The Syndicate

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:02 pm
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TOWN STREAKING!!!!!!

I hate love you lmfao

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:05 pm Alsk I’m im ready to do a lot of fucking around buuuut not a lot of finding out so I’ll cover the humor for this game everyone agrees not to vote me off and I do 0% of the hunting

I wish to fulfill this exact role in my games one day

I am workshca atm but am excite to play just wanted to say hi

God I went like an entire week without a mafia game and now my vid can be filled once again

Rondo you putting mac w when he hasn't even posted? Lmfao

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:05 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:03 pm Rondo you putting mac w when he hasn't even posted? Lmfao
read the post again

Jesus christ I need help

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:10 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:13 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:05 pm Alsk I’m im ready to do a lot of fucking around buuuut not a lot of finding out so I’ll cover the humor for this game everyone agrees not to vote me off and I do 0% of the hunting
I wish to fulfill this exact role in my games one day
Ah young grasshopper you just have to be miss voted a lot for a few years than you can truly achieve greatness like me

Oh good I've got about 1 year under my belt so I'm part way there

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:12 pm If day ended in 10 minutes I’d definitely vote for Rondo.

Why

Ah well if you havent played with rondo then maybe the vibes are different

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:14 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:05 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:03 pm Rondo you putting mac w when he hasn't even posted? Lmfao
read the post again
Jesus christ I need help

I chuckled at this exchange, but if I decide Tin foil you later in the game I’ll come back to this

Lol for what?

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:15 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:13 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:12 pm If day ended in 10 minutes I’d definitely vote for Rondo.
Why
Trying to discredit a not-very-serious reads list seems overly defensive.

Hm
I didnt read it as particularly discrediting or defensive

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:04 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:52 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:51 pm Of this PL, I’ve only played with JackofHearts, Creature and Lucy before. I’ll probably sheep SPF’s reads until I decide she’s mafia.
sheep me instead and town will win
que?

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:03 pm Rondo you putting mac w when he hasn't even posted? Lmfao
to be fair I didnt know Mac was in this game

if I am sheeping you and they are sheeping me. Ipso facto lorum ipsum

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:35 pm i think rondo is always a very easy townread
i think mac town idk vibes astrology saturn
think lucy is town for the "imma tryhard this game" line
i think sean town coz idk vibes feelings jupiter
i think neon is town for those kpop gifs. she felt bad for last game with the npcs and stuff and now she chilling. an nyeong ha seyo

I wasn't gonna say it already and hold my thought but since you already said it I wanted to say I agree with your lucy read, I had the same thought

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:14 am
Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:06 am I also dont think the beginning of the game was boring or that porscha v was the only read to be had.
+1

It gave me a weird feeling when I read it too and I didn't entirely understand the follow up on it but I see she's being tr'd after the fact and I dont really understand the tr's either
but maybe it's because I didnt feel like I was grasping the in between very well so maybe that's why I dont understand the conclusion

hi neon do you have any thots

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:45 am Porscha town due to feeling comfortable and posting analysis already in this playerlist

I like your pfp btw it made me laugh

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:16 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:43 am hi neon do you have any thots
Always. Falcon is town it's a vibe thing.

You feel town so far and I totally won't kill you in F5.

Lucy feels like a villa trying to improve on things in their game they've been told are holding them back idk that's the vibe I'm getting.

I'm so obviously town it hurts.

SPF is meh to me on opening.

I don't like Alison's vibes atm but it's a weak vibe read.

I don't know if Mac believes his own reads right now but I kind of don't like them and that feels bad for me on a personal level because I usually feel some kind of connection to mac early where I'm like oh yeah I agree with this thought but I've not felt that here at all.

I have zero reasons to actually vote Seanzie but I'm gonna stay here for now anyways cause rvs. and cause if I vote Sean everytime they say town streakingeventually Sean will be scum and I can be all like told you Seanwas scum lmao

I also thought falcon's entrance was towny even by his standard of entry lol cuz normally I still have some doubt on every entry post he does but this time it actually sounded like..... I feel like normally he makes his entry post have something wolfy about it on purpose and this time it doesnt seem that way! unsure if he should actually be tr'd for that now that I think about it though

also what do you mean about mac not believing his own reads? it can't just be b/c you aren't mind melding with him on his reads, so what makes you think that?

