The Syndicate

@Urist Are they mad you aren't voting me yet?

is everyone that can voting?

Cream&Cannoli Enterprises wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:49 pm By that very same logic, srceenplay should be townreading Urist, who agrees with him on stuff. Yet srceenplay is voting Urist.

Thats not apples to oranges.
Thats apples to steak.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:01 am
srceenplay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:42 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:07 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:41 am Honestly 24 hours isn't much time to work with for day 1, so I'm more just wanting to to get something going and getting people to do stuff.
TBH I'm not really opposed to lynching myself just because the fact so many people have given reads on me to the point where It's probably advantages just to get connections.
I'm not 100% sure about Gavial, but I'm leaning a more towards it being Mafia, though I want to see a proper response from him about my accusation to really be able to tell.
If this doesn’t fuckin scream town.
Y’all are nuts!

Do me a favour though LP and vote someone for CW because I don’t wanna lose you.
How the hell is “town” OK dying an obvious town play? More like scumy play on emotions.

Are you two both scum distancing?
Screenplay matching my opinion. I like it.

Not exactly "I agree"

*clap

srceenplay :3 20%
Voters: nutella, Gavial, Cream&Cannoli Enterprises

Urist: 5 33%
Voters: tedxtr, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, NotAnAxehole, srceenplay, fingersplints

When your happy and you know it clam your hands

If everyone says post are bad they are probably bad but I also think that just makes me LHF

Going through nuts iso it looks like they keep putting votes on urist but unmeaningful. Feels fake to me. eod yesterday they talk about vote urist and swith to voting out a nobody. (I dislike all that did that.
I can see nut and urist as w/w

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:55 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:55 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:54 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:53 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:48 pm linearpoint srceenplay paopan cream&cannoli are all new to me
New to you but the only person you want to try and push were ALL the others whom I am not new to say don't. hmm...
...what
Hes new to you

The people he isn't new to (ie, me, urist, axe) say he's town or probably town

You push him anyways
Hmm...

THX

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:48 pm linearpoint srceenplay paopan cream&cannoli are all new to me

New to you but the only person you want to try and push were ALL the others whom I am not new to say don't. hmm...

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:08 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:03 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:05 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:02 pm Sushi always goes bad quickly, probably was the Sushi.
This person is fo sure bad
The first lesson of playing with srceenplay is that yes, the R does come before the C

The second lesson is to sheep srceenplay

srceenplay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:04 pm I’ll just pretend that votes are permanent. [VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine
sounds good [VOTE: linearpoint] aubergine

@Gavial were does this play into Nanook and my interaction about LP?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:37 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:01 am does nutella just take the foot off the gas pedal on syndicate nowadays? it's interesting to me nobody raised a scum read on her, especially urist if he's a villager. maybe he didn't play with her much.

i'm assuming this is the case since somebody must have said something otherwise, but i wanna double check
ive been pretty chill lately yeah, really trying to take a break from high investment in games

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:40 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:05 am @DrWilgy can you write some words on why you keep coming back to nook?

(soon pay)
Flip through Nook's ISO.

I think the best way to describe the Nook read is that it feels like alot of his posts are dissuasive. If there's a wolf in those who claimed I was town during RVS, this is what makes me feel that it's Nook.

The dynamic between Nook and NAA is weird, but that may be NAI when it comes to Nook.
a lot of stuff is nai for nook tbh

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:05 am Vote Srceenplay and if they flip Town you ahead and go for Nanook/Urist tomorrow but if they Flip Red just confirm Nanook as Town and just push Urist tomorrow.
i'm really not as confident as you are about all these associatives lol, i just think srceen is wolfy

and you voted urist but now are on me when we have a split-ish wagon

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:23 am
srceenplay wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:57 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:03 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:01 am I think I sold myself on the Nook vote.

If Nook flips red, it can't be Screen or Urist as it's likely Nook + Nut where Urist Nut isn't W/W.
Yes but it’s more likely Srceenplay based on their Day 1 play?
Also Srceenplay!Red Confirms Nanook!Green.

