The Syndicate

I'm seeing too many inconsistencies between reads and votes and if mafia were correctly being pressed right I believe there would be more discussion with half the lobby not slanking off for 20/24 hours of the day

obviously it's possible falcon is mafia - I am after all pushing him (and mac) *right now* to explain his reasoning on MR vote

what about this is wolf to you. I am covering bases the best I can

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:46 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:55 am is thread quiet cuz wolves are slanking and happy with the falcon wagon or what
This post makes me suspicious. If falcon is mafia, could be teammate trying to get votes off of falcon. Especially with the not committed language. Phrasing it as a question without giving a stance

I had my vote on MR right away day 1 and held off day 2 to see discussion. i'm not happy with DADV falcon appearance from threadstate and *that* is what should be suspicious

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:42 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:09 am Why would he bother when they've had a free pass
Why do you think anyone has a free pass?

because unless falcon is mafia then wolves aren't being pressed enough IMO. based on voting at most 1 wolf has been voted and another was not voted

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:49 pm I'm going to now deliver my patent-pending list read. Each of these lists contains at least 1 mafia:

List 1:
Seanzie
LC
Mac
Enderwiggin

List 2:
Falcon
Mac

If you can figure out where this read comes from, props to you.

I like both list possibilities but if mac is in both then why not try to push mac

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:04 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:02 pm I barely vote as mafia in general.

I have a weird feeling about something.
what is your strange feeling my child

follwing up on this one LC

@MacDougall @falcon45ca explain yourselves. so many words and you end up on one of the nullest players in the game

I feel like for how much falcon has participated I find it weird their vote ended up on MR when he's done nothing particularly townie or maf. same for mac when mac came in singing praises on confirmed ender wolf and just dropped it

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:16 am it's because people backread games and when they do that they generally read games poorly and give it town points

did you do that this game too when you caught up on day 1

day 1 EOD votes:

Wilgy: MR and falcon
Falcon: LC and NAA
MR: wilgy and porscha
Seanzie: Ender and nanook (may they RIG (rest in garden))

Current day 2 votes:

Falcon: Seanzie, NAA, Ender, Finger
Mac: porscha
MR: Mac and falcon
Seanzie: LC

i've seen mac bus a teammate who already wasn't gonna make it and then open wolf. that's it

Why would he bother when they've had a free pass

does mac stay off seanzie b/c seanzie is slanking wolf?

if falcon is really mafia, does mac move his vote to MR with falcon (perhaps explains why sudden vote change to MR from 90% scrum read ender from mac?) to try and get wagon to shift to MR? caveat, does mac do this to MR instead of seanzie due to MR's lack of thread presence prior to later in the day?

i'll start. i'm voting mac

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:32 pm honestly i'm pretty convinced DADV happened day 1 votes so here is who had no votes. at least 1 maf has to be in no votes IF NOT BOTH HAD NO VOTES

Ender
Finger
LC
Mac
Porscha
NAA
Nanook (not applicable)

(and obviously not me hehe) so between NAA, Mac, LC, Finger, Ender. what's the thoughts? Mac started day by pushing Ender. Falcon getting a lot of attention all game, not sure if someone day 1 kept him from becoming wagon if he was actually wolf up with votes

NAA cracking the whip with his pushy and stand offish posts / pushes idk what to do with it

Mac might be just giving me brain worms and tricking me

LC is *big chilling* from what I can tell and this makes me quite suspicious of them despite my day 1 town read. LC also voted with NAA on Falcon so I don't see any of those 3 paired cuz I think there is 1 mafia between the 3

Just waiting on Finger to get into the game to be able to assess the vibes

also don't know what to think of Ender. think they were high poster day 1. dont know if this was talkative maf who is shmearing the confusion cream cheese on the toast or just a townie trying to cast a wide net to figure something out. idk

as voting stands right now, there are no votes on:

Ender
Finger
LC
Mac
NAA
myself

*LITERALLY THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE* and I think we should consider wagoning someone from this list to start putting pressure where it's missing imo

is thread quiet cuz wolves are slanking and happy with the falcon wagon or what

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:57 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:54 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:36 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:23 pm like I would have to be doing absolutely no leg work and town ruining this game for themselves b/c the only mafia read i've given is MR and it's obviously not convincing anybody
I'm probably missing something, because I think MR is lock town and I've recently developed a solid system for reading him.
I mean, I'm down to be convinced otherwise, but the one other game I played with them I was very back and forth on whether I was town or scum reading them and I'm wondering if MR always plays in this aloof, doesnt care to be useful type of way frequently. I wouldn't know how to tell the difference between his maf or town play

just haven't seen anything from MR that makes him analyzable except his vote day 1 and then slanking so. idk. if you have the system to help me read MR, feel free to explain
I think being useful is a matter of perspective.

