The Syndicate

Syn wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 2:32 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 2:31 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 2:30 am hi can someone give me the cliff's notes of the past 6 pages and tell me how bad I should feel

eh

I dont feel *that* bad lol but

you shouldn't feel *good* either, so

okay I'll feel as neutral as I can possibly be

but I actually meant like... why was leetic still the chop when TSP dropped a shield on them before I disappeared

oh. no clue. I dont remember tsp even dropping the shield

Syn wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 2:31 am i simply do not have the time to read back. I am so useless for the next while :/

I dont think you missed that much (I also did not really read the past like 3-4 pages lol)

Syn wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 2:30 am hi can someone give me the cliff's notes of the past 6 pages and tell me how bad I should feel

leetic kinda threw sus on me n you but I don't really have thoughts about his read on me cuz I dont think i've posted in a way that would make leetic's brain click into reading me correctly

Syn wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 2:30 am hi can someone give me the cliff's notes of the past 6 pages and tell me how bad I should feel

eh

I dont feel *that* bad lol but

you shouldn't feel *good* either, so

also tsp i'm quite surprised at your activity levels this game, much higher than usual!

@Roxy in response to what you asked me about wilgy

and tsp can read this too, if he's able

I simply have reasons to believe that there are a lot of power roles in play (this is a reason we should all believe, in fact,) and that while I think it's okay to assume a possible world where wilgy was the target of the nk from wolves, it should not be fully assumed as the truth because mechanics cannot be outed in thread

so what i'm trying to say is that we should be utilizing a balancing act in how much we believe a theory that cannot actually be proven true or false

if leetic had btsc with wilgy last night and believed he was town, then sure, that's something I am willing to assume is more likely than not (as I am proposing in how we should approach all things of this nature in the game) and I wasn't here for end of day cuz workscha so I took brad's conviction at more than face value since t hat's where I thought the conviction came from

though I initially had worries about him for raisins... w hich is still possible but I also kinda doubt wolf brad powerwolves out leetic here so idk lol maybe he's just town though again, like, I didn't love that he hasn't seemed to question my alignment at all whatsoever, but idk maybe he really took my masonry suggestion quite seriously lol

anyway um I thought brad had info and that was the reason for all of that but I see that was not the case so now um. idk. lol

didn't set up say nights were closed

I respect svs wolf game she can fool me 9 / 10 times so I'm withholding judgment on that aspect but sig and lorab being like "wow big brain point sva so true" is like. Idk. Lmao

I'd be disappointed if it was from 2 towns

Even if wolves did target wilgy for nk . Which again is multiple assumptions. U just assume only brad had input on the kill? Like idgi lol

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 6:19 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:26 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:40 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:35 pm Like trying to say this in the nicest way possible but the dude isn't as active or as scary of a player that I'd instantly night kill, even if he was mech cleared.

There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.

I can recall off the top of my head two games where Wilgy played the long game and played it hard and well, as YOUR bad teammate.

I find this post troubling tbh, and can’t think of a reason why you would say this as town.

I’ve never seen a player do aggressively (and successfully) defend a teammate as he did YOU in Cyberpunk.

Even though he wound up losing that was probably one of the single best Mafia performances I’ve ever seen.

I love this post by SVS and agree.

I’m also not sure I like how quickly Lime shifted into an NKA/search to find who might’ve killed him. It’s a red flag for sure.

This all makes a lot of sense to me. I’ve never played with Brad before (I don’t think), which makes it hard to read him. But all this does make me eyeball him.

Idgi man lol like what's so damning about what svs said that everybody is bandwagoning their agreement on it

Oooo wilgy spooky mafia player skills blah blah blah guess I should accuse brad of lying about maybe killing wilgy even though we don't know wilgys alignment or who killed him to begin with lmao

leetic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 4:23 pm I guess it's good to know about Loki's ability, although I'm not sure what town can do to counter it. I guess one point to keep in mind is that if wolves use the ability to defend one of their own, it would necessitate a hard TR on the player they're switching with, so I guess we'll have to keep that in mind. I guess that makes the ability not as powerful as it appears at first glance, as if the wrong person gets lynched it's pretty obvious that the failed lynch target is bad, but it can still fuck up -yLo.

