I am glad that dizzy hopping on my vote wagon could clear me as town because I swear to god I cannot do it with my words. glad you came around on belzy too. the interactions were wild
I also think jpic / lp are likely at LEAST one wolf if not both
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for the record sloonei I read all of your word salads and I think it was good analysis
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:25 am
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okay I just wrote out half an argument and realized it's literally moot and stupid nvm lmao
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:14 am
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from what I understand, only way last standing mafia can soup is if they are powerless goon right? that person would want to make it out before the other mafia assuming other mafia has role abilities. did we see a goon flip? was tsp a goon? wonder if we already flipped the 1 goon or something
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:12 am
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I dunno I feel like most players except like LP and JPIC are playing with the same assumptions of sabie / dya possible, with LP, JPIC, maybe you (sloon) are in poe.
by way of understanding I see myself, belzy, falcon, and therefore also creature as confirmed town. so unless falcon and creature pull a sick 180 on us then I see us the confirmed town at this moment
I think it's good sabie didnt shoot pao. I know dya shot marmot but it's hard to read them as of recent just due to lack of posts. I feel LP comes off as legit as far as their role and how it interacted with alexa (who I also would have maybe given vest to early on in game) and it might have just been unlucky.
jpic talks townie but they are also only person without some kind of role claim to some degree and unfortunately it just looks kinda bad for them. like idk I feel like also pao could have just revealed and then saved himself from getting voted off and since mafia has *still* not souped then like idk. maybe jpic is goon with no role abilities trying to make it out before even his other teammate tbh. possible neeko is trying same thing by lying about her role and then framing that she role abilities b/c of alexa is possible.
also it's confirmed sabie was vigi nk right? or is it possible she claimed a kill that wasn't hers?
i'm trying to see who could have the most chance of having a no-power role for possible soup, but even you sloon have claimed that you could prove yourself, so unless you're lying too, then I dunno. i'm really on the fence here with the poe
by way of understanding I see myself, belzy, falcon, and therefore also creature as confirmed town. so unless falcon and creature pull a sick 180 on us then I see us the confirmed town at this moment
I think it's good sabie didnt shoot pao. I know dya shot marmot but it's hard to read them as of recent just due to lack of posts. I feel LP comes off as legit as far as their role and how it interacted with alexa (who I also would have maybe given vest to early on in game) and it might have just been unlucky.
jpic talks townie but they are also only person without some kind of role claim to some degree and unfortunately it just looks kinda bad for them. like idk I feel like also pao could have just revealed and then saved himself from getting voted off and since mafia has *still* not souped then like idk. maybe jpic is goon with no role abilities trying to make it out before even his other teammate tbh. possible neeko is trying same thing by lying about her role and then framing that she role abilities b/c of alexa is possible.
also it's confirmed sabie was vigi nk right? or is it possible she claimed a kill that wasn't hers?
i'm trying to see who could have the most chance of having a no-power role for possible soup, but even you sloon have claimed that you could prove yourself, so unless you're lying too, then I dunno. i'm really on the fence here with the poe
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:35 am
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what is ebwop
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:27 am
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yeah there's no way I don't just get bussed or thrown to the wolves (no pun intended) day 1 instead of having 1 out of the few wolves put themselves out there like that. I highly doubt most people here play like that b/c it seems dumb to do, but idk, maybe it's just a thing people do sometimes and I wouldn't know.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:07 amThis is not a thing that I said.
You and Belzy were both being treated as town reads by the majority of the thread. Not "confirmed", and probably not universal either. But if there was a towncore at that point, you two were in it.
At the same time, however, you two had clearly and obviously linked yourselves together. When I say that you were "backed into a corner", I mean that you and Belzy, if mafia, could not do anything to unlink yourselves from one another. You had clearly and blatantly shielded each other. If you are mafia and alexa is your partner, this was her attempting to provide the two of you with justification for that strong connection in the thread.
I do find it a bit hard to believe. But it is easier to believe than a world where I am mafia.
also idk why you keep saying you have to look at me and belzy b/c there's a world where you are town. why can't you be town and still have the other poe. I dont get the relation
- Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:06 am
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i'm willing to believe you are still town, but idk why you need to try and open case against me and belzy as if there isn't a perfect good poe between jpic, lp, sabie, dya, and reach of even falcon if we believe he's deep wolfing and saving m!creature. reaching for me and belzy just seems weird as if there isn't other options b/c we "miscleared"... there are some who aren't cleared at all, so like?
- Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:44 pm
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Let’s let this idea marinate for a little while.Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:05 pmIf there is reason to reconsider Porscha and Belzy it is this: They were cleared by Alexa specifically. They were both already comfortable town reads, and had very deliberately linked themselves together in the thread. But then Alexa faked an outburst where she shouted out their role(s) as "toxic masons" to justify their connection to one another.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:50 pm Can someone remind me about Belzy & Porscha?
Like, if they're confirmed, why/how, and why are they still alive?
Alexa claimed to have learned this as the town role cop. We now know that she was not any sort of role cop or investigative role at all. However, she also had information about nutella's role on Day 1 of the game which turned out to be accurate (I think? I wasn't fully present and my memory may be wrong), so it's not unlikely that the mafia team has some sort of role cop ability and Alexa simply chose to act as a mouthpiece for that. Her report on Belzy and Porscha could be accurate.
However, now that we know Alexa's emotional outburst during which she "revealed" this information about Belzy and Porscha was fake (as in, her emotions were faked), we should call into question her motives. Was it just Alexa's attempt to secure her place in the towncore by providing accurate information about a pair of town roles? Or was it a more nefarious attempt to clear herself along with two teammates who had already backed themselves into a corner via association with one another?
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dumb. I don't think that's a sound argument. I was *not* a comfortable town read when alexa was trying to save me from c4's tunnel day 1. which I outlined yesterday, I thought was suspicious of her. belzy was then forced to out us as a potential mech pair to save me from lynch day 1. alexa was reading me as town for what I can only assume is b/c she was trying to get on my good side. alexa did fake an outburts, but my outburst back was very real when multiple people have read it as not real. I was extremely upset and didn't understand why she would do it. I didn't know how to read it.
also, as has been pointed out, me nor belzy argued that it was incorrect. which means... it's probably true. and the only people who would know if it was true or not would be other mafia since they obviously had some kind of role cop.
there is no way you can say me and belzy were confirmed town before role reveal AND be wolves backed into a corner in the same thought process. I know you aren't playing like that rn frfr!!!!
"They were both already comfortable town reads"
" two teammates who had already backed themselves into a corner via association with one another" both are pushes to read us as mafia and both are wrong and makes me feel worse about your position in my poe. how nice is it that me and belzy with confirmed roles as town are still alive so that we can maybe get voted out by sloonei instead of shot since there are stronger roles than me and belzy

- Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:33 pm
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can't be 2 unless it was you and jpic but I dont think its you and I know it isn't me or belzy, sofalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:47 pm Neither Belzy or Porscha were on Guillos wagon. Maf were on every wagon except the Guillo (lack of flips) and TSP (wolf)
I find it unlikely that Maf completely avoided Guillos wagon. The POE of remaining players from Guillos wagon has at least 1 Maf, likely 2
- Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:12 am
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I don't know what the tragic lovers role is but I'd like to throw out the option that we don't both think identically and my reaction was very real b/c there is no way in hell I would expect her to out me there when she had done nothing but confirm me town all game. belzy just got tricked into thinking alexa was confirmed town just like most people in the game did up until ilario fixed the game for town by outting her and poisoning her. ilario was I think the only person every day consistently pushing against alexa and all alexa would do is roll over and say "but ilario you're so town dont do dis" so idk in hindsight i'm not surprisedsabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:28 pm My theory was that belzy and porscha are something akin to tragic lovers. Toxic masons sounds like it could be that. One is town one is mafia. Porschas reaction to alexa outing felt fake to me. Like alexa had no reason to out them even if she was town because they were not at risk of being voted. Belzy was super protective if alexa even after that and super adamant about paopan. I wanted to believe paopan was town but he wasn't really helping anyone figure that out at all.
what is a btsc?
thank you friend
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I like it but I also don't know that alexa wanted to bury w!sabie tbhSloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:33 pm I think there is very little question that the mafia team was banking on alexa going deep and end gaming here. She was at least half of their longterm play. Ilario blew that up out of nowhere and, I suspect, upended a lot of plans they had set in motion.
