The Syndicate

I also believe it would have been better to flip wilgy yesterday and I acknowledge that I got cold feet on him cuz the pocket was just so good

large inhale

however I fear flippy wilgy without enough conversation to figure out who his partner would be even if he does flip wolf. additionally if wilgy flips town I feel like oscar is gonna come in here gunning for me as the wolf between me and wilgy and that's just game

I don't even know what i'm looking for when I ISO people

like do you guys know how easy it would be for the maf team to be something like nook / ruri

this game is giving me the heebie jeebies. pyxxy probs died from not being suspected at all

obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:33 pm You have a positive motion on Creature?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:34 pm Yes thats what I said

obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:35 pm Lol if Creature got outed by an error.. that's not a red check though, but that increases odds of being mafia, no?

obscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:35 pm But I feel like Creature's treatment around Jack was extremely unpaired.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:36 pm Idk there seem to be a lot of moving roles, and they could have visited by someone to trigger it

Its also possible they're a mason lol

nothing came of this eh

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:18 pm I have a...its not really a difference check, idk what to call it, anyways I have mech info that there's at least one mafia between ruri/schia/falcon, I think its probably ruri

if this was legitimate mech info then he should be looking at ruri/falcon................

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:39 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:19 am

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:15 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:14 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:56 pm If we kill wilgy over my objections and he flips town I get to decide tomorrow lol

who is best counter wagon

I already know the answer to this

whomstve

He's gonna say me lol

I want nook to tell me who he wants to vote

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:15 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:14 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:56 pm If we kill wilgy over my objections and he flips town I get to decide tomorrow lol

who is best counter wagon

I already know the answer to this

whomstve

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:56 pm If we kill wilgy over my objections and he flips town I get to decide tomorrow lol

who is best counter wagon

obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:08 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:05 pm

obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:59 pm But Wilgy is literally pushing to kill Neon here. He ain't killing someone he's trying to push on and who he ended on last EOD

Well, the D6 poll shows he did EOD on Neon...thoughts?

Yeah that's what I'm saying. Like it wouldn't make sense for w!Wilgy to kill Neon when he was set up to start pushing them again coming into today

I've been engaged all game and evaluating. You've seemed to have waken up a bit today but I've already been here and explored angles, including Neon. Im hard locked into Wilgy/Porcha/ NANOOK POE and I think it's just Wilgy/Porcha.

you really sincerely believe that was w/w eh

Oscar speaking of dead towns who had wilgy in poe. So did multiple of them also have you in poe. I have not forgotten and you should not either

K I'm at work just popped in. Glad pyxxy died tbh I was about to tinfoil a case today

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:52 pm Further, can you describe to me as to why it's not Neon?

Only thing neon has going for her is she looked really unaligned with sabi early on

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:56 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:52 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:49 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:42 pm why dont we all flash wagon pyxxy then

hy do you insist on acting scummy?

First you spend tons of posts pushing Ruri, then drop it completely. Then you're pushing Schia. Now you're pushing me.

Note, I'm saying pushing. Not investigating, not really creating a case against because your only effort was in the Ruri case and when that didn't take hold you gave up on it really easier. Nor did you make those posts easy to digest for the rest of town. There's nothing wrong with having an investigative style that relies on re-reading and quoting as you go. But it was never made to convince anyone in a meaningful way. It was fluff to try and distract town.

You are honestly working your way out of my null reads into my bad vibes section. Your actions today and honestly a bit of yesterday too especially at EOD make no sense for a towny. Falcon is a great example of did weird shit but things that could clearly have a town benefit.

Yesterday you begged for a flash wagon and you got one. Today you're doing the same thing again.

Why are you so afraid of a Wigly flip, Porscha?

I di dn't read all that when you were incorrect that I have pushed schia at all

I am being pocketed by wilgy or am correct on wilgy so if he goes he goes it's probably best for game state but my feelings are in the way

ell I hope you take an antacid and feel better.

lol what?

