The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:21 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:17 pm jack what's that switch on me? i honestly am starting to wonder about your little jabs as well.

I’m just generally townreading you but haven’t seen a reason you can’t be scum with one or both teams.

As opposed to like Epi, who I think specifically isn’t on either team.

Is there a reason to think you shouldn’t be on either team?

yeah i'm town

like i honestly don't know what answer you wanted here. what's this question achieving. were you expecting to town case myself, i've never done that lmao. it's because i'm so irrational to the point where town casing myself would sell nothing for you and you know it. when have you ever played a game with me and went "off his logic, he's town"? Let's not lie to ourselves, whenever you played with me, the general feeling you got was "is he talking and feeling like a civ here?" or "did he lynch a scum yet?" asking me to make a logical case on myself when people expect to read me off general feeling is

maybe not people here, but you would anyway. and michelle probs

let me do what i do best and that is lynching wolfies and just connect to me on a whole new level, it will be an awesome experience

All of a sudden sprit’s shit town read on me makes a lot more sense now...

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:03 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:55 am All of a sudden sprit’s shit town read on me makes a lot more sense now...

the roles wrote:Bari Artzain - You appear town to alignment checks. *secrets*

Gotcha bitch

i think the actual order is lynch sig and then we see

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 3:33 pm Right now I’m like Jay+Juliets or Sloonei+TH.

Or maybe two of one and one of the other.

The first pairing might be spot on

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 3:50 pm I haven't read back far enough to know what role sprityo hinted at. Can someone just tell me?

he hinted at "the most important role"

which turned out to be lassie

After endless hours of constant probing and self-doubt I think I’m satisfied with this lynch list

Dyslexicon
Epignosis
juliets
Michelle
nutella
S~V~S

Sloonei
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime
sprityo
Tranq
Turnip Head

ColinIsCool
Dom
Dragomir

G-Man
Jackofhearts2005
MacDougall
Master Radishes
NANOOK
sabie12
sig
speedchuck

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:49 am oh ted is probably bad too, right? wasn't he the one that floated that sprit had checked him?

Why would that be a bad thing?

Even as a dead man he still can’t find one post of mine which he allegedly town reads

I didn’t like hard claim it, I assumed it was the case because of his shit town read that he can’t back up still

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:24 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:42 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:49 am oh ted is probably bad too, right? wasn't he the one that floated that sprit had checked him?

Why would that be a bad thing?

Even as a dead man he still can’t find one post of mine which he allegedly town reads

...because there's a baddie who shows up as civ on a check.

Yikes, man.

so you're saying I shouldn't point out how shit sprit's town read on me is and associating it with a cop clear is scummy, just because there is a role that appears green to cop checks?

what if there wasn't one in the list and it was a secret instead? would it still be scummy?

Anyone else feeling like Nanook is trending down quickly?

I have one more school busy day and then I’m free for 1 week cuz of corona.

Sorry for low activity peeps i’ll do better starting tonight

I don’t need babysitters it’s fine

hi jay i'm here and willing to hear why you scum read me

Ok, the juliets push is not what you're painting it to be. I've specifically said I scum read her for claiming she read his ISO but she didn't do the work to point out what about sig's posts have been fake. I said I saw the TMI case as opportunistic coming from her because, even though that was the crux of her case, she kept subtly sweeping under the rug the angle of "AND I also read your ISO and it's shitty, what makes you think I didn't?". Which I *believe* I asked her why she didn't say anything about sig's ISO until that moment, and that is why her vote stood out to me, not because 5 other people picked on it and I just chose Juliets' name out of a lottery, it's because of her burying sig with it while also claiming she had OTHER reasons to scum read him, which SHE NEVER EXPRESSED UPON ISOING HIM.

My point was, if she was genuinely scum reading him from his earlier posts, why has she never confronted him and all of a sudden buries him with this case while also claiming there's additional reasoning for it to reinforce it, although that extra reasoning was never pointed out.

