The Syndicate

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:08 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:06 am Perhaps...I can't recall tbh.




I'll say this tho...there are some players who, if they've not been NKd or elimmed some other way, and are still alive & kicking after D2,3, etc?




They be Maf

hahahh ur so wholesome falcy

dw. we just do a lil trolling

but yeah ur right ofc. jay was protected n1. we see how he holds up

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:07 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:59 am look belzy is a grown woman and she's allowed to tell us to fuck off for joking with her if she wants, you dont need to white knight her to pocket her

This is about how I feel. I mean it started as a read about how I think Belzys emotion was AI but long ago I stated that I could not speak for Belzy past that and I do not wish to put words in her mouth

But this is also just a disingenuous and kinda demeaning take on what I'm trying to do.

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:49 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:45 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:40 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:26 am sometimes feelings are wrong, stupid, pointless, harmful to ourselves, etc. if you don't have a boundary to determine what was actually hurtful instead of it just happening to hurt your feelings then everybody is responsible for someone else's emotions and that's frequently untrue. can we move on and talk about the game

I disagree with the insinuation that feelings are at any point stupid.

Yes I'm aware I'm overly emotional. No I do not think that invalidates my feelings or makes them stupid and yes I do think that means that people should try to understand where and why I feel hurt by certain actions. I am not hurt by every action in hurt by more than most people sure but not everything makes me cry.

so is that a no

I mean it's not a no but it's not a yes either.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:49 am ok i want to respect porscha's wishes to get back into the game

so, lets get back to being serious, guys

question for you two:

has JJJ done isos as town before?

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:40 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:26 am sometimes feelings are wrong, stupid, pointless, harmful to ourselves, etc. if you don't have a boundary to determine what was actually hurtful instead of it just happening to hurt your feelings then everybody is responsible for someone else's emotions and that's frequently untrue. can we move on and talk about the game

I disagree with the insinuation that feelings are at any point stupid.

Yes I'm aware I'm overly emotional. No I do not think that invalidates my feelings or makes them stupid and yes I do think that means that people should try to understand where and why I feel hurt by certain actions. I am not hurt by every action in hurt by more than most people sure but not everything makes me cry.

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:30 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:24 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:20 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:17 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:05 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:56 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:52 am

I mean why would someone make the cocos decision to continue to post in that manner while being PoE.

I feel like Rico cares more than to get themself killed for a meme.

I also don't think anyone in their right mind is going to wolf read him because of it, just like you aren't. so he clearly isn't in danger from it

Sure but my point is that in most cases a post restriction is wolf sided so thusly Rico having it is >rand townie

Therefore Rico being a lead wagon is not beneficial and in fact actively a problem.

okay then push someone else?

sidenote, you literally played a game with post restrictions that wolves applied to themselves too...

You should be acutely aware that I'm not a fan of pushing players and that my general play style is too attempt to get others to see what I'm seeing.

And yes I openly acknowledged this it's in the post where I asserted this feeling

Defend rico all you want, but everyone including you will be aimlessly ditzing around if we don't find some scumreads to push and wagons to consolidate on. like that's the perfect gamestate for wolves. all talk no pressure

In effect isn't finding town going to place pressure somewhere anyways?

Like yes I think players who have a play style around pushing and applying pressure should do such but I do not think that negates how I play the game and I think the system works most effectively when players who apply pressure apply said pressure while listening to players like me who's style is too find and defend town reads.

It's effectively a checks and balances system in effect

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:20 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:17 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:05 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:56 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:52 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:38 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:35 am all of rico's posts

I guess it's possible. but the confidence of which it was said threw me, cuz I was just reading rico as joking around

it didn't occur to me that he *couldnt* post normally

I mean why would someone make the cocos decision to continue to post in that manner while being PoE.

I feel like Rico cares more than to get themself killed for a meme.

I also don't think anyone in their right mind is going to wolf read him because of it, just like you aren't. so he clearly isn't in danger from it

Sure but my point is that in most cases a post restriction is wolf sided so thusly Rico having it is >rand townie

Therefore Rico being a lead wagon is not beneficial and in fact actively a problem.

okay then push someone else?

sidenote, you literally played a game with post restrictions that wolves applied to themselves too...

You should be acutely aware that I'm not a fan of pushing players and that my general play style is too attempt to get others to see what I'm seeing.

And yes I openly acknowledged this it's in the post where I asserted this feeling

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:05 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:56 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:52 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:38 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:35 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:33 am i'm sorry? what makes you think there is a post restriction ability?

all of rico's posts

I guess it's possible. but the confidence of which it was said threw me, cuz I was just reading rico as joking around

it didn't occur to me that he *couldnt* post normally

I mean why would someone make the cocos decision to continue to post in that manner while being PoE.

I feel like Rico cares more than to get themself killed for a meme.

I also don't think anyone in their right mind is going to wolf read him because of it, just like you aren't. so he clearly isn't in danger from it

Sure but my point is that in most cases a post restriction is wolf sided so thusly Rico having it is >rand townie

Therefore Rico being a lead wagon is not beneficial and in fact actively a problem.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:58 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:52 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:50 am Like I feel it's unfair to me that you literally say "I see Brad do towny things but then realize he can do it as a wolf."

Like, do you do this with anyone else?

@Porscha

yes? that's the nature of the game? it isn't unfair at all for me to think you're wolfing, I dont understand your perspective at all. you're pre flipping scenarios just to try and get me to change my read on you and it isnt' effective

No but I feel like it's unfair that you do it damn near every game to me regardless of what I do.

Like i don't understand what I did to you to do it constantly.

There are players out there that are way better wolf players than I am but I feel like you don't give that handicap to them when playing with them.

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:57 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:48 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:42 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:31 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:21 am instead of like really understanding why the feelings were there

i can assure you everyone understood

I can assure you if that was true the response would not have been lol its just a joke stop being emo

zenon telling everyone else to not be emo

ex dee

That is like the opposite of what this post says though

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:55 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:50 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:47 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:33 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:56 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:54 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:53 pm

Nah Seanzie said it first but I was voting Rico after all of that.

LMAO OKAY SOOO my point stands!

