The Syndicate

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:08 pm Glad to see you all sheeping my legacy for the win.

yeah thank god for rondo!!

obscurity wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:19 pm nice clutch town! wow neon you did amazing!

Sorry for the tunnel Porscha

it's okay don't blame you I probably would have tunneled me too

Like if wolf goon nook got lucky on his call outs then whatever but I think it's more probable neon is last wolf

Btw creature I also felt neon did a great job of tone in their posts so I gave them a chance to consider nook as an option but I think they tmi'd him just now. So

Me only vote neon

I dont feel the need to sleep. We go out in glory

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:00 pm You really think I shot Obscurity instead of just killing the confirmed town lol.

GGs I guess. Nook out here giving the wolf's a win.

Outting post tbh

means you know nook isnt wolf

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:55 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:51 pm My review didn't really change my mind. If im wrong, sorry
You tryna say you did stuff?
Yeah I looked through some of Jack's iso and a bit through sabi's

Anything catch your eye or whatnot?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:51 pm My review didn't really change my mind. If im wrong, sorry

You tryna say you did stuff?

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:26 am
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:11 pm Yawn I'm pretty annoyed.

NANOOK, tbh I kinda expected town!you to be pretty quick to vote considering this is pretty much an F3 scenario and I saw you were quick to vote in plenty of games where you were town.

Neon, Porscha, do you have any wolf game I can look into? I know at least one of you is saying to have a pretty bad wolfgame but I don't know the extent of how bad it is.

Anyway, I may suggest sleeping today if I feel like we aren't ready for this decision.
I posted mine earlier for Obs. I think is pretty obvious that it's not Nook. It should be obvious it's not me... I've given everything I have to this game and I'm drained I've given you 2 woofs and when I caught the 2nd one I almost got misexe'd. Now Porscha does the obvious kill to keep the tunnel away and I'm going to get misexe'd again. It's frustrating that I've been PoE since D1 and no matter what I do to help town I'm still being mispushed.

Honestly this is the best game I've ever played regardless but I just really want to win.

I think it's the best game I've seen you play if you're a wolf ;o

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:11 pm Yawn I'm pretty annoyed.

NANOOK, tbh I kinda expected town!you to be pretty quick to vote considering this is pretty much an F3 scenario and I saw you were quick to vote in plenty of games where you were town.

Neon, Porscha, do you have any wolf game I can look into? I know at least one of you is saying to have a pretty bad wolfgame but I don't know the extent of how bad it is.

Anyway, I may suggest sleeping today if I feel like we aren't ready for this decision.

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Neon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:58 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:25 pm 1) if you're referring to sabi then yeah if mac is tunneling her you might as well bus tbqh
2) i forgot there was apparently some heated back and forth you had with wilgy, but I also had a lot of that with wilgy and if you're town then i'd like you to consider this as a point in my favor if it's a point in your favor

3) are we thinking that mr. mech over there (nook) is trying to mechanically outplay us? I kinda didn't like nooks' post right before falcon flip that said "hope we arent throwing lol" like the tone in that spot was just *chef's vomit* disgUSTing
1. I like to think I'm good enough to talk Mac out of tunneling my team mate because I like to think I'm a good talker but tbf I'm probably not lol

2. Fairs fair I will go back and look

3. Do you think there's a world where it's actually Nook?

I'm going to go back and look at votes somebody told me once that the best way to find Nooks alignment is if he's killing villagers with votes and general like vote reading.

good to know we recently read the same post
the world view is simple at this point so nook has to be considered. I brought up how I am doing my poe in my most recent posts. in theory the last wolf has to be goon. I am less likely to believe that wolf nook, even with his PR partners, would be able to have a relatively accurate read on who did or didnt go somewhere. i think the only one that could be done is if the night falcon didn't move, wilgy rb'd him thinking he was a PR so nook could accurately say that faclon didn't move even without knowledge of falcon being vanilla
do we think nook would make that series of posts saying he flubbed the track on creature instead of wilgy if he's wolf? what is the point of that? cuz I think it does nothing but make him look not good

if we assume nook has a PR then he can't be vanilla wolf. creature is mason. it leaves me and you, neon, that don't have any kind of role claim. so it's why i'm landing on you more than nook right now