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:29 am I’m a little bored tbh.

Mac’s posts are like, the words are fine and even correct/smart but they don’t come across as free-flowing and tonally amazing and that’s a red flag to me coming from a skilled player.

I feel like he's been very normal and doesnt feel stilted or predetermined?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:20 am Current leans
@Porscha town === post 204 which part are you referring to specifically? (Equity with falcon but probably just town) And what do you mean by post 61? If you town read me can you articulate why?

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Or you can ignore all of this Im not your mum

Sorry only answering what was directed at me
1) uh, specifically the part about lucy. I thought that was pretty clear lol
2) I was assuming a reason to think why they would say that about you because so far you havent personally pinged me, but I understand if someone is less familiar with you then that tends to be the general sentiment of how others feel towards you lol
3) you can have a TL specifically for this post because it's pretty try hard but I wasnt tr'ing you before it and frankly I think you're still possibly within wolf meta as well as town meta so I am letting you sit in the slow cooker for now

Me slep me wake me go werk I'll try to pop in and do more catch up during day but I awoke with many pages to read so I'll probably end up staying behind if this rate of posting keeps up lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 am The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.

However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.

I agree is dumb to try wagonomics on it, why do you think creatures vote is the worst of them

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:51 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:48 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:47 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 am The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.

However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.
Fill me in, which one isn't towny?
he just voted creature a few posts above this

i think wilgy is ... towny for this?
why though? Derp?

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:51 amya

I dont really see it as a derp that's ai in the slightest lol

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:35 am
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:45 am Porscha town due to feeling comfortable and posting analysis already in this playerlist
This looks like a clean attempt to pocket imo.

I've considered it, but since I dont really think it makes a lot of sense for lucy to make the post about try harding (especially cuz I think she is aware that myself and likely some other players here see her try hard more as wolf and not as town) if shes wolfing, I already mentally had her sorted to the town side unless something egregious changes
But maybe I'm just happy to not have the mislynch train on me early for once so whatever it can be a tentative tr that I'll keep in mind

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:08 pm Percentage chance of a Mac/Alison W/W world? Like anyone else think that's a possibility right meow? Because it's something I'm buying into more and more during reread.

Sorry if you explain later but I'm in catch up and want to know what you are seeing in catch up that would make you think its w/w? Iirc mac said something about alison maybe wolf but dont think it went anywhere

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:01 pm I'll prob only be able to do good stuff after D1. I can't function without flips and seeing how wagons work on non-me players. Wagoning me here is detrimental to town.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:02 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:14 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:55 am Somebody do something to make me feel something.
I'm listening to Easy to Tame by Kim Mitchell, and got Rich Gurl by Hall & Oates qued up next.

Get hyped.

What's your take on Wilgy?
lol I think DrWilgy had a wolf list that feels like it's 0/3 so he can go

Why does this feel like pain

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:55 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:52 pm @RondoDimBuckle pretty sure the level of tryharding i put into the thread has zero correlation to my alignment, furthermore my spew is notoriously hard to read so i’m pretty sure that analysis won’t do shit even if i was a wolf. so my question is, why do you think that it will, and why do you think that wim matters?

also i thought u were bluffing or calling me a wolf, i thought getting u to verbalize those thoughts make your thoughts about 2 wolves above this line super wolfy

which is why i SR you atm
Hi Lucy
Of all the people who have substantive posts in this game, I probably like Rondo’s the least. Not necessarily wolfy, I just don’t like them.

If they dont feel wolfy are you able to elaborate on why you dont like them lol

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:09 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:48 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:47 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 am The more true thing about that 4 player wagon is it is likely 75% town regardless of Kate's alignment, which is pretty well rand. So trying to do wagonomics with it is dumb.