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:49 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:47 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:46 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:43 pm I mean sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss if you guys wanna flip wilgy go for it I just can't do it myself

Feel free to move your vote to Schiavetto and let it rand. I would move out but I'm afraid of the Neon wagon taking over.

I am screeching like a majestic eagle b/c I dont think it's wilgy or schia I am quite stresst

Nightmare case scenario it's falcon45ca and pyxxy and both alternated kills to avoid being tracked by two different players.

I still believe should be at least one wolf in DrWilgy/NANOOK/Schiavetto.

this is probably true

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:49 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:42 pm why dont we all flash wagon pyxxy then

hy do you insist on acting scummy?

First you spend tons of posts pushing Ruri, then drop it completely. Then you're pushing Schia. Now you're pushing me.

Note, I'm saying pushing. Not investigating, not really creating a case against because your only effort was in the Ruri case and when that didn't take hold you gave up on it really easier. Nor did you make those posts easy to digest for the rest of town. There's nothing wrong with having an investigative style that relies on re-reading and quoting as you go. But it was never made to convince anyone in a meaningful way. It was fluff to try and distract town.

You are honestly working your way out of my null reads into my bad vibes section. Your actions today and honestly a bit of yesterday too especially at EOD make no sense for a towny. Falcon is a great example of did weird shit but things that could clearly have a town benefit.

Yesterday you begged for a flash wagon and you got one. Today you're doing the same thing again.

Why are you so afraid of a Wigly flip, Porscha?

I di dn't read all that when you were incorrect that I have pushed schia at all

I am being pocketed by wilgy or am correct on wilgy so if he goes he goes it's probably best for game state but my feelings are in the way

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:46 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:43 pm I mean sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss if you guys wanna flip wilgy go for it I just can't do it myself

Feel free to move your vote to Schiavetto and let it rand. I would move out but I'm afraid of the Neon wagon taking over.

I am screeching like a majestic eagle b/c I dont think it's wilgy or schia I am quite stresst

i'm skeptical of nook but his accusations of who moved when lined up with others so it appears accurate and idk what to do

I mean sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss if you guys wanna flip wilgy go for it I just can't do it myself

why dont we all flash wagon pyxxy then

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:40 pm I'm giving my track to falcon45ca. If falcon45ca gets lynched before I die then I'm giving it to pyxxy.

cuz pyxxy also in your poe?

yes falcon flash wagon porscha haha that sounds like so much

FALCON FLASH WAGON?

hello where the hell is everybody lmao what is this eod

obscurity wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:17 pm Like I do think it's reasonable to say not to ignore them though but also they should not be the only reason

The Neon wagon at this point feels like the worst possible thing and I hard veto that. I think Wilgy is town but the flip should 100% be in Wilgy/Schia. or we should've talked about that earlier I don't want Anne crap again

ugh I do remember neon being really unaligned with sabi that's right. fugg

flattery doesnt work well on me irl but wilgy does it really well in mafia I guess so i'm pocketed to hell and back
don't think it's schia but like i mentioned before I think I just inherently love schia so i'm biased
neon has good unalignment with sabi unless we believe it was early bus but it doesnt seem like it especially with anne flipping town sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo who wants to vote nook or falcon today mates (i know wilgy doesnt)

(i think pyxxy been pretty town but oscar's reads are starting to lose me)

I honestly don't think schia is wolf but maybe i'm getting snowed

she's being sarcastic

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:02 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:00 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:23 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:05 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:58 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:53 pm Falc, my gut told me while drunk to sheep Porscha as they had become a point of enlightenment that I'm surprised a religion hasn't been built on.

Now that I am aware, I'm no longer as enticed to join said Porscha devout following, but still think they are town.

See, that's the trick...religion isn't about enlightenment, that's a red herring.



Sheeping Porscha, eh? What was your favorite read of hers?

The push on me.

It's wrong, but I think it's wrong for the correct reasons. Porscha I think is really trying to solve the more important questions and the reactions I got referring to the suspicion on me my gut screams is towny.

Porscha's take on you is kinda bad, I think. The "you know you'll need to be flipped" is rough but I at least understand someone having this perspective because I know I'll need to be flipped.

