’t find wolves early it means that they let town do their thing and didn’t want to interfere much, why would they be doing that right now?

I’d still flip Tim over nutella but we have time

Theory towards alison :

If nutella is a wolf, then the wolves aren’t doing anything because they have been busy doing their own thing, solving on their island or being narrowed down on a person at a time.

Or they have said nothing about her.

Or they just don’t have other options to look to.

Don’t dive in wifom until you get the flip. Flip wolves and then discover what a specific flip means.

Wow all these compliments I’m getting for my wolf game

I know what’s happening, this is a conspiracy

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:24 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:18 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:17 pm
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:11 pm I'm town, not mafia, not rogue. If I was scum there wouldn't even be a towncore I would have destroyed it already.

What I am doing is coasting off of early townreads
didn't you say previous games meta means nothing to you? why should we believe you eaxctly?
*exactly

besides,

what are your current reads?
Nothing much has changed, I'd say timsup, staypositive, nutella and jpic are all on a team together. Jpic looks like a bomb to me

What happened to your read on me?

Don't have much to add, unfortunately

I think we need to collectively decide whether nutella is worth saving today.

If not, then talk about counterwagons before you mindlessly flash wagon from a potential scum just because "it doesn't feel right"

Don't get trapped in the EoD play because that's where wolves thrive in.

Personally, I didn't like the way she came back in the thread. As a town, you see 12 people on your wagon and you have no issues with the votes at all? There are 12 whole people on your wagon and your check list is "I'm gonna push juliets and spf?"

I don't really like to draw connections like these because they may not be accurate, but if we assess the situation, nutella had previously pushed both spf and juliets and spf and juliets both pushed back in an unpartnery way. In that situation, it only makes sense that as a wolf you'd want to single on those two again once you return - they would've already been spewed by your flip, so doing the same thing instead of giving more information reads very wolfy to me, where I think the mindset is preserving as much spew as possible while not actually providing any valuable info, because you play as if you're already flipped.

I don't know, I don't think nutella has passed any bar for towniness and I wouldn't consider other wagons as an option here. If you don't have reasons that you trust completely or just reasons that would bring someone >rand W, just talk about other reads and sort the game that way.

If people didn't have any solid scum reads prior to this, don't fall victim to "nutella sat at 12 votes, this doesn't feel right" and then switch to someone that you don't even have anything conclusive on.

That's all I can add for the game state right now.

If your role saves you here then just claim. I don't think there's gonna be a flash wagon, you have not been towny at all.

[mention]nutella[/mention]

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:16 am Also I have no fucking clue what the Rogue does so I'm just going to treat Rogues as scum and kill them as eagerly as I would any scum member. If they're SK or some shit, I want to dispose of that as early as possible.

Paranoia tells me that it might have something to do with:

Sloonei wrote:Roleclaiming and infodumping may be legal for some, illegal for others.
Mechanics exist which make roleclaiming and infodumping potentially dangerous. Proceed with caution.

i've ran out of dorky gifs

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:31 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:25 pm i've ran out of dorky gifs
there are 16 circles in this picture can you find them all

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took me a bit but I have

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:45 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:44 pm like a decent chunk of the people voting for me were just sheeping mac and that's whatever, he's just wrong

juliets particularly overjustified her vote by referencing stuff that is totally nai for me and with a caveat that she can easily see me flipping town. I think she knows I will and is just trying to cover for jumping on the wagon
I agree. We should flip Juliets when you flip town.

Why's nutella town?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:48 pm Too serious question from Ted. Ted lock scum.

Scum list: Juliets, Ted

are you open wolfing

Dizzy - why is nutella town and why is juliets scum for pushing her?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:51 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:50 pm Dizzy - why is nutella town and why is juliets scum for pushing her?
I have no clue. I haven't read this game. Don't ask me these questions. Baaaaaaaaah

i'll be back with more confident wolf reads by D3

glgl I hope EoD will be spicy although I think something terrible is gonna happen, spidey senses

[VOTE: Timsup2nothing ] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:22 pm Noting that Nutella also claimed her song, then it was actually not her real song. So even she was afraid of claiming her real songname.

"Wolf at the door" doesn't really sound like a town song. I don't think it has anything to do with having knowledge of the rogue's soups and such.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:31 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:29 am [VOTE: Timsup2nothing ] aubergine
Hey! Here's that other quarter I been waiting for!