You doing a lot of guessing here

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:40 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 11:37 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:00 am @Porscha

Like is there any chance you'll give me an opportunity and vote Leetic with me?

You don't seem to have a confident wolf read yourself. If you did I'd be more than happy following and giving you the credit if it flips mafia.

But this is one of the few times I'm confident in a wolfread. I'm asking for you to sheep me on it.

this feels icky. You will give someone else credit for leetic's elim if he flips bad?

If you want to actually convince others to join you - you should build a case instead of just arguing back and forth ad nauseum beating a dead horse to death again.

Outline why you think he is bad, please.

You...completely misread that entirely.

If Porscha had a scumread on someone else I would be glad to follow and if that person flips mafia then I'll give her the credit.

If we end up flipping Leetic and he flips mafia then I want the credit.

And too bad if you don't like it. If I'm confident in something I'll ping people I trust or people I townread or even people I think will have enough logic to follow.

Omg wait
Maybe I've been head up ass and didn't THINK
Ok brad I hear you loud and clear I'm pretty sure

[VOTE: Leetic] aubergine

oh the loki ability is nightly xd that's hilarious

guess we can assume technopathy wasn't used last night since we have more than 4-6 names to select from

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:47 pm I just noticed these on pg 1:

VISION
Technopathy
On one occasion, you may assume complete control over the next Day’s poll. At Night, you can select four to six names to appear.


SPIDER-MAN
Web Shot
You protect your target from all Night actions in a thick webbing, but this renders your target blocked at the same time.


LOKI
Trick Poll
Each Night, you may switch the names of two people in the poll. These names will appear normally on the poll, but if one of the two is voted out, the other is killed instead. You may target yourself. The double targeting rule applies.



Were these always there bc I do not remember them?

lol swag

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 12:34 pm “Who kills Wilgy” is actually an interesting NKA question

the question already assumes too much imo

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 11:34 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 4:31 am Wow even tsp has more posts than me as of this post

Well your 7 one liner posts before and after this one boosted your post count too bad you are not really giving much substance with your one liners.

aw I felt pretty bold saying the first few of them

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:00 am @Porscha

Like is there any chance you'll give me an opportunity and vote Leetic with me?

You don't seem to have a confident wolf read yourself. If you did I'd be more than happy following and giving you the credit if it flips mafia.

But this is one of the few times I'm confident in a wolfread. I'm asking for you to sheep me on it.

hm... you're right that I don't have a confident scumread, but why should I be confidently scumreading leetic? I think you guys should kith and make up

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 4:43 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 3:56 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:59 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:05 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 6:27 pm One thing that gives me pause with AS is that during Kagemusha, which I posted, she was lynched for being a low-poster, which turned out to be a mistake as she had an important PR for town. Her ISO here doesn't really look that different from her ISO there

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:32 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:06 pm
I….uh…sorry, I was talking about the other Abbi and until you just posted I didn’t even know there was another Abbi in this game

But you both can be princesses if you want. I’d prob just call you Princess Sophia for clarification though

How do you do? What’s your read on…say, me, or JJJ right now?

Sorry I thought you were talking about me because PA hadn't posted yet

I haven't seen any reason to think of you as bad...I did at one point consider voting JJJ but I think he's in the clear (for now)

(that game)

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:03 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:46 pm Abigail Sophia didn't actually comment on me but voted for me. Curious.

@Abigail Sophia, why did you click on me?

When I voted, you and Long Con were tied. I didn't want my vote to not matter.

The only person I had any suspicions of was Moto (because he accused LC for seemingly no reason) I didn't want Long Con to be ejected just because of that

I don't know you very well but others were commenting on how you made "wolfy posts" I didn't see it myself but I decided to go with the crowd

I made a mistake and I am sorry

(this game)

Was also going to say that. Her mislynch in that game gives me pause to vote her in this game.