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:58 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:25 pm 1) if you're referring to sabi then yeah if mac is tunneling her you might as well bus tbqh
2) i forgot there was apparently some heated back and forth you had with wilgy, but I also had a lot of that with wilgy and if you're town then i'd like you to consider this as a point in my favor if it's a point in your favor

3) are we thinking that mr. mech over there (nook) is trying to mechanically outplay us? I kinda didn't like nooks' post right before falcon flip that said "hope we arent throwing lol" like the tone in that spot was just *chef's vomit* disgUSTing
1. I like to think I'm good enough to talk Mac out of tunneling my team mate because I like to think I'm a good talker but tbf I'm probably not lol

2. Fairs fair I will go back and look

3. Do you think there's a world where it's actually Nook?

I'm going to go back and look at votes somebody told me once that the best way to find Nooks alignment is if he's killing villagers with votes and general like vote reading.

1) if you're referring to sabi then yeah if mac is tunneling her you might as well bus tbqh
2) i forgot there was apparently some heated back and forth you had with wilgy, but I also had a lot of that with wilgy and if you're town then i'd like you to consider this as a point in my favor if it's a point in your favor

3) are we thinking that mr. mech over there (nook) is trying to mechanically outplay us? I kinda didn't like nooks' post right before falcon flip that said "hope we arent throwing lol" like the tone in that spot was just *chef's vomit* disgUSTing

Okay neon in a world where it isnt me, then you're looking at nook right

Also you could have easily bussed sabi and wilgy imo

there's the person who killed oscar to set me up to look bad

I have no reason to believe the track is usable by the new owner the same night creature dies so the track is so super duper literally useless

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:02 pm Yeah last wolf did an optimal nightkill last night considering nightkilling me would result in someone receiving a track.

Still wonder if Porscha would think enough about this because I still expect Porscha to just make the simplest nightkills (me over Ruri and obscurity) if she was the last wolf here.

ultimately killing you last night so that 1 person has a track to use tonight doesn't matter. there is 1 wolf 3 town. if we ML a town, it's 1 wolf 2 town. wolf kills 1 town tonight and reaches parity 1 wolf 1 town. your track literally doesnt matter

I am surprised you didn't die because you are the most confirmed player in the game. me and oscar could fight for an eternity today and ML one him or myself which would have 100% been ideal for the wolves. killing oscar is like straight game losing I think unless nook is pulling the rug from out our under feet, however I find nook unlikely to be a wolf because it was explicitly stated in game rules that both parties will be a mix of PR and vanilla, and the vanilla never flipped. so last wolf is vanilla unless host stated that premise incorrectly. I don't think a wolf nook, even with this other teammates, could know for sure the night ruri moved (he could know ruri did not move if wilgy were to rb her for a night, for example) and come up with accurate reporting. if creature is confirmed, nook likely confirmed by mech, I am left with nothing except neon

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:36 pm The real question we should be asking is which of you are more mechanically competent lol

wdym? is this related to leaving creature alive?

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:56 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:33 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:28 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:59 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:07 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:41 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:32 pm

Falc, what's in your head re Neon vs me?
1 of you 2 is Maf

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:42 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine
AND YET??
Oh don't act like my votes don't change.

And if 1 of the 2 is Maf, well then there's still another Maf out there
yeah ruri or wilgy are maf

*votes porscha umprompted*

"oh dont act like my votes don't change"

>ends up voting me by eod instead of wilgy
My POE was very clearly defined, and frankly I'm pretty sure I was voting Maf at EOD
i'll bring this back up again because falcons' decision making just doesnt make sense to me from town pov, and his response isn't really satisfactory for me either. when I asked him how his actions made sense, he responds with an answer of "you were clearly my poe and I think you're maf still, so it all makes sense" but no not really, since you specifically had a red check between wilgy and neon, which logically I believe most townies would solve between instead of the random outlier, and I believe falcon only took this route as he showed interest in a wilgy/porscha wolf world earlier when it was proposed by - not himelf - but oscar:

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:42 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:28 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:22 pm Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?