Because juliets leashed out at sig for the case while selling a narrative of "I've been scum reading you up to this point as well, this was just the nail in the coffin" by claiming she also scum read her ISO even though she never commented on any posts. If sig was giving her scum vibes, how come she never pointed out any of his posts / asked him questions?

The 1st one is scattered throughout my ISO, bottom line being sig potentially being lassie. I can expound saying that him pushing the angle of "sprit / dom came into this day swinging at Mac without a reason" initially made me feel as though that's an obvious lassie angle, laying it out on the other people. There are more reasons, I can look at them maybe but I don't really see why that would be relevant.

yeah you're right juliets, my mental map misinterpreted stuff. you did say something that i twisted as saying that, which is this post.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:03 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:06 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:41 pm I don't see anyone pointing out a flaw in Dizzy's logic so I'm voting. Normally I would wait to hear from sig but this looks black and white to me. I can't think of an explanation that would make this go away.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Can't think of any explanation.......But doesn't bother to finish ISO.

Again mac teammates rushing onto another wagon.

Who said I didn't finish your ISO? I read the whole thing. The point Dizzy made that I say I can't think of an explanation for was the point that I quoted where you spoke about Mac being targeted for the kill as the only option for what happened and why he wouldn't have been protected or wasn't the civ. You acted as if you knew it was him that was targeted and not someone else who could have been protected or was the civ. You spoke from the POV that he was targeted. From Dizzy's analysis:

When SVS suggests that the no kill on N1 may have been for many reasons, Sig answers with the knowledge that Mac was the actual kill target.

Read it. Sig says he doubts the protective role would target Mac (so that couldn't be the reason why the kill failed.) And then Sig says that he considered that Mac could be the civ role, but that he thinks that Mac is just much more likely mafia (again revealing that Mac was targeted for a NK.)

And trying to intimidate me by calling me a Mac teammate when I vote for you looks desperate.

i took the rhetorical there as you claiming that, I kind of saw it and reacted to it and that's how it remained in my head. which is why I kept saying i'd keep coming back to you and cfd you and stuff.

hi michelle let's talk

i don't like the first half of tsp's post.

you shading michelle

Don't know if this was addressed, but I was thinking...If sig potentially designed the levels, would he have risked sending the anti-monitor in the main thread , the only place where lynched people die?

I don't think AM was in the same thread as him, because I think he'd grow weary of this theory being paid attention to. So right now I kind of want to sort in the other level. Anyone got a list with who was there? i want to iso sumthin'

ok i assume that's the list i wanted to look in cuz i remember that account telling us tsp and someone else was with sig

i think, ultimately, sig would've used the 3 man level for shading and bet on this very wifom. if we bit it, it takes a 50/50 to lynch his anti-monitor which would seem dumb from him.

I don't know if he'd risk it by putting him in main thread, so I think that he'd just place him in Michelle's hood thing.

I'll take a look at those peeps. But names that stick out upon PoE and shit are probably JJJ / Gman / Speed

I thought th’s list was a town list

I’m voting TH secretly and still reviewing Colin / speed / jay

I kind of not want to go over a 500 post ISO though, I think if I get to live til later I’ll just PoE jay out

am really low on energy, string me up and find mafia. sad none of colin and th flipped bad and now i'm aware i'm next.

re juliets' question : her play style seemed weird, it was a thought like at the beginning of the game which was like 3 weeks ago or so, I honestly don't remember. she just *felt* off but now she seems to be back on normal levels.

i was saying she felt different from her town game.

i guess she played in a deflective kind of way and her engagements seemed to be omgusy off the top of my head, but there's a very concrete way of me discerning her town as opposed to scum, and she didn't feel like scum although a lot of her engagements weren't indicative of her town play, i kind of connected the dots and said indie because she seemed to care more about how she appeared and directly confronting people made me conclude she was indie rather than a null, idk.

the overall theme to her posts was "why are you accusing me?" but for some reason i didn't read it as scum.

i don't see any reason for why he'd be town but nobody wants to push him and i honestly can't be bothered to tunnel him for another day phase without any backup and me not being listened to.

i usually don't come back to lynches that haven't took off when they should've.

i don't think dom's scum here, i can read him like a book.

he's gonna get pissed at this.