Does it really matter though if this is right and Rico ends up flipping mafia? Especially when I was voting there most of Day 1, annnnd the rest of town decided to build Vivax vs Scotty wagons?

well that all depends on if I think rico would flip mafia and you wouldn't, doesnt it

like it's just a hypothetical world, I don't know what will happen

this just feels like a weird deflection to get me off your back. Like I wouldn't stop you from trying to solve by suggesting your entire line of thinking is pointless if rico flips town, and now that i'm thinking about it, it sort of just reeks of tmi that you are suggesting that to me with no suspicion of me too

[VOTE: LimeCoke] aubergine

Because I know that if I'm right on Ricochet, and help vote him out, you will still come up with more excuses to call me mafia and not take the simple read and call me town for simply making the right vote and getting out mafia.

so you're gonna use your tmi to suggest to me that i am incapable of reconsidering my reads before we have any flips.

We literally had a light game on MU where I had a huge hand in getting rid of 3 out of the 4 maf players in the game, and you still decided to vote me in F3 for whatever reason.

So sorry to say, but I don't have much faith in you reconsidering your reads in general, specifically on me.

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:52 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:38 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:35 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:33 am i'm sorry? what makes you think there is a post restriction ability?

all of rico's posts

I guess it's possible. but the confidence of which it was said threw me, cuz I was just reading rico as joking around

it didn't occur to me that he *couldnt* post normally

I mean why would someone make the cocos decision to continue to post in that manner while being PoE.

I feel like Rico cares more than to get themself killed for a meme.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:52 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:03 am
Rico is honestly just town unless this is a fake restriction and I donut think it is

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:50 am Like I feel it's unfair to me that you literally say "I see Brad do towny things but then realize he can do it as a wolf."

Like, do you do this with anyone else?

@Porscha

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:47 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:33 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:56 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:54 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:53 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:50 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:48 pm

Nah I had this read myself but Seanzie kind of explained it a bit better than I can.

So... did you say it first?

Nah Seanzie said it first but I was voting Rico after all of that.

LMAO OKAY SOOO my point stands!

Does it really matter though if this is right and Rico ends up flipping mafia? Especially when I was voting there most of Day 1, annnnd the rest of town decided to build Vivax vs Scotty wagons?

well that all depends on if I think rico would flip mafia and you wouldn't, doesnt it

like it's just a hypothetical world, I don't know what will happen

this just feels like a weird deflection to get me off your back. Like I wouldn't stop you from trying to solve by suggesting your entire line of thinking is pointless if rico flips town, and now that i'm thinking about it, it sort of just reeks of tmi that you are suggesting that to me with no suspicion of me too

[VOTE: LimeCoke] aubergine

Because I know that if I'm right on Ricochet, and help vote him out, you will still come up with more excuses to call me mafia and not take the simple read and call me town for simply making the right vote and getting out mafia.

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:43 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:33 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:21 am Belzy is like kinda the only player I trust right now. Wrong on me but I fully understand the thought process and its towny. The indignation is heckin towny AF. I think the genuine emotion around asking a legitimate question and only getting joke answers is like real and towny and I would be upset to because I find that happens a lot here and that's antithetical to a team game when someone is seeking genuine clarification.

Blah blah I also don't like that everyone responded to this by saying "they were joking" instead of like really understanding why the feelings were there and valid blah blah

I think this will be my jumping off point. Belzy is my life raft.

I genuinely believe post restriction abilities are always wolf sided and generally are always wolf PRs therefore I think Rico is town however there is a juxtaposition with the fact that I think it was me and Porscha were wolfing together don't remember who else and we used our post restriction abilities on ourself so I am acutely aware of that.

I think the poll removal ability is likely wolfy I think the caster is wolfy I should say the recipient is likely town. I do not know who cast and who received I'm inclined to think that the intent was to make Martin look worse because they recurve substantial suspicion yesterday

I do not think that the thread state is good I think wolfs are rolling us I think the thought process is bad I think this game is hard and I donut know how to fix it but something is wrong.

LAMIST

Hopefully this post gets some thought going I tried I want interaction pls don't ignore me

Back to work

i'm sorry? what makes you think there is a post restriction ability?

Logic. I mean like literally why else would Rico be playing the way they have today. No shot this was a conscious choice.

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:44 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:36 am I also townlean belzy

I'm town locking Belz until FX *shrugs*

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:42 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:31 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:21 am instead of like really understanding why the feelings were there

i can assure you everyone understood

I can assure you if that was true the response would not have been lol its just a joke stop being emo

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:37 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:21 am I do not think that the thread state is good I think wolfs are rolling us I think the thought process is bad I think this game is hard and I donut know how to fix it but something is wrong.

i think motobot is wolf. but then i dont know who are his wolf mates

thread state was even worse d1. 100 times worse d1

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:35 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:33 am i'm sorry? what makes you think there is a post restriction ability?

all of rico's posts

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 1:21 am Belzy is like kinda the only player I trust right now. Wrong on me but I fully understand the thought process and its towny. The indignation is heckin towny AF. I think the genuine emotion around asking a legitimate question and only getting joke answers is like real and towny and I would be upset to because I find that happens a lot here and that's antithetical to a team game when someone is seeking genuine clarification.

Blah blah I also don't like that everyone responded to this by saying "they were joking" instead of like really understanding why the feelings were there and valid blah blah

I think this will be my jumping off point. Belzy is my life raft.

I genuinely believe post restriction abilities are always wolf sided and generally are always wolf PRs therefore I think Rico is town however there is a juxtaposition with the fact that I think it was me and Porscha were wolfing together don't remember who else and we used our post restriction abilities on ourself so I am acutely aware of that.

I think the poll removal ability is likely wolfy I think the caster is wolfy I should say the recipient is likely town. I do not know who cast and who received I'm inclined to think that the intent was to make Martin look worse because they recurve substantial suspicion yesterday

I do not think that the thread state is good I think wolfs are rolling us I think the thought process is bad I think this game is hard and I donut know how to fix it but something is wrong.

LAMIST

Hopefully this post gets some thought going I tried I want interaction pls don't ignore me

Back to work

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:20 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:14 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:14 pm Porscha

tutuu
JaggedJimmyJay
falcon45ca

Lime Coke

die_meatbaby
MartinGG99

Zenon
Belzy
DrWilgy
RondoDimBuckle

motobot
Creature

Ricochet

Rondo, Moto and Creature have all been pretty meh today. Meatbaby has as well, but I felt good enough about them D1 that they're still north of null.

