The Syndicate

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:11 pm

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:13 pm Dear mafia.

I am here to fuck on you.

oi mac

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:29 pm so fun thing I just thought of, if the mafia captain picked likely they did not pick "traditional mafia powerhouses" because that would be obvs as fuck as soon as one flipped.

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:30 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:28 pm Rolecop is just not a Town role people. Alexa basically claiming Mafia.

i never claimed rolecop and why TF would i out like that?

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:30 pm Debating to myself if it’s worth tunneling this game or if it’s better to not get invested so it stings less when I’m probably right

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:31 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:29 pm so fun thing I just thought of, if the mafia captain picked likely they did not pick "traditional mafia powerhouses" because that would be obvs as fuck as soon as one flipped.

Yeah, agreed

I think people like Alexa would be too obvious of a pick, plus alexa is outside of her scumrange rn anyways

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:32 pm The more I read on- and I am going to try to stay on top of things on D1- but I have 300 MB of Wi-Fi left on this stupid ship and need to be selective with how long I spend on here.

So.

If anyone desperately needs pressing reads from me, @ me.

For now. Based on up to pg5, Guillo is not town.

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine

Also I am a bird. Cuhcaw

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:32 pm I don't really get the LinearPoint wagon and I think they're town unless I'm missing stuff that a mere mortal like me can't comprehend.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:32 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:31 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:26 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:02 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:59 pm i do wish this hadn't happened and alexa had kept it to herself because now wolves might be able to narrow down the kind of role i have but ah well

i think it's likely enough she just didnt realize roles and alignment were likely independent of each other

Alexa don't make those kinds of mistakes.

But maybe I should stop holding her to higher standards than everyone else now that I think about it.

WHAT?????

LMAO IVE MESSED UP AS PR LIKE EVERY GAME

if this is a serious read please give proof you mean it/have witnessed it

@Guillotine

Yah let me materialize deleted dead and scum chats, please hold.

hai guillo, are you town?

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:33 pm P&G is quickly becoming my favourite person I just met today.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:34 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:46 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:54 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:08 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:06 pm HENLO SYNDIKATTS! I HAVE MISSED YOU

Holy fuxk, now the party can begin

This is scum

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine

why?

I dont buy their excitement for hk, town!falcon is never pocketie like this

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:34 pm

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:31 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:30 pm Debating to myself if it’s worth tunneling this game or if it’s better to not get invested so it stings less when I’m probably right

u wolfing again bikky boiii?

Whose this?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:35 pm Im sad Mac is not in this game, how can there be a Champions without him

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:35 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:34 pm I trust autistic with my life. I think they caught linear on basically nothing and (she?) has been flailing on defense. Probably because she feels slighted that others have drowned her in votes.

You trust who?

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:41 pm

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:40 pm too many people trying to derp clear themselves off me here lol

wouldn't it only be a derp clear if you're mafia

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:41 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:38 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:37 pm Mac is obviously Phil and Gloria

I read that as "Mac is obviously Phil Collins" and yeah, I can dig it

@MacDougall - you saw it with your own two eyes and are still not outing the wolf.

Why?

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:42 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:47 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

This is extremely NAI for Creature

Are the other parts of my case NAI for him, too?

I think it's way too early to write such a monster of a post--if you have so much to write against him/his slot right now, it's probably coming from a place of wolfy over-eagerness to project town or otherwise control the game.

Lock 112 as town all the way until lylo

112 c4 creature

These are almost never wolves

Alexa

Would be very surprised if she’s a wolf but most likely is town like 90+ % of the time here. This approach she’s taking would only be tailored to fool me if she’s mafia but idt she would do that in a lobby this big

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:43 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:41 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:38 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:37 pm Mac is obviously Phil and Gloria

I read that as "Mac is obviously Phil Collins" and yeah, I can dig it

@MacDougall - you saw it with your own two eyes and are still not outing the wolf.

Why?

I can answer that: Phil Collins is a GOAT and Mac should be honored.

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:47 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:48 pm Based off first 2 pages Alexa hk c4 falcon pinged me as towny

Does anyone know roughly what the breakup of alignments is on this just so I know how generous I can be with trs? Is it like a mash where 1/4 is mafia roughly

okay i townread this

@ilario it's stated in OP that there's 7 wolves exactly and at least 1 3P

i didn't realize until MR made a comment about mechs earlier so i feel like this is a towny mindset

7 feels so little? Probably multiple 3ps then

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:49 pm

Paopan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:47 pm I am a simple person spreading love.

Anyway,
LP talking from a 3rd person PoV seems new. I'd classified it as NAI at best.
But at this point. I don't see any AtE coming from him. So that's -1 credits coming from Paopan

Neeko wanted to try something new. Best not to read into it.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:58 pm

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:30 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:29 pm so fun thing I just thought of, if the mafia captain picked likely they did not pick "traditional mafia powerhouses" because that would be obvs as fuck as soon as one flipped.

lol this is a mafia captain game and they didn't pick me?

that narrows the pool quite dramatically lol.

Look, I just didn't realise it was you. Can you ever forgive me?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:59 pm Mac's entrance is unimpressive. He remains firmly in my suspect pool.

@LinearPoint What is your opinion on my Creature case? You've been very absorbed with the alexa/nutella stuff. I'd like your view on other parts of the game.

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:00 am

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:59 pm @alexa is there any chance nutella is the captain?

i would have no idea if that was the case and no way to know

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:02 am Alison is prolly scum

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:02 am Mac is spewed clear by the sheer number of people who don't realize he's even in this game

40% serious take

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:05 am

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:47 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:42 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:47 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

This is extremely NAI for Creature

Are the other parts of my case NAI for him, too?

