The Syndicate

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c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:05 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:04 pm imgay
Do I win something

yes, a vig shot

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

i have a n0 guilty on nutella, let's go

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:24 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:21 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

i have a n0 guilty on nutella, let's go
should have waited for her to post for a while then revealed.

yes maybe but i'm impatient

it's just "town" or "non-town" so technically she could be 3P but she is non-town

imagine being a coward and soupkilling the gambit demon instead of trying to go deep and get the power offered to you instead

ftr i do not believe that radish claim, because i don't think he'd risk it w/soup

anyways can we vote my n0 red

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:42 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:41 pm ftr i do not believe that radish claim, because i don't think he'd risk it w/soup
(It's Alison's claim from last year's GOC.)

lmao

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:46 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:42 pm anyways can we vote my n0 red
I will if you show me a TS game that had a N0 redcheck last year.

i've played like 3 TS games so no can do bronana

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:51 pm I want the guilty on nutella to be legit

it is

this game has experimental mechanics

hi dizzy

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:53 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

no

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:54 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:53 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:53 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine
no
Why no/do you know why yes

i assume you thought the "i want the guilty to be real" comment was sus but it felt real to me from creature

Town:
HK
Falcon
C4
Guillo

Maf:
Nutella (non-town checked)

good start~

i almost put creature in town but not quite there yet

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:02 pm Anyway, let's just policy chop, like, Mac or Alison.

If one flips wolf then the captain chose their team.

Ez clap.

captain?

i should read the mechanics shouldn't i

apparently there was a mafia captain who could either choose roles or players. i wasn't chosen so they must've picked roles 8)

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:11 pm
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esta es una mafia

unfortunately i've already caught you n0

maybe nutella is 3P

but they are definitely non-town

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:25 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:22 pm maybe nutella is 3P

but they are definitely non-town
why are you 3P hunting? 3P and Mafia are both scum and must die, what's the difference?

The difference is that they might more of a threat to scum than to us.

Right Alexa?

i'm not 3P hunting, i'm simply stating that i have a check on nutella that states she isn't town

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:28 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:27 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:25 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:22 pm maybe nutella is 3P

but they are definitely non-town
why are you 3P hunting? 3P and Mafia are both scum and must die, what's the difference?

The difference is that they might more of a threat to scum than to us.

Right Alexa?
i'm not 3P hunting, i'm simply stating that i have a check on nutella that states she isn't town
Why not Mafia though? If you got not-town why not Mafia?
OP says 1 3rd Party roles is in the game.

bruh she could be mafia

i've said she's mafia or 3p

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:28 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:27 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:25 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:22 pm maybe nutella is 3P

but they are definitely non-town
why are you 3P hunting? 3P and Mafia are both scum and must die, what's the difference?

The difference is that they might more of a threat to scum than to us.

Right Alexa?
i'm not 3P hunting, i'm simply stating that i have a check on nutella that states she isn't town
Do you hard claim this? If you do I have the means to kill her now.

don't kill her yet

there's a chance she is town it is not exactly a red check i won't know for sure until tomorrow or the next day

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:31 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:30 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:28 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:27 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:25 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:22 pm maybe nutella is 3P

but they are definitely non-town
why are you 3P hunting? 3P and Mafia are both scum and must die, what's the difference?

The difference is that they might more of a threat to scum than to us.

Right Alexa?
i'm not 3P hunting, i'm simply stating that i have a check on nutella that states she isn't town
Do you hard claim this? If you do I have the means to kill her now.
don't kill her yet
Why not? She is not town as you claim.

ok so

essentially i have info on her role and it's not a town role (i didn't think)

but her reaction to this is kind of towny so i'm not sure

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:33 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:31 pm there's a chance she is town it is not exactly a red check i won't know for sure until tomorrow or the next day
Alexa! You made me claim! Tell me why I shouldn't shoot you right now?

because that would be very bad

and she could still be mafia it's just not a red

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

i'm not outing it when there's soup

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:37 pm Nutella and Alexa are wolves together.

It does not make sense that Alexa peeks Nutella as not town, claims specifically that Nutella is not town and then advocates to not kill her and then Nutella sort of excusing her is also sus.

bruh

i didn't think that nutella's role was a town role and ik scum has a soup so i went about my claim that way (now i'm likely to get souped but w/e)

her reaction to it just makes me think i could be wrong

guillo is v yes

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:40 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:37 pm Nutella and Alexa are wolves together.

It does not make sense that Alexa peeks Nutella as not town, claims specifically that Nutella is not town and then advocates to not kill her and then Nutella sort of excusing her is also sus.
This actually makes sense.

what? how?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:42 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:39 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:37 pm Nutella and Alexa are wolves together.