Srceenplay is also a more dangerous wolf to keep around later then Nanook is if I’m being honest.
You are giving me way to much credit.

How do I confirm Nanook either way?
Because Nanook doesn’t ask you who you think is scum and then that person (LP) becomes top wagon due to it if your both scum.
It’d be opposite alignment or both town.
But I doubt your both town.

Are you saying it by mine or Nanook actions that made LP a top wagon? Thats 2 votes. Mine didn't even count until later when I figured out voting in thread doesnt matter the poll does.
I'm going to argue the 2 context less votes don't create top wagons

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:16 am @DrWilgy
Would you rather vote Wolf!Srceenplay now while you have a chance or wait till late game where they can stack a double vote on you or some other town?

What’s Nanook gonna do? Nanook sure isn’t Mafia PR unless he’s the Roleblocker which is basically useless but would also makes sense to why I’m alive so Roleblocker on anyone is still probable but I Srceenplay is more scary then Nanook.

If you are doctor and still alive it's because you are being RB and there is no double voter.
Also implies that mafia does not find you as a threat and thinks you will hurt town more than help them.
Re-evaluate

you are also making all of these could be can't be teams from the 451 guys, but remember all the 451 guys are calling me town.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:03 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:01 am I think I sold myself on the Nook vote.

If Nook flips red, it can't be Screen or Urist as it's likely Nook + Nut where Urist Nut isn't W/W.
Yes but it’s more likely Srceenplay based on their Day 1 play?
Also Srceenplay!Red Confirms Nanook!Green.

Srceenplay is also a more dangerous wolf to keep around later then Nanook is if I’m being honest.

You are giving me way to much credit.

How do I confirm Nanook either way?

[VOTE: Urist] aubergine

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:23 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:23 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:22 pm
Cream&Cannoli Enterprises wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:21 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:04 pm @Cream&Cannoli Enterprises

What are your reads currently?
Sorta off the top of my head

Lime Coke, Gavial, LinearPoint, NAA

nutella

DrWigly

TonyStarkPrime, NANOOK

falcon, Urist

Srceenplay, fingersplints

0 posters
MacDougall, Paopan
I agree on Falcon and fingersplints
Wait why am I so high?
You'll have to ask the person who made the read.

Ya, why so hi?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:25 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:51 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:40 pm
Cream&Cannoli Enterprises wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:39 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:35 pm
Cream&Cannoli Enterprises wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:34 pm Why do you think Nanook is town?
Never directly stated I do but I was going to if I lived today which I did.

It’s more like I don’t think how Nanook’s been playing and whom is most likely mafia, would make Nanook mafia.
Ah, okay. I think he's independently scummy-ish, but I haven't thought about his posts in the context of the game as a whole yet.
You should look at his meta.
You’ll see it’s just typical Nanook here.
Also like Nanook can never be mafia with Srceenplay.
Nanook wouldn’t have asked him who he wanted to off.
Because if you remember Nanook asked, Srceenplay said LP and boom LP top Wagon that I made sure was stopped!

Now if Srceenplay somehow flips Green then and only then will I look towards Nanook’s direction but as for now I will do no such thing.
This makes sense but I don't like it.

Like I get normal Nook, but something feels off.

I'll let you explain it

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:52 pm Why wouldn’t I have just kept them alive since most thought me and them were Mafia when in reality I knew we were both town and I made sure we wouldn’t be the day execution.

nor does this

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:51 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:40 pm
Cream&Cannoli Enterprises wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:39 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:35 pm
Cream&Cannoli Enterprises wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:34 pm Why do you think Nanook is town?
Never directly stated I do but I was going to if I lived today which I did.