NGL this feels towny.

If it's towny for lorab why isn't it also towny for leetic who brought it up to begin with

The fact that Leetic isn't even giving a read there and is just stating something?

it's definitely a soft defense from leetic towards abi. he didn't have to directly say it, bringing that up unprompted says it

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 4:36 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 4:00 am Brad you're being like. A little too bitchy and some of what you said yesterday has put me off

I'm trying not to be but like I said in the argument I tried to get 1 thing off of someone but literally didn't get anything from it. Like I'm trying to get something done with this game.

ok then just give up on leetic and work somewhere else lol

Haha eat it, sucker

But not for long!

Wow even tsp has more posts than me as of this post

If brad was wolfing tho he would likely be their top poster so far lol

I'm kinda surprised that Michelle is town reading brad

He may have been town, but I dunno. He didn't post enough imo

FTR I don't think we should assume wilgy was the intended kill of the wolf faction

We don't know if it came from wolves and we can't be certain there was no mech in play to mess with targeting

Brad you're being like. A little too bitchy and some of what you said yesterday has put me off

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:59 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:05 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 6:27 pm One thing that gives me pause with AS is that during Kagemusha, which I posted, she was lynched for being a low-poster, which turned out to be a mistake as she had an important PR for town. Her ISO here doesn't really look that different from her ISO there

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:32 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:06 pm

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:05 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:19 pm Another out of expectation (OoE) is PrincessAbbi. Those 4 posts don’t say much, and not to use the participation card but it’s not what I expect from her

This is the first game I've played where my father hasn't spoken for me (I think) so I'm not used to checking on the conversation

I….uh…sorry, I was talking about the other Abbi and until you just posted I didn’t even know there was another Abbi in this game

But you both can be princesses if you want. I’d prob just call you Princess Sophia for clarification though

How do you do? What’s your read on…say, me, or JJJ right now?

Sorry I thought you were talking about me because PA hadn't posted yet

I haven't seen any reason to think of you as bad...I did at one point consider voting JJJ but I think he's in the clear (for now)

(that game)

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:03 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:46 pm Abigail Sophia didn't actually comment on me but voted for me. Curious.

@Abigail Sophia, why did you click on me?

When I voted, you and Long Con were tied. I didn't want my vote to not matter.

The only person I had any suspicions of was Moto (because he accused LC for seemingly no reason) I didn't want Long Con to be ejected just because of that

I don't know you very well but others were commenting on how you made "wolfy posts" I didn't see it myself but I decided to go with the crowd

I made a mistake and I am sorry

(this game)

Was also going to say that. Her mislynch in that game gives me pause to vote her in this game.

NGL this feels towny.

If it's towny for lorab why isn't it also towny for leetic who brought it up to begin with

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 6:04 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:13 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:39 pm Also @Roxy re leetics vote, it was sus, yes, but it was also sloppy. He said LC had 2 posts, but when leetic voted he actually had 5. It's a small thing, but I just hosted bad leetic, and bad leetic is pretty careful. His vote felt more off the cuff for me, and "off the cuff" isn't a thing I associate with bad leetic.

It's not "OMG he's towncore" but it's enough for me to find his vote less sus than motos.

I felt it was sloppy and poorly explained.
Town leetic to me is more careful, more calculating with his posts. This game he is doing NOTHING to move the game forward. I haven't seen him respond to any of my questions and that always gives me bad vibes

I mean, in the one game I recall us playing together your read on me wasn't good at all. If anything, I'm less concerned about who I piss off as town, though I wouldn't treat GoC as particularly representative of my town or wolf play, as I was playing to an independent win condition.

You were mega wolfy that game imo

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 1:49 am Townread:
Porschaaaaaaa
Michelle
SVS
Roxy
Falcon

Townlean:
Syn
Simon
Lorab

I said I should be adding Roxy before and forgot so now I actually have her.