Ok, so given the second bit, I'm sticking to "I'm right" because he has definitive town tells that I'm not going to get into here, and he's already done those town tells. I've used very similar reads to great success on Scotty / DrWilgy if you've been following my recent body of work. Albeit, Scotty didn't town tell D1 in the last game we played which lead to a close call, but I got there in the end.

yeah it is a matter of perspective and my perspective is extremely limited so I can see why there'd be a block there.

I'll take your word for it that MR is giving you his town reads since I don't think you and MR would be partnered

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:36 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:23 pm like I would have to be doing absolutely no leg work and town ruining this game for themselves b/c the only mafia read i've given is MR and it's obviously not convincing anybody
I'm probably missing something, because I think MR is lock town and I've recently developed a solid system for reading him.

I mean, I'm down to be convinced otherwise, but the one other game I played with them I was very back and forth on whether I was town or scum reading them and I'm wondering if MR always plays in this aloof, doesnt care to be useful type of way frequently. I wouldn't know how to tell the difference between his maf or town play

just haven't seen anything from MR that makes him analyzable except his vote day 1 and then slanking so. idk. if you have the system to help me read MR, feel free to explain

like I would have to be doing absolutely no leg work and town ruining this game for themselves b/c the only mafia read i've given is MR and it's obviously not convincing anybody

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:05 pm Am I crazy to see a world where it's Porscha & fingers?

no cap, and this says absolutely nothing about fingers, but I'm way too trash at this game to have the game state this massively confused. I think a veteran player or 2 are wolves

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:05 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:03 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:45 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:36 pm I can't believe my boy wilgy has been lost so early he was only strong town read ;(

uuuuh I still don't have a reason to not really still read MR maf like I did day 1

hate the way NAA is playing on his reads

I felt nanook was a decent town read so I'm not surprised they died n1

if mafia are smart they will keep me around b/c I'm bad at this game and probably won't make strong pushes

also can't believe dunya said with cucumber dead their hopes of innuendos goes out the door like ... damn that hurts me (a sweet, innocent eggplant) T.T
Unnecessary over-explainy wolf read?
yeah single sentences that reveal particularly nothing substantial does not equal over explainy wolf read. nice reach though
I don't know if I really believe that read to be the case but to explain my thought as I read it:
Your lines add little to the game while looking contribute-y, which is a semi-common wolf tactic to participate in the game. I call it "Over explain-y" because it is taking the amount of information a villager usually feels like providing and adding more because wolves (more-so inexperienced wolves but still) feel the need to add more because they aren't sure if they've said enough to look villagery.

oh okay I understand better now. no, the issue is that it's only day 2 with no useful flip or mech info, most people aren't giving more than 2 reads at any given moment, and you fail to consider that I suck ass at forum mafia so that's really just the most I can offer

plus I did at least try to follow up in more detail with votes on falcon, pushing LC, etc

the most info I said is that I still maf read MR, hate how NAA was playing. both still true as well. you can go back and see wilgy was my only town read so I didnt make that up out of thin air and have been consistent. I guess my comment about nanook wasn't entirely necessary but it was a sincere thought i had so I threw it in there to begin the day since it's not like I had a ton to work off of until fingers, mac, seanzie all joining in. hope my useless posts make more sense b/c whether i'm mafia or town they're probs gonna be about the same and as in any game I've played here I will still advise to generally read me as a stupid town and not a slanking mafia

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:02 pm I barely vote as mafia in general.