That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E
This is what I thought the other day with what Porcha did but I think Wilgy is just outed now

I wouldn't be super shocked if Porscha progression was W/W
To be fair, I also can see Porscha/Wilgy team

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:58 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:49 pm Btw Wilgy did try to self pres I literally saw it like a minute before EOD he only switched when it was clear Schia was dying lol.
Town self-pres too.

Tho I'm very OK w/ Wilgy & Porscha flipping.

What if we wagon them both?

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine
both maf have to know wilgy is always dying first before the other. the last wolf has to have a long-con believable poe, with likely one specific person they'd like to try to ML today - and I believe I was the scapegoat for all of it, especially when I've had people's poe's breathing down my neck all game. I don't have a PR, nook didn't touch me, I didn't do much to flip sabi or jack, protected wilgy. almost everyone has more to their vote record and general read to lead them out of poe still. And keeping me alive to defend wilgy until wilgy was gonna go over for sure works, but after the wilgy flip I'm likely the easiest ML... except maybe for falcon.

so I think I will conclude with this: that the wagons should only be between me and falcon today as we both have the least going for us in terms of what makes us defensible townies. additionally, there has been enough suspicion around my slot that even if falcon doesn't go over today, it's probably best to remove me from poe's so the remaining players can make a better informed decision on where to go next.

thanks for reading and don't say I never did anything for ya

neon just busses wilgy b/c of this line of thought imo

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:16 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:50 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:48 pm Yes we've established that I'm alive because I've been a loud voice defending mafia. Basically the 5th wolf. That's why I'm literally carrying out the strongest part of the will of all the recent dead people. Neon being mafia makes no sense here. Neon was Mac's strongest townread and no one dead wanted Neon to die. Pyxxy literally died going at Porscha why would you ignore that Wilgy?
This line of thinking completely ignores that Neon has been a loud voice against Wilgy...they parked and left the RD, why does Wilgy leave them alive?

Your whole premise here is negated by that fact

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:37 pm Neon has been calling for Wilgy to get lynched for some time, how come he's left her alive? She seems one of the more vocal ones as well
more pushing from falcon on the "BUT IF WILGY WAS WOLF NEON WOULD BE DEAD SO CHECKMATE ATHEISTS" that just seems like a partner defense

it literally was checkmate atheists. lmfao

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:10 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:19 pm [VOTE: Neon] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:20 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:07 pm Oh are we actually going to kill Wilgy on this day?
Let's kill you first IMO

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:22 pm Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?

That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:42 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:37 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:22 pm Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?

That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E
I... what?

This is actually awful lol.
Nah

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:56 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:37 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:22 pm Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?

That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E
I... what?

This is actually awful lol.
It's not that bad. I know you've been pushing Wilgy, but you also had like 8 posts last RD. You'd think you'd want to do some solving.

And Wilgy leaves you alive? Why? You can't push his wagon if you're dead
:really: kind of a weak push onto neon's slot and gave her a little dose get voted for statically pushing wilgy.
falcon would you like to re-eval as to why wilgy would keep neon alive there now that he did in fact flip wolf?

i'll answer my own question here with the uh, the only clear answer is cuz neon is wolf partner

wilgy never seriously pushes neon again btw ^

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:51 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:00 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:58 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:56 pm I don't think Neon is mafia Wilgs

Ruri I go back and forth tinfoiling
I just don't find a team elsewhere. If Shia/Ruri? Maybe?

Idk Ruri without counter claim, plus the reaction to Nook gimmick.
Do you get towny vibes off Shia? Ruri?
this seems like a weird question for falcon to ask when wilgy is struggling to find a poe that makes sense to him after he has now decided I am town.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:26 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:36 pm bout 25 minutes to go:

anne - 3 - Voters: Creature, Porscha, DrWilgy
DrWilgy - 4 - Voters: anne, Neon, Seanzie, Schiavetto
Falcon45ca - 1 - obscurity
NANOOK - 3 - Voters: Ruri, pyxxy, falcon45ca
Schiavetto - 1 - Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
what if?