However 3 of the voters seem much townier than the other, hence my vote.
Fill me in, which one isn't towny?
I said 3 seem townier than one. Not that one wasn't townie.

SPF, Baudib and Tutuu have been a lot townier than Creature.
Creature has hit a towntell of his which is quietly and nakedly sheeping me because he has gotten it into his head that as town I am always right and as mafia I'd feel obligated to bus. Regardless of whether you agree with that I believe that he believes it and so him acting in accordance with that is his town meta.

Him naked voting kate twice is the only thing I'm giving him townie points for because otherwise I feel like he is fully within wolf range at this point

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:10 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:07 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:05 am I agree with SPF that this is a super unexciting game so far. I am just gonna vote the easiest wolf to catch and try to break the game open with associatives.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine
??? I think I've made 2 posts. Why are you looking at me?
This is an outing reaction by the way. This is literally a wolf asking "why me?" This is someone who doesn't understand how they've been caught off 2 posts.

I would dayvig this if I had a gun.
Agreed, tho I didn't find Kate sus until that reaction

+1 but also my opinion comes with the caveat that I would still like to see some actual posts from kate regardless so I can comfortably feel like I'm able to assess her from content as well

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:16 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:10 pm I keep thinking there are 4 mafia but trying to remember there are 5. Quite a lot. I wonder how many ive wrongly townread already. Lol if all 5
also i know it's a very stupid and level 0 tell but i think this post is probably town indicative because whenever someone expresses confusion about how many wolves they are, theyre town roughly 80% of the time. it's a tell that wolves usually don't think to make bcuz u have to yield ur TMI kind of weirdly to come up with that type of thought as a wolf

what... does that mean? how does a wolf have to yield their tmi in a weird way? like are you saying "wolves struggle with it cuz of tmi to the extent that a wolf isn't likely to think of it"?? I don't know wth you are trying to say lol can you please reiterate

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:18 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:37 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:34 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:32 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:29 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:02 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:14 pm

I'm listening to Easy to Tame by Kim Mitchell, and got Rich Gurl by Hall & Oates qued up next.

Get hyped.

What's your take on Wilgy?
lol I think DrWilgy had a wolf list that feels like it's 0/3 so he can go
Yeah, but it's D1...weird reason to SR him IMO
The same can be said to literally any wolfread rn. Gotta start somewhere.
No, that's not true. Lots of legit reasons to SR a player can & do emerge D1, but to SR a player just cuz you feel they have 0 wolves in a list of 3 is utter crap
If someone's wolf list consists mostly of towny players/ml baits then there's a massive dissonance which could point a wolf.
also not to dunk on creature but he literally spent the entirety of the game we just played together repping a 0/3 solve so im struggling to understand how this is a legitimate thought that would come from him

this is extremely funny

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:14 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:01 pm I'll prob only be able to do good stuff after D1. I can't function without flips and seeing how wagons work on non-me players. Wagoning me here is detrimental to town.
also this post activates my fight or flight instincts with the way that creature worded it, even tho admittedly sometimes creature just makes post like that as both alignments

I feel like you're being a little hedgy on creature
like you made a couple pretty strong sounding posts about creature, which you're admittedly selling me on, but then ending with like "yeah but idk if its ai" like are ya comin or are ya goin

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:43 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:29 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:14 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:01 pm I'll prob only be able to do good stuff after D1. I can't function without flips and seeing how wagons work on non-me players. Wagoning me here is detrimental to town.
also this post activates my fight or flight instincts with the way that creature worded it, even tho admittedly sometimes creature just makes post like that as both alignments
I feel like you're being a little hedgy on creature
like you made a couple pretty strong sounding posts about creature, which you're admittedly selling me on, but then ending with like "yeah but idk if its ai" like are ya comin or are ya goin
u dead girl [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

what

should I just not bother trying to catch up on today's posts or like what is the issue here lol

oh nvm tutuu is just trolling me i'm going back to reading

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:37 pm I think I vote yes for letting lucy call the exe