@Hally now it's my turn...

How'd your night phase go Ted?

Didn't get notified of anything.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:28 pm Okay let's talk about the fact that tutuu is powerwolfing

It's a certain possibility, it's starting to become more and more probable

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:37 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:36 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:31 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:29 am [VOTE: Timsup2nothing ] aubergine
Hey! Here's that other quarter I been waiting for!

@Hally now it's my turn...

How'd your night phase go Ted?
Didn't get notified of anything.
So....no result on your action...claiming you took no action...?

If you are claiming to have roleblocked me or something, the only actions where I would be notified of said roleblock would've been if I had an investigative action, upon which would've been obvious I was roleblocked.

Since I am not that type of role, I don't get notified of whether my action went through or not.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:41 pm If this is tutu’s scum game I’m super impressed tbh

It’s also hilarious

You shouldn't be - as sprityo pointed out, 35 posts out of 25000000 are the actual game solving posts and the reads look pretty bad.

not gonna go over her today, obviously.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:42 am Did your action involve you going out Ted?

I'd assume so

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:44 am Okay. Guess we just hope your action was a good one and went through.

I hope it went through as well

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tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:39 am Princess Nutella reached for her sheath and put her hand on the handle of her dagger. She pulled it out in an arc, producing a whistling sound in the air.

"How dare you betray me!" she yelled, as she lunged forward, intending to pierce through MacDougall's heart.

Her dagger penetrated through flesh and bones. Blood splattered everywhere.

Shocked, MacDougall came to his senses. He looked downward and he saw Nanook, collapsing on the ground, with a dagger sticking out from his chest. He grabbed the dying man as his tears started running down his cheeks.

"W-w-why ... Nanook ... why?! Please stay with me. You'll be okay ... We will call the apothecary ... you'll be fine ... please don't go!"

Nanook, coughing blood, gathered all his remaining strength to mutter one final thing. "MacDougall .... t-t-these are my final words .... I ... lo-" his eyes turned blank. He passed away.

MacDougall looked at Princess Nutella with fire in his eyes. He lunged forward with the full intent to kill. The last thing he saw were the armored gauntlets of the castle guards grabbing hold of him and knocking him out.

----

MacDougall slowly blinked. The darkness in front of him was starting to fade away. Along with it unfortunately the pain from his bruised face returned. He gasped.

"My own son... My own blood... What a disappointment" - said King JaggedJimmyJay, sitting on his giant golden throne, looking at Prince MacDougall with contempt. "I've given you everything you desire. All the fancy swords and lances, all the fastest horses in the West, all the riches our coffers can offer ... you know how much our kingdom needed that alliance. Your marriage with Princess Nutella was pivotal for the survival of our people. And you threw that away. Thousands of people will suffer as a result of your consequences. Do you have anything to say for yourself?"

Prince MacDougall remained silent. He was looking at his father's eyes, his eyes full of anger and hatred. His pride didn't allow him to utter a word.

"I thought so" said King JaggedJimmyJay with a sigh. "He needs to receive his punishment. Guards, throw him where I instructed you."

A sack was put over MacDougall's head, rendering him unable to see. He was roughly grabbed and forced to walk.

After some time the sack was pulled. The loud echo of a door being slammed was heart. Then, a key being turned, locking it. MacDougall looked around. He was alone in an empty room, dimly lit by the two torches at the sides of the door he came through.

There was a rusty sword, a battered axe, and a splintered old shield. Puzzled, MacDougall pulled out the sword. He remembered the great old days when he used to fence.

Suddenly, the rustling of chains and metal was heard. A large door on the other side of the room was being slowly lifted up. Underneath it, the blinding sunlight was being reflected by the golden sand. The cries of crowd cheering was heard all throughout the Arena. Three armed men were rushing out of the other doors being opened into the center. MacDougall slowly stepped forwad.

Timsup2nothing, a Retiarius gladiator, threw his net on one of his approaching opponents, sprityo, and hurled his trident at JPIC, the other one.

sprityo was caught in the net and stumbled and fell on the ground. He desperately tried to slash it open.

Meanwhile, JPIC ducked at the last moment and barely managed to dodge Tim's trident. He approached the now unarmed man with his Gladius. But coming from behind, MacDougall tripped him over and bashed his head, rendering him unconscious.