ebwop formatting and updated kolorz

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:36 pm bout 25 minutes to go:

anne - 3 - Voters: Creature, Porscha, DrWilgy
DrWilgy - 4 - Voters: anne, Neon, Seanzie, Schiavetto
Falcon45ca - 1 - obscurity
NANOOK - 3 - Voters: Ruri, pyxxy, falcon45ca
Schiavetto - 1 - Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Feels like there's a Maf amongst the lead wagons for sure w/ that vote spread
[/quote]

what if?

so. small epiphany here

if neon and I are the only 2 without roles

falcon... falcon was perhaps onto something. it wasn't that wilgy and neon had 1 wolf between them. it had 2. that's the reason neon never dies pushing wilgy. hellbus

I really can't believe oscar died and creature didnt

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:58 pm Godspeed hopefully we're not throwing lol

Zzz

Sorry falcon if you just got lost in the sauce this game and poe'd cuz of it cuz same. Apparently

And no amount of work I put in will convince oscar otherwise

I mean if it isnt falcon then it has to be between nook and oscar imo and creature dies tonight

I would just like to say oscar that I believe it is blatant misrepresentation to say I was saying big factor for the anne ML

This is what this eod has come to eh

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:05 am But I'm Town...if you feel you did a lot of work building a case against me, it was work only for Maf.

Who would be cleared after I'm gone? I am town, the game will continue. So who's clear town based off my flip?

idk if you flip town i'm clinging to neon for my life and then probs looking at nook

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:10 am Porscha & Nook is my solve. Legacy it beeches, cuz I'm a fried green potato town.

Is this one of my finest games? Hell nah. But it is one of my town games, believe 'dat

it's fried green tomato................. really scum slipping on your fried green produce there, falcon

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:49 pm Ok nvm you've returned to being based

oh thank god

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:31 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 1:16 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:52 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:44 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:41 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:38 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:35 pm

Does Mac biff it that hard D1 as Maf?

Not IME
Yes. He has been outted as maf D1 in like two games I have seen
Can you link those games, so that we may compare & contrast that Mac to this Mac?
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/37015

Mac was a wolf and nk N1 because he was outted D1.

Need to find the other game.
And you feel Mac is playing the same way he did during Warhammer?
what do you guys think of this interaction between falcon and sabi
i'm leaning it being nonaligned?
Insert mildly insulting meme here that im not 100% sure we're on close enough terms for

I dish I can take it it's okay

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:31 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 1:16 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:52 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:44 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:41 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:38 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:35 pm

Does Mac biff it that hard D1 as Maf?

Not IME
Yes. He has been outted as maf D1 in like two games I have seen
Can you link those games, so that we may compare & contrast that Mac to this Mac?
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/37015

Mac was a wolf and nk N1 because he was outted D1.

Need to find the other game.
And you feel Mac is playing the same way he did during Warhammer?
what do you guys think of this interaction between falcon and sabi
i'm leaning it being nonaligned?
Insert mildly insulting meme here that im not 100% sure we're on close enough terms for

I dish I can take it it's okay

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:29 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:57 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 10:04 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:23 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 5:30 pm I'm town. Tho I've not been active, which is a scum tell, it's inaccurate this game

am I dumb or does this come as like ........ idk ........ maybe aligned
Imo you're very smart and inciteful

oh no! what am I inciting ;p

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:33 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:28 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:59 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:07 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:41 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:32 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:32 pm [VOTE: ruri] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:32 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine
Falc, what's in your head re Neon vs me?
1 of you 2 is Maf

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:42 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine
AND YET??
Oh don't act like my votes don't change.

And if 1 of the 2 is Maf, well then there's still another Maf out there
yeah ruri or wilgy are maf

*votes porscha umprompted*

"oh dont act like my votes don't change"

>ends up voting me by eod instead of wilgy
My POE was very clearly defined, and frankly I'm pretty sure I was voting Maf at EOD

i'll bring this back up again because falcons' decision making just doesnt make sense to me from town pov, and his response isn't really satisfactory for me either. when I asked him how his actions made sense, he responds with an answer of "you were clearly my poe and I think you're maf still, so it all makes sense" but no not really, since you specifically had a red check between wilgy and neon, which logically I believe most townies would solve between instead of the random outlier, and I believe falcon only took this route as he showed interest in a wilgy/porscha wolf world earlier when it was proposed by - not himelf - but oscar:

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:42 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:28 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:22 pm Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?