this sounds a lot like kingmaker and i'm not a fan of it as a concept

is there a difference between them or

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:20 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:18 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:37 pm I think I vote yes for letting lucy call the exe
this sounds a lot like kingmaker and i'm not a fan of it as a concept

is there a difference between them or
Kingmaker gives power to the scummiest player. This gives power to the towniest.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:20 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:18 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:37 pm I think I vote yes for letting lucy call the exe
this sounds a lot like kingmaker and i'm not a fan of it as a concept

is there a difference between them or
kingmaker is when there's 3 factions, one of them can't win, so they decide which one wins at the end. for instance town, mafia, 3p at f3. it sucks coz it ends up being like survivor or a popularity thing and not mafia game

in this case the idea isnt like that, iss like lucy is town so she gets to be a dictator

normally thats ok BUT SHE IS VOTING FOR ME. WHICH IS NOT GOOD. SO YES THIS IS LIKE KINGMAKER. BAD! BAD LUCY!

lol I see... and that's why you always kills survivor claims in tos-like mafia games
I definitely had an incorrect perception of what kingmaker was

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:50 pm
sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:17 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:20 am Current leans

@sig wolf? (GTH Wolf) === Why did you try to undermine my Mac town read? Why are you defending Falcon? Why are you giving me a day 1 pass in a game about suspicion and deceit? What specifically do you like about Sean / Baud's post? When do you plan on doing any actual solving?
@staypositivefriend dunno (GT
(A) Kate > (B) Sig > (C) Lucy > (D)(One of Alison/Mac)

A - if kate flips wolf, analyse spew (or lack of and continue with kill list)
B - if Sig flips wolf, analyse spew (or lack of and continue with kill list)
C - if lucy flips wolf, anal- win the game

A - if kate flips town > kill counter wagon and so on till finding wolf and then kill most towny player day 4 if 3 consecutive non wolf hits (Hence D. Mac/Alison)
B - as above but +1 day
C - as above but +2 days

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Or you can ignore all of this Im not your mum

First, I don’t like the level of tie in you’re attempting to do this early on, pre any flips. A lot of assumptions are being made and I find that this is more commonly a tactic used by mafia. Especially early game since it allows you to post a lot but say very little.

I alreayd answered the falcon question when talking to him, but basically he’s misvoted a lot and I don’t see much to see why he’s mafia. His posts (up to where I was which was around 10am today) are all pretty normal.

Mac is someone who we shouldn’t hardcore read town day 1 and I said why in my post. I’m not liking some of your questions especially this one since I answered it upfront? Seems like you’re just fishing for a reason to vote for me right now.

The other two were gut feels I like their playstyle so far.

I was against voting you day 1 since I wasn’t seeing the reasons and it seems like you’re misvoted alot.

Now my questions for you.

Why is it odd that I don’t want people to Town Read Mac for doing almost nothing, BUT, it’s also odd for me to not want to vote you out since “this is a game of deception”? You’re Basically making two totally counter arguments/point that don’t fit together at all. This + you questioning me about Mac is raising some flags
Rondo is Maf, so is Mac

Can you... can you elaborate where you're getting this idea from

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:22 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:08 pm Percentage chance of a Mac/Alison W/W world? Like anyone else think that's a possibility right meow? Because it's something I'm buying into more and more during reread.
I retract my neon scumread.

Remember when

fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:08 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:53 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:51 pm @Alison

Why aren’t you voting me if I’m outted?
This was asked earlier and my response is that Roxy is more outed
How can someone be “more outed”?

Alison's scale appears to be 1(outed) through 10(outed) lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:24 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:02 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:14 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:55 am Somebody do something to make me feel something.
I'm listening to Easy to Tame by Kim Mitchell, and got Rich Gurl by Hall & Oates qued up next.

Get hyped.