Tim picked up JPIC's weapon and slashed at MacDougall, intending to catch him offguard. However, sprityo who finally managed to set himself free, tackled Tim. The two men wrestled on the ground, blood and sand mixing up all around them. MacDougall approached, grabbed them both by their heads and bashed them against each other, rendering them unconscious.

The crowd roared. "BLOOD. BLOOD. BLOOD. BLOOD. BLOOD. BLOOD" they kept chanting. MacDougall looked around and saw his father, sitting at the center balcony. King JaggedJimmyJay stood up, looked around, and smiled. He put his hand forward and his thumb up. Then slowly rotated the hand downards, resulting in a thumbs down.

MacDougall knew how cruel and merciless his father was. He demanded that he killed one of the other fighters, and if he disobeyed, all would be dead instead.

Timsup2nothing, sprityo and JPIC were all lying unconscious in front of him. MacDougall picked up his sword and looked at it. He had to make a choice.

Which was the right choice? - he asked himself

TO BE CONTINUED

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:56 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:55 am
Spoiler: show
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:39 am Princess Nutella reached for her sheath and put her hand on the handle of her dagger. She pulled it out in an arc, producing a whistling sound in the air.

"How dare you betray me!" she yelled, as she lunged forward, intending to pierce through MacDougall's heart.

Her dagger penetrated through flesh and bones. Blood splattered everywhere.

Shocked, MacDougall came to his senses. He looked downward and he saw Nanook, collapsing on the ground, with a dagger sticking out from his chest. He grabbed the dying man as his tears started running down his cheeks.

"W-w-why ... Nanook ... why?! Please stay with me. You'll be okay ... We will call the apothecary ... you'll be fine ... please don't go!"

Nanook, coughing blood, gathered all his remaining strength to mutter one final thing. "MacDougall .... t-t-these are my final words .... I ... lo-" his eyes turned blank. He passed away.

MacDougall looked at Princess Nutella with fire in his eyes. He lunged forward with the full intent to kill. The last thing he saw were the armored gauntlets of the castle guards grabbing hold of him and knocking him out.

----

MacDougall slowly blinked. The darkness in front of him was starting to fade away. Along with it unfortunately the pain from his bruised face returned. He gasped.

"My own son... My own blood... What a disappointment" - said King JaggedJimmyJay, sitting on his giant golden throne, looking at Prince MacDougall with contempt. "I've given you everything you desire. All the fancy swords and lances, all the fastest horses in the West, all the riches our coffers can offer ... you know how much our kingdom needed that alliance. Your marriage with Princess Nutella was pivotal for the survival of our people. And you threw that away. Thousands of people will suffer as a result of your consequences. Do you have anything to say for yourself?"

Prince MacDougall remained silent. He was looking at his father's eyes, his eyes full of anger and hatred. His pride didn't allow him to utter a word.

"I thought so" said King JaggedJimmyJay with a sigh. "He needs to receive his punishment. Guards, throw him where I instructed you."

A sack was put over MacDougall's head, rendering him unable to see. He was roughly grabbed and forced to walk.

After some time the sack was pulled. The loud echo of a door being slammed was heart. Then, a key being turned, locking it. MacDougall looked around. He was alone in an empty room, dimly lit by the two torches at the sides of the door he came through.

There was a rusty sword, a battered axe, and a splintered old shield. Puzzled, MacDougall pulled out the sword. He remembered the great old days when he used to fence.

Suddenly, the rustling of chains and metal was heard. A large door on the other side of the room was being slowly lifted up. Underneath it, the blinding sunlight was being reflected by the golden sand. The cries of crowd cheering was heard all throughout the Arena. Three armed men were rushing out of the other doors being opened into the center. MacDougall slowly stepped forwad.

Timsup2nothing, a Retiarius gladiator, threw his net on one of his approaching opponents, sprityo, and hurled his trident at JPIC, the other one.

sprityo was caught in the net and stumbled and fell on the ground. He desperately tried to slash it open.

Meanwhile, JPIC ducked at the last moment and barely managed to dodge Tim's trident. He approached the now unarmed man with his Gladius. But coming from behind, MacDougall tripped him over and bashed his head, rendering him unconscious.

Tim picked up JPIC's weapon and slashed at MacDougall, intending to catch him offguard. However, sprityo who finally managed to set himself free, tackled Tim. The two men wrestled on the ground, blood and sand mixing up all around them. MacDougall approached, grabbed them both by their heads and bashed them against each other, rendering them unconscious.