I should probably ISO Zenon. I know Belzy was scumreading them, so doing so might help me sort both of them. However... that will have to wait until later because I have plans tonight.

has rondo even posted today?

No. What do you make of that?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:10 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:47 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:03 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:43 pm No but actual town sean on town rico vibes and wolf brad running with it vibes lol

Meh, I can see your perspective, but I think scum!Rico town!Lime is more likely. Minimally though, Rico/Lime not w/w since Lime kinda sheeping me and not independently pushing Rico will give me more towncred than Lime for a Rico-flip, so it doesn't really make sense as a bus.

I think it's a really easy way for a wolf to sponge a read and then start claiming it as their own, just like lc tried to do

Yeah but he didn't. It'd be one thing if Lime was parroting my read while claiming it as their own, but they haven't done that. If anything, I'm more concerned that Lime keeps referring to my take on Rico in order to avoid elaborating on their own thoughts.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:14 pm Porscha

tutuu
JaggedJimmyJay
falcon45ca

Lime Coke

die_meatbaby
MartinGG99

Zenon
Belzy
DrWilgy
RondoDimBuckle

motobot
Creature

Ricochet

Rondo, Moto and Creature have all been pretty meh today. Meatbaby has as well, but I felt good enough about them D1 that they're still north of null.

I should probably ISO Zenon. I know Belzy was scumreading them, so doing so might help me sort both of them. However... that will have to wait until later because I have plans tonight.

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:57 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:55 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:50 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

they are joking btw lol, Jay is like one of the most decorated mafia players in the entire forum mafia world. he has done isos as town

If ppl are not going to be honest, I will just walk away.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:18 pm Porscha ISO

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Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:39 pm [VOTE: rabbit] aubergine pls & thank yew

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:44 pm No I just want to eat rabbit

Tell him that

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:48 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:42 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:38 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:34 pm Now I almost wish I had picked food because this trying to push townreads for this reason somehow bothers me.

I don’t see how wanting to live is inherently bad.

I've shrugged it since basically almost anything on the list contributes to living in some capacity whether that be surviving the day or night

the only one that doesn't quite do that under every circumstance is yours and JJJ's umbrella

its not the same since the wood and flint are useless to the mafia

it says in their description they specifically protect from mafia night kill, not from any kill like a vigilante

u shrugging them off and perceiving them as equal (or least representing that ur doing that) sounds believe to me, looks to me like u town told. enjoy the ride buddy

The items are useless in that their abilities so not help the mafia. But the items are not useless, in that it would benefit the wolves to steal any protection away from town for night kills

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:48 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:45 pm Vote iaafr
Vote rabbit8
Vote Ultra
Vote Carotte

Hehe

I voted you btw

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:52 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:51 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:48 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:45 pm Vote iaafr
Vote rabbit8
Vote Ultra
Vote Carotte

Hehe

I voted you btw

JaggedJimmyJay in thousands of games past wrote: Why

Loooool

2.5 town is not enough!!! (Especially cuz I know I'm not 1 of them, how dare you tbh)

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:08 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:53 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:39 pm [VOTE: rabbit] aubergine pls & thank yew

Porscha picking the only meat on the menu? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM :think:

There is literally a Turkey leg as an option

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:09 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:54 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:52 pm Loooool

2.5 town is not enough!!! (Especially cuz I know I'm not 1 of them, how dare you tbh)

It certainly isn't enough to win the game!

Do you have more than 2.5 town reads at the moment?

Yes. 18 town reads

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:10 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:57 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:54 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:51 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:48 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:45 pm Vote iaafr
Vote rabbit8
Vote Ultra
Vote Carotte

Hehe

I voted you btw

JaggedJimmyJay in thousands of fake games past wrote: lol get rekt

It disappoints me to admit that I have probably written that post before. I am 35 years old, and I bet I wrote that post when I was over 30 years old. What the hell am I doing?

You're being funny, congratulations

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:32 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:17 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:10 am You're being funny, congratulations

That makes me feel decidedly unrekt

You're kinda fishy

Sorry, I can be more traditionally smart ass

God jjj, you're such a boomer. Get rekt.

Porscha's entry to the game seemed a bit off to me, primarily for her exchange with me. "I voted you btw" followed by chummy joking when I asked about it felt awkward.

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Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:31 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:13 am JJJ
SCOTTY
TUTUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Town ^

Not v
LC Because lol
Porscha because of tutuu


====
Everyone else

????

SVS - 3P

Wait why is your read of me tied to tutuu

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:46 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:35 am read the thread

Ugh..................

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:47 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:37 am idk if this helps but ive read every post and im also not sure why rondo is tying porscha to me but id be a fool to be puzzled by rondo cooking. rondo is rondo. rondo does rondo things. the ebbs and flows

He told me to read the thread to figure it out. What did you do

This is slightly better. It's not much, but at least it presents a capacity for moving the game.

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Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:05 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:10 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:35 am

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:31 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:17 am @Zenon has been posting without having read her role pm just clarifying and remembering for myself too to not read into what shes said so far as ai

Hm? How do you figure she hasnt?

U get ur role pm by joining epi's discord server. Then u wait for him to assign u to ur channel. Zenon started posting itt 1 min after joining the server. She isnt assigned to her channel yet i see her name being white and not red, she doesnt have the role "Character" like others yet. Epi is asleep. This is similar to how Martin caught Lime posting without having read his role pm

Not a defense of neon just an fyi if you have been paying attention I was posting without knowing my role pm at the start because I had no clue there was a discord till tutuu mentioned it

I was also posting without knowing my alignment, for the record

I forgot about this. If true, it might render some of my previous thoughts meaningless. Porscha could you please indicate about where you started posting with knowledge of your role?