It does not make sense that Alexa peeks Nutella as not town, claims specifically that Nutella is not town and then advocates to not kill her and then Nutella sort of excusing her is also sus.
bruh

i didn't think that nutella's role was a town role and ik scum has a soup so i went about my claim that way (now i'm likely to get souped but w/e)

her reaction to it just makes me think i could be wrong
Yah you are a wolf because you wouldn't claim or soft your role knowing there is a soup kill to my pressure and only my pressure as town.

What a way to "distance" from each other, one of the worst attempts I have ever witnessed tbhtbh. Mafia should have picked me instead, now you gals just get wrecked.

why the heck wouldn't i soft it thinking i caught a wolf/non-town this early? also look at my posts, i claimed way before you "pressured" so that doesn't make sense and is just egotistical

i'm insulted you'd think i'd pull such an awful stunt with a partner

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:42 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:41 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:40 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:37 pm Nutella and Alexa are wolves together.

It does not make sense that Alexa peeks Nutella as not town, claims specifically that Nutella is not town and then advocates to not kill her and then Nutella sort of excusing her is also sus.
This actually makes sense.
what? how?
Honestly Nutella saying that yeah her role is not normally Town and you pushing to lynch her to back off quickly seems like a team.
IDK it's TvT or SvS. No real inbetween.

[VOTE: linearpoint] aubergine

does not feel like a real read

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:48 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:45 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:42 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:39 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:37 pm Nutella and Alexa are wolves together.

It does not make sense that Alexa peeks Nutella as not town, claims specifically that Nutella is not town and then advocates to not kill her and then Nutella sort of excusing her is also sus.
bruh

i didn't think that nutella's role was a town role and ik scum has a soup so i went about my claim that way (now i'm likely to get souped but w/e)

her reaction to it just makes me think i could be wrong
Yah you are a wolf because you wouldn't claim or soft your role knowing there is a soup kill to my pressure and only my pressure as town.

What a way to "distance" from each other, one of the worst attempts I have ever witnessed tbhtbh. Mafia should have picked me instead, now you gals just get wrecked.
why the heck wouldn't i soft it thinking i caught a wolf/non-town this early? also look at my posts, i claimed way before you "pressured" so that doesn't make sense and is just egotistical

i'm insulted you'd think i'd pull such an awful stunt with a partner
Feel insulted then because I got high expectations from a champion quality player like yourself, you are gonna tell me you claim a peek at day start instead of waiting for the game to progress and form reads based on the info you got? Really?

No

i claimed it daystart because

1. i thought it was a red but it wasn't a "real" peek

2. i thought her reaction to it could move the needle one way or the other

if it was a real 100% peek i wouldn't have claimed it that fast

but i'm also not the best mechanical player so maybe it was a mistake, but that's what i thought was best. i obviously didn't anticipate your role and it's not fair to expect i would

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:54 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:49 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:48 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:45 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:42 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:39 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:37 pm Nutella and Alexa are wolves together.

It does not make sense that Alexa peeks Nutella as not town, claims specifically that Nutella is not town and then advocates to not kill her and then Nutella sort of excusing her is also sus.
bruh

i didn't think that nutella's role was a town role and ik scum has a soup so i went about my claim that way (now i'm likely to get souped but w/e)

her reaction to it just makes me think i could be wrong
Yah you are a wolf because you wouldn't claim or soft your role knowing there is a soup kill to my pressure and only my pressure as town.

What a way to "distance" from each other, one of the worst attempts I have ever witnessed tbhtbh. Mafia should have picked me instead, now you gals just get wrecked.
why the heck wouldn't i soft it thinking i caught a wolf/non-town this early? also look at my posts, i claimed way before you "pressured" so that doesn't make sense and is just egotistical

i'm insulted you'd think i'd pull such an awful stunt with a partner
Feel insulted then because I got high expectations from a champion quality player like yourself, you are gonna tell me you claim a peek at day start instead of waiting for the game to progress and form reads based on the info you got? Really?

No
i claimed it daystart because

1. i thought it was a red but it wasn't a "real" peek

2. i thought her reaction to it could move the needle one way or the other

if it was a real 100% peek i wouldn't have claimed it that fast

but i'm also not the best mechanical player so maybe it was a mistake, but that's what i thought was best. i obviously didn't anticipate your role and it's not fair to expect i would
And you think that my Vig claim is real? It was pressure, town-you would tell me to shoot not-town nutella baby, you know this, you wouldn't hesitate. Either you both are wolves or you are a wolf who knows nutella is town and you know you'd be chopped if I shot Nutella due to your "Not-Town" peek.

what part of i thought nutella role was non-town but realized i may be wrong don't you understand?

town!me had info that i realized may be wrong after reading her reaction to my claim

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:02 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:59 pm i do wish this hadn't happened and alexa had kept it to herself because now wolves might be able to narrow down the kind of role i have but ah well

i think it's likely enough she just didnt realize roles and alignment were likely independent of each other
Alexa don't make those kinds of mistakes.