I think at least one of those plans may have been allowing alexa to bury sabie. They probably did not expect to end up together in the walrus chat, but seeing as they were in there with a civilian (Belzy), they needed to treat it as a public space. Mac was an obvious kill target, and they had little room to avoid that as long as Belzy was there. The "plan" for sabie to shoot paopan in the night was never actually going to happen, and the real plan was for alexa to bury sabie for not shooting (with the help of Belzy), and then chop paopan the next day (today) once sabie flipped mafia.
Sabie's claim about shooting c4 as a vig is also made dubious by alexa's claims to have been targeted the same night. We now know that she was, in fact, not the mafia's kill target. This can be taken as an indication that c4 was the actual mafia kill target. Sabie did perform the kill, so her claiming of that kill was not dishonest in case she was caught in the act. She has not performed any additional kills since her first one because it was a 1-shot ability. She has been wielding the potential to shoot somebody since Night 1, but has not actually done so.
Additionally, if Alexa was not the N2 kill target, we have no reason to believe her claims about having been given a vest. She was bulletproof anyway. It is not impossible for LinearPoint's role to be true by coincidence. Indeed, it's possible Alexa really did receive a vest, and worked that into her false narrative. But LP has been cleared for days on the assumption that they saved alexa from being killed by the mafia team. We now know that to be untrue.
but yeah I agree on alexa as the deepest wolf. probs why she was tripping balls seething when she got caught by Ilario and nobody else was onto her
- Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:54 am
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oh wait she did straight up role claim us lmao sorry my head feels like trash maybe I should wait until t omorrow morning to do thisSloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:48 amShe named your role and neither you nor Belzy denied it.Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:45 amI dont remember alexa claiming mech on confirming me and belzy. just pocketed us knowing we weren't wolf. fooled belzy real good lolsabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:18 pmI don't consider belzy and porscha officially confirmed if alexa was BSing about having a role cop check on them.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:16 pm [VOTE: Linear Point] aubergine
falcon, creature, belzy, porscha confirmed?
I can't recall the exact nature of who's confirmed and who's not and why...is this right?
- Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:53 am
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ilario also made a very strong case against you, what do you think about that
- Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:46 am
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multiple people did including myselfJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:18 pm Was it alexa who shaded sloonei for claiming a self confirmable role?
- Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:45 am
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I dont remember alexa claiming mech on confirming me and belzy. just pocketed us knowing we weren't wolf. fooled belzy real good lolsabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:18 pmI don't consider belzy and porscha officially confirmed if alexa was BSing about having a role cop check on them.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:16 pm [VOTE: Linear Point] aubergine
falcon, creature, belzy, porscha confirmed?
I can't recall the exact nature of who's confirmed and who's not and why...is this right?
- Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:44 am
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Dont think we are flashing a wagon and tbh if game isnt over after this night then pao flipping will give some good info
- Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:58 pm
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I would screech at the drama if alexa flipped maf
- Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:55 pm
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Pon mobile not gonnd try to find and quote it, but pao made it sound like earlier his protective role was stuck on a single player all game when he commented on 2 wolves left since he thinks alexa will flip maf
- Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:52 pm
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Okay I think pao will flip regardless but I'm gonna move my vote off creature to avoid potential splitting as I may not be available these last few minutes
- Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:49 pm
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okay with ilario claiming non-town that leaves sabie and dya as potential town vigis and idk that both are town. both aren't revealing anything about their roles other than they took shots. dya took a town confirming shot and I'm not getting maf vibes from her but idk I might just be intimidated by her verbal rage for using the word coasting due to her lack of ability to put time into the game cuz of IRL events but it came off as genuine rage so lol idk.
dya looks more confirmed town with the sabie discussion today on holstering but ultimately idk if there is a wolf between them or not
dya looks more confirmed town with the sabie discussion today on holstering but ultimately idk if there is a wolf between them or not
- Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:38 pm
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I mean we can vote out ilario here but like I mentioned in my larger post last night - are they already at risk of getting souped? if so - it's a waste for town to lynch I think
- Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:27 pm
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honestly I think if maf doesnt soup tonight. and then alexa + maybe one other kill flips, I think town can narrow it down from there. I think maf will be taking a big risk either way to soup or not soup tonight.
soup killer gets outed after the soup kill right?
soup killer gets outed after the soup kill right?
- Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:53 am
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feeling sad about alexa being gone since I think she was town
I've been really unsatisfied with pao most of game but since I tripped on my own feet with my read on him last game I don't know how to trust myself with the read lol. I really thought he was maf and I had told him "pao if you are town, you are the most mafia- town I have ever seen" and he flipped town so idk what to do with how he has played this entire game but when it comes down to it, I don't like his play. yes, it does feel they sometimes don't really even have a sense of what's going on when they post and I don't know how to trust anything they say when it feels that way.
JPIC still making me yawn. head empty no thoughts. not sure if they are intentionally trying to fly under the radar or not. making little posts here and there but I'm not seeing much conclusive thoughts about people in those posts
sloonei I think before today also said they had town mech to clear them unless I am misremembering the period of time they first mentioned it
wilgy I've been on the fence about all game but not top 2 for me right now I think
ilario made a case on creature that I felt was comprehensive but I'm not sure what agenda he may have for trying to push creature if his win-con isn't extremely pro-town like he describes
sabie, honestly, idk, I think their response to the no shot allegations seems fairly genuine still despite the alexa / belzy push. I think it's very possible both sides just misinterpreted what's going on and frankly sabie is responsible for her shots so if she got cold feet on pao for a legitimate reason then I get why she'd holster. she might also not have another shot and didn't want to reveal that info? not sure why she kept saying she didn't feel good about alexa / belzy being town until mac flipped, though. like she says it, but I don't know why. belzy and alexa have been more town read than a lot of the players this game and mac was getting pretty mafia read the entire day leading up to that vig shot, so I don't know why it took mac flipping maf for sabie to accept belzy and alexa as being fairly trustworthy. but idk how sabie thinks or plays - I feel like from a town perspective it's a bit weird to not trust them, but I do get that personally you have to live with making the call on the shot so idk.
I think pao should flip before ilario here probably - ilario's role name has been outed and frankly if he's 3p with win-con that doesn't align with mafia they might just soup him too, no? we are getting down to the wire here and if maf do end up holding soup kill for parity, there is a chance ilario just ends up in soup and losing too? I'm definitely on board with not needing to let a 3p live but if 3p is also in danger of dying to maf within the next 2 nights then unless ilario is legit maf he's at risk anyway without us needing to vote. maybe that's a stupid take idk i'm super tired but I think going on a strong maf pick is ideally better than the 3p if doable. I want to see too if it ends up seeming *too easy* to lynch pao but only time will tell I guess
I've been really unsatisfied with pao most of game but since I tripped on my own feet with my read on him last game I don't know how to trust myself with the read lol. I really thought he was maf and I had told him "pao if you are town, you are the most mafia- town I have ever seen" and he flipped town so idk what to do with how he has played this entire game but when it comes down to it, I don't like his play. yes, it does feel they sometimes don't really even have a sense of what's going on when they post and I don't know how to trust anything they say when it feels that way.
JPIC still making me yawn. head empty no thoughts. not sure if they are intentionally trying to fly under the radar or not. making little posts here and there but I'm not seeing much conclusive thoughts about people in those posts
sloonei I think before today also said they had town mech to clear them unless I am misremembering the period of time they first mentioned it
wilgy I've been on the fence about all game but not top 2 for me right now I think
ilario made a case on creature that I felt was comprehensive but I'm not sure what agenda he may have for trying to push creature if his win-con isn't extremely pro-town like he describes
sabie, honestly, idk, I think their response to the no shot allegations seems fairly genuine still despite the alexa / belzy push. I think it's very possible both sides just misinterpreted what's going on and frankly sabie is responsible for her shots so if she got cold feet on pao for a legitimate reason then I get why she'd holster. she might also not have another shot and didn't want to reveal that info? not sure why she kept saying she didn't feel good about alexa / belzy being town until mac flipped, though. like she says it, but I don't know why. belzy and alexa have been more town read than a lot of the players this game and mac was getting pretty mafia read the entire day leading up to that vig shot, so I don't know why it took mac flipping maf for sabie to accept belzy and alexa as being fairly trustworthy. but idk how sabie thinks or plays - I feel like from a town perspective it's a bit weird to not trust them, but I do get that personally you have to live with making the call on the shot so idk.