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Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:04 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:15 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:13 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

vivax goat

have a townread

and get outta here. u earned it

:eyebrow: earned a tr for making a vote? lmao

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:06 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:00 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:59 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:32 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:10 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

In a game i played w wolf creature recently on fol he posted a bit, got caught, then left wolf chat middle of the day, got chopped. He hates playing mafia (like scum)

But Creature hasn't even posted yet? It's not like he posted and dipped, he just hasn't been here.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:16 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Ok these votes are just random at this point. Why are there 2 voters on a 0-poster?

why not? killing a d1 zero poster is +ev for both teams. Wolves get an easy miselim and town get rid of someone who isnt posting. Either way its good and the later mentioned reason that creature low posts as wolf so its +ev for him to be a wolf

based so lets kill sean

>sean easily found as town
>"lets kill sean before he has done anything"
>?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:07 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:04 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:04 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:15 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:13 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

vivax goat

have a townread

and get outta here. u earned it

:eyebrow: earned a tr for making a vote? lmao

not just any vote. my vote. also ur maf

hey nice read you're really nailing trying to shade everyone who hasn't posted in the last 6 hours despite 2 of them being notably polarized

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:01 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:13 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:07 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:04 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:04 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:15 pm

vivax goat

have a townread

and get outta here. u earned it

:eyebrow: earned a tr for making a vote? lmao

not just any vote. my vote. also ur maf

hey nice read you're really nailing trying to shade everyone who hasn't posted in the last 6 hours despite 2 of them being notably polarized

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

Which 2?

I havent read everything so might be more but me and sean are the 2 I was talking about

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:02 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:37 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:06 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:00 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:59 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:32 pm
But Creature hasn't even posted yet? It's not like he posted and dipped, he just hasn't been here.

Ok these votes are just random at this point. Why are there 2 voters on a 0-poster?

why not? killing a d1 zero poster is +ev for both teams. Wolves get an easy miselim and town get rid of someone who isnt posting. Either way its good and the later mentioned reason that creature low posts as wolf so its +ev for him to be a wolf

based so lets kill sean

>sean easily found as town
>"lets kill sean before he has done anything"
>?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

isnt this a very typical wolf porscha post?

@Scotty @S~V~S from hotdog fingers. same thing no? the tone

Lol why arent you actually combating my point?

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:07 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:04 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:02 pm Lol why arent you actually combating my point?

which points? why im scumreading u and sean? u said it urself. ur polarized. ur not being towny. so i have to think ur maf

1) you said I wasnt, so even if I say I am, you are going against your own read of me to make this push
2) how am I not being towny? Any wolf could just say "Oinga boinga person isnt town"

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:09 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:06 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:05 pm How can you just at people to sheep you

me pinging svs and scotty? i was asking them on their opinion. since they also played in the referenced game, vs u

I see you arent bothering to ask people in the game playing with me right now for their reads? Why? You're like, leading people into a conclusion you're pushing

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:12 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:10 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:07 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:04 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:02 pm Lol why arent you actually combating my point?

which points? why im scumreading u and sean? u said it urself. ur polarized. ur not being towny. so i have to think ur maf

1) you said I wasnt, so even if I say I am, you are going against your own read of me to make this push
2) how am I not being towny? Any wolf could just say "Oinga boinga person isnt town"

1) true but i wasnt thinking too much. i mostly just wanted to say "u said it urself" coz it sounded cool. and then i went along with it

2) what thing have u done that makes u feel like u deserve to be townread?

I dont need to be super mega obvious town 24 hours into the game to not get bullshit polarize argumented especially by you. How am I supposed to not see you as being opportunistic by making this argument that you just said you dont believe in

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:14 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:12 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:09 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:06 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:05 pm How can you just at people to sheep you

me pinging svs and scotty? i was asking them on their opinion. since they also played in the referenced game, vs u

I see you arent bothering to ask people in the game playing with me right now for their reads? Why? You're like, leading people into a conclusion you're pushing

what? i shared my scumread on u. i double checked with scotty and svs. thats it. i dont need to ask ppl for their opinions, they're already giving them, and im reading them. i specifically asked svs and scotty since they played vs wolf u recently

Lol

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:16 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:13 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:12 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:10 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:07 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:04 pm which points? why im scumreading u and sean? u said it urself. ur polarized. ur not being towny. so i have to think ur maf

1) you said I wasnt, so even if I say I am, you are going against your own read of me to make this push
2) how am I not being towny? Any wolf could just say "Oinga boinga person isnt town"

1) true but i wasnt thinking too much. i mostly just wanted to say "u said it urself" coz it sounded cool. and then i went along with it

2) what thing have u done that makes u feel like u deserve to be townread?

I dont need to be super mega obvious town 24 hours into the game to not get bullshit polarize argumented especially by you. How am I supposed to not see you as being opportunistic by making this argument that you just said you dont believe in

my role is pretty towny so cope + seethe + mald + L + bozo

Assuming you arent lying about the role, assuming it has to be town, assuming jjj isnt wolf with you, assuming,,,,,,,,,,,

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:19 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:17 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:16 pm Assuming you arent lying about the role, assuming it has to be town, assuming jjj isnt wolf with you, assuming,,,,,,,,,,,

There there

>:( dont TOUCH ME

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:28 pm Yes yes the joke was funny earlier

Your ability to make me have a giggle will not stop me from SR'ing you

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:34 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:31 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:28 pm Yes yes the joke was funny earlier

Your ability to make me have a giggle will not stop me from SR'ing you

Do you believe the comparisons tutuu has drawn between you in this game and you as mafia in the past are unfounded?

Yes

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:34 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:34 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:31 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:28 pm Yes yes the joke was funny earlier

Your ability to make me have a giggle will not stop me from SR'ing you

Do you believe the comparisons tutuu has drawn between you in this game and you as mafia in the past are unfounded?

Yes

Everything she has said about me is pointless and unfounded

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:37 pm I've never seen tutuu wolf but town tutuu doesnt try to just wolf read me with no actual reasons. Anyone can say to anyone "you arent obv town in these first 24 hours like most other players" so why me? She thinks it's an easy push or, if I am being as generous as possible, at best it's a reaction test because she wants to be able to just locktown me by getting me to town tell. But she knows she doesnt have to do the latter to tr me so I am lead to believe it is wolf motivated

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:45 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:40 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:38 pm I havent obv towned but her and most people in this game knows the chances of me doing that in the first 24 hours isnt likely anyway. Like in se7en, mac sr'd me for the same unfounded reasons, and tutuu let it happen cuz she was a sin. And now she is using it here

I WAS TOWN i had u as townread i just wasnt invested in the game

... really?