I have a weird feeling about something.

what is your strange feeling my child

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:45 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:36 pm I can't believe my boy wilgy has been lost so early he was only strong town read ;(

uuuuh I still don't have a reason to not really still read MR maf like I did day 1

hate the way NAA is playing on his reads

I felt nanook was a decent town read so I'm not surprised they died n1

if mafia are smart they will keep me around b/c I'm bad at this game and probably won't make strong pushes

also can't believe dunya said with cucumber dead their hopes of innuendos goes out the door like ... damn that hurts me (a sweet, innocent eggplant) T.T
Unnecessary over-explainy wolf read?

yeah single sentences that reveal particularly nothing substantial does not equal over explainy wolf read. nice reach though

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:27 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:07 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:22 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:20 pm I don't think radishes is aligned with Sean or falcon so I don't want to vote him

Vote Sean, vote falcon, profit
Why Falcon mafia?

I'm voting Seanzie technically but I'm just interested in why Falcon mafia.
Gamestate, his approach, the lines he's pushed, how he's interacted with the thread, all make him >rand mafia
@Porscha

This was what influenced me to rethink my Falcon read.

Yeah if I was maf I'd see nanook as easy kill n1 for sussing me like that but idk if that's too obvious a choice for falcon/ mac wolf team

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:27 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:07 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:22 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:20 pm I don't think radishes is aligned with Sean or falcon so I don't want to vote him

Vote Sean, vote falcon, profit
Why Falcon mafia?

I'm voting Seanzie technically but I'm just interested in why Falcon mafia.
Gamestate, his approach, the lines he's pushed, how he's interacted with the thread, all make him >rand mafia
@Porscha

This was what influenced me to rethink my Falcon read.

Yeah if I was maf I'd see nanook as easy kill n1 for sussing me like that but idk if that's too obvious a choice for falcon/ mac wolf team

Oh nvm I think you just mentioned it

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:14 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:10 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 4:11 pm TBH I can see either worlds of Falcon or NAA being mafia just based on how they're playing around each other.

Probably not paired but at least 1 in Falcon or NAA.
How do you feel about the day 1 vote where you and NAA both voted falcon. Would you do it again? Would NAA voting with you make you feel uneasy? Did you put initial vote on falcon or did NAA?
NAA's read had nothing to do with my decision, Nanook's read actually influenced it which I looked at something that I realized happened in a wolf game that Falcon did, so I voted him then.

I'm lazy and on mobile at work, can you remind me of nanook position that influenced you pls

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:08 pm Wow that's it for MR. Okay I guess.

I dont really have an issue going on MR but what do you think about how NAA has been playing mac

Cuz as far as I'm concerned, there is likely 1 maf between the 3 of you involved in that vote. Including possibly you

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 4:11 pm TBH I can see either worlds of Falcon or NAA being mafia just based on how they're playing around each other.

Probably not paired but at least 1 in Falcon or NAA.

How do you feel about the day 1 vote where you and NAA both voted falcon. Would you do it again? Would NAA voting with you make you feel uneasy? Did you put initial vote on falcon or did NAA?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:12 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:38 pm this is a good point falcon I am increasingly worried I have mac brain worms b/c I am biased and have never witnessed wolf mac yet
?

You heard me

this is a good point falcon I am increasingly worried I have mac brain worms b/c I am biased and have never witnessed wolf mac yet

honestly i'm pretty convinced DADV happened day 1 votes so here is who had no votes. at least 1 maf has to be in no votes IF NOT BOTH HAD NO VOTES

Ender
Finger
LC
Mac
Porscha
NAA
Nanook (not applicable)

(and obviously not me hehe) so between NAA, Mac, LC, Finger, Ender. what's the thoughts? Mac started day by pushing Ender. Falcon getting a lot of attention all game, not sure if someone day 1 kept him from becoming wagon if he was actually wolf up with votes

NAA cracking the whip with his pushy and stand offish posts / pushes idk what to do with it

Mac might be just giving me brain worms and tricking me

LC is *big chilling* from what I can tell and this makes me quite suspicious of them despite my day 1 town read. LC also voted with NAA on Falcon so I don't see any of those 3 paired cuz I think there is 1 mafia between the 3

Just waiting on Finger to get into the game to be able to assess the vibes

also don't know what to think of Ender. think they were high poster day 1. dont know if this was talkative maf who is shmearing the confusion cream cheese on the toast or just a townie trying to cast a wide net to figure something out. idk

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:49 am [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

if this becomes a wagon and there isnt any pushback then I'm clear town

mafia you better start shilling out town reads on me ASAP

do you like me for my ... yanno...