It’s more like I don’t think how Nanook’s been playing and whom is most likely mafia, would make Nanook mafia.
Ah, okay. I think he's independently scummy-ish, but I haven't thought about his posts in the context of the game as a whole yet.
You should look at his meta.
You’ll see it’s just typical Nanook here.
Also like Nanook can never be mafia with Srceenplay.
Nanook wouldn’t have asked him who he wanted to off.
Because if you remember Nanook asked, Srceenplay said LP and boom LP top Wagon that I made sure was stopped!

Now if Srceenplay somehow flips Green then and only then will I look towards Nanook’s direction but as for now I will do no such thing.

I dont see how this makes sense

Cream&Cannoli Enterprises wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:46 pm @Urist @srceenplay and @ anyone else who thinks Gavial is scum

Why do you think Gavial is scum?

yesterday I was getting a flailing feeling from them. Probably scum lean. As the day went on I liked LP more and decided on Gav. I still the correct play was lynching them.

Cream&Cannoli Enterprises wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:37 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:18 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:17 pm Either way 1 Mafia is on Gav’s wagon. If Gav is Mafia I’d say it’s not Urist, probably it’s NAA of Srceen (probs srceen)
Nah, I think Srceen is town
Why?

He feels kinda scummy to me.

#272 - feels wack to me. IDK why srceenplay would townread someone who essentially is saying, "Yeah, I feel the same." Read on DrWigly comes too easy given the content of the post.

#49 - I dunno if this is a troll post, but it feels written in a way that is genuine, which if so, feels off. "How do you know you are town?" is not exactly a great probing question. Just feels like a perfunctory attempt to appear instigative. Generally, I think townie questions have a purpose, whether as a RT or to gain greater insight. I don't see what the point of this question is.

272
When someone says the feel the same way as me I get the feeling they understand the same thought process as me. As I am town I would not think mafia would had the same thought process as me.

49 Is a troll post and serious. I'm shaded them and at the same time pointing out that if they "ARE" town they don't know anything. It might not be a "great probing question" but it's the style I play. Call out shit I see and randomly through out thoughts/content. Being wrong and bad does not make you mafia in this game. Being right and good does not make you town in this game.

Cream&Cannoli Enterprises wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:10 pm [VOTE: srceenplay] aubergine

not super seeing how srceenplay is town here tbh

@NotAnAxehole , if you truly believe srceenplay is town here, I would like to have those reasons articulated

@srceenplay if you would like, do you want to alleviate the concerns I listed out here: https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 67#p874567

Also, would like your reasoning on why you thought it was Gav/Nanook/Nutella on D1.

After dinner when back at computer

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:56 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:11 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:11 pm are you going to argue that voting out an uncced doc claim is optimal play somehow
Yes
Love to see it

srceenplay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:25 pm

From the doc claim we know mafia is DV or RB either could be true and them fishing for the rest of the setup with a CC.
or
Doc is real and they have a RB.

Yesterday we could have gotten information from that lynch but instead the day was wasted on the yolo lynch.

Today we may still get information but it could also be another wasted lynch and not worth committing to atm.

This.
As soon as we had a doc claim they force a cc that dosent help or the becaome dead to mafia. They day focused on lynching them and might have had more to look at for wagonomics.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:35 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:22 pm
falcon45ca
5
28%
Voters: nutella, LinearPoint, Cream&Cannoli Enterprises, NotAnAxehole, Lime Coke
Gavial
4
22%
Voters: Urist, srceenplay, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, falcon45ca

Maybe it would be worth flipping Gavial today or someone from that wagon.
Why would scum not vote it or leave it if they are DR?

I guess unless they know they have RB so they don't care.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:35 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:35 pm There's no reason that either of us should state that...but you never know.
EBWOP

lol I thought it could be an option.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:22 pm
falcon45ca
5
28%
Voters: nutella, LinearPoint, Cream&Cannoli Enterprises, NotAnAxehole, Lime Coke
Gavial
4
22%
Voters: Urist, srceenplay, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, falcon45ca

Maybe it would be worth flipping Gavial today or someone from that wagon.
Why would scum not vote it or leave it if they are DR?