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:57 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:45 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:40 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:38 pm I havent obv towned but her and most people in this game knows the chances of me doing that in the first 24 hours isnt likely anyway. Like in se7en, mac sr'd me for the same unfounded reasons, and tutuu let it happen cuz she was a sin. And now she is using it here

I WAS TOWN i had u as townread i just wasnt invested in the game

... really?

Okay OKAY that was my bad lmao but even your point that svs only rands mafia early was a scummy comment so liiiike

Porscha went after tutuu with some fervor. The spirit of the accusations looks okay even if I don't agree with the premise. This is probably the first sliver of the energized Porscha sass I expect to see from her as town.

Spoiler: show

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:35 pm Oh. A scotty wagon. Press x

I had noted earlier that Porscha's non-tutuu reads were still limited, and I asked her to give some. She responded with "Scotty was kinda towny", which provides a backdrop for the above declination of the Scotty wagon. Consistency is simple, but at least there's some kind of path leading here.

Spoiler: show

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:38 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:33 pm I think scotty is town. I could be wrong ofc. I aint self pressing on him. Idc if i get chopped

You are being very towny

Lemme get my white knight gear out of the closet

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:39 pm Hear my decree

Vote shall not occur on tutuu

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:40 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:39 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:37 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:35 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:35 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:42 am

towny post

Are you good lol x.x

I was sleepy

Sweepy tutuu lose bwain cells

Cant lose what i never had

Here queen, take my shield

This is a significant reversal, and I don't really know what brought it on. I think I like it anyway, as it is difficult to assign a "mafia agenda" to Porscha swapping her strongest read in this fashion. Folks are allowed to reconsider their reads. It'd still be ideal for Porscha to expand on what she found towny in this moment.