Porscha's stance on Ruri I think is better than the stance on you.

I found it odd that she seemed locked jnto town not being able to solve the last Maf w/o my flip.


Like, why couldn't last RD lynch have hit Maf? Or this RD? It struck me as strange

what are you referring to here exactly? I never said that

You didn't say that, it's what I gathered from what you'd said re: my flip being necessary for town win

it was a tongue in cheek joke that i'm tinfoiling you and the comment I had responded to prodded me to reiterate that

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:25 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:08 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:00 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:58 pm

obscurity wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:56 pm I don't think Neon is mafia Wilgs

Ruri I go back and forth tinfoiling

I just don't find a team elsewhere. If Shia/Ruri? Maybe?

Idk Ruri without counter claim, plus the reaction to Nook gimmick.

Do you get towny vibes off Shia? Ruri?

Shia not really? Like, and this applies to Neon as well. They are players that state "I play game like X" and then it's damned if you do/damned if you don't from then out as the "I play game like X" can always be the arguable excuse.

I did get towny vibes from Ruri during nook gimmick, but they have since faded.

ou prefer to vote Neon over Schia, when Schia is the viable counterwagon to you, because....?

cuz wilgy is town

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:23 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:05 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:58 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:53 pm Falc, my gut told me while drunk to sheep Porscha as they had become a point of enlightenment that I'm surprised a religion hasn't been built on.

Now that I am aware, I'm no longer as enticed to join said Porscha devout following, but still think they are town.

See, that's the trick...religion isn't about enlightenment, that's a red herring.



Sheeping Porscha, eh? What was your favorite read of hers?

The push on me.

It's wrong, but I think it's wrong for the correct reasons. Porscha I think is really trying to solve the more important questions and the reactions I got referring to the suspicion on me my gut screams is towny.

Porscha's take on you is kinda bad, I think. The "you know you'll need to be flipped" is rough but I at least understand someone having this perspective because I know I'll need to be flipped.

Porscha's stance on Ruri I think is better than the stance on you.

I found it odd that she seemed locked jnto town not being able to solve the last Maf w/o my flip.


Like, why couldn't last RD lynch have hit Maf? Or this RD? It struck me as strange

what are you referring to here exactly? I never said that

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:00 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:27 pm In a dramatic turn of events I am boycotting a wilgy flip today

id you have any thoughts about my POE post, which you asked for?

Would you flip Schia over Ruri today? You were very gung ho about Ruri during the first half of this phase, but that seems to have gone away?

ruri can always get voted off for all I care just b/c I can't ever find her even if she's town. but I didn't like seeing posts yesterday saying she seemed towny cuz I didn't agree so I cased her thinking it might have been a misclear from other people but idk. she doesn't interact so idk what to do

In a dramatic turn of events I am boycotting a wilgy flip today

god you ever have a glass of wine and you start sweating like a dog

anyway pyxxy what's your world state looking like rn? top 3 poe?

I really have no idea how many posts I do or do not have left but it can't be too many

ayo I got a pocket wilgy!

I kinda wonder if sean was even the target. it could have been creature and sean just took the hit :/

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:12 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:06 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:02 pm Also something that stood out from yesterday that I didn't realize was kinda sketch at the time was your push on Falcon as well Porscha.

"You know you need to be flipped" is kinda bad. Jack gave us what we needed to read the slot. Falcon is super clear and his past day cycle has been classic town falc.

sorry I don't really agree. I think I will use the "low wim falcon is the hard to read falcon" line of reasoning you have used on me this game. thanks

Falc was anything but low wim last cycle. I think that's more than enough, and for you to still think it's Falcon after yesterday and the Jack spew and the nook (I think) check is silly.

I don't necessarily think falcon is mafia. but i'm not hard town clearing him. half of his posts are just one liners or naked votes. you could just be "using" him like jack did for all I know.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:38 pm hink about it. Sabi claimed that anne had motion. That could have been to cover scum scanning anne N1, in case someone else also motion detected anne, or tracked anne, or something like that, and saw that anne was visited/moved?