That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E
This is what I thought the other day with what Porcha did but I think Wilgy is just outed now

I wouldn't be super shocked if Porscha progression was W/W
To be fair, I also can see Porscha/Wilgy team

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:58 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:49 pm Btw Wilgy did try to self pres I literally saw it like a minute before EOD he only switched when it was clear Schia was dying lol.
Town self-pres too.

Tho I'm very OK w/ Wilgy & Porscha flipping.

What if we wagon them both?

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

both maf have to know wilgy is always dying first before the other. the last wolf has to have a long-con believable poe, with likely one specific person they'd like to try to ML today - and I believe I was the scapegoat for all of it, especially when I've had people's poe's breathing down my neck all game. I don't have a PR, nook didn't touch me, I didn't do much to flip sabi or jack, protected wilgy. almost everyone has more to their vote record and general read to lead them out of poe still. And keeping me alive to defend wilgy until wilgy was gonna go over for sure works, but after the wilgy flip I'm likely the easiest ML... except maybe for falcon.

so I think I will conclude with this: that the wagons should only be between me and falcon today as we both have the least going for us in terms of what makes us defensible townies. additionally, there has been enough suspicion around my slot that even if falcon doesn't go over today, it's probably best to remove me from poe's so the remaining players can make a better informed decision on where to go next.

thanks for reading and don't say I never did anything for ya

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:30 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:24 pm Falcon has spent 7 days voting town lol
That should lock me as Town, Maf falcon is not afraid to bus, he does it a lot

in what i consider likely to not be tmi from nook, but rather nook tr'ing me, in saying that falcon voted town 7 days (since he voted me yesterday).............. falcon gives a response that is fine in verbiage but the tone throws me as it feels lightly panicked. (ftr I do think wolf falcon is willing to bus) but it sorta feels like falcon conveniently kept wilgy in his poe constantly to the point of making him a difference check but never voted him with any seriousness. like... he was perhaps keeping the bussing option open the entire day if he needed to do it. luckily for wilgy, he had some support from others and I think this prevented falcon from hellbussing wilgy b/c it was almost salvageable

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:25 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:17 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:14 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:31 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:54 pm When I'm gone just flip Porscha I think.
like there is no way we are w/w when wilgy was hard trying to get me flipped over him yesterday
to me it felt like he wasn't really trying to get you flipped until i sort of forced him into it..

i mean every time he pushed on you he ended up backing off

i may need to reread some of the interactions but "witty theater" still registers.
yesterday wilgy did not back off. the wagon was like 4 on wilgy 3 on me. it was close. "when you forced him into it"? as in, when you made it clear you thought we were both wolves so wilgy tried to convince you I was in fact a wolf to get the ML on me yesterday before coming into today?
Well, he had little choice, wouldn't you say? He made lots of soft sus on other slots as well, including Ruri & Neon

and so didn't we just see falcon sus the ruri and neon slots as well? neon as a difference check with wilgy and when neon asks if that her and wilgy are tvt then who is poe? he says me, of course, and then says a tinfoil would be obs/ruri. but not me/obs or me/ruri, which is kind of strange when i'm the last remaining person in his poe all together in that scenario.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:26 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:04 pm In a world where me and Wilgz are TvT

What is the likelihood of something stupid like Porscha/Falc?

Tin foil time.
Porscha is POE.

Something stupid tinfoil-y would be like, Obs & Ruri

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:04 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

falcon is now kind of holed into forcing me to exist as a big spot in his poe, because when wilgy eventually goes over and flips red, it eliminates his difference check and immediately makes pushing neon impossible.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:09 am [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:16 pm [VOTE: Neon] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:32 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:32 pm [VOTE: ruri] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:41 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:32 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:32 pm [VOTE: ruri] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:32 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine
Falc, what's in your head re Neon vs me?
1 of you 2 is Maf

series of schizo votes that ends up with falcon back to neon/wilgy difference check
followed by immediately voting outside of his difference check onto me with the justification that there are 2 wolves left. I dont' think a townie would generally use this tactic to narrow down a pool of players, but to potentially keep it open

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:59 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:07 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:41 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:32 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:32 pm [VOTE: ruri] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:32 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine
Falc, what's in your head re Neon vs me?
1 of you 2 is Maf

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:42 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine
AND YET??
Oh don't act like my votes don't change.