Separate note: it appears Porscha ended Day 1 without a vote in the poll. That's weird.

~~~

It's a mixed bag overall. My mental impression of Porscha was of someone just kind of existing in the game, and I think she is at least better than that. There are some good things in here. I'd be more comfortable with greater clarity on the tutuu reversal and why no Day 1 vote.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:03 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:43 pm No but actual town sean on town rico vibes and wolf brad running with it vibes lol

Meh, I can see your perspective, but I think scum!Rico town!Lime is more likely. Minimally though, Rico/Lime not w/w since Lime kinda sheeping me and not independently pushing Rico will give me more towncred than Lime for a Rico-flip, so it doesn't really make sense as a bus.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:56 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:54 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:53 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:50 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:48 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:42 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:28 pm

Spoiler: show

@JaggedJimmyJay

My reasoning for voting Ricochet when it got later on Day 1, was because of this post.

Felt like it was scummy just because it was basically like what Seanzie said. Too much commentary on random things, not really applying reads on most of the slots in the game after the "analysis"?

You wouldn't sheep sean on a rico read for your own benefit would you

You wouldnt download a car, would you

Nah I had this read myself but Seanzie kind of explained it a bit better than I can.

So... did you say it first?

Nah Seanzie said it first but I was voting Rico after all of that.

LMAO OKAY SOOO my point stands!

Does it really matter though if this is right and Rico ends up flipping mafia? Especially when I was voting there most of Day 1, annnnd the rest of town decided to build Vivax vs Scotty wagons?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:53 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:50 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:48 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:42 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:28 pm

Spoiler: show

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:11 am Catching up from my wagonz post (#412). 7 pages oh boy. Sprawling notes incoming.

Vivax rebutted that he has cooled off due to gamestate i.e. sandbagging / vague gamereads to skirt being AI read. I don't think I grasp his pov, but it also doesn't eliminate the contrast of having looked into player's texts and intentions early on. One of the two approaches rings superficial.

Creature surfaces:
-- begs for mercy right away
-- points to meta of similar activity; to note, there is open disinterest stated in that game, which has so far not been expressed here; I reserve judgement on whether this is to save face or genuine
-- rebuttal that they would ghost under pressure, not entirely (and game-breakingly) is alright
-- questions tutuu on focusing on zeroposters, but townreads them for lulz-just-trollin
-- focuses on Seanzie inactivity and potential Rondo - JJJ buddying

Probably ok with Creature atp.

---

Porscha more active:
-- statement on having also played AI-cluelesss for a while
-- startled by the idea of Seanzie being lynched
-- frustration at getting the polarized / not active enough treatment (from knowledgeable-on-meta players, especially)
-- ok so main rebuttal is that all the suss from tutuu is untrue and unfouonded
-- #674 is also a rebuttal worth considering (along with Se7en similar meta -- edit: though apparently some claims about that meta are not accurate?)

On the fence, but last posts read a lot better.

---

JJJ desires more Martin

---

tutuu chaosy with her instant townreads and vote switches.

and then roleclaims.
===reactions:
Scotty ok's it.
SVS lemme think about it's it.
JJJ disapproves of tutuu wagon regardless' it.
Rondo annyoed at early claim's it.
Porscha expresses reservations of WIFOM's it.
Zenon doesn't find it confirmable's it and disapprove of protection choice's it.

---

Sudden Porscha push (tutuu, scotty, JJJ on page), coupled with very inactive / complete inactives. Ergh. Porscha or one other individual name on this list would ring fine, but creating a wolf scenario of whatif's and zero-poster's feels like driving attention outside a lot of actual gamestate.

JJJ later states it has more to do with the expectation of an active, town Porscha.
Scotty later likes the pushback.

State of push now...? ?

--

Zenon votes Vivax.
Zenon votes Tutuu.
Townreads Porscha.
Asks for Tutuu's protection. Then to use it on Rondo.
Wolfreads tutuu's Seanzie vote.
Zenon votes Scotty.

Hm. Woke up with the vibe that it's still all tantrum and empty voting, BUT the read into tutuu is acknowledgeable. Best part of the ISO by far, atm.

--

SVS surfaces
-- more mechtalk and susstalk in relation to tutuu
-- back and forths with Scotty
-- step back on tutuu after roleclaim

Growing feeling that her interests and topics are inversely proportional to having made any actual read or focused elsewhere. There is potential in skirting with this. Or just preparing to tunnel on those two suss's.

--

Rondo surfaces and sort of sprawls all over. I don't find the time and resources to judge all of that. Pass.

Did not expect him to defend zeroposter-D1-lynching, tho.

Some proposal about the item pick order on D2 that I don't understand one bit.

At least seems to come up with a JJJ + Scotty + Vivax scenario. Some JJJ - Scotty interaction is perhaps worth analyzing, but his mashup of quotes also felt from all over the place.
Does make a point about both of his suspects brushing it off with hahahoohoo's.

I am feeling a decent to light to strong pass on Rondo material toDay.

--

Seanzie!

-- abandons all hope of catching up first 12 pages
Funny how JJJ suggests that he look into mostly inactives. Ergh.
-- townreads Porscha. Repeatedly. Calls it a tell thing. States it was accurate a lot of times in previous games.
A Porscha / Seanzie w/w world would already start to look kinda dumbmove, judging from Seanzie's moves.
-- rebuttal on same "polarized" argument from tutuu (unfounded, unrealistic, unproved meta-wise)
-- lol mushrooms
-- fine's falcon

uuhhhh k

--

Martin!

Bookmarking his longass post to look at later. Maybe.

--

votes on Metababy
-- tutuu why
-- Martin have to read the longass post to probably figure out why
-- LimeCoke why

another wagon with little... meat on it (CSI_hiyaaa_mp2

--

Speaking of LimeCoke: resurfaces,
-- apparently forgot to vote, surprised he isn't getting flak.
-- also considers Vivax, Motobot or Porscha voting

uhhhh k

--

Falcon surfaces
-- too long doesn't read Rondo's case
-- vibes with Sean on several levels

uuuuh k

--

Meatbaby surfaces and... wew. That is some tone. Da fuk.

@JaggedJimmyJay

My reasoning for voting Ricochet when it got later on Day 1, was because of this post.

Felt like it was scummy just because it was basically like what Seanzie said. Too much commentary on random things, not really applying reads on most of the slots in the game after the "analysis"?

You wouldn't sheep sean on a rico read for your own benefit would you

You wouldnt download a car, would you

Nah I had this read myself but Seanzie kind of explained it a bit better than I can.

So... did you say it first?

Nah Seanzie said it first but I was voting Rico after all of that.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:51 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:49 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:44 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:40 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:47 am I have made a terrible mistake. Scotty I'm sorry.

Not me forgetting you were in the game LMAO

It's ok. I understand that I'm forgettable. Better that way. Keeps the Fuzz off my trail.

I dont think it helps your rands...

Ah, subtle jab there. Cute.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:50 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:43 pm No but actual town sean on town rico vibes and wolf brad running with it vibes lol

I've literally had this read for most of the game, minus the 1 random time I pulled away because of Rico's reaction to votes.