Am I thinking through this correctly @Porscha ? Or am I getting a mechanic mixed up here?

yes, I think that's most likely possible. it's also possible sabi could have made it up knowing damn well someone would probably visit anne anyway and was trying to save her ass since you could tell sabi felt pressured when she revealed. lol

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:22 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:10 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:04 pm Like, just yeet me for my jack interactions, then yeet Porscha and the game should be as good as solved after that though.

in what universe does that solve the game lmao. what do you expect to happen after you flip and then I flip. like what spew do you expect to be spewed

offering to trade in this scenario, even if genuinely coming from you if you are town, is.................. unbecoming. it implies a lot of confidence in the alignment of my slot and I don't get why you seem tunneled on me from the get go when the obvious line of reasoning after lucy flip AND sean flip afterwards points to you. if you're being framed it is not my fault I see the frame. we all know it's out in broad daylight. find the wolves framing you, or you are getting out-poggered and out-gamed, unfortunately.

I mean frankly the fact that you didn't go over after jack flip AND sean NK means you're doing pretty well getting by. simultaneously focusing on the framing aspect while you live day after day is unbecoming. it's putting me off

I think it solves the game on PoE. Even if you flip green after me I think it's 4v2 and finding the wolf in Neon or Shia should be easy.

I'll admit, there is a world where I'm wrong. I don't think I am and even if I am, I think we still win after the fact. I just think by voicing my discontent with the push we may get there sooner. I don't think it's a matter of being out poggered. I just think it's an incorrect investment, that also night yeets confirmed. Like I said, I think it only wins the game for wolves if we've miscleared in Nook or Obs. I really don't think I'm wrong elsewhere.

I don't see how it's unbecoming. I accepted that I'd need to flip for the best chance to win, doing all I can in the meantime.

i'm fine with you being fine on your slot being flipped, but insisting on flipping me right after when my reasons for suspecting you are clear as day is not particularly.... helpful? you already said you thought my push couldn't come from wolf after I dropped it yesterday. so why are you back on flipping me since my push on you is now "wolfy" again.

if you and I can both see the same painting on the wall that has your face on it in a nice fancy frame, and I point it out, then why aren't you working with me to find the wolves who put you there? why are you pushing back on me for pointing out the obvious?

I also disagree that finding "the wolf" between neon and schia would be "easy." to put it plainly.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:31 pm

obscurity wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:19 pm With Anne flip I sort of think the night kills are for mason hunting/rolecop existing and doc dodge possibly. Like not killing Anne seems weird AF to me so I wouldn't put a ton of stake into that. Like Anne probably got role cooler VT

hat do you think the remaining scum roles are? This implies you think there's a scum role cop.

Is this a site where scum info is typically shared to all scum immediately when the night resolves? Or do scum typically have to wait for the next night chat to share the results of their abilities.

If it's the former, then yes I would consider the possibility that anne was scanned by scum as VT on N1 and then left as miskill bait, despite her trying very hard to sandbag and keep a low profile. Sorry anne

wolves have discord chat 24/7 with results provided after each night unless otherwise stated, so yeah it's the former

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:22 pm Should I say who am I giving my 1-shot track to?

I want to say yes you should, but my power role mafia experience is like sc2 arcade mafia and not forum mafia so sometimes I find myself being idiot with power roles in fm - take my opinion on it with a grain of salt

however if ruri is not lying she can choose protect whoever you claim you are giving track to. if you believe you are confident that who you are giving it to is actually town of course. and assuming ruri is not lying about having a doc shot remaining then she should be doc'ing you tonight imo

cool great talked myself into not knowing best play either.
depends if you think ruri is doc and still has shot I guess. if she doesnt have doc heal or doc role at all then you're boned and you probably shouldn't reveal who you'd give the track to since you'll die and then the person with track will die right after
if you believe ruri is doc and has 1 doc heal remaining then wolves will have to dodge you tonight to kill either the person you wanted to give track to or just another town.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:10 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:04 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:59 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:54 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:49 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:56 pm Ok I'm frustrated and probably allowing someone else to take over.