I think it's way too early to write such a monster of a post--if you have so much to write against him/his slot right now, it's probably coming from a place of wolfy over-eagerness to project town or otherwise control the game.

Lock 112 as town all the way until lylo

112 c4 creature

These are almost never wolves

Alexa

Would be very surprised if she’s a wolf but most likely is town like 90+ % of the time here. This approach she’s taking would only be tailored to fool me if she’s mafia but idt she would do that in a lobby this big

I didn't know you were a bluekang alt

hold up lemme bring out the font 7

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:08 am Creature seems too easy. Too obvious. Occam’s razor and all that

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:11 am

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:09 am I appreciate you Alison

I have not vibed with you at all this game. Why?

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:10 am I either wanna kill Scotty or ignore my instincts entirely and towncore him... fellow towncore what do?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:13 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm Here is my case on Creature.

All of Creature's posts so far can be divided into one of three categories: useless fluff, attempting to derpclear himself for silly reasons, and "flame fanning".

Category 1: Useless Fluff

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Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:22 pm Why does the game always start when I'm the most low energy?

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:32 pm Wow this got intense so quick

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:33 pm Is this game by any chance bastard? I didn't check before joining

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:11 pmWho is Neeko?

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:12 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:11 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:49 pm Would much rather just be mafia in bastard games

I think you are.

I'm not mafia and this makes your push on me even more annoying

These posts go beyond the usual RVS horsing around (although we are well out of RVS now). These are posts that show a clear lack of interest in the progression of the game. His questions are flat, shallow, and in many cases could have been easily answered by glancing at the OP. He is more interested in looking like he is around and engaging with the game than actually being around and engaging with the game. He had a ripe opportunity to engage with me about my push on him, and he responded by going "I'm not mafia, I'm annoyed now, go away". I don't get the sense that he cares whether or not I am town misreading him or scum trying to get him killed, and this is especially concerning because in my last scum game I tried to get him killed early on.

I believe him when he says he is low energy. Take note that being low energy and unable to meaningfully engage with the game is a classic Creature scumtell.

Category 2: Attempting to derpclear himself for silly reasons

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Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:51 pm I want the guilty on nutella to be legit

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:34 pm Is soup kill a thing?

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:49 pm Would much rather just be mafia in bastard games

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:06 pm Wait I think the existence of a mafia captain should almost clear me from ever being picked as mafia this game

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:07 pm Unless you want to argue that I'm 3p here? But would be better to seek for the seven mafia first.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:15 pm If I was mafia captain I would choose players tbh even if it is not mechanically optimal. I would much rather have an enjoyable team to play with.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:15 pm I know I'd never be picked by the mafia captain if they chose players over roles

Creature makes an excessive number of posts attempting to insinuate that he is town, or in some way get people to "angleshoot" him as being town due to his lack of knowledge about the game mechanics or the inner workings of the mafia ("is there a soup kill?"). But a town Creature who genuinely wanted to know would just check the OP; asking in thread serves no purpose except to try to get people to falsely read him as town. He is aware that he struggles to gain the trust of the town when he is mafia, and he is cheaply attempting to earn this towncred through derptells and "townslips".

Take note that he is trying to convince the game repeatedly that the mafia captain chose players rather than roles. If he is town, he has no reason to believe that the mafia captain chose players over roles. I, personally, have reason to believe that the mafia captain chose roles. I think nutella is much townier than her scum self would be, and as I have argued, a town nutella implies a town Alexa. I know I am town, and I do not think a mafia captain who picked players would pass over both me and Alexa. So this attempt to convince the town - with no evidence whatsoever - that the mafia captain picked players reeks of agenda-pushing to me.

Finally, I want to highlight this line: "Unless you want to argue that I'm 3p here? But would be better to seek for the seven mafia first." Nobody has accused him of being 3P. It comes completely out of the blue, and reads almost as though he is self-aware of his own scumminess and is trying to hang a lampshade of it. I don't think it's a line that would flow naturally from a townie's mouth.

Category 3: Flame Fanning

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Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:33 pm lol if nutella is salty alexa caught her n0

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:07 pm lol if the alexa/nutella w/w theory is right

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:18 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:17 pm early take is that Seanzie is probably wolfing imo

Thought I was the only one seeing it

LinearPoint has been accused of fanning the flames. I think Creature is even more guilty of this sin. In his ISO of 19 posts (at the time I wrote this case), Creature utters provocative lines, egging on the suspicions of townies towards each other, three separate times. They are quoted in the spoilers above. Note that he first eggs on the "Alexa has a red check on nutella" narrative, then switches to "Alexa and nutella are wolves together". These narratives are contradictory. Creature does not have an opinion of his own; he just encourages whatever happens to be the prevailing opinion or thread sentiment at the time. This is strongly opportunistic, and this opportunism is exemplified even further by his agreement with 112 that Seanzie is wolfing. How is Seanzie being wolfy? Why has he not brought up this scumread on Seanzie before, if he thought he was the only one seeing it? In fact, if he thinks Seanzie is a wolf and fooling everyone except him, why would he keep quiet about it until someone else brings it up, at which point he eagerly jumps on the bandwagon? Answer: because he is nakedly taking advantage of 112's suspicion to push Seanzie.

At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

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Please vote Creature.

jfc Alison you came to play. I take it you aren't the Gambit Demon this go around?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:18 am

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:14 am jfc Alison you came to play

Hi who are you? Some sort of sock?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:24 am 112/Mac/ilario w/w/w howbowdah