But that was like 1 small thing amongst the rest of his game where it isn't as towny and solvey as people think it is.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:50 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:48 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:42 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:28 pm

Spoiler: show

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:11 am Catching up from my wagonz post (#412). 7 pages oh boy. Sprawling notes incoming.

Vivax rebutted that he has cooled off due to gamestate i.e. sandbagging / vague gamereads to skirt being AI read. I don't think I grasp his pov, but it also doesn't eliminate the contrast of having looked into player's texts and intentions early on. One of the two approaches rings superficial.

Creature surfaces:
-- begs for mercy right away
-- points to meta of similar activity; to note, there is open disinterest stated in that game, which has so far not been expressed here; I reserve judgement on whether this is to save face or genuine
-- rebuttal that they would ghost under pressure, not entirely (and game-breakingly) is alright
-- questions tutuu on focusing on zeroposters, but townreads them for lulz-just-trollin
-- focuses on Seanzie inactivity and potential Rondo - JJJ buddying

Probably ok with Creature atp.

---

Porscha more active:
-- statement on having also played AI-cluelesss for a while
-- startled by the idea of Seanzie being lynched
-- frustration at getting the polarized / not active enough treatment (from knowledgeable-on-meta players, especially)
-- ok so main rebuttal is that all the suss from tutuu is untrue and unfouonded
-- #674 is also a rebuttal worth considering (along with Se7en similar meta -- edit: though apparently some claims about that meta are not accurate?)

On the fence, but last posts read a lot better.

---

JJJ desires more Martin

---

tutuu chaosy with her instant townreads and vote switches.

and then roleclaims.
===reactions:
Scotty ok's it.
SVS lemme think about it's it.
JJJ disapproves of tutuu wagon regardless' it.
Rondo annyoed at early claim's it.
Porscha expresses reservations of WIFOM's it.
Zenon doesn't find it confirmable's it and disapprove of protection choice's it.

---

Sudden Porscha push (tutuu, scotty, JJJ on page), coupled with very inactive / complete inactives. Ergh. Porscha or one other individual name on this list would ring fine, but creating a wolf scenario of whatif's and zero-poster's feels like driving attention outside a lot of actual gamestate.

JJJ later states it has more to do with the expectation of an active, town Porscha.
Scotty later likes the pushback.

State of push now...? ?

--

Zenon votes Vivax.
Zenon votes Tutuu.
Townreads Porscha.
Asks for Tutuu's protection. Then to use it on Rondo.
Wolfreads tutuu's Seanzie vote.
Zenon votes Scotty.

Hm. Woke up with the vibe that it's still all tantrum and empty voting, BUT the read into tutuu is acknowledgeable. Best part of the ISO by far, atm.

--

SVS surfaces
-- more mechtalk and susstalk in relation to tutuu
-- back and forths with Scotty
-- step back on tutuu after roleclaim

Growing feeling that her interests and topics are inversely proportional to having made any actual read or focused elsewhere. There is potential in skirting with this. Or just preparing to tunnel on those two suss's.

--

Rondo surfaces and sort of sprawls all over. I don't find the time and resources to judge all of that. Pass.

Did not expect him to defend zeroposter-D1-lynching, tho.

Some proposal about the item pick order on D2 that I don't understand one bit.

At least seems to come up with a JJJ + Scotty + Vivax scenario. Some JJJ - Scotty interaction is perhaps worth analyzing, but his mashup of quotes also felt from all over the place.
Does make a point about both of his suspects brushing it off with hahahoohoo's.

I am feeling a decent to light to strong pass on Rondo material toDay.

--

Seanzie!

-- abandons all hope of catching up first 12 pages
Funny how JJJ suggests that he look into mostly inactives. Ergh.
-- townreads Porscha. Repeatedly. Calls it a tell thing. States it was accurate a lot of times in previous games.
A Porscha / Seanzie w/w world would already start to look kinda dumbmove, judging from Seanzie's moves.
-- rebuttal on same "polarized" argument from tutuu (unfounded, unrealistic, unproved meta-wise)
-- lol mushrooms
-- fine's falcon

uuhhhh k

--

Martin!

Bookmarking his longass post to look at later. Maybe.

--

votes on Metababy
-- tutuu why
-- Martin have to read the longass post to probably figure out why
-- LimeCoke why

another wagon with little... meat on it (CSI_hiyaaa_mp2

--

Speaking of LimeCoke: resurfaces,
-- apparently forgot to vote, surprised he isn't getting flak.
-- also considers Vivax, Motobot or Porscha voting

uhhhh k

--

Falcon surfaces
-- too long doesn't read Rondo's case
-- vibes with Sean on several levels

uuuuh k

--

Meatbaby surfaces and... wew. That is some tone. Da fuk.

@JaggedJimmyJay

My reasoning for voting Ricochet when it got later on Day 1, was because of this post.

Felt like it was scummy just because it was basically like what Seanzie said. Too much commentary on random things, not really applying reads on most of the slots in the game after the "analysis"?

You wouldn't sheep sean on a rico read for your own benefit would you

You wouldnt download a car, would you

Nah I had this read myself but Seanzie kind of explained it a bit better than I can.

So... did you say it first?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:48 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:42 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:28 pm

Spoiler: show

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:11 am Catching up from my wagonz post (#412). 7 pages oh boy. Sprawling notes incoming.

Vivax rebutted that he has cooled off due to gamestate i.e. sandbagging / vague gamereads to skirt being AI read. I don't think I grasp his pov, but it also doesn't eliminate the contrast of having looked into player's texts and intentions early on. One of the two approaches rings superficial.

Creature surfaces:
-- begs for mercy right away
-- points to meta of similar activity; to note, there is open disinterest stated in that game, which has so far not been expressed here; I reserve judgement on whether this is to save face or genuine
-- rebuttal that they would ghost under pressure, not entirely (and game-breakingly) is alright
-- questions tutuu on focusing on zeroposters, but townreads them for lulz-just-trollin
-- focuses on Seanzie inactivity and potential Rondo - JJJ buddying

Probably ok with Creature atp.

---

Porscha more active:
-- statement on having also played AI-cluelesss for a while
-- startled by the idea of Seanzie being lynched
-- frustration at getting the polarized / not active enough treatment (from knowledgeable-on-meta players, especially)
-- ok so main rebuttal is that all the suss from tutuu is untrue and unfouonded
-- #674 is also a rebuttal worth considering (along with Se7en similar meta -- edit: though apparently some claims about that meta are not accurate?)

On the fence, but last posts read a lot better.

---

JJJ desires more Martin

---

tutuu chaosy with her instant townreads and vote switches.

and then roleclaims.
===reactions:
Scotty ok's it.
SVS lemme think about it's it.
JJJ disapproves of tutuu wagon regardless' it.
Rondo annyoed at early claim's it.
Porscha expresses reservations of WIFOM's it.
Zenon doesn't find it confirmable's it and disapprove of protection choice's it.

---

Sudden Porscha push (tutuu, scotty, JJJ on page), coupled with very inactive / complete inactives. Ergh. Porscha or one other individual name on this list would ring fine, but creating a wolf scenario of whatif's and zero-poster's feels like driving attention outside a lot of actual gamestate.

JJJ later states it has more to do with the expectation of an active, town Porscha.
Scotty later likes the pushback.

State of push now...? ?

--

Zenon votes Vivax.
Zenon votes Tutuu.
Townreads Porscha.
Asks for Tutuu's protection. Then to use it on Rondo.
Wolfreads tutuu's Seanzie vote.
Zenon votes Scotty.

Hm. Woke up with the vibe that it's still all tantrum and empty voting, BUT the read into tutuu is acknowledgeable. Best part of the ISO by far, atm.

--

SVS surfaces
-- more mechtalk and susstalk in relation to tutuu
-- back and forths with Scotty
-- step back on tutuu after roleclaim

Growing feeling that her interests and topics are inversely proportional to having made any actual read or focused elsewhere. There is potential in skirting with this. Or just preparing to tunnel on those two suss's.

--

Rondo surfaces and sort of sprawls all over. I don't find the time and resources to judge all of that. Pass.