The crowd roared. "BLOOD. BLOOD. BLOOD. BLOOD. BLOOD. BLOOD" they kept chanting. MacDougall looked around and saw his father, sitting at the center balcony. King JaggedJimmyJay stood up, looked around, and smiled. He put his hand forward and his thumb up. Then slowly rotated the hand downards, resulting in a thumbs down.

MacDougall knew how cruel and merciless his father was. He demanded that he killed one of the other fighters, and if he disobeyed, all would be dead instead.

Timsup2nothing, sprityo and JPIC were all lying unconscious in front of him. MacDougall picked up his sword and looked at it. He had to make a choice.

Which was the right choice? - he asked himself

TO BE CONTINUED

what do u think about my reads i think i solved the game dude

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:29 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:26 am what's your result JPIC?
Mac - Town

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:59 am "Nutella, you seem mafia, perhaps you should claim"

"So I have a boat, and each night I have to match someone's character to a song that I randomly guess and if I get it right they go on my boat, and then I can choose whether to try to put someone else on my boat every night or save everyone on my boat."

"JPIC, you seem mafia, perhaps you should claim"

lold

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:25 am I don't really think Nook is lock mafia from that I just felt like reaction testing everyone for a bit.

nice backpedal from embarrassment br0seph, keep 'er goin'

this day is lame, I will be more hyped D3 and willing to play once Tim is flipped.

like I really have nothing to do here, I'll maybe tier down the lists because that seems good practice but other than that there's nothing to do

uhhh I will tone down the activity btw but I'm here in case you need a second opinion even though nobody cares, etc etc, just @ me

doing my due diligence, my services are available if anybody requires them

theory : jpic is a role cop and between alison / mac / hally, the scum team probably decide to off one of them and then check one of the others in order to determine who needs to exit the game first

Idk if I actually believe that but felt compelled to contribute with something, so dwell on that

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:46 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:45 pm wait they fell in love????????
Yeah and then she cheated on him with the wolf team and you can see the betrayal in ted's tone when he posts about her near the end

I have never felt more cheated in my life than in this game

Sniped her anyway, lolnutella

That’s what you get for trying to go for the pocket once again

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:42 am Currently (70-79.9%)-I have a pissy investigative role which I used on Ted that didn't tell me anything useful.

What were you planning to draw out of me by asking the questions that you asked towards me?

You were softing a roleblock, not an investigative.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:31 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:29 am [VOTE: Timsup2nothing ] aubergine
Hey! Here's that other quarter I been waiting for!

@Hally now it's my turn...

How'd your night phase go Ted?

soft better next time /shrug

I think if Mac was notified of a bad action going through on him then it is mechanically correct to just sort in the 3-way.

good luck

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:53 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:51 am I think if Mac was notified of a bad action going through on him then it is mechanically correct to just sort in the 3-way.
Well, he did apparently get post capped by somebody.

Do you think it is mechanically correct to give the claimed alignment cop a night phase or two to get killed by the wolves if he's real?

I don't think he's an alignment cop, I think he's specifically a mafia role cop.

He had Mac as villager, peeking him for alignment makes no sense.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:16 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:15 am Your opener wasn't NAI by my standards. It felt performative.
I was going to make that post regardless of alignment

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:31 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:28 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:26 am I have samu and tutuu as locktown
Got a Mac read? How bout an Alison read?
You’re probably town for changing the state of the game from rvs to serious

Alison might be town. I remember their fight with sprit and it felt like town on town violence

Like what made him change his mind to just say "f it, checking Mac"

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:02 am On the other hand, if I'm a wolf and I know Mac is not a wolf and I know he is solidly town cored I already know I have to NK him. I use my role cop to role fish among the people who are in the "might lurk around for a while but might be a PR" category.

Yeah I know this is the usual, I had a theory saying that the nightkills should be pretty obvious and that wolves probably don't plan to derail the night kills in order to hit PRs. The town core of Hally / Mac / Alison whatever is strong enough that PRs wouldn't really be my issue as a wolf. Jpic could've checked Mac in the hopes of trying to see which is the first kill that goes between him / Hally / Alison in case they hit a good PR among them.

Not really married to that theory, but still, jpic peeking Mac as a "cop" still doesn't make sense.

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