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:26 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:12 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:26 pm In this individual game *shrug* the difference is probably negligible. Clearly mafia didn't think the PR meant anything for the game (unless Gavial himself is mafia - pending counter claim).
It's not worth a counter claim atm in my opinion, today or yesterday.
If there's a one-shot cop or a doublevoter, they should claim. If there's a tracker they should wait til tomorrow to use their other shot (unless they have a guilty, in which case they out it).

if the cop shot, yes.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:25 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:14 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:11 pm I honestly think Urist and Srceenplay are scum but NAA being alive is a no no on my watch.

Although @Cream&Cannoli Enterprises
I will sheep you today as I’ll use my last protect on you tonight as I die.
Can we just pretend that you are dead the rest of the game?
Can you help with that?
I mean I’ve actually been helping town significantly so no?
Lol. Don’t try to ignore this Crocodillian!

I even said both me and LP were town wagons and even told LP we needed to do something but town didn’t do really much at all.

You know what the means? Yes exactly it means all scum were there during day 1, you know what that means.
@Jackofhearts2005
@tessepia

Are confirmed Town!

All scum were there? Explain you are saying? I'm missing it

From the doc claim we know mafia is DV or RB either could be true and them fishing for the rest of the setup with a CC.
or
Doc is real and they have a RB.

Yesterday we could have gotten information from that lynch but instead the day was wasted on the yolo lynch.

Today we may still get information but it could also be another wasted lynch and not worth committing to atm.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:11 pm I honestly think Urist and Srceenplay are scum but NAA being alive is a no no on my watch.

Although @Cream&Cannoli Enterprises
I will sheep you today as I’ll use my last protect on you tonight as I die.

Can we just pretend that you are dead the rest of the game?
Can you help with that?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:26 pm In this individual game *shrug* the difference is probably negligible. Clearly mafia didn't think the PR meant anything for the game (unless Gavial himself is mafia - pending counter claim).

It's not worth a counter claim atm in my opinion, today or yesterday.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:22 pm Are people really saying that killing a guy that claims PR which is 90% confirmed town and is self resolvable is more optimal than killing a person that isn't a PR claim, isn't cleared at all, and has a higher chance of flipping mafia?

I dont think we can kill Gaviel now. That point has passed.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:16 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:11 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:05 pm LP dying sucks but it means Gavial possibly isn't mafia (which also sucks).

Looking forward to hearing something from the zero-posters today.
Why does Gavial not dying mean they are not mafia?
If Gavial were mafia I'd expect someone pushing him to be killed. And if not someone pushing him, probably not the person saying "yeah I think he's a PR" before he's even claimed PR.

I'm not going to winfom but i think you are over thinking it.

My appointment is starting. Be back

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:11 pm are you going to argue that voting out an uncced doc claim is optimal play somehow

Yes

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:05 pm LP dying sucks but it means Gavial possibly isn't mafia (which also sucks).

Looking forward to hearing something from the zero-posters today.

Why does Gavial not dying mean they are not mafia?

Axe hole’s vote switch is horrible considering they know optimal play there. They are either confirmed scum or horrible town and should nuke their hard drive and never be allowed to play mafia again.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:48 pm Oh wait this shit ends in 12 minutes...okay what are we doing?

Killing a Doctor

Pretty sure it's I always call Nanook out as scum.

oops
*Simple minded

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:38 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:37 pm Kinda confused why axehole is entertaining a change
Well, I am trying to please the crowd by entertaining it. We have a couple StarV detractors in this game.

Simp

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:37 pm Literally the sad thing is that if he's actually town, he's not wrong...

Right

Drum roll....

Gavil Nut and Nanook

GG

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:37 pm From my experience, most people instinctively want to kill Srceenplay when they play with him for the first time.

Probably not just the first time

Kinda confused why axehole is entertaining a change

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:34 pm
srceenplay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:34 pm but why change?
.....

I flip town and gavil lives.

Not helpful for the game.

but why change?

Claimed doc dies N1 anyway.

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