>///<

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:17 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:14 am i'm too dumb to figure out a team here day 2 tbh but day 1 I read you town

I want to believe mac is town

MR still maf

NAA rubbing me the wrong way

I don't know what to think about wiggin from day1 or day 2 yet i'm still on the fence with them

now that seanzie showed up I feel alright about them potentially being town

I think fingers may be a missing link and could potentially help a lot once they start joining

unsure on falcon atm but I think like 60% tr 40% sr them rn
Okay, thanks for answering that.

Don't think I want to vote you, slight gut feeling that you're town.

why do I feel like you're only saying that b/c I gave you a light town read

i'm too dumb to figure out a team here day 2 tbh but day 1 I read you town

I want to believe mac is town

MR still maf

NAA rubbing me the wrong way

I don't know what to think about wiggin from day1 or day 2 yet i'm still on the fence with them

now that seanzie showed up I feel alright about them potentially being town

I think fingers may be a missing link and could potentially help a lot once they start joining

unsure on falcon atm but I think like 60% tr 40% sr them rn

I don't really know what you're asking can you be a little specific in what you're looking for me to answer

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:48 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:13 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:06 pm Town lean Sean, MR.

Porscha is pretty null atm

POE NAA, Mac, Ender, LC
Tell me about me and MR. Why are we town?
Your reaction to being called out for your absence, and MR for wagon choices EOD.

It's a lean, not a lock, but a lean I like atm

I don't feel like MR eod voting choice should mean very much b/c in a situation with what was it, a 4 way tie? anyone coming off the tie to confirm a flip when nobody was being hard scum read would have consequences of the interrogation variety (less so if the flipped person ended up being wolf) but like. otherwise it's going to draw attention to you no matter what. if I was maf I'd prefer to slank it there and take the 25% one of you goes over UNLESS maf was also not being voted at all. then no risk and no reason to move vote anyway

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:38 pm I think that Fingersplints, LC and Porscha are all pretty much just town here. Porscha a tier below the other two. Seanzie I think is likely to be town too.

i'm the towniest player here wdym put me top tier

I can't believe my boy wilgy has been lost so early he was only strong town read ;(

uuuuh I still don't have a reason to not really still read MR maf like I did day 1

hate the way NAA is playing on his reads

I felt nanook was a decent town read so I'm not surprised they died n1

if mafia are smart they will keep me around b/c I'm bad at this game and probably won't make strong pushes

also can't believe dunya said with cucumber dead their hopes of innuendos goes out the door like ... damn that hurts me (a sweet, innocent eggplant) T.T

Guys I have a confession. I've had eggplant parmesan and I didnt like it

I already called MR wolf and my reason is worth half a reason according to falcon so that's all you get

I feel I need to add a (1) to the list of votes

voted MR

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:16 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:32 pm I want to make jokes or roleplay as my veggie but I'm pretty sure all I'd come up with is penis related comments and the aubergine emoji
Someone randed Eggplant I see.

I like to believe the admins and mods did not choose it at random for me

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:19 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:33 pm lol sorry i'm just half shitposting cuz i'm in another game atm
(This apology actually feels rather weirdly placed.)

I think i'm coming off as more playful than usual b/c the other game I'm in has been like that and it's rubbing off on me

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:54 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 12:51 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:24 am Falcon is mafia.
I'm 50/50 between ender and falcon.

Falcon's entry was Wolfy, but he voted ender who's post calling falcon was strange.
Falcon is currently voting for the biggest wagon, that's how you know he's a wolf.

there is 1 vote on every veggie except for the veggies with no votes.

"YUGE WAGON"

where is mac I miss him

lol sorry i'm just half shitposting cuz i'm in another game atm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:51 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:47 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:26 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
What do you want?
I'm actually kinda wary of you being serious this early, that's typically wolf indicative of you. You're usually in gimmick as town.

I have seen you sub in as town and be entirely serious, keep in mind I was a wolf who had TMI, and I wouldn't want to be a dick and toss you out when you decide to try to play the game, but it's what I have in my mind currently.

maybe he wants to trade some veggie dna?

Wilgy town MR maf Sean old

That's it thanks

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