Anyway I'm Seanzie's mason partner. My track results were:

N2: Lilypetal - nobody
N4: falcon45ca- nobody

Which sucks because I can't discount the existence of mafia goon who just abstained.

Anyway, I think Ruri should be pretty much town for being uncounterclaimed protective besides Seanzie considering the existence of a mafia strongman.

I think the result still looks good for falcon45ca and someone mentioned he was spewed so I'm prob not looking at him today.

I also find obscurity genuinely townie all game, especially when he broke postcap to argue against the anne lynch. My biggest question regarding him is why he voted anne at some point.

That leaves Neon, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, DrWilgy, Porscha, pyxxy, Schiavetto and we need a POE of four to win.

Aye I think this gives us a valid PoE.

Yeeting me, Porscha, Neon and Schia I think closes the game.

The only one I'm not 100% on is Obscurity, but if Obscurity is wolf I think we just lose? As in I don't see a scenario where I wolf read them. I think I only reconsider that slot if both Shia and Porscha don't contain wolf.

why do you think lucy was NK'd

Without a doubt it was a push for my slot. Jokes on them tho, my yeet shouldn't lose us the game.

Half inclined to think you were all in on it still. Your interactions with Jack were super hedgey.

I hardly interacted with jack and yes I was uncertain of his slot. I don't really even feel inclined or pressured to defend myself against your accusation of hedging because there is virtually no way to determine whether I am jack wolf partner who distanced by not interacting and hedging or being disconnected from game at that point with no wolf jack meta not knowing exactly what to do. you will believe 1 is more likely than the other for whatever reason(s) you find / need

Aye, I don't see the same in the other remaining slots. Also what is there to defend against. What I saw can be teammate indicative so I think getting the best PoE down and yeeting is just the route to go. I don't know wether or not it's like you/Shia or you/neon or neon/Shia, but it's most likely in there.

Your pushes on me just feel wolfy.

my push on you makes a million senses, you're aware of that fact which is why you resort to calling it framing (and maybe it is), but it's hardly wolfy.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:00 pm

obscurity wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 11:06 am Lock Town; Creature - Seanzie - Ruri
Probably Town; Anne - Neon
I Think Town, though A Bit Uneasy; Pyxxy - Porscha

POE: [Nanook, Wilgy*, Schia, Falcon]

*I lean on Wilgy as town but it could be something I'm blind to that others know better on.

Swap Neon with Nook and I'm in agreement.

After digesting Porscha's push on me at start of day, I am in agreement that it's too straight forward for a wolf. When I flip the chance of them getting autoyeeted I think prevents a play like that.

Porscha goes at the back of PoE for it.

so... is my push too straight forward for a wolf, or is it not? would you like to walk back this statement from yesterday after I let you slide by and started pushing you again? are you OMGUS'ing me WILGY???????????? surely my dear wilgy you would never.....

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:04 pm Like, just yeet me for my jack interactions, then yeet Porscha and the game should be as good as solved after that though.

in what universe does that solve the game lmao. what do you expect to happen after you flip and then I flip. like what spew do you expect to be spewed

offering to trade in this scenario, even if genuinely coming from you if you are town, is.................. unbecoming. it implies a lot of confidence in the alignment of my slot and I don't get why you seem tunneled on me from the get go when the obvious line of reasoning after lucy flip AND sean flip afterwards points to you. if you're being framed it is not my fault I see the frame. we all know it's out in broad daylight. find the wolves framing you, or you are getting out-poggered and out-gamed, unfortunately.

I mean frankly the fact that you didn't go over after jack flip AND sean NK means you're doing pretty well getting by. simultaneously focusing on the framing aspect while you live day after day is unbecoming. it's putting me off

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:04 pm They were literally both towncleared.

This push is still bad imo. Sensible, I get it, but now I'm afraid that maybe you are town who took the bait.

oh okay well feel free to say that to everybody else on your wagon as well

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:02 pm Also something that stood out from yesterday that I didn't realize was kinda sketch at the time was your push on Falcon as well Porscha.