And if 1 of the 2 is Maf, well then there's still another Maf out there

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:31 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:56 pm If we kill wilgy over my objections and he flips town I get to decide tomorrow lol
Is there a Neon/Wilgy wolf team possibility in your eyes?

why would you ask this when nook literally is simping for wilgy at this moment in time?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:25 pm Neon posted 7 mins after SOD.

If they can be here for the start, they can be here for the end. It's the same time of day.

pulls this as if he wasn't already joking around about how it's annoying to get read for your thread activity zz. uncharitable towards neon for the sake of needing reasons imo

shit forgot that p ost

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:11 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:08 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:05 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:59 pm But Wilgy is literally pushing to kill Neon here. He ain't killing someone he's trying to push on and who he ended on last EOD
Well, the D6 poll shows he did EOD on Neon...thoughts?
Yeah that's what I'm saying. Like it wouldn't make sense for w!Wilgy to kill Neon when he was set up to start pushing them again coming into today

I've been engaged all game and evaluating. You've seemed to have waken up a bit today but I've already been here and explored angles, including Neon. Im hard locked into Wilgy/Porcha/ NANOOK POE and I think it's just Wilgy/Porcha.
Well, that means our POEs are 66.6% the same.

Just cuz I think you're Town, doesn't mean my tinfoil won't point your way

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:59 pm Neon, Wilgy, Porscha are fine wagons for today I think

I will say this, if Neon flips red, I want Obs next.

What's @Creature thinking?

really random post that suddenly includes oscar as a next round lynch target for falcon since he started questioning why oscar was left alive as well. but this is immediately narrowed back down with these:

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:04 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:59 pm But Wilgy is literally pushing to kill Neon here. He ain't killing someone he's trying to push on and who he ended on last EOD
Duly noted. It's also the start of the RD...I'll say this, I'd be shocked of one of them isn't Maf.

I'll have to look into Neon & Wilgys ISOs.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:05 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:59 pm But Wilgy is literally pushing to kill Neon here. He ain't killing someone he's trying to push on and who he ended on last EOD
Well, the D6 poll shows he did EOD on Neon...thoughts?

and then yoyo's right back to including oscar as tinfoil when he never bothered to notice oscar as a tinfoil option when lucy said it first and after I echoed it. I can see this as a way for falcon to have reasons for a larger poe today if / when wolf partner wilgy goes over

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:50 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:48 pm Yes we've established that I'm alive because I've been a loud voice defending mafia. Basically the 5th wolf. That's why I'm literally carrying out the strongest part of the will of all the recent dead people. Neon being mafia makes no sense here. Neon was Mac's strongest townread and no one dead wanted Neon to die. Pyxxy literally died going at Porscha why would you ignore that Wilgy?
This line of thinking completely ignores that Neon has been a loud voice against Wilgy...they parked and left the RD, why does Wilgy leave them alive?

Your whole premise here is negated by that fact

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:37 pm Neon has been calling for Wilgy to get lynched for some time, how come he's left her alive? She seems one of the more vocal ones as well

more pushing from falcon on the "BUT IF WILGY WAS WOLF NEON WOULD BE DEAD SO CHECKMATE ATHEISTS" that just seems like a partner defense

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:58 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:49 pm Btw Wilgy did try to self pres I literally saw it like a minute before EOD he only switched when it was clear Schia was dying lol.
Town self-pres too.

Tho I'm very OK w/ Wilgy & Porscha flipping.

What if we wagon them both?

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

aaaaaaand before falcon comes in here again talking about how he isn't afraid to bus and wouldn't defend his partners ever, I believe this is him exhibiting that behavior in a way that would be advantageous (oh yeah i'm totally down with wilgy or porscha! AND BY THAT I MEAN ONLY PORSCHA >VOTE)

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