But maybe I should stop holding her to higher standards than everyone else now that I think about it.

WHAT?????

LMAO IVE MESSED UP AS PR LIKE EVERY GAME

if this is a serious read please give proof you mean it/have witnessed it

@Guillotine

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:02 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:00 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:16 pmLinearpoint maf
You have very disagreeable takes this game.
guillotine is prob town but still a decent d1 kill
or he would be if linearpoint weren't obviously 100% totally outed with a fairly obvious scumslip that i don't think anyone else has properly noticed yet

@Urist where?

also Alison's opening posts feel towny especially #295

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:29 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:23 pm
I think you're being overly generous if you assume early posts aren't serious.

LinearPoint's post about why it might be s/s was full of bad logic IMO. I thought about writing a post pointing out how none of the alignment conclusions actually follow from the things stated before them, but decided against it (but don't remember why I decided against it).

I did not piggyback off Urist's post. I did ask him if he saw the same thing as me, but he didn't answer me. You literally said the post that I voted LinearPoint over was bad, so are you piggybacking?
To be honest, Neeko doesn't follow what you are saying right now as it doesn't makes sense to her.

Nothing wrong with the logic imo. Mafia would have chosen N0 rolecop if given the option.
Alexa is claiming N0 rolecop.
Rolecop is very useful to Mafia. So Alexa is probably just Mafia.
Mafia if given N0 rolecop wouldn't just post their result ergo Alexa's check is probably fake.
Ergo Nutella is probably also Mafia. They both also seemed to drop the whole thunderdome extremely quickly and town read each other.

Logic for it being SvS seems pretty damn solid.

im not claiming specifically rolecop or anything. my role is more complicated and i wouldn't claim it that precisely with soup. i'm claiming i have details on nutella's role and that's it

@LinearPoint please explain to me why nook gives mafia a rolecop + a soup kill? and why i as mafia would out that information right away if i'm literally their role cop? that makes no sense and the role makes way more sense as town (even if i'm not claiming that specific role i really don't get your logic)

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:38 pm Didn't you do something like this last game when you were mafia?

who is this directed @

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:40 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm @LinearPoint please explain to me why nook gives mafia a rolecop + a soup kill? and why i as mafia would out that information right away if i'm literally their role cop? that makes no sense and the role makes way more sense as town (even if i'm not claiming that specific role i really don't get your logic)
Mafia Rolecop is just good role? Neeko would pick Mafia Rolecop over other roles.
Not sure what else you want?

N0? with a soup? if they have anything and it's more than 1 shot that's extremely overpowered.

#286

i think urist is town

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:48 pm Based off first 2 pages Alexa hk c4 falcon pinged me as towny

Does anyone know roughly what the breakup of alignments is on this just so I know how generous I can be with trs? Is it like a mash where 1/4 is mafia roughly

okay i townread this

@ilario it's stated in OP that there's 7 wolves exactly and at least 1 3P

i didn't realize until MR made a comment about mechs earlier so i feel like this is a towny mindset

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:17 pm early take is that Seanzie is probably wolfing imo

Sabie had an odd opener but i haven't read any additional posts from her

why?

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:52 pm Guillo feels tonally off to me and his vote on falcon was pingy

i didn't agree with his vote on falcon at all and it came when falcon was one of my first townleans but i don't think accuracy is a towntell for guillo? the way he came in guns ablazing to me and his approach to my stuff on nutella felt like that i expect of town guillo but uh... i'm aware i may not be able to read him

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:23 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:20 pm For real though, alexa and nutella are doing nothing to dissuade my pre-game assumption that all or most of alexa/nutella/mac/alison are chosen wolves.

Let's get chopping.
nobody would choose me as a wolf lmao
What? How’s this work? Did wolves get to choose their team? Or just a few players

apparently there is a wolf captain and they either have the option to choose 6 people OR to choose all the mafia roles

also did not realize this

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:56 pm Can people stop posting fake derps for ten seconds please

tbh i do not think waza is faking this, based on what i know of him, like it's not something he can easily fake, but maybe i'm biased because i'm a villager and i was confused too by people's initial comments and just didn't read the OP remotely

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:02 pm I’m giving you guys a freebie on one of my tells Since people struggle so hard to meta me lol even though I don’t think my meta should be that confusing but apparently it is

i just said you were town for this the 2 posts before lmao

gut/godread on his first posts says TSP town but this is not solid

i liked guillotine's opening but the one thing that did ping me was him saying that he expected better of my play/i don't make those kinds of mistakes as it's just ???? objectively false and i thought he got better with my meta. so yeah maybe that + waza's read, i would drop him from my previous towncore rn.

i have a hard time wrapping my head around cases in early game because all my reads are micro/vibe reads but i'm trying to read it.

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