"You know you need to be flipped" is kinda bad. Jack gave us what we needed to read the slot. Falcon is super clear and his past day cycle has been classic town falc.

sorry I don't really agree. I think I will use the "low wim falcon is the hard to read falcon" line of reasoning you have used on me this game. thanks

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:59 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:54 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:49 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:56 pm Ok I'm frustrated and probably allowing someone else to take over.

Anyway I'm Seanzie's mason partner. My track results were:

N2: Lilypetal - nobody
N4: falcon45ca- nobody

Which sucks because I can't discount the existence of mafia goon who just abstained.

Anyway, I think Ruri should be pretty much town for being uncounterclaimed protective besides Seanzie considering the existence of a mafia strongman.

I think the result still looks good for falcon45ca and someone mentioned he was spewed so I'm prob not looking at him today.

I also find obscurity genuinely townie all game, especially when he broke postcap to argue against the anne lynch. My biggest question regarding him is why he voted anne at some point.

That leaves Neon, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, DrWilgy, Porscha, pyxxy, Schiavetto and we need a POE of four to win.

Aye I think this gives us a valid PoE.

Yeeting me, Porscha, Neon and Schia I think closes the game.

The only one I'm not 100% on is Obscurity, but if Obscurity is wolf I think we just lose? As in I don't see a scenario where I wolf read them. I think I only reconsider that slot if both Shia and Porscha don't contain wolf.

why do you think lucy was NK'd

Without a doubt it was a push for my slot. Jokes on them tho, my yeet shouldn't lose us the game.

Half inclined to think you were all in on it still. Your interactions with Jack were super hedgey.

I hardly interacted with jack and yes I was uncertain of his slot. I don't really even feel inclined or pressured to defend myself against your accusation of hedging because there is virtually no way to determine whether I am jack wolf partner who distanced by not interacting and hedging or being disconnected from game at that point with no wolf jack meta not knowing exactly what to do. you will believe 1 is more likely than the other for whatever reason(s) you find / need

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:46 pm

anne wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:38 pm If Creature's observation is true then I'm happy with just nuking Falcon and Wilgy

I'm not sure Falcon is the best bet. Their play today has improved my opinion of them quite a bit. They don't feel like a trapped wolf, instead just a lost townie.

If there is room in the PoE, I'd be okay with adding them, but people like Wilgy and Obscurity are more pressing IMO.

Why aren't you pushing for Obscurity here anymore?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:24 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:23 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:22 pm Aye, that's it for Jack.

I think Neon looks slightly better than Porscha when considering the ISO.

Anne looks bad. Porscha looks bad. Shia I think looks bad? but that's because I think he was accepting the yeet on those interactions. Neon looks bad, but not as bad as I saw Obscurity make it out to be earlier. Obscurity looks good. Falcon looks good. I stand by Creature/Pyxxy/Seanzie clear on this.

Tell me about Anne.

Also obscurity

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:21 pm I think out of the current wagons, I prefer

Wilgy->Anne->Nook

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:32 pm

obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:33 pm how long are you going to use that stale argument before you're just a wolf, Creature?

tbh.

also yeah Falcon could be mafia.

my top townreads are now Wilgy/Schiavetto/Anne/Jack.

B)

obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:54 pm and yeah my thought on jack is he will flip town but i don't oppose his flip if only to advance the game at this point.

It was you I was thinking of. You weren't pushing for Creature like Wilgy was, but I remember this post now. You're all like "Creature might be wolf" then Lucy voted Jack and you were like "uhh... maybe not". As if you WANTED WANTED WANTED to push Creature but you were more worried about your thread positioning than you should be.

And yeah, you definitely tried to save Jack.

Bad.

Obscurity has high deepwolf potential. Not worth going for today, but they should not be given a pass moving forward.

lucy and sean both want wilgy over with oscar tinfoil. think we know what we have to do, fellas

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:49 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:56 pm Ok I'm frustrated and probably allowing someone else to take over.

Anyway I'm Seanzie's mason partner. My track results were:

N2: Lilypetal - nobody
N4: falcon45ca- nobody

Which sucks because I can't discount the existence of mafia goon who just abstained.