I think pao should flip before ilario here probably - ilario's role name has been outed and frankly if he's 3p with win-con that doesn't align with mafia they might just soup him too, no? we are getting down to the wire here and if maf do end up holding soup kill for parity, there is a chance ilario just ends up in soup and losing too? I'm definitely on board with not needing to let a 3p live but if 3p is also in danger of dying to maf within the next 2 nights then unless ilario is legit maf he's at risk anyway without us needing to vote. maybe that's a stupid take idk i'm super tired but I think going on a strong maf pick is ideally better than the 3p if doable. I want to see too if it ends up seeming *too easy* to lynch pao but only time will tell I guess
- Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:21 pm
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- Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:34 pm
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Popping in to move my vote to creature will catch up and post later
- Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:13 am
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might swap to creature if we need the vote later cuz I'm still on the fence about them too
- Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:12 am
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for now i'm gonna actually put my vote on alexa
- Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:11 am
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D4
I respect this. I think they got your exact role info from a previous game that had the roles. but I see it and I'm picking up what you're putting downilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:08 am I’m 3p, I’m hks partner. We have two wincons. First wincon is kill two wolves. If we kill two wolves, we achieve our wincon, get removed from the game and game continues as it normally would. Second wincon: we survive all the way to the end (just one of us is fine) and we win with whoever is alive. So yeah, we can win by winning with town and eliminating all the wolves. So there’s heavy incentive for us to townside which is why we have. I used hks day vig on dizzy so we already got 1 of our kills. If Alexa is mafia then I get my second and I leave the game if she flips mafia.
As for my abilities, everything lp outed today is….correct. So correct that I wonder if it’s coming from tmi. They perfectly guessed my characters name and some of their abilities. Which are: twice a game I can make myself untargetable to any night actions. I think the night alexa claimed her vest to be popped was the night wolves tried to kill me. That day before eod, I made a post saying tsp was probably a wolf and mac even noticed it and commented on it. I killed dizzy that day. I was pushing mac. And fossed alexa. I’ve been n1d 3 of my last games in a row (excluding didney world). Im a hot commodity for wolves to nk, so yes I do strongly believe wolves had a lot of reason to want me dead.
Start of today Alexa has a sudden epiphany that 3p isn’t eliminated. My guess is she didn’t discuss this in the chat with belzy and pao? Wanna know why? Probably because she didn’t know until sod because she used her rc on me. Why would town alexa rc me if she’s convinced I’m town? Or belzy on d2? It’s because she’s wolf and is trying to rc people mafia can’t push to get misyeeted.
And yeah I know what y’all are gonna say 3p is bad and shouldn’t be trusted, but if I was an evil aligned 3p I have no reason to play this way. I wasn’t being sussed by anyone, I can just keep living off the towncred from dizzy and achieve my wincon if it was an evil one. I wouldn’t invest this much into solving when I’m already in a good spot. So why would I as 3p care so much about townsiding? Because I’m a petty ass bitch and I think wolves chose players so I wanna bury the entire team for not choosing me lol, that’s pmuch it.
- Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:09 am
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D4
it stood out to me early that alexa was the only person besides belzy who pushed me as town when c4 was pushing me day 1. I wonder if she was just brown nosing me to see how I reacted, like maybe trying to get me to read her town for saving my chops
- Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:05 am
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if that's the case then what do you make of alexa getting onto sabie so hard for not making the shot on pao? would that be a w/w dynamic? I feel like it's doubtful they are w/w b/c it really put sabie on her heels. if it's w!alexa then I feel like it makes sabie look better but idk if it was just theatrics or what
- Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:59 am
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plus alexa and belzy were the 2 who voted to use their vigi shot on mac. do you think alexa just bussed him since he was getting a lot of criticism after tsp got red checked?
- Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:58 am
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so maf didn't shoot and then alexa claimed she was shot? that would be playing the long con lolilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:56 amYea I think she lied to look clear. Lp giving her a vest I think is true regardless of their alignment.Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:54 amthank you for the perspective I see your skepticism and I'm not beyond seeing alexa as a deep wolf but if she's maf then did she lie about getting shot n2? and what about LP giving her vest?ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:47 amLet’s say she’s mafia.
Okay let’s say she didn’t out it.
Suddenly in the night you both get mysterious soup killed meanwhile she’s still alive. People are gonna wonder why the outed role cop is alive but you both died.
That’s no longer a problem now that ur role is outed.
- Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:54 am
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D4
thank you for the perspective I see your skepticism and I'm not beyond seeing alexa as a deep wolf but if she's maf then did she lie about getting shot n2? and what about LP giving her vest?ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:47 amLet’s say she’s mafia.
Okay let’s say she didn’t out it.