What's your take on Wilgy?
lol I think DrWilgy had a wolf list that feels like it's 0/3 so he can go
agree / retract my scumread on creature

I havent loved creature so far but this feels pockety towards him mostly because I already thought it was a weird sentiment from him but now you agree
But also why would mac want to pocket creature
...................... maybe I should just assume I'm not seeing what you're seeing and its townier than my instincts say it is
I imagine you'll explain the wilgy reads thing in a further post so I won't ask for now

I made it part way thru page 17 but it is way too late to continue see you guys on the flip side

Sorry guys been busy all day and then got called into work
Who wants my sheep vote
Bark for me for my vote

Oracle mother tell me what to do

Apparently I missed the fiesta yesterday

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:33 pm Oh yeah, no one got a chance to answer me last night. What's LHF?

Lhf = low hanging fruit

I imagine some cards were used to end night early and then... also end the next day early? Is that all it was or am I lacking critical information

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:50 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:44 pm Ok so @Seanzie I guess we would like you to clarify. Do you have mechanical information that indicate Mac and Jack are wolves?
no bro, don't you know that if I did I couldn't say it but hey it isn't the case anyway, so sit down and just drown in the fact that "Mac and Jack ate a shortstack of flapjacks in wolf chat" is a fact that I deduced by being a sleuth, reading the thread, using my head. No cards jarred these facts that I spread.

Are you able to elaborate on what lead you to that conclusion then pls

Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:47 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:45 pm Its pretty clear that we absolutely lost control over the game.
Sig's recasting of the Alison situation encapsulates that perfectly.
It all just looks mindless. Is Lucy/Mac/SPF not enough for you guys?
But. I dont actually know anyone who has the mileage besides tutuu to persuade how many ever town that actually boring established towncores of stronger players are good.
Whoa, whoa, whoa there Chicken Little. Settle down.

We didn't have a N1 town death, so that's a plus. These kind of posts are inherently scummy, as they only serve to lower morale.
Perhaps Falcon actually believes things are going dandy.* At any rate, in the Falcon/DrWilgy pair, I'm currently of the mind to vote DrWilgy over Falcon.

*my immediate reaction to the Moon card being played was that wolves used it to chop Alison. I do think this is a reasonable kneejerk reaction and hence why I dont care for SPF's questioning of Creature's stated reasoning on roxy.

How does it play into SPF's questioning that you dont care for? Why couldnt it have been a town who used the card on alison???

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:20 pm porscha what reads do u have that u can talk with me about rn?

I'm workscha atm and ngl I didnt really read after page 20.
Off the top of my head I'm thinking liiiiike

No actually I'm going to wait until I'm home when I have the player list in front of me and can actually spend time on this
I'll get back to you on it cuz I have some thoughts and a few ppl like baudi or bereft I need to review

Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:26 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:18 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:47 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:45 pm Its pretty clear that we absolutely lost control over the game.
Sig's recasting of the Alison situation encapsulates that perfectly.
It all just looks mindless. Is Lucy/Mac/SPF not enough for you guys?
But. I dont actually know anyone who has the mileage besides tutuu to persuade how many ever town that actually boring established towncores of stronger players are good.
Whoa, whoa, whoa there Chicken Little. Settle down.

We didn't have a N1 town death, so that's a plus. These kind of posts are inherently scummy, as they only serve to lower morale.
Perhaps Falcon actually believes things are going dandy.* At any rate, in the Falcon/DrWilgy pair, I'm currently of the mind to vote DrWilgy over Falcon.

*my immediate reaction to the Moon card being played was that wolves used it to chop Alison. I do think this is a reasonable kneejerk reaction and hence why I dont care for SPF's questioning of Creature's stated reasoning on roxy.
How does it play into SPF's questioning that you dont care for? Why couldnt it have been a town who used the card on alison???
I suddenly feel like you might not be town after all.
In all seriousness, I don't feel like responding with the usual "this is what i was trying to say, not what you said, what you were trying to point out is irrelevant, also why is this even of interest to you". Maybe SPF might explain.

It's fine if you've explained why you think that solid chance I havent seen it I'm just trying to be as active as possible while at work so I'm not mountain deep in pages missed but there is no reason why it wouldnt be relevant especially if the theory that thread is not town sided rn is true

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