Anyway, I think Ruri should be pretty much town for being uncounterclaimed protective besides Seanzie considering the existence of a mafia strongman.

I think the result still looks good for falcon45ca and someone mentioned he was spewed so I'm prob not looking at him today.

I also find obscurity genuinely townie all game, especially when he broke postcap to argue against the anne lynch. My biggest question regarding him is why he voted anne at some point.

That leaves Neon, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, DrWilgy, Porscha, pyxxy, Schiavetto and we need a POE of four to win.

Aye I think this gives us a valid PoE.

Yeeting me, Porscha, Neon and Schia I think closes the game.

The only one I'm not 100% on is Obscurity, but if Obscurity is wolf I think we just lose? As in I don't see a scenario where I wolf read them. I think I only reconsider that slot if both Shia and Porscha don't contain wolf.

why do you think lucy was NK'd

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:10 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 2:09 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:37 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:14 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:00 pm an someone link me to a game setup or two where empowerer was a town role? I read the wiki entry but I still don't really understand it.

It just makes your targets actions strong or unblockable afaik

ould that mean that if doc saved someone that was being strongman'd, and the doc was empowered, the save would win out?

I assume that's the point of it yeah

I kinda have to be careful of my post count cuz I forgot what the limit was, but saw it was 80 when I went to main post to see what oscar's punishment was
And I made a lot of ruri posts so I'll have to be less willy nilly

Feels extremely unlikely to even work. The strongman and the claimed empowerer would both have to target the same person the same night for it to even have value no?

In theory? I still don't know what a strongman does, so

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:00 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 2:23 pm h. Ty Sloonei.

Time for me to drop this post then.

People who cause a tie on webdip are policy killed because ties = no DK. If the rules are different here (ed note: now that I know the rules are different here or at least for this setup), that's my bad. I already thought falcon was sus but I'm sorry for how I reacted in the moment. I was just ready for someone to attempt to tie.

I think the most interesting part is that no one else attempted to tie. To me, I think that means 1) scum was fine with the lead wagons, 2) scum didn't want to actively cause a tie, and 3) the townies on each wagon were afraid of tying.

For me, these three things point towards DrWigly being scum. It feels somewhat reminiscent of D3 when Jack was saved.

No apologies necessary, I've got thick skin.


Interesting. I have thoughts re: EOD wagons, but this is food for thought

Share your eod thoughts then

obscurity wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 2:33 pm @Porscha what are your thoughts on Schiavetta?

Idk nothing they said prior to their role reveal really pinged me? I've only played with schia once idk her meta but the way she talks inherently pockets me a little lol

I do believe she did attempt softing at ruri because I cant read that post any other way. Ruri, tbf, did make it sound like she was going to use her last shot last night by asking twice(?) who she should doc. You can go on and on about how schia should have publically coordinated with ruri, but ruri has a strong chance of not seeing it (imo) and schia has a very low chance to coordinate with ruri in thread due to ruri's attendance. Additionally, since everybody knows what ruri's role is, it would be pretty easy to dodge the doc heal by simply killing the doctor (may I remind you is still alive btw) or maybe even killing the empowerer if ruri had doc'd someone like sean last night (which should have been a thought a doctor would have considered heavily imo. Sean's NK was anything but a dodge)

In theory the soft could still have been a set up for schia night actions as a wolf role. But if schia was, for example, a roleblocker using empowerer as a cover, there is always a risk ruri knows she was roleblocked via a vis her target dying. And in that scenario, schia would look pretty bad.

That's why I'm finding the role reveal tricky to work around. It's possible ruri did doctor someone and she came into thread following nook's advice and being untruthful. It's possible ruri never had any doc shots, too. Its nebulous by nature, unfortunately. Seems weird for schia to lie about it though when she could have just claimed vanilla or something. Even if schia claimed a role that moves in the event she was tracked, there is 0 reason to say she used it on ruri without her being caught moving n5. Unless ruri/schia are partnered.

Ruri of course made 0 mention of it in what I can only assume will likely be all or almost all of her posts today.