Suddenly in the night you both get mysterious soup killed meanwhile she’s still alive. People are gonna wonder why the outed role cop is alive but you both died.
That’s no longer a problem now that ur role is outed.
- Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:45 am
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- Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:30 am
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I thought this too but then I also feel like what's the point of a mafia publicly trying to out roles when they could keep that info to themselves while having town feel more relaxed to have a more surprise soup? it almost read as town as much as I hated itilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:13 amShe didn’t, she outed their roles to be soup killed
There was no reason for her to even role cop Betsy if she’s town, alexa was heavily townreading the slot on d2, why would she rc that slot if she trs them? Betsy was in no pressure to be voted out yesterday either because tsp was red checked so again it makes no sense for her to out the roles. I spent an hour trying to get her to hc her role and she insisted it’s a bad idea but then outta the blue she just decides to claim her own role AND two others? Like cmon man
- Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:43 am
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D4
Okay t for me:
Falcon
Alexa
Belzy
Porscha
Maybe LP
Otherwise I'm still sus on creature and skeptically pao since I suck at reading pao
I was nervous about the sabie alarms but they made what I felt was a pretty sincere response so idk maybe still a 3p or wolf between the 3 vigis of dya, ilario, and sabie
Wilgy I feel could be mafia but I think I'd need to iso him and I know im not doing that tonight
JPIC flying under the radar imo idk what to think about them
Falcon
Alexa
Belzy
Porscha
Maybe LP
Otherwise I'm still sus on creature and skeptically pao since I suck at reading pao
I was nervous about the sabie alarms but they made what I felt was a pretty sincere response so idk maybe still a 3p or wolf between the 3 vigis of dya, ilario, and sabie
Wilgy I feel could be mafia but I think I'd need to iso him and I know im not doing that tonight
JPIC flying under the radar imo idk what to think about them
- Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:50 am
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I voted creature cuz tsp already flipping but ilario sold me on it as I will not be participating as much this day until next day assuming I will not be an ingredient in some soup
- Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:37 am
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yeah sorry dya wasn't a personal attack, I've been accused of it every game I play. not like I know what's going on in your real life. congrats tho
- Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:40 am
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unless you are maf trying to signal that you believe my role is actually 3p, lying about thinking it's town so everybody else thinks I'm town, and trying to help your win condition with having me on your side but I just can't imagine that reality in this time line
- Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:38 am
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or you are trying to signal to mafia that you are 3p or something. literally no way a wolf makes this line of posts
- Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:36 am
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if maf can only do it once per game then yes you absolutely should b/c the only reason more info is bad for town is when maf soup is imminent without maf soup then no reason to withhold info cuz that will only hurt town. role claims are going to be harder to lie about if 4 town die tonight
- Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:33 am
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- Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:27 am
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D3
I'm gonna spend the next week playing it since I die after this day cycle zzzzzzzz
- Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:54 pm
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literally same thoughts. i'm gonna vomit some soup rn like fr frLinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:51 pmWhy would you ever think this is OK to post with a soup kill still on the table?alexa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:49 pm i harmclaim town 3-shot rolecop with some restrictions that i won't say incase that stops me from being souped (think of guillo's role and think my restrictions relate to that type of thing)
n0: nutella arsonist
n1: roleblocked
n2: porcha is a toxic mason. so i think belzy is too. idk anything else. or what toxic means. but they are clear/masons. i only checked them because i got paranoid as fuck after that last EOD and realized a ton of my reads could've been wrong
this may be a dumb AF claim but w/e.
@ilario
alexa you traitor why have you done this when you've hard cleared me and belzy all gaaaaaaame omggggggggggggggg
- Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:51 pm
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maybe it's because I'm really on the fence about multiple people but yes I think there could be wolf in thereCreature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:28 pmI think it was mostly Mac's solve pushing him:Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:23 pmI do think a universal mac push as maf might make him town.Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:09 pmThat I am and you are not is all the evidence a non pelican would require to see the truth herein.
how many town are left (assuming no other 3p)? one 3p down, 5 maf left - how many are pushing on mac rn
alexa, ilario, LinearPoint and me
Do you think any of us could be wolf here?
I see where mac is coming from with that grouping based on day 2 interactions since tbh the ilario / alexa interactions are giving me bad juju vibes and a lot of the same thoughts seemed to kinda come from the group but I don't know that I believe it's 4 wolves. maybe a pairing of wolves in there