I already theorised as to sig designing each level and the players that could've been found in them. I decided to drop it because, upon flips, he might've actually just placed him in the main thread, because the thread had a consensus among 3 players that we had just flipped town, so the AM must've really fucked up in order to become a target.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:05 am Don't know if this was addressed, but I was thinking...If sig potentially designed the levels, would he have risked sending the anti-monitor in the main thread , the only place where lynched people die?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:14 am ok i assume that's the list i wanted to look in cuz i remember that account telling us tsp and someone else was with sig

i think, ultimately, sig would've used the 3 man level for shading and bet on this very wifom. if we bit it, it takes a 50/50 to lynch his anti-monitor which would seem dumb from him.

I don't know if he'd risk it by putting him in main thread, so I think that he'd just place him in Michelle's hood thing.

I'll take a look at those peeps. But names that stick out upon PoE and shit are probably JJJ / Gman / Speed

[mention]Michelle[/mention]

In a world where sig is not told about whether this inception phase ends after one lynch, he has all the incentive to place himself in the 3rd realm.

Like, think about the actual odds of it. Let's say...Sig was not in full control of how the threads were designed. Okay, the odds of him being in the 3rd level are 3/17 which rounds up to 18% or so. (I could be wrong about the total number of players, I believe it was 17?)

Was he hit by pure luck here? :thonk:

By all means I'm not saying it to suggest Michelle is scum (I don't think she is) I just kind of want to clarify this, being useful, etc etc. 18% odds. Think mathematically.

If sig was the Architect and was going to die, he'd want to stall it as much as possible. 3 phases before he dies.

So, I believe he did have control over the threads, the actual important question here is : Did he know that this inception phase only lasts one phase?

Not to mention, I don't see a point for sig's role unless he had that choice. It's essentially a, what? Dice roll that escapes you one lynch? you have to dice roll for it? sounds unlikely.

Speed, G-Man on masters team

Because the others are pretty town. It’s a combo of that and them not doing anything that screams town to me.

They’re just PoE.

They’re the least town.

If someone that doesn’t misconstrue my actions according to their bias wants to talk, then @ me.

I wasn’t even chasing an anti-monitor lead. I’ve talked about G-man being a suspect and was trying to convey that i’d want him lynched, even if I said I was drained because I wasn’t being backed up. That’s not hunting anti-monitor, that’s accusing scummy people.

Not like I pushed an anti-monitor lead on anyone, I just like discussing mechanics and unsolving mysteries. I’ve done next to nothing and I wanted something to get me back in this game, which was solving this mech thing sig PoV. I like doing it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:52 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:48 pm They’re the least town.

I feel like I am talking to a mouse.

*meep*

I need good questions to work with. Bring the cheese to this damn mouse or I’m not buying.

This mouse shouldn’t waste his time negotiating with the human that wants him trapped up anyway.

I just said the mech thing was merely for me to uncover this mystery and helping people like Sloonei look into their theory and update it based on what I inferred. It’s a win win deal. You’re misconstruing it to be me hunting for the anti-monitor when I haven’t even accused anyone of being an anti-monitor.

Take me out to dinner first, let’s take it step by step. And while we’re at it, maybe explain how that’s the worst sentence?

It’s not, I’m shifting the idea that you’re creating about me doing it to hunt the Anti Monitor to the actual idea of me trying to regain the energy and getting re-invested into the game by solving some “mathematical equation” or I guess, a puzzle. And I’ve already specified it, but you’re not even reading my posts because you just want my head on a pogo stick.

Which is also why I’m not answering any of your inquiries anymore. Sorry, date’s over.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:34 am [VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

Because the needle never moved on him yesterday.

What is this even saying? What are your thoughts on G-Man and why am I a better lynch than him?

you know i never do that. if you think i'm scummier than g-man, then vote accordingly.