--------------------------------------

Abigail Sophia
dunya
leetic
Long Con
motobot
sig
TonyStarkPrime


This would be the remaining POE for me looking at this game.

@Porscha @Michelle @S~V~S @Roxy

Do any of y'all have any sort of reason to townread anyone in this pile of names that I have in the POE?

Uh maybe long con

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:54 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:46 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:39 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:42 am What do you have in total for this game, Michelle?

@Michelle

I have Wilgy town, I know the ópinions are different but I I don't have evidence I am wrong.

About the living players I have a few town reads: you, SVS, Syn, LC and now that I see Lorab and Roxy posted more I will ISO them - GTH I like their posts and questions, but I would like to sleep before reading all and making an educated guess.

I don't trust Leetic, Porscha, TSP and Abigail, and if I would have a gun I would shot leetic

Why Porscha? She seems fine to me? Wasn't Abigail an RVS vote?

She let the vote on Wilgy but from her posts I get she wasn't convinced he is scum.
Can you show me what seems fine for you?

Not really, I wanted to have activity from Abigail, I don't think I received a reaction, or I didn't notice it.

Kind of misrepping my rvs vote I didn't change by saying I "led" it zz

aw wittle bwadweeeyyy

you wouldn't kill your mason buddy would you coke of lime?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:04 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:57 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:35 pm Like trying to say this in the nicest way possible but the dude isn't as active or as scary of a player that I'd instantly night kill, even if he was mech cleared.

There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.

like who

You, Syn, Michelle, Dunya, Long Con.

mhm lol

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:15 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:57 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:46 pm I'm fairly used to playing flipless, and it's pretty obvious that Wilgy was town anyway. Might want to look at his ISO.

Why do you think that was obvious?

It's pretty much taken as a given in flipless games that the person flipping has been killed by the wolves. Now that I think about it, there are independents in this game as well, but the intent is the same.

Also got another 500 error so this site isn't cooperating with me

I think what I dislike, leetic, is that you offered a million reasons as to why or how there was a night period but you're dead ass sold and not shopping around on buying that the wolves targeted wilgy for death lol

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:35 pm Like trying to say this in the nicest way possible but the dude isn't as active or as scary of a player that I'd instantly night kill, even if he was mech cleared.

There's plenty of others here that I'd consider threatening to me if I was mafia against them that I'd kill over Wilgy.

like who

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:31 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:03 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:54 am Good morning!
The open night I understand it's Wilgy's ability and it's so townie that it makes me happy the chop failed.

what makes it towny lol

Well Epi said this was old school, and old school a yeet *stop* was a town role, and a yeet *switch* was a wolf role.

Doesn’t make it that way automatically, but it was my first thought too.

I considered this yeah

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:44 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:03 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:54 am Good morning!
The open night I understand it's Wilgy's ability and it's so townie that it makes me happy the chop failed.

what makes it towny lol

The night talk is a nightmare for mafia, because town can talk and find each other. I always think that someone who choses to give an open night it's town

What wouldn't be towny from your pov?

idk I didnt assume it was a choice to open night, it could be compulsory /shrug

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:54 am Good morning!
The open night I understand it's Wilgy's ability and it's so townie that it makes me happy the chop failed.

what makes it towny lol

oh

I dont know what the picture means

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:30 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:56 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:19 pm I could've voted Leetic as well but eh.

but eh what

I wouldn't have been overly confident in it and would've been another shot in the dark.

I mean, yeah

that goes without saying I think lol

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:07 am Not sure if I like the no deaths. Feels like we aren't making any progress. Granted, the Wilgy wagon was weak.

huh. wat. lol

what is this post

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:19 pm I could've voted Leetic as well but eh.

but eh what

Simon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:32 pm Is there a good reason no one died today despite one person having more votes than everyone else?, or do I not actually know what's going on?

Probs a PR thing

I was feeling kinda bad about it

Ok swag it might be good that wilgy didn't die lol

Not gonna be here for eod
Shopping around for desk chairs made for tiny people. Sucks