Did not expect him to defend zeroposter-D1-lynching, tho.

Some proposal about the item pick order on D2 that I don't understand one bit.

At least seems to come up with a JJJ + Scotty + Vivax scenario. Some JJJ - Scotty interaction is perhaps worth analyzing, but his mashup of quotes also felt from all over the place.
Does make a point about both of his suspects brushing it off with hahahoohoo's.

I am feeling a decent to light to strong pass on Rondo material toDay.

--

Seanzie!

-- abandons all hope of catching up first 12 pages
Funny how JJJ suggests that he look into mostly inactives. Ergh.
-- townreads Porscha. Repeatedly. Calls it a tell thing. States it was accurate a lot of times in previous games.
A Porscha / Seanzie w/w world would already start to look kinda dumbmove, judging from Seanzie's moves.
-- rebuttal on same "polarized" argument from tutuu (unfounded, unrealistic, unproved meta-wise)
-- lol mushrooms
-- fine's falcon

uuhhhh k

--

Martin!

Bookmarking his longass post to look at later. Maybe.

--

votes on Metababy
-- tutuu why
-- Martin have to read the longass post to probably figure out why
-- LimeCoke why

another wagon with little... meat on it (CSI_hiyaaa_mp2

--

Speaking of LimeCoke: resurfaces,
-- apparently forgot to vote, surprised he isn't getting flak.
-- also considers Vivax, Motobot or Porscha voting

uhhhh k

--

Falcon surfaces
-- too long doesn't read Rondo's case
-- vibes with Sean on several levels

uuuuh k

--

Meatbaby surfaces and... wew. That is some tone. Da fuk.

@JaggedJimmyJay

My reasoning for voting Ricochet when it got later on Day 1, was because of this post.

Felt like it was scummy just because it was basically like what Seanzie said. Too much commentary on random things, not really applying reads on most of the slots in the game after the "analysis"?

You wouldn't sheep sean on a rico read for your own benefit would you

You wouldnt download a car, would you

Nah I had this read myself but Seanzie kind of explained it a bit better than I can.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:44 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:40 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:47 am I have made a terrible mistake. Scotty I'm sorry.

Not me forgetting you were in the game LMAO

It's ok. I understand that I'm forgettable. Better that way. Keeps the Fuzz off my trail.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:44 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:38 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:28 pm @JaggedJimmyJay

My reasoning for voting Ricochet when it got later on Day 1, was because of this post.

Felt like it was scummy just because it was basically like what Seanzie said. Too much commentary on random things, not really applying reads on most of the slots in the game after the "analysis"?

I appreciate the perspective. I have a reply about that particular gripe, but I'd prefer to discuss it more in-depth when I review Rico. I'll give a quick cliff's notes: commentary without conclusions can be a classically suspicious thing, but I'm not sure that's a charitable interpretation of what Rico posted.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:28 pm

Spoiler: show

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:11 am Catching up from my wagonz post (#412). 7 pages oh boy. Sprawling notes incoming.

Vivax rebutted that he has cooled off due to gamestate i.e. sandbagging / vague gamereads to skirt being AI read. I don't think I grasp his pov, but it also doesn't eliminate the contrast of having looked into player's texts and intentions early on. One of the two approaches rings superficial.

Creature surfaces:
-- begs for mercy right away
-- points to meta of similar activity; to note, there is open disinterest stated in that game, which has so far not been expressed here; I reserve judgement on whether this is to save face or genuine
-- rebuttal that they would ghost under pressure, not entirely (and game-breakingly) is alright
-- questions tutuu on focusing on zeroposters, but townreads them for lulz-just-trollin
-- focuses on Seanzie inactivity and potential Rondo - JJJ buddying

Probably ok with Creature atp.

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Porscha more active:
-- statement on having also played AI-cluelesss for a while
-- startled by the idea of Seanzie being lynched
-- frustration at getting the polarized / not active enough treatment (from knowledgeable-on-meta players, especially)
-- ok so main rebuttal is that all the suss from tutuu is untrue and unfouonded
-- #674 is also a rebuttal worth considering (along with Se7en similar meta -- edit: though apparently some claims about that meta are not accurate?)

On the fence, but last posts read a lot better.

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JJJ desires more Martin

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tutuu chaosy with her instant townreads and vote switches.

and then roleclaims.
===reactions:
Scotty ok's it.
SVS lemme think about it's it.
JJJ disapproves of tutuu wagon regardless' it.
Rondo annyoed at early claim's it.
Porscha expresses reservations of WIFOM's it.
Zenon doesn't find it confirmable's it and disapprove of protection choice's it.

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Sudden Porscha push (tutuu, scotty, JJJ on page), coupled with very inactive / complete inactives. Ergh. Porscha or one other individual name on this list would ring fine, but creating a wolf scenario of whatif's and zero-poster's feels like driving attention outside a lot of actual gamestate.

JJJ later states it has more to do with the expectation of an active, town Porscha.
Scotty later likes the pushback.

State of push now...? ?

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Zenon votes Vivax.
Zenon votes Tutuu.
Townreads Porscha.
Asks for Tutuu's protection. Then to use it on Rondo.
Wolfreads tutuu's Seanzie vote.
Zenon votes Scotty.

Hm. Woke up with the vibe that it's still all tantrum and empty voting, BUT the read into tutuu is acknowledgeable. Best part of the ISO by far, atm.

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SVS surfaces
-- more mechtalk and susstalk in relation to tutuu
-- back and forths with Scotty
-- step back on tutuu after roleclaim

Growing feeling that her interests and topics are inversely proportional to having made any actual read or focused elsewhere. There is potential in skirting with this. Or just preparing to tunnel on those two suss's.

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Rondo surfaces and sort of sprawls all over. I don't find the time and resources to judge all of that. Pass.

Did not expect him to defend zeroposter-D1-lynching, tho.

Some proposal about the item pick order on D2 that I don't understand one bit.

At least seems to come up with a JJJ + Scotty + Vivax scenario. Some JJJ - Scotty interaction is perhaps worth analyzing, but his mashup of quotes also felt from all over the place.
Does make a point about both of his suspects brushing it off with hahahoohoo's.

I am feeling a decent to light to strong pass on Rondo material toDay.

--

Seanzie!

-- abandons all hope of catching up first 12 pages
Funny how JJJ suggests that he look into mostly inactives. Ergh.
-- townreads Porscha. Repeatedly. Calls it a tell thing. States it was accurate a lot of times in previous games.
A Porscha / Seanzie w/w world would already start to look kinda dumbmove, judging from Seanzie's moves.
-- rebuttal on same "polarized" argument from tutuu (unfounded, unrealistic, unproved meta-wise)
-- lol mushrooms
-- fine's falcon

uuhhhh k

--

Martin!

Bookmarking his longass post to look at later. Maybe.

--

votes on Metababy
-- tutuu why
-- Martin have to read the longass post to probably figure out why
-- LimeCoke why

another wagon with little... meat on it (CSI_hiyaaa_mp2

--

Speaking of LimeCoke: resurfaces,
-- apparently forgot to vote, surprised he isn't getting flak.
-- also considers Vivax, Motobot or Porscha voting

uhhhh k

--

Falcon surfaces
-- too long doesn't read Rondo's case
-- vibes with Sean on several levels

uuuuh k

--

Meatbaby surfaces and... wew. That is some tone. Da fuk.

@JaggedJimmyJay

My reasoning for voting Ricochet when it got later on Day 1, was because of this post.

Felt like it was scummy just because it was basically like what Seanzie said. Too much commentary on random things, not really applying reads on most of the slots in the game after the "analysis"?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:47 am I have made a terrible mistake. Scotty I'm sorry.